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Offline Al Smith

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Re: machinist tool how to questions.....
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2014, 04:55:47 am »
This is a picture I found showing some of the slides sitting on a shelf .

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Re: machinist tool how to questions.....
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2014, 01:20:26 pm »
I originally made most of my slides .Then a tool and die maker friend of mine made me some using Aloris slides as a pattern ,those didn't fit .Problem was he made them out of heat treated 4140 steel .He had to use surface grinder to repair them but they eventually did work .

Now this guy was pretty good ,Fact he made some wedge type tool posts .So I know if it was a copy of Aloris he as dead on with the size .

I bought some slides which were not Aloris such as knurling wheel slides that did fit but they were not Aloris .

On mine you can adjust the gimbles a little bit so if the slide isn't dead on it will still work .I have no idea what brand it is .

AXA and BXA holder are really close in size (~0.040" in width of the dovetail) but not interchangeable, the CXA size is much larger than the BXA and it easily recognizable. 

looking at tool posts.  axa size.

anyone have experience with aloris clones?

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I've had good luck with Alloris/Dorian BXA or series 200 PhaseII/Import holders.  I haven't had an import one yet that hasn't fit on my old import wedge style holder or my new Dorian Super Quick Change toolpost. 

For size AXA it will be the 100 series import holders.  I too would also choose a wedge over a piston since they are much more accurate for drop in repeatability. 

I really like the quality of the import holders I've got from AllIndustrialToolSupply on ebay.  They also are the only place I've been able to find an import #1 and #2 XL holders which allow for larger tooling.  For size AXA they will allow you to use 5/8" tooling instead of 1/2".  BXA is 3/4" instead of 5/8". 

http://www.ebay.com/usr/allindustrialtoolsupply?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2754

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Re: machinist tool how to questions.....
« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2014, 08:34:14 pm »
... don't mind saving up some dough to get a quality made tool if need be.  was hoping to find a used aloris set for cheap, but either it's a bad time for me looking, or the folks who have them are happy enough not to part with them.

the latter seems to be the case.  same for the dorian, kdk (spelling?) brands.

the clones are priced very low compared to the known good brands.  thought i could spend the savings for additional tooling.  if the slides would not interchange between some of these clones, to the name brands, don't want to end up with a pile of useless-unmatched crapola.

respect the experience of all you guys.  will check out the link.  do like the idea of being able to use XL tooling, on the axa platform.  will most likely go this route.

some of the photos on the auction site remind me of the many discussions of the true origins/rebranding of chinese saw cylinders.  maybe this is the case?

al, sheesh.......200 lbs. of slides? nice!

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Re: machinist tool how to questions.....
« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2014, 12:45:37 pm »
I don't think it's really 200 pounds .However I have no doubt between high speed steel and carbide inserts I probabley have 200 pounds give or take .Several hundred if not 1000 drill bits etc . etc

The key to it all is being at the right place right time,cash money . ;D

The best deal I ever got was a pallet full of lathe chucks for 65 bucks .Sold half of them one at a time while at the auction for 300 bucks and still took half of them home .Likely 800 -1000 pounds worth .One is an 18" 4 jaw I can't even lift any more .

 

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