Chainsaw Repair
Chain - Grinders - Filing - Wood Milling - Tools - Welding - Machinist - Mowers - Tillers => Chain - Bars - Grinders - Filing => Topic started by: Cut4fun . on January 19, 2015, 01:14:05 pm
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Good GB bar link and other products http://www.gbforestry.com.au/store/chainsaw-products/chainsaw-bars
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GB PART NUMBERING SYSTEM and application guide
http://coonasawchain.com.au/files/GB_Bar_Catalogue.pdf
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Dang Aaron sounds like you hit the gold mine better then me. I was just looking for more info on the GB workman pro top bar and come across so much more.
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That's a very good reference. Funny that they still list the Homelite C-series saws in their charts (and have H mount bar part #'s for them)...................but they don't show the H mount in the bar mount section. Haven't culled 'em from the list yet.
One page 78 in the "Extra Long Bars" section they do have listings for the H mount saws (with a picture of the correct H mount that was missing from the earlier bar mounts section). 50" and 60" bars with part #'s. Sweet.
Unfortunately, there aren't any bar listings for the large frame McCullochs.
There are clutch/sprocket listings for the large frame Homelites (except the 7ci saws dammit) and Macs. Also listings for old Poulans, including a rim drive clutch for the little XXV series saws (using the regular small 7-spline rims instead of the proprietary 9-spline rims that the Oregon rim drive drum for the XXV series uses). There's also a rim drive drum setup listed for my Echo CS302S. Very cool.
The cross-ref charts at the end of the catalog are great to have too.
Damn I keep finding more cool stuff in that catalog.
They have spring type stud spacers in many sizes, including those needed to put a Homelite D196 bar on a D176 Echo/Poulan/etc, those needed to put a D025 Stihl bar on a D196 mount Homelite.
They also have a broad bar nut selection.......................even listing both the large frame Homelites (3/8-16) and McCullochs (3/8-24), as well as several other older saws (and of course the current saws).
They also list many different recoil springs (including some for old saws), many different AF's for bigger garden equipment, and a cool bar mount reference poster.
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153 pages of GB bar info. Learned some stuff from it already today. http://www.gp1.ro/subz/gb/GB%20Catalogue.pdf
Bar mounts noses tips etc. :o
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I made an order with LCS as well.......it was a great experience ! The orange GB bars look sooo good on my Husky saws...that I don't even care how long they last !!!!
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Cool, Thanks for update.
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Gregg's replie over there,
Howdy,
We've cleared them out on all the common sizes of TI bars. I'm trying to convince them to make a lightweight Ti bar. Fingers crossed.
Regards
Gregg
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Done, will see if I get a answer.
http://www.arboristsite.com/community/threads/gb-stihl-bars.267188/
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Yep just ask Gregg. heck ask in open in the LCS thread IMO.
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You could probably send him a message and get an answer. He's a good guy to deal with.
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He has not been very open about LCS's plans with future inventory of GB pro an Ti stock.
Which if I knew he had a container coming with what I needed I would plan around or wait.
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I don't know if Gregg has a supplier for more of the good titanium bars yet or not. They did have a ton more than they do now.
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Seems as if they are on a close out at LCS. As they sell out they are not replaced I have noticed. I missed the 36" d009 3/8 050, then there was 36" 3/8 050 stihl left and now none of those either.
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Wonder when we will be able to get 20" and 28" GB Ti's or Pro's in 3/8 .050 stihl mounts?
I keep checking Left coast every month or so and nothing yet.
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I remember when Husky was selling relabeled GB pro tops with husqvarna brand on them too.
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I've had great luck with the GB pro tops myself.
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Bought a bunch of the small GB bars for ms200t's a few years back. Tips were blown out on all of them in a week. Orange Titanium are top shelf!! Still Aussie made as per above...
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MCW The GB Arborpro and Arbortech bars I've used do seem to wear pretty quickly and definitely not Made In Australia despite the labeling.
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MCW from Oz
As you'd know there have been a number of posts and threads here and on other forums regarding the production of GB bars and which country they've been coming from. I have been involved in a number of these posts/threads and this has been ongoing for many years.
There have been some changes in the packaging and bar labelling over the last few years that have not really made sense from a marketing point of view. For example the "Made In Australia" name is a major selling point. It is no different to seeing "Made In Germany" or "Made In The USA" on a product - you know it will be good with the odd exception.
For some reason GB changed their labelling to simply "Australia" and it could be assumed that something had changed in their manufacturing process. There was no feedback from anybody at GB and the rumour mill started. The fact that Stens in the US were no longer the GB distributor there also added fuel to the fire.
Now I am man enough to admit that in one of the threads here I had a fair crack at Gregg the other day who is now the US GB distributor. I basically said that no proof existed on GB's manufacturing in Australia and it is fair to say that even some Australian chainsaw dealers with GB accounts were unsure of what was going on at GB.
No doubt Gregg contacted GB in Australia regarding my posts and all of a sudden Michael Kennedy who is the managing director of GB in Australia has joined AS and set the record straight in "The All Aussie Dribble Thread". He has offered me a tour of the GB Australian manufacturing plant which I unfortunately can't take on at this stage (being an 8 hour drive!) and has outlined exactly what is going on there. He set me straight on a number of things and I've never been happier to be proven wrong! I use GB Pro Tops and Ti bars regularly however everything I use is old stock - they are some of the best bars on the market and I have 24" and 32" Pro Tops here with around 500 hours on them which have a lot of life left in them yet. To hear that they are still being made in Australia is awesome!
Therefore...
The GB harvester bars, the GB Ti bars, and the GB Pro Tops are STILL being made in Australia. They have NEVER been made overseas!!!
Their consumer line of bars are not and are coming from China. This isn't uncommon and basically all consumer priced bars are now coming out of Asia with Stihl being the exception (there may be others?).
The fact that somebody from GB has finally had the time to respond to AS member's questions and concerns is great. I have always stated that I'd really like to be proven wrong on GB and I finally have been :D I'd like to apologise to Gregg but would also like to thank him for prompting somebody from GB to come in and set the record straight. I've quoted some of Michael's posts below which outlines a number of points.
This was Michael's response to a question about their packaging...
Michael Kennedy said:
It's a funny question because the cover (sleeve) on the Ti and ProTops is the only part of it that was not made in Australia.
The sleeves have always been printed in China. Although the bearings are from Switzerland.
MCW Swiss bearings explains why you can't bloody kill the nose on a Pro Top!!! I don't think anybody would complain about Swiss bearings being used.
This was the response to me regarding GB's harvester bars which I'd always been told were produced in Australia...
Michael Kennedy said:
Thanks Matt, it's true in Australia here we are mainly focussed on harvester bars because that's where we can still compete. Also the extra long chainsaw bars, double ended mill bars, all Lucas Mill bars and any other specialist bars are a big part of the Aussie business. In Australia we're not too fussed about competing with the consumer range of bars because it simply isn't economical to do so. However, we do still have a good list of loyal dealers that keep the chainsaw side of it ticking along. As I explained to Gregg and as I will explain again here the cost of producing the Ti bars is quite prohibitive but if people are prepared to pay for the quality and if the margins are still there we will continue to do so. I cannot be any clearer than this - Ti & ProTop bars have never been made anywhere else but Australia.
MCW Finally this was Michael's response to a web link from a Chinese company who said they had entered into a business relationship with GB a few years ago (Tom Beerens owns GB)...
Michael Kennedy said
Qirui Tools do not and will not make GB Arbor Series bars. These bars and noses are stock left over from a failed partnership between Tom Beerens and Wang Wei Ming (owner of Qirui Tools). They set up a company and factory together to make consumer bars and for whatever reason they had a falling out. Qirui got left holding the stock and Tom has set up his own factory in China where he has lived for the past 3 years or so. Qirui has been trying to offload these bars for quite some time now.
MCW Good stuff Gregg with your new business and your customers can rest assured that if they buy a Ti bar or Pro Top it is definitely Made In Australia and that they'll be buying one of the best bars ever made with a nose sprocket that can't be killed!
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The orange GB Titanium bars are hard to beat for durability. A lot less prone to bending and twisting in my experience.
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Since buying some new GB chainsaw bars at Left Coast supplies. Thought would share info on them.
These 2 below are made in Australia
CN40 Titanium Bars http://www.gbforestry.com.au/store/chainsaw-products/chainsaw-bars/cn40-titanium-bars
Pro Top Bars http://www.gbforestry.com.au/store/chainsaw-products/chainsaw-bars/pro-top-bars
The rest of the products.
http://www.gbforestry.com.au/
Chainsaw bars. The arbor bar is made in china.
http://www.gbforestry.com.au/store/chainsaw-products/chainsaw-bars