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Saws in Action - GTG Events Competitions - Janka Wood Hardness Scale - World Records - Firewood BTU Comparison Chart => Saws in Action => Topic started by: Cut4fun on May 05, 2012, 12:17:45 pm
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At the moment I am setting up a mini gtg to run some stock 60cc-65cc saws for comparisons. All will be run with 3/8 chain and 7T for sure. Might do 8T if I have time and energy to so so. Will also put the 57cc 357xp in the mix.
Right now I think I can come up with a brand new not broken in 365 special, 362xp not broken in off fresh rebuild, 036 pro not broken in off fresh rebuild, dolmar 6000, 357xp, (asking permission to use the sold poulan 3750 60cc bad boy on my shelf), poulan 4000, poulan pro 365, poulan pro 415.
Hey Mike aka: rsmoparman why dont you run up here with your dolmar 6400 pleeeeeeeese
Dang need a 562xp too.
I might have more out there I forgot to add to list. :-[
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I need to know the wood size before i make my vote. The bigger the wood , the 365sp and the 036 will do better. IMO.
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Everything I've been told, a 562 will run with a stock 372...so thats where my money is
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Everything I've been told, a 562 will run with a stock 372...so thats where my money is
It wont win because they dont have one to test.... ;)
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Ron there is bigger wood about 20mins away, but I am limited to what I can lift into my truck by myself. So it will be smaller hardwood pieces I was about to lift 4' chunks of. I will go measure right now and get back with you in post.
I ran a stock demo 562 and it left me unimpressed Jeff with all the hype I have read about it. Of course this saw was probably not broken in and the dealer didnt even have the computer hook up tool to do the updates. Seemed very peaky and was easily stopped in the cut, this was just the one I ran. I know it wasnt worth the $749 retail asking price IMO. The 036 pro I just put together seemed stronger after rebuild. Could have just been the 562xp I ran, who knows.
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I wasnt lifting as big as I thought, 2 pieces are only 30"-31" length by 16"x18" round.
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You should have let me know you was doing this. i could have came out with a stock 262xp and a ported 365sp to add to the mix... ;)
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Havent done it yet. Just setting the line up up.
Dont think my local dealer friend would let me borrow the demo 562 for a extended time to try.
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Just so people know.
I run these test with saws set rich like firewood cutting conditions. Not top wot max rpm's like you would on the edge for cookie cut racing.
The 3ci test cutting we did earlier. The saws were set up the the same way on the rich side not pushing the edge of tuning..
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I've got a crisp new $20.00 bill that says I know the winner already!!!
I wish picking derby horses was this easy!LOL
Mike
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Kevin it must of been that 562 , cause the ones I have ran were very dam strong for a 59cc saw and none of them were peaky , if anything maybe a touch rich but tons of torque
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Well guys this ended up wash imho. The wood was to inconsistent. Started off hard and knotty and would get smaller as cuts went and wood would get softer. Ran out of 1st log so started on 2nd log and it was rock hard with swirls in heart wood and got smaller and softer too.
Also the saw that impressed me the most except for it's weight was the like new Dolmar 6000i.
I will post saws as ran in order and you will see what I mean.
362xp 9.78 11.18 - (knot) wood size started 16" tall x 18" wide
365 SP 9.52 9.69
415 8.44 8.78 wood seemed softer and getting smaller
4000 9.90 10.09 wood seemed lot softer
6000i 8.47 7.53 wood was a lot softer and measured 15.5" tall x 16.5" wide wood seemed to have a punky outer ring
357 8.25 7.59 same as above
PP365 9.25 9.37 " " "
3500 9.25 9.28 " " "
Ran out of log went to 2nd log, This log was rock hard and swirled hear wood. Then fell off quick to very soft smaller wood
3750 15.94 18.09 - (knot city) rock hard 16.25" tall x 17.5" wide
036 11.53 10.85 seemed super hard
6000 12.03 11.60
365 SP 9.68 8.50 noticed wood fell off big time super soft
357 8's 7's wood was ridiculously soft now and quit
To me the 415, 6000i, 365 SP saws were the torque saws.
Was a little frustrating not being able to do a fair comparison with all saws in consistent wood.
Still had fun and talking chainsaws. Also learned about the Dolmar i series saws. Never knew they didnt have a choke type butterfly. Was neat to check all of that out.
Sorry guys I tried but the wood was just inconsistent to call a winner.
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No doubt the 415 is gonna come out on top, and the 6000i is gonna be right there too.
I sure hope we can repeat a version of this test on the 2nd!
I wish I could have been there with my 6400.
Have you ran my 120si?
Mike
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I dont think I have ran your 120si? 68cc isnt it?
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Mike, Ohiogregg was talking about poulan 4200. What cc is that?
I think I ran a 4200 and 5200 at the poulan gtg and was very impressed.
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When I ran a 562 It didn't fell like a runner. A watch could tell a differant tale though. It could be because there so quiet and smooth that it didn't feel fast. Absolutely no vibration at all, very smooth.
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The 4200 is around 68/69cc.
They are a very impressive saw for their time.
Mike
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I had to grab some pics of the 6000i after putting it through it's cuts yesterday.
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/166/6000idolmar002.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/166/6000idolmar001.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/166/6000idolmar004.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/166/6000idolmar005.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/166/6000idolmar003.jpg)
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ya a 6400 should do alright in this as well, I have also seen a huge differences in husky 365's , I have ran a couple now that were every bit as strong as most 372's and they were 365's , other 365's did not do much for me :o