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Re: Is anyone using alternative gas?
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2013, 05:07:56 pm »
As a side note to this thread, the majority of methanol we use in the USA comes from crude oil/natural gas.
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Re: Is anyone using alternative gas?
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2013, 07:31:07 am »
Quote from: 660magnum on February 20, 2013, 05:07:56 pm
As a side note to this thread, the majority of methanol we use in the USA comes from crude oil/natural gas.
Today it does come from methane(in natural gas), but it originally it was called wood alcohol...guess why? also very low heat content.
In fuel stabiliser it is mainly for absorbing water. 
Isopropyl is from petroleum.

I use No-E   91 octane from an airport in southern New Hampshire. About $5 a gallon.
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Re: Is anyone using alternative gas?
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2013, 09:07:51 am »
Quote from: dynodave on March 01, 2013, 07:31:07 am
I use No-E   91 octane from an airport in southern New Hampshire. About $5 a gallon.

That's just premium autogas.  A few airports (typically smaller ones) make the extra effort to locate and carry non-ethanol autogas, since some piston aircraft engines can run on it safely, and it's significantly less expensive than aviation gas(100LL).  Marinas and small airports are a great place to look, if you can't find E0 gas elsewhere.

There is one upside to burning leaded AvGas (if you don't mind breathing the lead fumes)... it's incredibly stable. That stuff just seems to keep forever, even without added stabilizers.  Still, having worked around molten lead for a good bit of my life (in a plant that uses huge pans of molten lead as a transfer medium when heat treating steel wire), I've learned to minimize exposure to the fumes whenever possible.
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Re: Is anyone using alternative gas?
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2013, 11:38:09 am »
Quote from: John Mc on March 01, 2013, 09:07:51 am
Quote from: dynodave on March 01, 2013, 07:31:07 am
I use No-E   91 octane from an airport in southern New Hampshire. About $5 a gallon.

That's just premium autogas.  A few airports (typically smaller ones) make the extra effort to locate and carry non-ethanol autogas, since some piston aircraft engines can run on it safely, and it's significantly less expensive than aviation gas(100LL).  Marinas and small airports are a great place to look, if you can't find E0 gas elsewhere.

There is one upside to burning leaded AvGas (if you don't mind breathing the lead fumes)... it's incredibly stable. That stuff just seems to keep forever, even without added stabilizers.  Still, having worked around molten lead for a good bit of my life (in a plant that uses huge pans of molten lead as a transfer medium when heat treating steel wire), I've learned to minimize exposure to the fumes whenever possible.

You may be correct as to the 91 being mogas, but around here you can not get it without ethanol anywhere except stupid priced race gas. And at the airport it must go in a plane or a carry gas can. You can't get on the flight line with your vehicle and will not sell it to you if you say it goes in a vehicle.
The 100LL is a buck a gallon more, and I don't need it for my saws and garden tractors.
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Re: Is anyone using alternative gas?
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2013, 12:55:37 pm »
We had a year or so of E0 gas not being available at all in VT, then a couple years of it only being available in the summer (I guess we can thank the boating industry for their lobbying power in at least getting it available for the boating season). It all used to come down out of Canada.  Now a couple of gas stations have found a source for it even in the winter -- I think it's coming from the Albany, NY area.
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Re: Is anyone using alternative gas?
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2013, 10:20:30 am »
When I was in the local husky dealer yesterday I seen they have their own branded canned fuel now.

Didnt see any 40:1 just 50:1.  About $30 a gal  :o   http://www.husqvarna.com/us/accessories/other-accessories/fuel/pre-mixed-2-stroke-fuel-oil/

others

trufuel   http://www.trufuel50.com/ProductInfo.aspx

stihl motomix http://www.stihlusa.com/products/technology/stihl-motomix/

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Re: Is anyone using alternative gas?
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Re: Is anyone using alternative gas?
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2014, 02:30:50 pm »
Thanks, good info..
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Re: Is anyone using alternative gas?
« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2014, 03:15:51 pm »
As a matter of fact I was over at our local Stihl dealer and priced out his moto-mix canned gas. Can is 950ml or 1 US quart for $9.50 CDN tax not included. 4 cans making 1 US gal would cost with tax incl. $42 and a few cents. Has 50:1 Stihl Ultra full syn.

Here a gal of premium with no ethenol [the station claims] costs $6 gal , add Stihl Ultra at 40:1 the gal will be approx. $10, dealer sells a 6 pack of 200ml bottles of Stihl Ultra for $35.
Now for my outfit I can see using a few cans of Moto Mix a year in my 395XP-36"which I don't use that often. It's always in my pickup ready for treework but I end up dumping the gas in my stump grinder if it sits for too long.

The dealer says he sells a lot of it to the paper mill and other big companies who use saws every now and then. No more mess mixing gas , storage and environmental problems. He also says its cuts down his warranty claims from those who use it .
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Re: Is anyone using alternative gas?
« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2014, 02:17:57 pm »
I use a non-ethanol gas called rec-90, I get it from the local Clark station.
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