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Offline tinkerswithengines

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Re: ms290
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2014, 01:29:29 am »
Nothing like that. Bearings say....Made in.....Got the old bearings in front of me now....Dug them out of the garbage.... Ha! Ha! Made in of all places...TURKEY.... on this rebuild with a part number of ORS 620JCJ.....HELL the numbers are poorly stamped too! Have seen India before....all of some sort of "plastic" or fiber cage on the "FARMBOSS" series saws of crank bearings?
 
Oh my goodness....Stihl....America's Favorite....that it may be??? BUT....

Stop and think about it..... Did Stihl save 2 cents on each bearing times.... 300,000 + in hopes that these would all hold up over their "limited" ONE year warranty or better yet....since January 2011.....TWO YEARS with the purchase of a six pack of their "ULTRA" 2 cycle mix....HEY! What did they make on the oil mix? Enough to cover  the warranty claims on the failures within the ....time period? This warranty only came about because of ECHO, Stihl's competitor uping their warranty.

I guess this thread has taken on other another meaning.....so I am dropping the topic from my view all because I am a "newbie" here ....Don't want to upset the "apple cart" so to speak.....however I have run saws and had my hands dirty and oiled up with 2 cycle mix since the early 70's!!!!! I guess for all purposes and intents....I should not have replied to the orginal post. I guess I am still stuck on what "Made in Virgina Beach, USA should be....Hoo-Ray for the share holders in Stihl!!!!

Someday....they like GM will also need a government "bailout"!

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Re: ms290
« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2014, 04:01:55 am »
If you want a saw for a 24" bar, look for a 1127 series saw with a scored piston/cylinder and then buy yourself the parts from Asia to make it into a 039/390. That will give you a 64cc saw in the same frame as the MS290. So for the same weight you have more power. These 1127 series saw respond really well to muffler mods. I have an 039 now with Hutzl piston/cylinder in it and cleaned up the ports a bit before assembly, modded the muffler and it cuts pretty similar to my 044. This series of saw gets lambasted a lot on the saw enthusiast internet sites but they are a reliable unit that will cut firewood for years and years and years with proper care.

Regarding the pawn shop prices, I typically sell the 029/MS290 saws around here for $225. I sold a really nice 029 Super recently for $250. The MS290 and 029 Super both have the same 54cc size engine, the regular 029 engine is slightly smaller displacement. The 039 engine is about 64cc.

If you're going to use a saw every day, then this series of saw is not as good as you can get. If you are a firewooder for your own use and are going to use the saw a day per week, it's a viable option. Buy one used, try it for a few months and make your own conclusion. Don't like it? Sell and get your money back. These saws have a good resale value because of the Stihl label.
Go back to the pawn shop with $200 in cash. Tell them if they'll let you take the saw to your vehicle if you leave that much cash on the counter, they have a deal. They may not accept but hey, won't know until you try. They probably have a lot less then that in it. (half that) but they also know what they can get out of them...
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Re: ms290
« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2014, 08:33:15 am »
Make in America and assembled with domestic and foreign parts I believe is what it says. I have seen just as many plastic cage bearing problems as I have metal cage problem. Stihl does not make the bearings for there saws, they send there spec to bearing manufacture and the bearing company does the rest. Bearings will never last a life time they take to much abuse. Bearings will last along time most of the bearing problems I have seen are from a crank seal leak. Most homeowner saws are not maintain and serviced like they should be. It's not the bearings fault that some one ran the chain to tight, something has to give and would rather see a bad bearing than a bad crank or crankcase.
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Re: ms290
« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2014, 08:36:59 am »
One more thing your opinion about things can make a difference to us all. Makes people think outside the box and sometimes that is a good thing. And other people may learn from what we talk about on here weather we agree with one another or disagree. So being a newbie has nothing to do with it.
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Re: ms290
« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2014, 12:01:27 pm »
Quote from: jmester on February 23, 2014, 08:36:59 am
One more thing your opinion about things can make a difference to us all. Makes people think outside the box and sometimes that is a good thing. And other people may learn from what we talk about on here weather we agree with one another or disagree. So being a newbie has nothing to do with it.

I like that.
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Re: ms290
« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2014, 12:06:56 pm »
Yeah, no need to worry about pissing anyone off about saying what is on your mind, just jump in.
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Re: ms290
« Reply #26 on: February 23, 2014, 12:51:39 pm »
I'm with Fish, just state your findings and opinions. No worries about upsetting any apple carts. I don't believe anyone here's last name is Stihl.
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Re: ms290
« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2014, 12:56:56 pm »
Not to change the subject but on that windowed flywheel as I take it some other saws were a beech to get timed .

Started with a 5 I think .Might be 052 .I've never encoutered one myself just curiosity getting the best of me .
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Re: ms290
« Reply #28 on: February 24, 2014, 01:39:48 pm »
If I was going to carry the weight of the 029 290 310 around, it would have to be a 64cc 390 039 in the heart IMO.

 I've worked on some of the 390 with 24" 3/8 chain and they pulled a whole lot better with simple muffler mod and carb retune.
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