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Re: titan 57 the saw the legend
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2011, 01:35:50 pm »
Good looking job .

On that 70 I may have over estimated it .Cutting some hard oak yesterday at the GTG it didn't do quite as well as I thought it would . I had thought for a while it was about heads up to a Stihl 044 but I was mistaken although for 70 cc's not too bad .Fact is it played second fiddle to both a 6-10 and a 700 both being 70 cc saws .

Ha on that I imagine Kevins ears are still ringing from the 6-10 which has an early style gutted muffler from a 10-10 .The one that has the sweep in the bottom rather than a square floor .Not much restriction on that one ,loud . ;D

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Re: titan 57 the saw the legend
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2011, 01:54:27 pm »
hey al, the t70's were a good saw, not as much torque in the cut as an 044 and a little more "peaky" but they were a good srong runnger. and could be made to run better quite easily. i found they like to be a little fat, tuned around 11500 to just under 12000rpm. most would sound a little lean at anything over 12000rpm anyway :)
 i have no idea why mcculloch couldn't make a quieter muffler for those 10 series saws. my gawd, you'd think the person who designed it was already deaf from birth :D probably not even born with ears ;D but man do they ever make great torque.
on a side note. about 10 years ago i had an older gentleman show up with a really beaten to hell pm700 he wanted the chain sharpened on. he dropped it off and said he would be back in a couple few days to get'er (his words). i sharpened the chain, made another for it and decked the bar.
i go out to test it in the big log out back and the thing was winding up waaaay to high. put the tac on it and she was right around 15000rpm, but still burbling. i tried to get that saw to run properly at 12500 but she was having none of it. it just wouldn't pull it self throught the wood. no air leaks or problems i could find. i spun it back up to where it was and set it on the shelf. guy comes in 2 days later, i asked him about it and he said that was where it was when he bought it new in '79 and it has never wanted to run anywhere else. man did that saw cut it's as$ off! it would hold really good rpm's in the wood. that saw is still going today after cutting an honest 15-20 full cord of wood every year up until about 5 years ago when the old guy left this earth. his grand son lives a few properties down from me and still uses it for a tractor bucket saw. still pulls 160psi comp. and looks good through the exhaust and intake. some very minor scorring on the intake side but i wouldn't pull it down for that.
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Re: titan 57 the saw the legend
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2011, 02:29:09 pm »
It's typical for a 10 series to scuff the intake side ,doesn't seem to hurt them though .The air filters weren't the best .

I never tached a 700 but I have that 6-10 and WOT is over 15 thou .Similar but not the same .The 700 has porting and transfer much akin to the 850 whereas the 6-10 is more like the older 10-10's with a full skirt and three semi closed tunnels ,grooves what ever they might be called .

Probabley because of the torque both the 700 and especially the 6-10 could handle an 8 pin but it really doesn't make any diff to me anymore .They're pullers and that's what I like .

On the 70 perhaps a little better tuning is in order but then again I seldom use that saw simpley because of it's rarity .That aside the saw has a good balance and to me at least is a comfortable saw to operate .

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Re: titan 57 the saw the legend
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2011, 12:11:37 pm »
man, ran the 57 last night for a couple of hours at a friends house. this saw runs nice 8) i'm running a 16" bar/chain, but
an 18" bar is about perfect on it. no idea who decided these should come with a 24" :D
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Re: titan 57 the saw the legend
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2011, 01:08:29 pm »
 I can't say as I've ever seen a Mac bar in 18" for what would be the same size as the 10 series bar mount .16" 20" 24" 28" and 32" .The old large mount bars for like the 250 ,125 etc came in 18" .

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Re: titan 57 the saw the legend
« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2011, 03:26:10 pm »
up here we sold the pm700 with a 18" bar/chain, most of the time. we had them in either oregon, windsor or the mcculloch brand. :)
of the handfull of the 850's and double eagle 80's we sold, they went out the door mostly with 18" bar/chains. some with 16" on them. nobody wants long bars 'round here, we just cut fire wood :D a big tree thats good for fire wood around here is around 2'dia. nobody wants to touch any bigger.
the titan 57's that we sold were offered with 16"-24" (we recomended 18"-20" tops). some people wanted the 24" bar...... ::) ;D
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Re: titan 57 the saw the legend
« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2011, 03:42:20 pm »
Just seems odd to me . Usually on an 80 cc a 24" is about the right size . A 60 cc either 16 or 20" .Then again they do things slightly different depending on the location I suppose .

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Re: titan 57 the saw the legend
« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2011, 04:39:29 pm »
we had one older fella, about the time i started at bentons, ask for a 14" bar for his 850 ::) he was going to use it for cutting ends off of the posts he was splitting. john told him he would have a loose crank in about 5 tanks if the saw was set properly.  theres no way you can load an 850 with a 14"bar/chain combo in cedar. nobody made a 14" bar for the 850 anyway. the guy was rather dissapointed. he ended up with a 16" ;D and we never seen him again :D good. guy was a miserable prik, to say the least.
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Re: titan 57 the saw the legend
« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2011, 08:58:24 pm »
Speaking of which ,I used the 805 today to drop a 36" ash . I just had to do it rather than let it be a shelf queen all the time .That thing handles a 24" like it's childs play .

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Re: titan 57 the saw the legend
« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2011, 09:44:12 am »
yep! a 24"er on an 80cc saw is fine :) throw one on a 57cc saw and it turns that poor saw into a tired dog. :D
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