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Title: Re: .404 "high tooth" chisel chain
Post by: HolmenTree on January 17, 2018, 05:21:40 pm
I think around here stands  was 18" to bottom of cants.
Yep smaller wood higher stand but 20" wood like Mike Sullivan is cutting the stand has to be alot lower.
That Stihl Timbersport setup like in Mike's video sure is nice.
 White pine logs turned on a peeler lathe to exact uniform 20" diameter, then cut into 3 foot blocks for each competitor.
Block slides and locks  into that nice ring style saw horse.
Title: Re: .404 "high tooth" chisel chain
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 17, 2018, 12:42:39 pm
webster uses little straps on the 12"

https://youtu.be/hCSCpYto42w
Title: Re: .404 "high tooth" chisel chain
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 17, 2018, 12:35:37 pm
I think around here stands  was 18" to bottom of cants.
Title: Re: .404 "high tooth" chisel chain
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 17, 2018, 12:30:42 pm
Nice how to by Mike

https://youtu.be/kHlydMBZJKg
Title: Re: .404 "high tooth" chisel chain
Post by: HolmenTree on January 17, 2018, 11:50:18 am
That cargo winch strap on that log stand pic is definitely a 3 inch.
Here's two pics of my log stand with a 4 inch wide strap.
Title: Re: .404 "high tooth" chisel chain
Post by: HolmenTree on January 17, 2018, 11:12:58 am
Nice pic. That 20" log is about 4"-6" too high.
I like how they adapted the 4" webbing strap(almost looks like 3") deck winch hold down. A standard 4 ft winch bar puts a ton of tension on that strap.
Title: Re: .404 "high tooth" chisel chain
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 17, 2018, 10:30:07 am
saw racing

Title: Re: .404 "high tooth" chisel chain
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 15, 2018, 03:21:01 pm
Conner didnt go up but it did loan it.

1994 cr250r bikesaw for sale. My personal saw. Consistent running motor . Big bore, custom head , custom case and cylinder head porting done by me .
Chris Henning ran it all last year with many placements and a Canadian win on his belt . Comes with 1 404 high tooth practice chain and 1 404 high tooth series chain . 17 tooth paddle sprocket . Mikuni sbn38mm carb . Polished and tuned for c12 and c16 . It was my most reliable saw I have built . Has dynoport tuned pipe . Spare piston as well . Which I change every season regardless of if it's worn or not and all gaskets .
Title: Re: .404 "high tooth" chisel chain
Post by: HolmenTree on January 15, 2018, 02:58:38 pm
Was a guy in NY selling the bikesaw and chains pics.
I wonder if that was the guy who came up north to compete at Campbell River, B.C.
125cc?
Title: Re: .404 "high tooth" chisel chain
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 15, 2018, 01:26:04 pm
Was a guy in NY selling the bikesaw and chains pics.
Title: Re: .404 "high tooth" chisel chain
Post by: HolmenTree on January 15, 2018, 01:18:40 pm
Thanks is for sharing Kevin!
I can't compare to Bertrand's pics on page 1 because the pics are now timed out and gone.
Real hungry looking chain. I got some .050 Oregon .404 to put those cutters on.
Still one more project to stroke off my to do list
 ;)
Title: Re: .404 "high tooth" chisel chain
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 15, 2018, 11:45:27 am
404 high tooth practice chain and 1 404 high tooth series chain

Title: Re: .404 "high tooth" chisel chain
Post by: HolmenTree on September 26, 2016, 11:08:35 am
.404 high tooth = 46RST  46 RST

Per Romeo guy that raced bikesaws I knew of.

 It's chain that Stihl developed for their hotsaws. The problem is that the only way to get it was to buy a Stihl hotsaw. But some other guys have been comeing up with it. I have only seen a picture of it. It is .404 chain but the cutters are tall like 1/2 inch chain. It alegedly is supposed to cut like 1/2 inch chain (fast). I would love to get ahold of a roll or at least a loop of this stuff.

(https://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi39.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe188%2Fcaptainstupid%2Fth_open-modified-williamsBIG.jpg&hash=bdaf5d41671c17da8518a394e6a2a1dbc7639f50)


Just read Romeo's post from Magnus's site. That was written way back 10 years ago. The Comfort anti vibe cutter design was still being tested about that time.
Title: Re: .404 "high tooth" chisel chain
Post by: HolmenTree on September 25, 2016, 09:36:58 pm
I wonder if Stihl Timbersports had this chain made up in China?
Doesn't appear to have a legit Stihl logo on the cutter.
 I've seen Chinese chain before in different pitches with the blued cutter and genuine looking Oil O Matic drive links.
Title: Re: .404 "high tooth" chisel chain
Post by: HolmenTree on September 25, 2016, 09:20:49 pm
Found Bertrand's .404 high pics in below thread.
Title: Re: .404 "high tooth" chisel chain
Post by: HolmenTree on September 25, 2016, 09:17:36 pm
Bump.
Found my old thread with Bertrand's pic of the .404 high tooth.
Definitely not a Comfort chain with the old school heel.
Now I wonder if he still has some loops for sale?
Title: Re: .404 "high tooth" chisel chain
Post by: HolmenTree on September 25, 2016, 08:17:55 pm
I remember Romeo from New Mexico.

I remember Bertrand's post a while back on here. I believe he posted a pic of the high tooth cutter too.
Title: Re: .404 "high tooth" chisel chain
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 25, 2016, 12:06:37 pm
.404 high tooth = 46RST  46 RST

Per Romeo guy that raced bikesaws I knew of.

 It's chain that Stihl developed for their hotsaws. The problem is that the only way to get it was to buy a Stihl hotsaw. But some other guys have been comeing up with it. I have only seen a picture of it. It is .404 chain but the cutters are tall like 1/2 inch chain. It alegedly is supposed to cut like 1/2 inch chain (fast). I would love to get ahold of a roll or at least a loop of this stuff.

(https://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi39.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe188%2Fcaptainstupid%2Fth_open-modified-williamsBIG.jpg&hash=bdaf5d41671c17da8518a394e6a2a1dbc7639f50)

Title: Re: .404 "high tooth" chisel chain
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 25, 2016, 11:53:51 am



Does anyone own or have information on the Stihl .404 high tooth timbersport chain?
My question is did Stihl design it with the "Comfort" clearance or left it out and keep it old school for better speed performance ?




Did you try a search for the high tooth here. I remember Bertrand was selling it and he is a member here.

Quick search. Ed EHP filed some high tooth 404. Might ask him too.
Title: Re: .404 "high tooth" chisel chain
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on March 26, 2013, 01:59:49 am
I wonder if i can get it here in Europe ??? ::)
Title: Re: .404 "high tooth" chisel chain
Post by: HolmenTree on March 25, 2013, 10:31:34 pm
here is a few picture
(https://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi76.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj24%2Fbeurt007%2F562244_zps67924600.jpg&hash=1f9ca57e60c2e1fc062670c94ddddcba5f6cb772)

(https://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi76.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj24%2Fbeurt007%2F562243_zps0e58b7ca.jpg&hash=a056a8bde6fe651a95fc7797e69b8bebea2bf629)

tall tooth on the left side and regular 59 oregon on the right side for both picture
Thankyou for posting this Bertrand.
Title: Re: .404 "high tooth" chisel chain
Post by: bertrand on March 25, 2013, 03:15:57 pm
more chip clearence vs regular 404. easier acces then 1/2 inch chain. when i got my chain filed by my brother i have simply not filed the raker it it work fine for me and many other competitor.
Title: Re: .404 "high tooth" chisel chain
Post by: Cut4fun on March 25, 2013, 10:02:03 am
What is the advantage? I can see guys taking grinders to the rakers. ::)

From reading rakers are pretty darn low already even when you start taking the tooth back.

Racing bikesaws with the 1/2" getting harder to find.
Title: Re: .404 "high tooth" chisel chain
Post by: RoyM on March 25, 2013, 09:51:34 am
What is the advantage? I can see guys taking grinders to the rakers. ::)
Title: Re: .404 "high tooth" chisel chain
Post by: bertrand on March 25, 2013, 07:59:00 am
here is a few picture
(https://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi76.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj24%2Fbeurt007%2F562244_zps67924600.jpg&hash=1f9ca57e60c2e1fc062670c94ddddcba5f6cb772)

(https://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi76.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj24%2Fbeurt007%2F562243_zps0e58b7ca.jpg&hash=a056a8bde6fe651a95fc7797e69b8bebea2bf629)

tall tooth on the left side and regular 59 oregon on the right side for both picture
Title: Re: .404 "high tooth" chisel chain
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 24, 2013, 07:20:19 pm
Simon Bertrand sales it. He is here too.

I know of Ed Heard EHP and Dennis Cahoon DC trying the high tooth.

 So maybe one of those guys can show a pic or tell you more.
Title: .404 "high tooth" chisel chain
Post by: HolmenTree on March 24, 2013, 07:06:35 pm
I've been away from competiting in timbersports for some time now ,so I'm not up on the latest advancements in the sport lately.

Can anyone post a few pics and give a little information on this "high top .404 chisel sawchain?
 
I have about 30 feet left on the roll of some old Oregon 50AL .404-.050 chisel bit chain, I'm thinking about converting my bikesaw over to this chain, but I'm wandering what this "high tooth " .404 sawchain is all about.