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Re: HDA-164 NLA?????????
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2013, 02:05:37 pm »
I've pressure tested a few carbs and found leaks that I never knew existed
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Re: HDA-164 NLA?????????
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2013, 02:44:24 pm »
Just throwing this out there.  So far I have not had a bad 164.  Had many on 330's 3750's 3450's. I have bought used 164's and still never a problem with them either.

Did read about the last of the new discontinued 330's back in the day having issues with 164's though.

They (HDA164's on PP330's)  seem to be hit and miss.  Either you have a good one.............or you have a BAD one.  Modified Mark had a bad one on a new saw.  Carb was replaced with an HDA137 under warranty.  I'm no stranger to saw carbs, and I couldn't save the 164 that I had.  I still have the carb stashed somewhere...............................just in case somebody comes up with a 'fix' for these carbs.
-Aaron

For older saws:
Tune the H side so that it 4-strokes (burbles) at WOT unloaded and just cleans up when under load.
When you lift cutting load, the saw should immediately revert to 4-stroking.  Fine tune the transition point for the wood you're cutting.

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Re: HDA-164 NLA?????????
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2013, 03:27:06 pm »
I have had the same experience as Aaron and i never got them fixed, I had the put a 137 on my 3750 to cure the problem..

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Re: HDA-164 NLA?????????
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2013, 03:35:37 pm »
I have had the same experience as Aaron and i never got them fixed, I had the put a 137 on my 3750 to cure the problem..

Yep.  Scott (Treemonkey) is a wizard with HDA199 carburetors (they can also be evil)......................but even he has stated that he hasn't yet figured out how to fix the ailing HDA164's.  They don't respond to his HDA199 fixes....
-Aaron

For older saws:
Tune the H side so that it 4-strokes (burbles) at WOT unloaded and just cleans up when under load.
When you lift cutting load, the saw should immediately revert to 4-stroking.  Fine tune the transition point for the wood you're cutting.

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Re: HDA-164 NLA?????????
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2013, 03:41:06 pm »
Guys there is a member here sawagain that has the fixes for the troubled 200T carbs too.  $29.99 when you send your carb.   Just so you know.

http://www.sawagain.com/stihl-ms-200t-carburetor-service/

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Send us your Zama or Walbro carburetor from your Stihl MS 200T or 020T and we will replace it with a rebuilt OEM replacement. We take these carburetors down clean and and thougroughly inspect all parts, replace diaphrams and hardware and then test and tune on our shops MS 200 for proper performace.

Send carburetor and a prepayment 29.99 (this includes rebuilt unit plus return postage) enclose check or indicate you would like to pay with PayPal or a credit card.


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Re: HDA-164 NLA?????????
« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2013, 05:15:13 pm »
Pay more for your new 137 then you got in your saw.  3 of them listed $120 apiece. He says the used item is wrong, NOS.  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360499325229&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123
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Re: HDA-164 NLA?????????
« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2013, 08:54:33 pm »
Pay more for your new 137 then you got in your saw.  3 of them listed $120 apiece. He says the used item is wrong, NOS.  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360499325229&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123

I saw that earlier also and found it to be nothing short of ridiculous.
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Re: HDA-164 NLA?????????
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2013, 09:15:57 pm »
On one hand I want one but on the other I can just wait a little longer if I have to pay  120.00 bucks lol

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Re: HDA-164 NLA?????????
« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2013, 07:15:28 am »
I paid $30 plus a few bux shipping for an NOS HDA137 last year.  Haven't seen any more at that price since....





-Aaron

For older saws:
Tune the H side so that it 4-strokes (burbles) at WOT unloaded and just cleans up when under load.
When you lift cutting load, the saw should immediately revert to 4-stroking.  Fine tune the transition point for the wood you're cutting.

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Re: HDA-164 NLA?????????
« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2013, 12:54:54 pm »
If it were me I would just give a call to Mowers4u    Thats who I deal with for carb kits, carbs etc.   

HDA-164 $27 new listed   

Our Price: $26.94  Available: In Stock Ships: Within 48 hours

http://www.mowers4u.com/walbro-530069895-poulan-walbro-hda164-carburetor-p-1275.html?cPath=6_124
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