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Title: Mini GTG for 3ci saw and chain comparisons
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 15, 2012, 06:50:50 pm
Today we got together to test some 325 chain with 7T  and some 3/8 chain with 7T same saws. I forgot to test 8T 325 on some saws and for got to try 325 on some ported saws. But I think what I seen with 325 3/8 comparison would have been the same. Same  chain was run and was new out of box chain.

Here is some of the saws ran in 12" hardwood today. Thinking wood was cherry or hard maple.

stock husky 346xp 50cc,  325 7T  10.0 10.4,   3/8 7T  5.63  5.62

stock dolmar 5105 with 5100 muffler,   3/8 7T  5.59  5.50

ported 346 45cc #2 346 carb, 3/8 7T  4.75  5.22

stock partner 5000 , 3/8 7T 5.47 5.84

ported redmax 5000, 3/8 7T  3.68  3.97

ported 346 45cc #1 357 carb,   3/8 7T  3.66  3.78

ported 026 with stock 026  carb with H L, 325 7T 6.97 (7.94 hit knot), 325 8T 8.65 8.61,  3/8 7T 7.63  7.69

stock 357xp, 3/8 7T  4.29  4.34

I just love 3/8 on the saws when they have the guts to pull it.  ;D

Title: Re: Mini GTG for saw and chain comparisons
Post by: man of stihl on April 15, 2012, 07:09:21 pm
Thanks for putting up the times. I like that the stock Partner 5000+ was right there with the stock 346 and 5105. 8)
Title: Re: Mini GTG for saw and chain comparisons
Post by: Al Smith on April 15, 2012, 07:09:43 pm
Say that 034/036 originally had .325 on it when it was still a stock 034 .After the rework it got 3/8" and the speed increase was really dramatic .The .325 stuff ended up on an 028 which is in my shed .
Title: Re: Mini GTG for saw and chain comparisons
Post by: rms61moparman on April 15, 2012, 09:49:11 pm

Once again I'm blown away by how well a ported 45cc saw can run!!!


Mike
Title: Re: Mini GTG for saw and chain comparisons
Post by: wkpoor on April 28, 2012, 08:50:27 am
Thanks Kev. I'll look forward to matching my PP346xp up against bigger saws with 20 or 24" bars on June 2nd
Title: Re: Mini GTG for saw and chain comparisons
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 28, 2012, 04:43:46 pm
Bill I normally just run 16" on my 0-53cc sized saws.  What-cha up to wanting to run 20-24's.

Bushweasel = Jason from Idaho ran a self ported 45cc (I think it was 45cc pretty sure) with 24" and 3/8 buried in cottonwood at my last gtg. There was a video somewhere at one time. So dont know if it is still out there or not to see.
Title: Re: Mini GTG for saw and chain comparisons
Post by: EHP on May 02, 2012, 03:30:07 pm
the 5000 red max is not doing to bad , does it still have the little carb on it
Title: Re: Mini GTG for saw and chain comparisons
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 02, 2012, 07:24:31 pm
the 5000 red max is not doing to bad , does it still have the little carb on it

original little carb and I had the heat shield on the front of muffler.  I had all the saws set at a rich working type rpm. Turn that redmax up and remove the heat shield she runs even better.

Then again so does the 45cc 346 if I turn it up for cookie cutting.
Title: Re: Mini GTG for saw and chain comparisons
Post by: EHP on May 02, 2012, 08:55:05 pm
the 5000 is a good running saw but I know the 346 is better , at least it was at my house
Title: Re: Mini GTG for 3ci saw and chain comparisons
Post by: rms61moparman on May 06, 2012, 12:01:34 am
I guess the question is........"Does it run $300.00 better?"
The 5000 is an older saw that can be bought pretty cheap and the 346 has to work its azz off to stay ahead of it!
A real slick 5000 or 5000+ is one of the best values in a saw around.


Mike
Title: Re: Mini GTG for 3ci saw and chain comparisons
Post by: EHP on May 06, 2012, 08:11:24 pm
that redmax 5000 is the only 5000 I have ever seen, not many redmax saws around here and up north there are ZERO of them, not saying there not a good saw but just no dealers
Title: Re: Mini GTG for 3ci saw and chain comparisons
Post by: Old Iron Logging on May 06, 2012, 08:27:35 pm
Nothing wrong with the 5000 Redmax. They were a very popular saw down here. Dealers did not like it when they were discontinued. Tough saw and good power for only $499 the last year available. 152 Efco is a stronger blocking saw but the 5000 is better in the limbs.
Title: Re: Mini GTG for 3ci saw and chain comparisons
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 06, 2012, 10:53:36 pm
I think Mike was referring to the Partner 5000 and 5000 plus.
Title: Re: Mini GTG for 3ci saw and chain comparisons
Post by: EHP on May 06, 2012, 11:44:24 pm
I was thinking the same thing but we were talking about the redmax
Title: Re: Mini GTG for 3ci saw and chain comparisons
Post by: Al Smith on May 07, 2012, 07:19:12 am
Bushweasel = Jason from Idaho ran a self ported 45cc .----speaking of whom ,where did he wander off to ?

Since a few new forums have started  and a few others have less traffic , it seems some have changed user names now I'm about half lost who is who any more .
Title: Re: Mini GTG for 3ci saw and chain comparisons
Post by: 660magnum on May 07, 2012, 10:22:22 am
This little GTG that Kevin did last month inspired me to change my Husky 346XP NE to 3/8" RSC from the .325 that was on it. I put the .325 B&C on my Husky 350 chainsaw that doesn't have as much power as the NE.
Title: Re: Mini GTG for 3ci saw and chain comparisons
Post by: Al Smith on May 07, 2012, 12:25:43 pm
 From my observation it seems 3 cubic inch is about the break off point from the original ideas they had about chain size .It seems those above ran 3/8" and smaller ran .325 . You get closer to 2 cubic inch and it drops down to 3/8" lo pro/pico .

On the other end those above 6 cubic inch it was .404 but here of late it seems it can go either way ,3/8" or .404 .That would of course depend on the region and preference of the saw operater .
Title: Re: Mini GTG for 3ci saw and chain comparisons
Post by: man of stihl on August 10, 2012, 05:29:51 pm
Any one do a timed test cut between a stock 346OE VS stock 346NE VS stock 52cc 350? I finally got my 346 OE running today. Runs good IMO. I had to rob lots of parts off of my 350 though. I think i'll just keep the 350 for parts. They dont bring much on ebay...
Title: Re: Mini GTG for 3ci saw and chain comparisons
Post by: 660magnum on August 10, 2012, 05:56:39 pm
I thought it was in the first post of this thread but Kevin had already put the ported cylinder on the 346 OE.

But we did run the old and the new stock together at one time and there was a noticeable torque increase on the NE.

The OE did its best, more or less, to let it feed itself and not push on the bar.
Title: Re: Mini GTG for 3ci saw and chain comparisons
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 10, 2012, 06:08:12 pm
MOS  we had played with the OE NE and 350 when they were stock for stock running 325 chains only. That I can remember before this testing was done.
 No times were kept just comparing saws in cut. There was a noticeable torque difference felt in the cut leaning on them in the OE to NE. IMO stock the 350 wasnt even in the ball park as the OE or NE.
Title: Re: Mini GTG for 3ci saw and chain comparisons
Post by: man of stihl on August 10, 2012, 08:31:14 pm
The 372 clamp worked great BTW.