Chainsaw Repair
Husqvarna - Stihl - Poulan - Jonsered - Dolmar chainsaws and more => Stihl => Topic started by: roostersgt on January 30, 2014, 01:48:32 pm
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I do recall seeing picture of that little saw .RB I guess had a little Husky that was piped and rattled the windows a tad bit from the tree tops much to his amusement .
It was some time ago at a GTG Gypo and Big Dave had a pair of micro pipers which got me interested in little hot rod saws .I did pipe a mini Mac which did okay considering it was a mini Mac .
Even on a muffler saw and a tiny one at that there is sill some amount of improvement that can be done which is surprising over stock configuration .Tiny little things are kind of a challange to rework the ports though unless you have fingers the size of soda straws .
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I built a piped ms200 years ago, it turned just shy of 20,000 rpm and cut quite Well!
Used it for a week or so on a few tree removals from the aerial lift till the 2nd degree burns took their toll!!
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The bumble bee sizes are neat in a way .Probabley the best is either an 020T or 200T but I've seen some Poulans they made scoot . With the exception of the two Stihls I mentioned little saws can be had cheap .
Some ingenuity and a little imagination they can be a lot of fun .A miniture cookie cutter that won't break the bank .
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Y4d1bFpnQzc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Y4d1bFpnQzc)
not bad for a 20 year old saw.
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Dude sounds like a real Barney!
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I asked that guy about his "race only" 880...I asked what coil he's running and he didn't even know what I was talking about! He said with his 10 tooth its a hot saw...so I sent him vids of a few of my 084 and 3120 hot saws...it shut him up.
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My MS 170 cuts really good for what it is with a muffler mod and adjustble carb.
http://youtu.be/wIVEhiW3s80
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NICE BUTT BILL! ;D
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The first min 1:35 seconds of this video was 40cc under all ran together. Not all the saws ran are in video. They all had semi chisel chain on them back then. Sure would have liked to had the stihl PS or PS3 back then. Then it would have been squared files too. Both would have been better then what was offered back then IMO. I ran VXL.
Thinking this cant was a very dry sycamore.
Red one woods ported redmax 3800 vxl
Grey one woods ported Ryobi redmax 400 semi chisel brand?
White one woods ported Stihl 200 rear handle semi chisel brand?
http://youtu.be/cC5P0FXJ10c
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This is a box stock early production MS180 with a well sharpened chain.. It's the best running 180 I have tried.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l47vNwZ80Kg
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We used to have a 40cc and under class at our racing gtg's. Rear handle saws and top handle 2 separate classes.
I think it may of been Al that nicknamed the top handle 40cc under class bumble bee's.
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Perhaps, designed for stock class midget racers!
**** soaked midgets!
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I wanna "Race Only" MS180 ::)
Perhaps, designed for stock class midget racers!
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I saw that too. It's just that I seriously doubt anyone can get a 170/180 to perform as those depicted in his videos with just those changes. I'm sure you've held one of those saws, or two or three. I don't trust the guy for all the reasons given. I wish a guy could get a mouse saw to perform at that level with by simply making the changes he states he makes. Hell, if that were the case, I should put 72" bar and 10 pin sprocket on my 440 and ditch any need for my bigger saws.
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I wanna "Race Only" MS180 ::)
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Here's another quote from this fool.... "We are NOT a full service saw shop, we are a specialty high performance parts and supply ONLY.
We do not supply most parts and we offer no repair services, all our saws and products should be considered race only and used at your own risk. "
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It seems to me from his videos he must be doing a bit more than putting a long bar and higher tooth sprocket on his saws. His saws don't seem to be bogging, or losing many rpm's, in the cut of some pretty big wood for a MS170/180 class saw.
Quoted right from his description.... "PILTZ Modified saws achieve high performance through (bar, chain, clutch/sprocket) mods only"
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Judging by the negative replies, I wouldn't buy from him either, but none of the complaints were about his saws performance. Seems he also sells parts like rope and sprockets, along with being a slow shipper. It seems to me from his videos he must be doing a bit more than putting a long bar and higher tooth sprocket on his saws. His saws don't seem to be bogging, or losing many rpm's, in the cut of some pretty big wood for a MS170/180 class saw. Brad's saw video looked on par with that guys' and his was reportedly ported and mm'd. I know my 170 bogs terribly in 14" wood with the supplied bar and sprocket. Can't imagine how poorly it would do with a longer bar and higher tooth sprocket without extensive mods. Could be mistaken, but I can't see how simply changing a sprocket and replacing the bar with a longer one would help performance, especially in the cut.
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Certainly a person to beware of. However, e-bay is loaded with them, they all think they are going to become Warren Buffett!
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That guy does nothing more than change sprockets(higher tooth count) and put a longer bar on the saw(over barring).........actually under powering the saw.
The guy is a joke.
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Read the negative feedback on this guy and make sure to pay attention to his responses. The guy is a total azzwhole.
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=kevlargaffs&iid=-1&de=off&items=25&which=negative&interval=365&_trkparms=negative_365
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Unreal performance from both. Much better than anything I get from mine.
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I remember Brad had ported his little stihl 180 about 5-6 years ago. Didnt have the nice PS chisel chain back then. Semi chisel in video.
http://youtu.be/MMZSkGi6CTY
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I've seen ported 170-180. They cut for what they are. Another big gain is using PS PS3 chain for another 15%-20% faster cut.
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Anyone have any clue as to what this guy has done to get a 180 to perform like in his video? Doesn't seem real to me. Sounds like one mean small saw though. I have a 170 I've put an adjustable carb on,but nothing like this guy's saw.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PILTZ-Stihl-MS180-Easy-Start-HOT-SAW-16-inch-bar-and-Chain-Perfect-CHAINSAW-/291067019838?pt=US_Chainsaws&hash=item43c4f2423e