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Banana tip bar
« on: February 13, 2015, 03:09:18 pm »
Trying to dig up info for the guy with 16"  44196 poulan bar.

Looks like a k041 mount to me but could be wrong and 196 mount going by the part number?

Looks like full 3/8 050 and wondering about the drive link count?

I'm just WAGing any real info?



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Re: Banana tip bar
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2015, 04:27:29 pm »
Closest I've been able to find to that part # was a 44195 16" A041 mount 3/8-LP sprocket nose bar in a Micro XXV series IPL.

http://www.barrettsmallengine.com/partslist/poulanmicroxxvchainsaw.pdf
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For older saws:
Tune the H side so that it 4-strokes (burbles) at WOT unloaded and just cleans up when under load.
When you lift cutting load, the saw should immediately revert to 4-stroking.  Fine tune the transition point for the wood you're cutting.

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Re: Banana tip bar
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2015, 06:18:52 pm »
K041 has a 6.4mm slot
D176, D196, & D276 are all 8mm
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Re: Banana tip bar
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2015, 06:54:44 pm »
Trying to dig up info for the guy with 16"  44196 poulan bar.

Looks like a k041 mount to me but could be wrong and 196 mount going by the part number?

Looks like full 3/8 050 and wondering about the drive link count?

I'm just WAGing any real info?




My Poulan 3400 had a bar like that when I got it. I do know that the chain would not fit a better 16" bar I put on it by one DL.

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Re: Banana tip bar
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2015, 11:20:53 pm »
K041 has a 6.4mm slot
D176, D196, & D276 are all 8mm

K041 and A041 both have a 5/16" stud slot slot, as does the D176 and D276. 

D196/D096/UXL/TXL has a 3/8" slot. 

The A064 Frontier mount (like on the little bastard Skil/etc tophandles) and A061 (little Homelite XL/XL2/Super2/etc) have 6.4mm slots.
-Aaron

For older saws:
Tune the H side so that it 4-strokes (burbles) at WOT unloaded and just cleans up when under load.
When you lift cutting load, the saw should immediately revert to 4-stroking.  Fine tune the transition point for the wood you're cutting.

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Re: Banana tip bar
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2015, 11:44:41 pm »
IF YOU FOLLOW THE REST OF THE POSTS IN THIS THREAD, YOU WILL FIND THAT THESE LINKS (AUS) IN THIS POST ARE NOT CORRECT. THE LISTED DIMENSIONS ARE NOT TO BE RELIED UPON!  READ ON FOR THE GENUINE OREGON CATALOG REFERENCES (660)

A041, K041, A061 = 1/4"
http://www.oregonchain.com.au/a061.html

A064 = 1/4"
http://www.oregonchain.com.au/a064.html

D196 = 8mm or .315"
http://www.oregonchain.com.au/d196.html

D176 & D276 = 8mm or .315"
http://www.oregonchain.com.au/d176.html

3/8" = .375" = 9.25mm
1/4" = .250" = 6.4mm

I have a suspicion that these charts are not exactly accurate? That these dimensions are nominal and in real life out in the woods, you'll find Them a little different from these links? That these bar types were consolidated to save on inventory space and cost?



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Re: Banana tip bar
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2015, 11:49:53 pm »
Sorry Jim.  That Oregon stuff there is wrong.  The A041/K041 and A064 pages you linked to both show a pic of an A061 mount bar (in error).

The D196 page you linked to shows a pic of a D176 mount (in error).  The A061 is very distinctive.  1/4" open ended slot, with a larger square section in the front for the square tensioner stud on those saws.

The D176 mount page you linked to shows the correct mount.



This is the A061 mount:



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Tune the H side so that it 4-strokes (burbles) at WOT unloaded and just cleans up when under load.
When you lift cutting load, the saw should immediately revert to 4-stroking.  Fine tune the transition point for the wood you're cutting.

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Re: Banana tip bar
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2015, 11:51:51 pm »
Look at the 2015 Oregon catalog.  Start at page 138, and go through 144.  The correct mounts are there.  I also have many many bars in the A041, D176, A061, and D196 mounts (and a couple K041's and A064's).

http://content.yudu.com/web/y5b2/0A1k7eb/OregonBigCat2015/flash/resources/1.htm?refUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.oregonproducts.com%2Fpro%2Fpro_home.htm

Page 138 of the Oregon catalog shows the A041, A061, and A064.

Page 140 has the K041.

Page 143 has the D096 (basically the same as the D196) and D176.

Page 144 has the D196 and the A041/A074/A095 specialty 'multi fit' mount used with their Sculptor carving bars.

-Aaron

For older saws:
Tune the H side so that it 4-strokes (burbles) at WOT unloaded and just cleans up when under load.
When you lift cutting load, the saw should immediately revert to 4-stroking.  Fine tune the transition point for the wood you're cutting.