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Husqvarna - Stihl - Poulan - Jonsered - Dolmar chainsaws and more => Husqvarna => Topic started by: Cut4fun on October 23, 2020, 09:39:06 am
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Husqvarna to unveil newest generation of 90cc chainsaws in 2021
https://www.woodbusiness.ca/husqvarna-to-unveil-newest-generation-of-90cc-chainsaws-in-2021/
There is talk of a 90cc in this thread being tested. http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/husqvarna/new-70cc-huasqvarna-572/
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In 2021, Husqvarna, one of the world’s leading producers of forest, park and outdoor power equipment products, will unveil its newest generation of 90cc class chainsaws. This new, high-power chainsaw follows the success of such iconic chainsaws, including the 281 XP, 288 XP, 390 XP and the 395 XP. With a focus on performance, maneuverability and durability, this new high-power chainsaw generation from Husqvarna will provide professionals the reliability and productivity they need.
The new 90cc class of chainsaw was developed together with professional foresters and tree workers from around the world and is equipped with increased cutting capacity, superior ergonomics and enhanced balance for optimal maneuverability. Paired with Husqvarna’s X-Cut chain and new professional light weight bars, both production fallers and tree care crews will now be able to experience the ultimate high-power cutting system developed for their most demanding tasks.
“The new 90cc class chainsaw from Husqvarna was designed first and foremost to exceed the accomplishments of its predecessors,” said Andreas Rangert, vice-president for the tree professional unit at Husqvarna. “We’ve improved the cutting capacity while optimizing the weight and refining the balance – all without compromising on durability. Be you a logger operating in some of the most remote areas of the world or a tree care professional removing a diseased tree in the city, you can rely upon Husqvarna’s next high power 90cc class to always perform.”
More details about the new Husqvarna 90cc class chainsaw generation, including a new technology, will be presented soon and available to buy from the second half of 2021. Local launch timelines may vary.
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Husqvarna 592 retail price and estimate date of release in screen shot. Pic 592XPG
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what is the weight on the 592 , I hear they are coming in heated handles which is nice
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Havent seen anything on the weight yet.
Someone here would know first hand but he isnt allowed to say anything.
Guess he is starting to talk. = I guess I can talk about these things now. 8)
592XP product codes showed up this week and went "live" in the system. Nothing is available to ship until July 26, so they are months away at this point. If they are on time, and hardly anything is these days. Between the XP and XPG models there are an awful lot of SKU's for the different B&C combos. Price increase over like equipped 395's is a pretty reasonable $60. Not bad at all, and less than I expected. :)
There is also a companion "5" model coming, a 585 priced $100 less than the 592. Figure the same concept as the 365/372, 565/572, 555/562. Not sure how well that will do. I sell a fair amount of 565's because they slot in between the 562 and 572. And most 565 buyers are stepping up from the 562, not down from the 572. But a $100 swing when you're up past the $1000 mark isn't a big deal.
I've had a couple of pre-production 592G's for a while now, for logger testing. Need to get a green light from Sweden, but maybe Walt and I can do a video with one of them.
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Varenr.
970 49 34-01
NYHET!
KOMMER I 2. KVARTAL 2021!
- 90 CC
- AutoTune
- Klargjort for integrert Bluetooth- oppkobling, kan oppgraderes.
- Tilgjengelig med lett RSN sverd, X-Tough og X- Force.
- 3/8” skjæreutstyr.
https://www.caro.no/skog-og-verneutstyr/motorsager/motorsager/husqvarna-592-xpg-motorsag
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it should be a good saw to run
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specs
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what is the weight on the 592 , I hear they are coming in heated handles which is nice
Weights listed PHO above pic
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Just like that. There she is. ;)
If the 7.4kg holds true that is 16.3142lbs which is 385 390 weights.
Bar length 24-36"
Sound output 118db
Weight 7.4kg excluding fluids
Displacement 92.7 cm³
Chain speed 30.6m/s
Power output 5.6kw/7.6ps (horsepower)
Max bar length 90cm/36"
Bar mount Large
Chain pitch ⅜"
Tank volume 0.86l
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The unveiling of 90cc chainsaws: Introducing new Husqvarna 592 XP® and 585
https://youtu.be/mieYcOffidM
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585 regular carb and 592 autotune.
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https://youtu.be/543htAKb8oc
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https://youtu.be/QoQupBzR4K8
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https://youtu.be/MIcuyh2r75Q
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https://youtu.be/WE_vQMJvyZ4
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585
https://youtu.be/jDGku2E2vP0
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Pics. More coming under covers.
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12,500rpm
Both are really strong. We were finding that the 585 with a 28” bar would keep up the the 592 with a 32” (with the full bar buried in 36+” Douglas fir). Both running C83 X-cut chain.
Cool shirt too.
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With these under covers pics you now can tell bore and stroke of 592 585.
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All the info on regular carb on 585 right in the video a few days ago.
If these specs are right.
I'm seeing 2mm difference in bore by the specs if using same stroke. Which I would say is.
https://www.husqvarna.com/ca-en/products/chainsaws/592-xp/970493132/
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I have 3 videos of them by someone I know in my CRG. But to big to post here. They are posted on FB CRG.
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Better late then never
Dealer with a few test units. = One of the future videos ought to be when that saw breaks in, cause it will be a whole different animal. It's nowhere near what it's gonna be doing after 15-20 tanks of fuel.
https://youtu.be/AOZ10WCmjKI
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BC Canada
Ones they went with. The stainless prototype were on test saws.
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Sales rep showing off the 592xp at guys shop PA. We get Sugi bar.
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592xp 92.7cc in UK with the Tsu bar they get overseas.
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Dealer in US Iowa ;) 592xp pics and weight full ready to cut.
Then pic beside 390 395, 592 in middle.
Close up of muffler
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592 44"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc-N1sp4G9k
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Inside 592 cylinder
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Digging more info up = Husqvarna 592xp and 585 side by side. The blue is the 592xp. These are pre production saws so the final saw that’s available to buy may be a little different.
sounds like a 585 might have a chance of unlimited coil = The 585 is more of a workhorse timber saw. Stripped down and heavy duty for working in remote environments. That’s one reason it’s not auto tuned so field maintenance and repairs can be done on site or in camp. There’s also going to be and unlimited coil available for it to build hot saws with it.
Bore stroke 390 55x37 385 54x37 395 56x38 592 55x39 585 53x39 288 54x38
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Husqvarna 585 prototype that was run with autotune. But production ones will be regular carbs like stated long ago.
Can see the bore size on it like I showed on the 592 earlier.
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Husqvarna 585 IPL https://shop.husqvarna.com/us/parts/EPCProductView?epcBrandName=Husqvarna&catalogId=13051&epcCategory=Chain+Saws&langId=-1&epcOverrideCategory=&storeId=11251&epcProduct=585
Spike60 = 592XP and 585 Huskys
I had a couple test units and they do run strong. Has a nasty snarl to it also. Pretty impressive saw; and it does out cut the 395. Mine were both G models, so there was that additional weight, but either way the weight is on par with the 395. She's not a lightweight. :)
There's a webinar on them tomorrow, but I'm going to miss it. I dug into them a little when I had them. At first glance it looks like a big 572, but a closer look shows that they did a lot of stuff differently. The no-baffle stainless steel muffler is why it has the bark it does. The mounts are interesting. Try to see what they did with the rear mount over the gas cap. It's vertical as on the 395 and there's a thin steel cable for a movement limiter. No harder to work on than the rest of the line. I did carb swaps on them because they switched to that "run on choke" start feature during the test.
When? Just throw a dart at the calendar. :) March would be a guess for us in the US, but it's been a long time since any forecast date has been anywhere close to accurate. They shipped me three 395's today that have been on backorder since January 21. 395's were supposed to go away, but will be hanging around for another year just as an extra model in the line up to help meet demand.
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Husqvarna PHO dry weight
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I figured it would cover the 390 easily.
https://youtu.be/3-1tc_6_Qk4
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https://youtu.be/DYEHWdWr_u0
https://youtu.be/pFYfbJRpUJc
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https://youtu.be/xdHvAxkbXTk
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https://youtu.be/CEwcxp7wT84
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Husqvarna PHO dry weight
@EHP
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https://youtu.be/JK8ad2ZY62U
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https://youtu.be/yT7a9TLuz0A
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From Nov 1st thread on CRG FB
2 members here are porting 592xp right now in US.
Here is one before, stock testing. Both are under the trusted porters to use in pinned thread at top.
https://youtu.be/CewRmOAd58s
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https://youtu.be/URT20a8tSPE
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Husqvarna 592 tear down piston cylinder stock numbers pics by Nick
SC info
Duration/Opening
585 592
Exhaust 160/100 156/102
Trans 125/117.5 117/121.5
Intake 158.5/79 151/75.5
Strato 140.5/70.25 151/75.5
Chamber sizes are:
585 9.8cc
592 10cc
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Those transfer ports look to be pretty good size. Also the squish is not too bad either.
But that piston looks completely foreign. I would not even know where to start with the timing numbers to modify something like that.
Looks like you could screw that up real easy.
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Scarr's one he muffler modded so far.
3 being ported in US now we know of.
https://youtu.be/IYDdD2H1b-U
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First cuts he did before doing muffler
https://youtu.be/wS3Qt50c3wE
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https://youtu.be/79aKL-6AgSE
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https://youtu.be/wJbrC-MAZpg
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Scarr Shaun Carr was sharing about the 585 592 carbs. = I was playing around with the 585 carb when I noticed both the 585 and 592 carbs have the high alcohol tolerant diaphragms. The pump side is also a clear membrane.
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Guy from Ireland = Unlike normal run of things we here in Ireland got the 585/592 very quickly.
I've been running the 585 for 2 months now and am very happy with it, great on fuel one of the best starting saws I've had and plenty of usable power. Anyone that has had a 575/576 will find that the 585/592 will suffer slight dings to the muffler as those models did hardly the end of the world ? The airfilter is top class and in a company role where "I thought he cleaned it " will be very helpful.
I'll be picking up a 592 in the next few days and looking forward to that !
From what I read on stock 585 by Shaun Carr Scarr Engineering. Stock 125-130 psi, they are abnormally low compression. Ported 585 back together last night. My estimates said 155psi compression, it tested at 155psi.
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Shaun's ported 585 cylinder. You can see his trace of before after on piston.
Scarr Engineering
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Shaun Carr = Since the 585 numbers where odd in my opinion I decided to work with it and learn what I can before getting too far with the 592.
So far I've made a few iterations with the 585, obviously we've already seen the muffler mod which didn't really yield much of an improvement.
585 Stock numbers again for quick ref. I might have messed them up in my post a long ways back, given in duration and opening.
Ex 158, 101
Tr 123, 118.5
In 161, 80.5
St 143, 71.5
Next was a was my tame first step at porting. Since the intake duration was so large I didn't want to go too high on the exhaust or transfers as I was worried about crankcase compression. I wanted more compression so I took 0.050" out of the squish and shot for 0.020" squish, it ended up at 0.021".
Ex 158, 101
Tr 120, 120
In 168, 84
St 150, 75
https://youtu.be/ielID_AxzEY
I wasn't very happy with this and I only had a little time in the day so I just did a quick ignition advance study. Advanced 6deg and it picked up a little, no signs or popping or pulling back on the rope. It's a win.
https://youtu.be/OFlT0_SXe0E
Now things get spicy... I didn't like the large intake duration, it's got more than enough volume through the carb there is no need for that much and I believed it was a detriment. So I welded up the piston and added 0.065" to the intake skirt.
Ex 158, 101
Tr 120, 120
In 159, 79.5
St 150, 75
https://youtu.be/xAlLKmPqP5k
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New 592xp video
https://youtu.be/rJ7-7_XQr0k
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https://youtu.be/6wWoLHEMJIE
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OITW = The 592 was delivered on 23 Dec so only started back yesterday but a day was enough to say it's a very good runner. The power band is pretty much all the way through and the AT is as smooth as silk. As I said before I've been running the 585 for a couple of months and am impressed so wasn't expecting a such a big difference allowing for cc. I can say the 585 is a bit like a mix of 390 XP speed and agility (?) with the grunt of a 395 XP and the 592 XP is not unlike a "big" 500i with grunt so no bad thing ? The timber I as a rule fell is too big for harvesters or too "hairy" so I do a lot of de- limbing which in the past meant when I could have really used a 395 size it was just too much of a handful all day now the 585/592 is perfect for all day use.
Spike60 = This comparison is really good stuff, OITW but how about sharing a name to help the conversation flow. Then I can really load ya down with questions. One serious operator who actually owns and runs both models is so much better than the typical , "I heard", "Some guy said", "information" That clutters up so many threads.
Prices for a 592 still looking like $100 over whatever folks were paying for a 395.
Shipping dates; let's just call them entering. First, the dates are a joke, and little faith can be placed in them. Current reality is always in flux, so what's happening next week can be quite different from what's going on today. As of yesterday, my "early release" 585/592 order flipped out to 2-14. My preseason stock order that was supposed to ship on 3-15, has now moved up to 2-8. Huh? A dealer I know in PA had a bunch of other saw models arrive that weren't supposed to ship for another month. I do check every day, but until I see "out for pick", I can't tell anyone anything accurate.
What's driving this in part and it applies to all models, is the transition from Oregon sourced bars to the Swedish made "X-tough" bars. If I enter a dozen different SKU's for any of these saws, ship dates will be all over the place. It's gotten bad enough that they are considering turning on the PHO product codes and shipping powerheads.
I'd be happy to just leave the B&C's on back order cause I need bars now or later either way. Really low on 20" .058's. No Husky XT's and all 3 of my Oregon distributors are out. Been keeping Powercut knockoff's from Rotary and Oregon Versacuts in stock along with the Sugi's, so we've got options. Things aren't that bad in the .050 world, but guys with multiple saws don't want the aggravation of mixed supplies. Some of my customers can easily have 20 plus saws, and many buy chain by the case. And we're talking 20, 24, 28, and 36 inch lengths. Gotta stay with the gauge they are using!
Then...........there's the .325 saws. Only .050 if they run the Sugi's, and some guys want 550's converted to 3/8, which can be either .050 or .058 depending on the customer. The newest wrinkle will be that the T540's are all coming in with the new Nano 80 speed cut chain, so we'll be converting them both ways for a while. Requires a drum/sprocket change. That stuff does cut real sweet, and will win out IMO.
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I have a couple 592's ordered but do not think I will see them until spring and thats maybe , it does look like a nice saw thou
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did they get released in the usa like it said they would, I think the release date was jan. 10th
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did they get released in the usa like it said they would, I think the release date was jan. 10th
Not yet. Moved back again.
Folks still having to get them shipped in from overseas.
Still preorders
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NY Husky dealer said so far 4 592's in his shop yesterday. High volume dealer. 20 more still coming.
Mi dealer so you know. They are here now and all 4 spoke for he said.
Just a pic from past for attention.
Mi dealer said his showing 2-16 ship date still.
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https://youtu.be/V-vABMoJyrs
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NY dealer said the muffler has been reinforced in front compared to the prototype saws he had.
Also = Also a much better re-design of the captured bar nuts. Expect this will eventually make it to the 565/572, as the side cover is otherwise the same. Which in turn means 372 and 390 covers also swap back and forth with the new saws.
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thats good that some are showing up , I'm thinking spring here but maybe abit sooner
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Friend that has a 592xpg coming. = The bar shortage is real, and scary. This is going to be a terrible year for shortages. Husqvarna told us yesterday their having conversations about shipping power heads only because of bar shortages. It’s holding up lots of orders.
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Friends 592XPG
592 muffler
592 clutch cover
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New owner of 592 I know in MI saying the fines are getting in his carb throat area.
Another guy I know in MO saying his is too. Pic.
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The 2 above doing that is XPG's with the blue.
This one 592xp after 1 tank and he said very little fines got in after 1 tank testing. = Well after one tank I found a very small amount of extremely fine dust, so far nothing that is of concern. You can't even see it on the paper towel. Now after 20 tanks the story could be different.
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My dealer says husky is telling her March 3rd on date saws to show up . We will see but hope so . I donot get much fines in my saws . I can go days or even weeks before cleaning my air filters on my saws and they never get dirty
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PHO 592xp weight
PHO 592xpg weight
Rest in the weight thread
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Ed he owned one of your EHP7900 back in the day. Lives south of me a few hours.
https://youtu.be/jUOAMg_vnRg
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1 593258802 AIR FILTER ASSY Yellow, Mesh 27 microns 1
1 593258803 AIR FILTER ASSY Black, Mesh 50 microns 1
1 593258801 AIR FILTER ASSY Nature, Non woven 1
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592 585 owners. On bay already. 53 shipped Full wrap kits
Chris = https://www.ebay.com/itm/HUSQVARNA-FULL-WRAP-HANDLE-WITH-SPIKES-FITS-585-592XP-529-59-39-02-/284634941170?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&fbclid=IwAR28Ds1cUvzU_RSDI0-eO0V5G64dIc5Bihb0tP6bYZHKpSc9GEtTbMtJSUo
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So what is a 592 with 28 inch light bar selling for down there
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Here once they come will be about the same as a 500i
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So what is a 592 with 28 inch light bar selling for down there
Guy that just bought the 592xpG with 32" husky sugi light was 1300ish.
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592 661 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-xskfrC6J0
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592xpG with that 32" light the guy north of me bought.
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Here is the husky 20% off sell PHO prices.
390XP - $910
395XP - $970
3120XP - $1,490
585 - $952
592XP - $1,032
592XPG - $1,080
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New owner of 592 = FYI for any new 592xp owners.
I was having an issue with the saw not priming, bulb would pull no fuel. No start, spark plug dry. Found a kinked primer line to be the culprit. Not sure if others have had this issue, but something to lookout for if yours is doing the same.
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Was the primer line too long.
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Was the primer line too long.
Never followed up to see if he said routing or just to long.
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stihl 661 husky 592
https://youtu.be/N2vvoBr9ZKo
https://youtu.be/s_wBOPug1k8
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Dealer called me yesterday and said no 592s until the end of May saws are to be made put cannot get them trucked up here but that sounds like a pile of BS to me
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That is what the husky rep told her
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That is what the husky rep told her
Guys getting them saying even after run in even stock only pulling 135psi.
Guy from my chainsaw repair group FB.
https://youtu.be/RQbuhKflU14
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Jeremy on my FB group. piped 592 and piped 395 work saws. Both stock with pipes. Ported next
https://youtu.be/pbHZSLNALMQ
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husky is saying no 592s up here but I can order them off kijiji and I know they are out west but I will wait for my dealer to get them , its not like I'm hurting for saws lol
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I was priced a 585 the other day for $975.
Another dealer wanted $1250 for 585 with 20". That is high retail list
But husky is adding a fuel surcharge now too of 6.5% to dealer orders. So that will be tacked on now too.
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My stihl dealer just phoned me and has a 592 sitting there for me . I'm aways up north but will be back home to get it on sat
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So far it seems ok. 7 pin is a joke so now putting a 8 pin on it . It came with a 28 inch bar but I put a 24 inch setup on it . First tank I fell a fair number of trees with it so I'm guessing pretty on fuel than a 500i but have to break it in and then see how many trees to a gallon of fuel to really know . Oils the bar real good
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got about 8 or so tanks threw it now , need to put 10 or more to see what I really got
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Its ok but so far it's not resetting the carb as fast as the 462 stihl that is forsure . I need to put more tanks threw it but when the top end is jetted good its fairly lean on low end . With this crazy weather the computer needs to set quite fast
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gave this 592 to buddy to run and my other 2 -592s showed up finally , they will sit for a bit before going into service
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Dealer in Ohio got a pallet of the 592 $1200 and 585 $1100 and does ship if you contact him.
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Buddy loves how the 592 runs , there starting to show up at dealers here now as well , not much else from Husky but at least some kind of saw for the dealers to sell
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Can’t remember which it was now part number wise. 5mm one for 585 L side. Comparing to common spline.
Just saving.
In pics
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stock 592 timing numbers on another one.
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https://youtu.be/YBfm719e1Xw
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maybe once ported I may like them but I'm not a fan on how it runs stock
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Dyno runs by Joe. stock 660 661 395 592
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https://youtu.be/W24Qe4LqSA4
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so how is everyone liking the new 592 , Not many 585's around here
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so how is everyone liking the new 592 , Not many 585's around here
Seems guys like them with the shorter bars. If over 28" they still grabbing 395's. Just what I read from owners with both.
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there is a few of them running here as not real easy to get them up here , I have 3 of the 592s , I ran the one for a very short time and it went to one of the guys I know and he has been running it and likes it . The other 2 are sitting in their boxes here , I never took them out of their boxes . I just like the stihl better for falling timber
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Redesigned the 585 592 crankcases already due to the breaking at spike area and maybe av limiter area.
Serial number start for updated cases.