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Offline wkpoor

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Quote from Another Site
« on: March 04, 2012, 01:14:42 pm »
This posted on Hearth.com. What do you guys think. Says he is a pro. Seems a little off the mark to me.
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The difference is a non or EPA stove isnít gonna kill someone.
Youíre hyping high performance, high horse power saws on a mostly newbie saw using/wood burning crowd as a resonably priced alternative. I doubt in the end it is factoring in emergency room bills.
The difference in weight between a 346 and 372 is 2.5 lbs. Big whoop! I donít need more HP and less weight with a saw that kicks like a Columbian pack mule cranked up on his own freight!
If you wanna party in your back yard droppin a hopped up saw on logs makin cookies so be it. Donít make it sound like the end all to a bunch of newbies with little saw handling experience in real world , wood under pressure, wood cutting circumstances.
Iíve been felling for 28 years and never felt the need to port a saw.

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Re: Quote from Another Site
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2012, 01:30:56 pm »
Bill I hate to say it but I have found this to be true.

I take care of local firewood cutters and all they want is a saw to start and run good. They want it to idle all day when set down and have sharp chain to cut with to start. Someone to depend on that they can take their chains to for sharp chain.

They think it is neat seeing a ported saw in action but that is where it stops, they dont see the need for it. Most will however put up with a little extra noise of a muffler mod. Some wont do to the extra noise.

This is why I dont port anything (not worth my time) and just rebuild stock saws for resale to the firewood crowd.   

Heck I even got out of the ported stuff myself. It just dont matter to me if I can get through a hardwood log 40% faster.  Now if I was getting paid by the amount cut it would be a different story.
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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2012, 01:36:01 pm »
What puzzles me though is the ported saws I've ran actually run better, start easier and after a day of firewood cutting are less tiresome because they cut so much easier.

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« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2012, 01:42:54 pm »
Have you ever dealt with the average income firewood cutters out there running the wild things and 33cc poulans. It is hard enough to move them up and spend the money on a good used pro grade saw. Let alone the average cost of woods porting a saw.
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« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2012, 01:53:15 pm »
Seems there are many good used ported saws for sale that cost less than new stock. But I realize getting someone to buy a used ported saw might be a stretch too. Everybody wants a saw from a local dealer so he can get raped when he brings it back.

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« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2012, 02:15:44 pm »
It's best to buy woods ported used saws if wanting that IMO. Just watch out on the porter and their reason for selling. They have been known to fib.

I know of 2 357 woods ported here latley that sold for $300. Now those are steals and deals. But these guys around here would have laughed at that price too.

You tell these local guys a  pro grade used saw is $300 and they go bugged eyed. 

I priced a like new limited edition poulan bad boy 3750 60cc for $250 with new 20" b+c  and runs right with a 262xp but handles better IMHO. Now go and try and buy a new 60cc saw and see what that cost.   Guys will go buy the $400 out the door ms290 first thinking they got a real saw.  :D  Most guys around here wont even spend that though.

Now I did sale a woods ported 372 by Dave Neiger for $400 24" b+c with new oem tank on it and a woods ported 026 by Dan Henry for $300 with 20" b+c. But this buyer also new the cost of new stock saws and the difference a pro saw makes.
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« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2012, 03:20:34 pm »
I know a few people that will go every year to the pawn shops and pick up 1 or 2 little husky/poulan/stihl home owner saws for $75-100 a piece and use them til they quit and most don't make it a year instead of buyin gone decent saw and keeping the chains sharp and using fresh gas instead of whatever is left over. My friend his step dad uses those little poulan/craftsman saws and heats his house with them. It takes him 3x as long to get a load cut then it does stepping up to say a 555 sized saw.

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Re: Quote from Another Site
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2012, 04:17:07 pm »
What puzzles me though is the ported saws I've ran actually run better, start easier and after a day of firewood cutting are less tiresome because they cut so much easier.
I dont use small cheap saws for firewood. I dont like to use 50cc saws unless they are ported. 60cc saws or bigger for me. The faster i can get my work done the better. And sounds to me this "pro" has never run a ported saw. ;)
Have you ever dealt with the average income firewood cutters out there running the wild things and 33cc poulans. It is hard enough to move them up and spend the money on a good used pro grade saw. Let alone the average cost of woods porting a saw.
They need to run a 440 or a 372 for a day to open there eyes. I started out on cheap junk saws, then i ran a pro saw and never looked back. Now, would i send out a saw to be ported for work?, probably not. Would i port it myself to gain a little performance.... Hell yeah. ;D
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« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2012, 07:37:25 pm »
It's all how you look at I guess .Those average  Craftsman /Poulans or Lowes grade Husqvarnas have cut a lot of firewood .To the person only cutting a couple three cords maybe per year they do very well .

Now granted usually when they die that's it .They go out and buy another but it might take ten years to kill one and that's usually just a funky carb .

Myself ,I soup them because I can .Not a big deal just something I do because I get a lot of enjoyment out of it .I mean what the hey if I need a more powerfull saw I've got a shed full to choose from .It's just kind of neat to get a 70 cc to run about heads up with a 90 . ;D---but it's not for everybody ,ya gotta be a gear head at heart I guess .

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« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2012, 09:30:46 pm »
That thread like a lot of them got a little off track. It started with someone asking about porting their saw. I have some posts over there talking about how well I like ported saws. Then it got to the point, who in the world would want to do that, ain't safe, and cutting cookies for sport is just plain stupid.

 

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