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Re: stihl 661
« Reply #40 on: January 01, 2015, 04:13:26 pm »
More heavy bullet options in the .45/70.  More powerful 'standard loadings' (found in 'regular stores') in .444.  The regular Winchester/Federal/Remington .45/70 loads are low pressure, so that idiots don't blow up great-grandpa's trapdoor springfield with 'em.  Specialty loads from Garrett and others more closely approach the power that you can get from a strong modern .45/70 with handloads. 

On a related note..............that was the reason for the .450 Marlin.  It was a factory round that basically matched .45/70 handloads that were appropriate for the modern lever guns........................with the added benefit (from a liability standpoint) that it could not be loaded (by morons) into old rifles that couldn't handle the pressure.  It's basically a 'legitimized' .458 American wildcat, but with a super thick belt so that morons couldn't load it into rifles chambered for long (but smaller caliber) belted magnums such as a .300 Weatherby (big boom would ensue).
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Re: stihl 661
« Reply #41 on: January 01, 2015, 04:23:46 pm »
I got a big field full of pretty nice big timber still in tree length , once I get finished pulling everything out the 661 and the 390 husky are going to be put to work for a couple long hard days of bucking up . I still got about 40,000 to 50,000 more feet to pull to this field and let the bidding wars begin on the timber
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Re: stihl 661
« Reply #42 on: January 01, 2015, 04:24:14 pm »
Factory loads to 100 yards the .444 is better. Wish I still had my .444.  Hand loads tip things in favor of the 45-70. Better bullet choice also for 45-70. Long range the 45-70 wins hands down. Some of the Sharps replicas are great shooters.

Deer season here starts in Sept. First two weeks bow only. Muzzle loader/crossbow starts 3rd week of Sept to middle of Dec. Rifle season last weekend Oct to Dec 6.

2 tags, rifle only and bow/ muzzle loader.
Had a single shot 45-70 years ago. Want another.

Use a chainsaw for 3 cords of wood per year now and my 241 will handle that. Still have 10 saws, but can never have enough guns.
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Re: stihl 661
« Reply #43 on: January 01, 2015, 04:48:35 pm »
Quote from: Eccentric on January 01, 2015, 04:13:26 pm
More heavy bullet options in the .45/70.  More powerful 'standard loadings' (found in 'regular stores') in .444.  The regular Winchester/Federal/Remington .45/70 loads are low pressure, so that idiots don't blow up great-grandpa's trapdoor springfield with 'em.  Specialty loads from Garrett and others more closely approach the power that you can get from a strong modern .45/70 with handloads. 

On a related note..............that was the reason for the .450 Marlin.  It was a factory round that basically matched .45/70 handloads that were appropriate for the modern lever guns........................with the added benefit (from a liability standpoint) that it could not be loaded (by morons) into old rifles that couldn't handle the pressure.  It's basically a 'legitimized' .458 American wildcat, but with a super thick belt so that morons couldn't load it into rifles chambered for long (but smaller caliber) belted magnums such as a .300 Weatherby (big boom would ensue).

Thank You. going to save in shooting area too.

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Re: stihl 661
« Reply #44 on: January 01, 2015, 04:50:45 pm »
Quote from: Old Iron Logging on January 01, 2015, 04:24:14 pm
Factory loads to 100 yards the .444 is better. Wish I still had my .444.  Hand loads tip things in favor of the 45-70. Better bullet choice also for 45-70. Long range the 45-70 wins hands down. Some of the Sharps replicas are great shooters.

Deer season here starts in Sept. First two weeks bow only. Muzzle loader/crossbow starts 3rd week of Sept to middle of Dec. Rifle season last weekend Oct to Dec 6.

2 tags, rifle only and bow/ muzzle loader.
Had a single shot 45-70 years ago. Want another.

Use a chainsaw for 3 cords of wood per year now and my 241 will handle that. Still have 10 saws, but can never have enough guns.

Thank you too saving info to shooting
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Re: stihl 661
« Reply #45 on: January 01, 2015, 04:51:42 pm »
Quote from: EHP on January 01, 2015, 04:23:46 pm
I got a big field full of pretty nice big timber still in tree length , once I get finished pulling everything out the 661 and the 390 husky are going to be put to work for a couple long hard days of bucking up . I still got about 40,000 to 50,000 more feet to pull to this field and let the bidding wars begin on the timber

I seen you compared the 661 stock to a 066 or 660. Want to share it here?
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Re: stihl 661
« Reply #46 on: January 01, 2015, 05:19:24 pm »
the 661 has more power than the 660 plain and simple , compared to my 066 I'm not sure on that but this 661 is not broken in yet so once that happens we will see , I would use the 661 to fall with in this bigger timber on these steep side hills but my ported 365 works so nice I donot want to use or carry the 661 for that job , maybe once ported I will change my mind but at this point I say no and run the 365
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Re: stihl 661 weight
« Reply #47 on: February 05, 2015, 01:47:26 pm »
Big Thank you to Brad   8) have been working with him in background to get 661 660 390 395 weights PHO

Stihl 661  weight PHO 
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Re: stihl 661
« Reply #48 on: February 05, 2015, 07:37:13 pm »
Nice. No heavier than a 660 but feels better balanced.
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Re: stihl 661
« Reply #49 on: February 05, 2015, 07:52:45 pm »
Quote from: Gatekeeper on February 05, 2015, 07:37:13 pm
Nice. No heavier than a 660 but feels better balanced.

Brad said the bar oil was very thick to get out, but would think no more then a ounce left in it.
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