Chainsaw Repair
Husqvarna - Stihl - Poulan - Jonsered - Dolmar chainsaws and more => Poulan => Topic started by: 3000 FPS on August 21, 2012, 06:30:26 pm
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This is a Poulan 445 I picked up about 4 months ago. I believe it is a 71.5cc engine. I removed the Muffler and it has a very nice looking piston and cylinder. It has good compression and runs very good. Just thought I would show a few pictures. I did notice that the starter has a different shade to it, but it is origninal. I put a 24" bar and chain on it because I will probably never need anything larger for what I cut. The saw is stock and I have not made any modificatons to it yet. The muffler is kind of funky looking and I may do something with it for now.
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Good looking saw. 70.7cc I believe. 50mm bore x 36mm stroke.
Does the 445 have the air injection system?
Which air filter set up does it have?
Magnus has the Partner 710 which I think is it's sister saw.
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poulan 445 IPL http://weborder.husqvarna.com/order_static/doc/NIUS/NIUS1997/NIUS1997_530083227.pdf shows air injection.
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Yes it has the air injection but, a picture is worth a thousand words.
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Yep the 330 3450 3750 felt filter will work for you too.
Thanks for posting.
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Alright good to know since I have some of those you mentioned.
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Found another used PP445 like new (so they say) with a new price to go with it. :o
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Wow you found another one. I was beginning to think they were rare or something.
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Wow you found another one. I was beginning to think they were rare or something.
Don't be fooled the 445 is very rare.
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Found another used PP445 like new (so they say) with a new price to go with it. :o
I was noticing that the starter cover is off in the shade of yellow just like the one I have. Must have been something in the plastic with those that did not match up with the painted areas.
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Found some info dated 2005 on 445.
poulan pro 445 4.3 cubic inch. I got it with a 24" bar, and It handles that real well. Now I have a 20" on it, and boy can you cut the wood with it and no it isn't a pole saw, and they are discontinued. I got mine about 8 years ago brand new, and It still looks almost new and I use it a lot. Darn good saw, wish they still made em. Got it new on ebay for about 425 dollars.
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I was noticing that the starter cover is off in the shade of yellow just like the one I have. Must have been something in the plastic with those that did not match up with the painted areas.
Seems 505's was like that too.
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Found another 445 in parts. So far I was able to buy a air filter cover from it for green jeans.
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Good looking saw. 70.7cc I believe. 50mm bore x 36mm stroke.
Does the 445 have the air injection system?
Which air filter set up does it have?
Magnus has the Partner 710 which I think is it's sister saw.
The 710 surely is the "sister saw", and they both have the air injection. The ones that didn't was the PP415 (and possibly early P660s), the PP475, and early P7700s and 2077s.
When I say "didn't have", that actually isn't 100% true, as they had "induction through the fan", but a pre-filter instead of the "duct" of the fully developed version.
Btw, the first saw that I have evidence had the fully developed air injection was the 262xp, mid 1989. The P7700 series saws didn't get it before 1992 (or late 1991).
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Roger have you ever had the topend off your 445? Reason I ask I was going to buy a 445 top and the guy confirmed for me it is a quad port top like the 415 425 except that 445 is 50mm. The piston is solid type with quad port closed transfers.
I think I will be putting a 372 piston in mine. ;) Bought a one nasty looking PARTIAL parts saw. But the parts I have left from the #3 505 and 425 should button it up if it is as describe.
Might end up needing your expertise on this one if I dont have to split it. Otherwise I'll just learn to like Ugly Betty. :D
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No I never really looked at the cylinder on my 445. I took the muffler off of it when I first got it and checked it to make sure there was no scoring but that was about it. The saw was in pretty good shape when I got it and it ran fine. I can always look at something on it and take some pics if you need.
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Here is what the parts saw 445 looked like on feebay. :o
Here is what he said about it and gives me some hopes of making a builder from it.
(((primed carburator with fuel ,pulled and it fired right up and ran for a few seconds, is missing handle bar ,air cleaner assembly, clutch cover and has as hole in side cover by starter(see pictures), saw did sound strong when started and feels like tight compression,says made in sweden,being sold for parts or repair,no bar and chain.saw should be checked out by a proffesional before use..most of the saws i sell are not saws that i owned , or worked on ,i buy them at auctions, or find them just cleaning out an old barns and repair shops ,so sometimes i dont have all the answers as far as what's all wrong with them ,but i check them out as best i can)))
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I watched that saw when it was on auction at ebay. Good to see you got it and looks like it could be a running saw.
Pretty good size hole in the oil tank area.
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I have 2 case halves for that side. But if I can get it to run and bearings and seals check out, I dont want to split it.
I might try a redneck patch or ?? or just leave it being it is just a hollow area that only covers that side of muffler.
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Ok so the hole does not get into the oil tank at all. That is good.
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PP445 arrived today. Lucky too. Another very poor packing job. Front was hanging out of the filmiest dang box on the planet. Looks like the dawg took the brunt of it, think I can straighten that out easily.
Just hope the case is good in front when I get time for a look see.
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Sounds like Federal Express did their best to finish it off but failed in their job?
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Sounds like Federal Express did their best to finish it off but failed in their job?
USPS. The box was just really poor quality cardboard for shipping a saw in. JMO.
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I was charging all 4 rider mower batteries and stopped to pull the fuel cap on 445 :o. PeeU stank of stale rank gas still in there.
Got the other shell that Roger sent me for the green 505 painted while I was out there too. Made 2 mistakes, but hey I dont care. It's a chainsaw. :D
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I was charging all 4 rider mower batteries and stopped to pull the fuel cap on 445 :o. PeeU stank of stale rank gas still in there.
Got the other shell that Roger sent me for the green 505 painted while I was out there too. Made 2 mistakes, but hey I dont care. It's a chainsaw. :D
You crack me up sometimes.
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Being spring time this 445 project is on the back burner :-X :-\ :'(. I need to get mowers gone through and start cutting. Least my wife tells me so. ;D
Going to shoot for June 8th gtg to have it checked out and up an running for now.
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I had to know after doing 2 riders and the 505 green jeans recoil.
I see what happened to the 445 broken case side now. That is where the boss for the handbrake is on left side. The right side handle is even broke off almost flush where the metal lever sticks out too.
Topend looks like new. Has a different looking green coil I have never seen on the others. ???
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Partner550/445pp002_zps3b540fd6.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/Partner550/445pp002_zps3b540fd6.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Partner550/445pp001_zps85a807a3.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/Partner550/445pp001_zps85a807a3.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Partner550/445pp004_zpsc8ecf8c4.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/Partner550/445pp004_zpsc8ecf8c4.jpg.html)
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Yeah for a cold rainy day. Got me out of lawn duty. ;D
Everything checked out on 445, so went ahead and put together with the other parts. She runs. Could have made some test cuts, but didnt.
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I thought I would post a pic of where the chain brake attaches and also of the coil. You got me curious.
(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1125.0;attach=2985;image)
(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1125.0;attach=2987;image)
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I looked at it closer (coil). I think it was just so clean and new it hasnt changed colors yet. Real translucent like green.
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Roger do you think that area could be welded without splitting. Then the brake handle boss part built up?
I'm thinking of just rednecking it, but would like your opinion on welding.
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It can be welded but, I think that it should have the case split to do it. To many things that can contaminate the engine if you do not split it. Plus I do not know what the intensive heat would do to any rubber pieces left on the saw and the cylinder would also be in the way. It is a pain but I would like it split before doing anything to it myself.
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and also of the coil. You got me curious.
Made some cuts after removing the broken part of hand brake and installing another brake handle I had on hand.
I messed with the tune being it had a green coil that are suppose to be rev-limited. I started at 10k and went up to a still fat 12.2k to where she would clear up in the cut. Weird thing some of the other green coils 475 were rev-limited it seemed around 10k. Cant remember on 505 green ones.
Anyhow this green coil shows no signs of being rev-limited. I will take it around 14k later to see for sure. ;)
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(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/415/pp445done001_zps41fc3b22.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/415/pp445done001_zps41fc3b22.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/415/pp445done002_zps98ddd654.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/415/pp445done002_zps98ddd654.jpg.html)
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Did you do a compression test on it, I am curious as to what it is. Sounds like you got good running saw.
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When pulling over it had that pop pop pop so I didnt check psi. Plus the oem piston looked new with not much use so I left it instead of the switch I had in mind.
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Nice catch, you will find a way to make i nice ;)
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I made a 445 decal for the clutch cover the other day from a torn 505 sticker. What a pita. Mine look know where near nice and sharp as the wives.
I removed the 50 and put 44 and fixed all the missing areas. Wife said she could make it like new with a few more hours on it. But I told here nah good enough for this redneck. ;)
Gives me even more appreciation for what she does for me on those green decals.
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Guy has 3. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Poulan-pro-445-starter-recoil-/230974487167?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35c726fa7f
Shep
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Applied decal to cover that I tried to make on my own and looks to go with cover (well worn look) ;) :D.
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/415/purple004_zpsdcf15a96.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/415/purple004_zpsdcf15a96.jpg.html)
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Looks like a winner. Have you had a chance yet to cut any wood with it?
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Looks like a winner. Have you had a chance yet to cut any wood with it?
Just test cuts on Apr 25th. Never had time to get back to it to see how much further the green coil will let me go. She was still fat at 12.2k and not showing any signs of rev limited.
Maybe further up like 13.5k. Will update when I find out.
Made some cuts after removing the broken part of hand brake and installing another brake handle I had on hand.
I messed with the tune being it had a green coil that are suppose to be rev-limited. I started at 10k and went up to a still fat 12.2k to where she would clear up in the cut. Weird thing some of the other green coils 475 were rev-limited it seemed around 10k. Cant remember on 505 green ones.
Anyhow this green coil shows no signs of being rev-limited. I will take it around 14k later to see for sure. ;)
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Just comparing some PHO wights empty of saws 71cc-79cc
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Few more.
Marks info on 7900 with heated handles. Here is a 7900 heated handle saw fresh out of the box. Brand spanking new, no dirt!
My scale is reading 14.9 lbs and non heated handle is 14 lbs 10.2 OZ which coverts to 14.64 lbs.
PP 305 thrown in just to save info.
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Just comparing some PHO wights empty of saws 71cc-79cc
Why the two different weights on the MS 460 magnum.
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Just comparing some PHO wights empty of saws 71cc-79cc
Why the two different weights on the MS 460 magnum.
Thats why I showed both. I have no clue. 2 different people weighing 2 different but same model saws on 2 different scales. ???
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Before
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/415/445_zps3b3f5e50.jpg)
Step 1 of my redneck fix started today.
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Partner550/445rednecked001_zps32a70585.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/Partner550/445rednecked001_zps32a70585.jpg.html)
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I will be interested in seeing how the chain brake connects back up. Looking good so far.
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I will be interested in seeing how the chain brake connects back up. Looking good so far.
I have a idea of what I want to do and even ready to do the threads. I'm just unsure if that part step2 would actually hold on to step1. :-\
Could just leave it and touch up paint being many saws just used one side for brake handles. Heck I very seldom use brake unless I uh-oh'ed up. :o
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How about a small aluminium spacer to fit between the handle and the repair area with a bolt all the way through.
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That would work. If the repaired area would hold. Repaired area is as thin as the original metal area. I was using my fingers to form to keep it thin.
I'll look at it when set up.
But it seems to have a angle to it there also.
(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1125.0;attach=2985;image)
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/poulan-pro-455-clutch-spocket-cover-chainsaw-chain-saw-/161025751867?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item257de1fb3b
Shep
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Nice cover for a 455 but I am afraid it will not work on a 445.
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While Jim was over visiting and just bs'ing about chainsaws alittle. I thought why not and rednecked the 445 step 2 and step 3 today.
I made the sleeve out of plastic from a pcv valve and had a washer that fit onto the sleeve like oem.
Will it hold I doubt it but you know my saying. ;) ;D
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It looked pretty good
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Kevin can u show a pic of his 4 port jug
Please
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While Jim was over visiting and just bs'ing about chainsaws alittle. I thought why not and rednecked the 445 step 2 and step 3 today.
I made the sleeve out of plastic from a pcv valve and had a washer that fit onto the sleeve like oem.
Will it hold I doubt it but you know my saying. ;) ;D
I would say if you do not get to agressive, it should work ok. After all, it is only a chain brake.
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Kevin can u show a pic of his 4 port jug
Please
This is the 65cc one. The 70.7cc on 445 should be the same just 2mm more bore.
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/415/PP425002.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/415/PP425002.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/415/PP425003.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/415/PP425003.jpg.html)
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wow is that interesting! looks familiar
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wow is that interesting! looks familiar
Yep lot of the work is already done for ya from oem. ;D Gilardoni made cylinders. I wish the 77cc and 83cc were like this.
Only thing David is you want to use other pistons if you go wild. Like husky 365 48mm and 372 50mm or even go with windowed ones like on 52mm 54mm but in smaller bores. ;)
I'm not into that anymore so I just go with the husky 365 372 pistons when needed.
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That was a nice looking Gilardoni the other day when I was looking at it.
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It could have been grinded smooth to look better. Butttttt ;)
Now to see if it will hold up to vibrations of cutting next. :-X :-\ ???
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It could have been grinded smooth to look better. Butttttt ;)
Now to see if it will hold up to vibrations of cutting next. :-X :-\ ???
Butttttt it's just a chain saw.
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Made several test cuts. ;D
Kept adjusting carb and this green coil shows NO SIGNS of being REV-LIMITED at all in 445. Stopped it around 13.6K.
I know that 475 and 505 green coils were horribly low rev-limited.
Bad news the threads didnt hold and the bolt pulled back out. The repaired area still intact and holding though.
I would like to compare this 445 to the stock not muffler modded 50mm 372 70.7cc I rebuilt not long ago. They seem equally strong from my memory. hint hint for someday. ;)
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372 l like that.
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I had strengthened the area while building up the area for brake handle, so. I'm going to wait a bit but thinking of doing your idea next Roger.
Drill on through and use longer bolt with nut - washer on inside.
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372 l like that.
Never ran a stock 044 or 440, but would have to say I have ran a 441 and this 445 would eat the stock 441 I ran. I say it's on par with the stronger 372's all the way.
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Roger your going to like this. Collector from TX sent me this 445 brochure.
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Drilled all the way through this time. But didnt have a bolt long enough to put washer and nut on back side though. See what happens.
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Partner550/redneckfixes002_zps34056c4d.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/Partner550/redneckfixes002_zps34056c4d.jpg.html)
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Little black and tan while trying to redneck.
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Partner550/redneckfixes001_zpseb48519d.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/Partner550/redneckfixes001_zpseb48519d.jpg.html)
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That brochure was very nice. Thanks for passing that one on.
I think the patch job will be stronger for the chain brake now with a bolt all the way through.
I have never ran a 372 but have only heard how well they run. So I am glad to hear that you think that the 445 is just as good.
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Find out anything Roger?
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Find out anything Roger?
No not yet. I have ordered some new seals for it and will probably put them in when they get here. It has been raining here for about a one straight week and I am waiting also for a break in the weather. You have seen on the news about Boulder Colorado, well about 40 to 50 miles north of there.
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You ever test your 445 to 475 505 yet.
I ran my completely stock 445 71cc , muffler stock with screen in it etc with 20" and my muffler modded 505 83cc with ports cleaned up and bumped psi with little tighter squish with 066 piston at the gtg with 24". 445 is my favorite.
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That would be an interesting test I could conduct. I have not tried that yet but I sure could.
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The 505 was stronger as it should be 12cc bigger , muffler modded and other stuff. Just the 445 is so quite to run and surprising in the cut.
Liked to seen the 475 505 quad transfers too. ;D
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Roger could you get me a nice close up pic of your 445 clutch cover decal and email it to me.
I was thinking of making a better one then the one I made from a pic of a torn up 505 decal I repaired on pic software and added 44 and removed the 50.
Threw the outside dawg on the plastic yellow cover today.
Poulan 445 - Poulan Pro 445 - PP445 - PP 445
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Ok no problem.
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Wonder if anyone from here got lucky and got that poulan 445 last night?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Poulan-445-Pro-Chainsaw-DuraChrome-Made-Sweden-1997-Nice-but-low-compression-/301561354179?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item46367517c3
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Not I. I never saw it.
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Not I. I never saw it.
I put the 1st bid but not really wanting it though, just in case it snuck by bid. Has 60 psi but was hoping it was a stuck ring and not straight gassed like they were told when they bought in group of saws.
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I don't know 160 bucks for a saw with 60 psi. I would say more likely scored piston then stuck ring, and good luck finding another piston and cylinder if it cannot be cleaned up. Beware if this saw shows up for sale again.
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I wasnt worried about piston. Only the cylinder.
372 OEM or Meteor from husky I will use when I ever have to tear my other one down. ;) Should be drop in and better then stock poulan oem piston.
I count total cost = add shipping so it was $210 in my eyes for a parts saw.
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Beware if this saw shows up for sale again.
That was something I noticed. I put my bid in over a hour from end. It wasnt 20-30 mins later someone bid after me way before the end. I was thinking that too. Someone trying to get someone to rebid. LOL
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Found another one and just paid for it. Uglier then the last and even more busted up. Says it has a good p+c. All I wanted was the 70.7cc quad port cylinder from it. ;D
Will post some pics I received. Dont laugh now.
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Per owner of PP445. = I'll give it a good cleaning and see what I have. The piston and cylinder looked pretty good through the exhaust.
Whole saw is covered in grease oil and dirt. I washed the saw off and gave it a shot of mix and it fired but quits. Thing has a ton of compression but is not in the greatest shape, it has a missing piece on the case above the oil fill point and a bunch of fins missing on the recoil, the chain brake is intact.
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With those chain tooth marks on the brake lever, it looks like it was in a chainsaw fight?
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Looks like it is all there. Except for the case being broken looks like you did ok. Interested now to see how it runs.
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Looks like it is all there. Except for the case being broken looks like you did ok. Interested now to see how it runs.
Got home opened the box today and tried to pull over, no go. So I tore into it.
Saw pulled over and started on prime? It is locked up at the crank and big end bearing is out. Crank no good.
Ring was stuck on piston and wrist pin LOL but I was able to get the everything off to save that part. Got the ring off and wrist pin out.
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/415/pp445x2%20010_zpstol0pcxz.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/415/pp445x2%20010_zpstol0pcxz.jpg.html)
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Biggest surprise was the poulan METAL YELLOW clutch cover.
So they are out there to my surprise. sweeeeeeeet ;D
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/415/pp445x2%20004_zpsi0i6eaeg.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/415/pp445x2%20004_zpsi0i6eaeg.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/415/pp445x2%20006_zpshpej6ryx.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/415/pp445x2%20006_zpshpej6ryx.jpg.html)
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Tim aka fossil ran Roger's aka 3000fps. Sounds like he was impressed with the poulan pro 445 70.7cc too.
fossil = Roger's Poulan 445 blew my socks off. The most powerful 70cc I've seen and bone stock to boot.
Now all you folks just step the heck back now and forget all about this. ;) ;D :D
I did see a poulan 445 sell on a BIN for $170 in Indiana end of June and $20 shipping. Under $200. :o
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Tim running Rogers 70.7cc poulan 445
https://youtu.be/jM_gRZJumP0
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I was pretty happy with the 445 myself. I am used to running it at 6000 ft above sea level and getting it down to sea level was a big difference. Heck I still have the spark arrestor in the muffler. That was also the first time I had a chance to run it in red oak. Some hard tough wood. All my saws ran pretty good that day.
Would not mind finding another one of those 445.
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Glad you had a good time
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I wonder if one of those would port like a 372? It would turn a lot of heads at gtg or races.
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I wonder if one of those would port like a 372? It would turn a lot of heads at gtg or races.
I would bet yes and has oem bigger carb to start.
Just not many cylinder to play with and mess up with trial and error. They were only on the Partner 710 and Poulan 445.
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Yeah that would be the problem. I'd like to see the timing numbers of the cylinder as is.
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The Partner/Poulans of cut4fun's that I ran were all super good saws as they were.
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Mike I should have a 3rd pp445 p+c with crankcase parts saw coming soon.
Looking at the piston above it sure reminds me of the 371 or 372 pre epa 1 ring piston. Betting it might be. Being they were built in the husqvarna plant.
The cranks look just like a 371 crankshaft with coarse threads. Lot of 2 series parts used on them too.
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I'd like to see how close to a 372 the jug is. Might be a better version
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They don't look alike on the fins? You can tell which is which from a distance?
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65cc and 71cc are Gilardoni cylinders too, with way different bases then I am used to seeing.
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The fins are different and the base is shaped a hit different. I wonder about timing numbers and compression on them.
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@3000 FPS Roger have you checked yours to answer Mike? I never have.
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No I have never done any work on the one I have except to open the muffler some. I still have the spark arrestor in it.
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I never even checked psi, have you? Mine pulls over strong.
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The 372 is around 150 on the stock ones with a gasket.
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I never even checked psi, have you? Mine pulls over strong.
No I have never checked compression. I just like the way it runs so I did not mess with it.
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#3 should ship this evening. Pics I received. There was 2 475 and 1 445 and bunch of extra parts in a package deal. I just wanted the 445 so ask for just those parts.
There was a 505 clutch cover Roger and I thought of you. But looking at pics it looked good but **** worse then the one you had before.
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Looks like your getting a good collection of parts there.
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Looks like your getting a good collection of parts there.
Not my pics. The 475's etc are still FS. I just got the 445 stuff.
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Looks like your getting a good collection of parts there.
Not my pics. The 475's etc are still FS. I just got the 445 stuff.
Boxed arrived. Need to go open and see if I got a good crankshaft in the case. Was told it was after explained how to check the big end bearing.
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SOG another one with wiped big end rod bearing.
I could see where a circlip or bearing looked liked it had passed a transfer on one side in cylinder. So I flushed the crankcase area with mix for a look see. Yep up down movement big time on big end. Piston shows a bearing or 2 passing too. Both circlips were still in piston.
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425 445 505 crank assembly with updated pto bearing seal set. 506088603 CRANKSHAFT AS USD 116.85 This product is not available in the requested quantity. 1 of the items will be backordered.
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That is to bad. Is there anything salvageable?
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That is to bad. Is there anything salvageable?
Everything you can see in pic look usable. Except for Crank and P are trash.
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Piston is why I am trying to get specs for the titan 70 p. Otherwise I will use this.
1 ring meteor 371 http://northwoodsaw.com/store/index.php?l=product_detail&p=37
Other up to date pic.
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That's a old image of a Meteor for the design is different now around the wrist pin clips and they now have plain end C Clips.
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That's a old image of a Meteor for the design is different now around the wrist pin clips and they now have plain end C Clips.
Wasnt talking about the pic, right in ad (Note: Picture doesn't represent actual part, this piston has 1 ring.) Just the piston. Thanks for explaining to others.
updated pic so not to confuse
(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1125.0;attach=14498;image)
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In the last few years I've bought at least a half dozen pistons from the guy in Greece, the one in Israel, and HLS parts, including three 371 single ring versions and they all had been up graded to the plain end circlip system with notches for clip removal at 4:00.
like in this picture already posted . . .
(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1125.0;attach=14498;image)
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Pulled the piston so I could look at the big rod bearing. Cage is disintegrated.
Also inside what might be oem piston. Mahle
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Pretty much what you suspected.
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Yep least I am collecting some good crankcase halves for all those busted and redneck cases if needed down the road.
Now I got 2 spare 445 70.7cc cylinder too and a pretty dang good 445 decal clutch cover.
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@acornhill got me some pics of his friends poulan pro 445. 8)
Just trying to keep all the pics and info we can get on them around.
If I remember right he was saying the 70.7cc was trying to keep up of the 85cc poulan 5200 when they were out cutting.
If it was nipping at that saws heels thats very impressive IMO. Those are strong saws from the few I have ran.
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We're the yellow fuel tanks on any of the 415-445 saws? Would like to build a yellow 1. Kevin have any excess to move? Lol
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They were on the 415 475 saws. Be careful 2 different tanks. If you get wrong one you will need to mod for air filter set ups.
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Helping a guy with a customers poulan pro 445. NLA parts needed and I have them. :P
Guess I am going to help them out with a 415 they are fixing to sell too.
Pic of PP445 so I could add it to the thread.
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The 445 had a torn intake boot. So I sent the dealer a NOS boot.
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DD Dave told me a week or 2 ago he found some PP445's and was selling or trading them local. Also stated some had the metal covers.
Looks like one has turned up now in a locals hands.
pic
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Well now that is pretty cool. So now we know that metal covers came on some of the 445's from the factory.
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Well now that is pretty cool. So now we know that metal covers came on some of the 445's from the factory.
1 of my 3 came with the metal clutch cover too.
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Saving apic of another poulan pro 445. This one from KY. Guy was looking for a complete recoil set up after busting his up.
Told him I could help him out or just buy this complete NOS starter I knew about for $70 shipped.
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Owner of the 445 said one of the helpers dropped a hay bale on the saw.
Bad pic but get the idea.
He had to make a homemade clutch cover using a husky cover too. His 445 came with a plastic cover.
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Happy camper. Poulan 445 with 475 recoil and clutch cover I sent him. Back to cuttin.
Owner Said = Started second pull and been months since it has been down.
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Saving a chainsaw repair group members poulan 445 here in thread.
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Was pulling clutch covers out for a few folks and came across a super nice poulan 445 cover. Totally forgot about having it. :P
Plus pics of a few parts I sold folks in need.
poulan 425 445 505 ipl http://www.klippo.com/ddoc/POUI/POUI1997_USen/POUI1997_USen__530083227.pdf
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Saving a conversation in FBG
Talking about 475 at first.
Bob Morrison. Because the thing melted pistons and cylinders without it. I was involved in the development of that saw.
me. No problems here unlimited. The pto side bearing and seal seem to be the weak link IMO. If you notice they went to updated ones in 505 445 425
Bob Morrison The 445 was the best of the bunch.
me 445 even though a green coil is unlimited too. Love that saw. best in series IMO.
Bob Morrison The original-style air filter on the 415 and 475 didn't work. Took me about two years to convince the Swedes of that.
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Trying to bring in another 445 for the parts. Says cylinder is nice. But crank bearings feel rough.
Has a 505 recoil cover on it. No clutch cover. No clutch. Just the clutch inner hub still on crank.
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Received the confirmed tracking # today. Poulan pro 445 #4 heading my way.
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Very Cool.
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Just mainly wanting that cylinder 70.7cc quad port. Anything else good is just icing.
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PP445 70.7cc ad link that is in this thread. But I cant get the download to post on CRG FB. So I printed it out and took pics the old fashion way.
My favorite of the series with its quad port cylinder design. 1996 Hope you guys that want the info can read it. I have sent the original link to those that wanted it in email.
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Poulan 445 arrived yesterday. Cylinder and piston look like new. Witness marks on piston unreal new looking too.
Was sad to see one side of the plastic winged worm gear broken off though. But no biggie.
Got a guy wanting to buy the 505 decal recoil cover for his 505 project. I may cut it loose.
Pic I forgot to post when looking at it.
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PP445 and PP415 projects plus some parts packing up to ship out.
Showing the difference n the recoil covers yellows.
PP505 cover selling a guy I know for his 505 project saw.
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Put the min together on PP445 #4 and she now is a runner. Sounds good.
Now to get all the missing pieces and put it together completely.
Did have a bad used ngk plug on bench I had to toss. It would just shut off like you flicked a switch off. Put another in it and ran fine idling etc forever. When I get her done a new Brazil or German bosch will go in.
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This 445 I think I may try a metal worm gear in to test and see if we can backwards engineer them from the plastic worm gear. I have it ready to try someday.
UPDATE: It will work if needed. 8) http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/poulan/poulan-415-425-445-475-505-jonsered-2077-2083-2083ii-partner-660-710-7700-worm-g/
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#4 445 runs. 1 and 4 runners, 2 and 3 bad big end crank bearings.
Cool with me all I want is those 71cc quad port cylinders.
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Found another ugly as sin possible 445. Recoil has 445 on it. But black tag MIA. So could be a 425 too. No decomp so not 505.
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He wants 117 shipped. He says cylinder looks clean inside. Said he has it listed on ebay too. So look there if not on FB.
Looks like metal clutch cover too. Least from looking at these pics, maybe.
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445 let me know it was time for a carb kit today.
I'd be a liar if I didnt say this 441c m-tronic didnt impress me today.
15" to 15.5" dry ash cuts and then 20" buried in dry ash by both saws. Both 70.7cc for testing. The 441 to make sure ready to go back to owner. Was taking 20 pulls to start when came in.
The reg carb 441 when first came out didnt impress me back years ago. But that was also when I ran all ported saws.
I ran my 445 which I could tell wasnt right when started and giving throttle. Time for carb kit. But no excuse it still didnt feel as good in the cuts IMHO. This is the same 445 that out cut a opened dp muffler 440 and 372 OE back in the day when all ran same chains. Is what it is. I was impressed with the stock 441C today.
Think he is really going to like the new bar set up.
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Yes the 445 wasnt running right at all, was just lacking in cut and not taking throttle. I think the 415 I was testing a few weeks ago with 24" buried would have out cut it too.
But like I said the 441c impressed me for stock.
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This was the 445 I was wanting to test yesterday but didnt finish it till today. No carb issues with this one. ;)
#4 of my 445's but only 2 runners.
Just finished and test cutting with 20" buried in big dry ash log and now 16" and bigger on the other dry ash log. All day with that 441c or better. Would need a stop watch to tell. But dont care about that anymore and neither does the wood.
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Found another full wrap handle. 8)
Now to decide if I want to put it on one of the 445 saws.
Also have a guy with a 505 that wants the full wrap for his 1 owner 505.
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I was pretty happy with the 445 myself. I am used to running it at 6000 ft above sea level and getting it down to sea level was a big difference. Heck I still have the spark arrestor in the muffler. That was also the first time I had a chance to run it in red oak. Some hard tough wood. All my saws ran pretty good that day.
Would not mind finding another one of those 445.
Roger what was the bar length in Tim's video? @3000 FPS
https://youtu.be/jM_gRZJumP0
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I believe that bar was a 28" on there at the time.
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The project 445 70.7cc I used to test the 3 styles of worm gears in worked. Metal and Plastic worm gears from the early and later series.
Being that is over I made the 445 up my way today. Put the original style plastic worm gear in it and installed the other full wrap I bought. Put on a 24" 3/8 84dl oem bar that came on my first 415. Me like after test cutting. If you notice it dont have on the west coast big dawgs that are needed for a full wrap. The 415 fire dept saw had full wrap and smooth inner dawg for its uses. So I wanted this one set up like that.
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Someone wanting to buy this last 445 I put the full wrap on. But they want it with half wrap like this.
I sell any saw, but afraid to price it to him. Last saw I priced to him he bought it. =415
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I just priced it to a guy PHO set up like this. I figure I cant keep them all. I have 2 runners and this is nicest one with nicest 445 recoil and clutch covers. Have 4 445 cylinders so I could build 2 more still.
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Gave them 24hrs to make me regret pricing it. Told them last night I'll better keep this one.
Even though the carb version stihl 462 is 2lbs lighter PHO it still cost $1050 shipped.
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After searching for parts for the air injection and muffler gasket for a member here and building 445 #2.
I realized my 8-9 bins full of parts was all disorganized.
Last night I set everything out on floor and put the parts in bins as parts groups.
I also noticed I was getting low on some parts after I been selling alot off for folks to get their saws going again. So slowing down on what I will sell in this series. Still plenty of parts just some stuff I wont sell till I quit running this series. With that said parts pulled to make #3 PP445 in all yellow were pulled out. Yellow updated tank with updated air filter set up and yellow cassette for chain brake.
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Finished up other folks saws and still felt like working. So rebuilt the carb on my #1 PP445 71cc 50mm that didnt run so good awhile back when compared to the 441.
Also tried to show the walbro tool for setting heights. Also have a zama one. Their cheap, quick and handy.
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Going to use a 50mm meteor piston in my #3 PP445 build. Going the save the worst cylinder and used oem piston set for #4.
Piston etc was from Sawagain $28 and some other parts I picked up from Dave at CCC
http://www.sawagain.com/
http://chainsawcc.com/
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Roger if you ever need a 50mm piston for yours. Sawagain $28 before shipping
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Good to know thanks.
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Just finished stumping and buck up a 22" with one of my 71cc poulans with 24". I smiled and said nope dont need no 572 or 462 yet. ;D
Where I leveled it off about 26"
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I have an old poulan pro 445... it’s in great shape and is a work horse! I need a replacement clutch cover though and can’t find one anywhere. Does anyone have any suggestions on where to look? I know I’m limited because of the age of the chainsaw, but I really don’t want to buy a new one and don’t feel comfortable using it without the cover so I’m kinda stuck
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[attachimg=1]Picture of the part I’m missing
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Great saw. Can make one from the husqvarna ones too. 268 272 66 61 etc. think from 372 371 365 too.
Search the poulan 475 445 505 415 threads here too, some shown
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Just saving pics of 2 PP445 a guy is selling in the chainsaw groups FB. update all SOLD
3 Poulan Pro Chainsaws
* 445 runs good in very nice shape has 151 psi compression $375
* 415 runs good very nice shape has 158 psi compression $375
* 445 runs good in very nice shape has 150 psi compression $375
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Do not see those for sale that often.
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Guys Poulan pro 445 and 475 posted on the CRG today.
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Those saws look to be in really nice shape.
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The PP445 is super fat still. Around 11k out of the cut. The 2 445 are set right around 2k more out of the cut. For being fat and first tank. I was super happy how they compared in the ash test log. 20” buried.
I feel I don’t have to worry about the no longer available parts I been saving back for my saws. One 445 I ran 24” to finish off the log.
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Poulan 445 71cc quad port back to half wrap. Probably the one I will sell first. Being it has right clutch and recoil covers etc.
Also have 2 pulled 445 cylinder and another runner. If somone looking for 445 cylinders.
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Going to list it below in for sale board.
This just might be the next one to go. Poulan 445 71cc 50mm quad port. I put it back to half wrap yesterday. IMHO best of the series. Seems the hardest to find and get info on. I have 4 of them. 2 runners, 2 with bad cranks I use for parts. 4 cylinders though. 2 on saws.
Poulan ad and spec info
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Going to list it below in for sale board.
This just might be the next one to go. Poulan 445 71cc 50mm quad port. I put it back to half wrap yesterday. IMHO best of the series. Seems the hardest to find and get info on. I have 4 of them. 2 runners, 2 with bad cranks I use for parts. 4 cylinders though. 2 on saws.
Poulan ad and spec info
PENDING waiting on M.O.
I guess this facetime stuff does have it's uses on phones. Tore into 445 for inspection to show new owner a collector wanting this saw last night.
Will snap some pics in a bit. Amazed how strong the witness lines were on the piston. All looked new in there.
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Bunch of pics.
Pic before during and testing. Found oem nos deflector for clutch cover too. Then found rivet for it. Weird they used that. Also threw in a extra mesh filter for new owner with those other 2 too.
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Cleaning some as putting back together.
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#3 445 cylinder on and running.
71cc on left will be going on poulan for redo. With new piston and caber ring.
The other 445 cylinder on right usable too but you can see where a circlip came loose and went almost to top on one side.
2 ring oem nos piston that was only in saw for less then a tank. 54mm
Come back from lunch and see if she fires off. PP445 with yellow updated tank and air filter set up. Done before the air injection 505 425 445 but after the 475.
1st cut 20” buried. Wouldn’t you know it. Hit something in wood. 🤦♂️
Moved over some after touching chain back up.
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Rest of pics to go with above info.
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Was cutting some more since it cooled down last night. Noticed on/off switch acting weird when shutting off. Traced both wired cleaned all contact points. So of gun it was right at the switch button wire. The wire was coming off at solder point.
But saw ran perfect.
I was going to solder back once removed the broken wire piece still in soldered hole. But think I have going to use female connector and do like the huskys switch on the connection point.
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The new PP445 build did get paid for. SOLD
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New guy here! Hoping I might can get some help with my favorite saw. So I have an old 445 that I have been using to clear trees from the storms this year. It has always been a little cold natured, but the last time I was using it i started having issues with it to the point where it shut down and has not started since. We cleaned the carb, changed the plug (has spark), ran new fuel line, etc to no avail. I just ordered a new carb kit for it, but I can't find the factory carb settings anywhere and Walbro has yet to get back with me so I'm just having to guess at this point. Is there anything else I need to look for on this saw to get it back running? I'm not very familiar with this style set up and need it back going ASAP so any help is greatly appreciated.
TIA for any help!
Derek
***I am also looking for a few parts if anyone knows where to look. Need a grab handle, the side inserts for the throttle handle, and possibly the brake parts (not sure mine even has any in it currently)***
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We are talking the 70.7cc PP445 right? That is a great saw.
There is a long thread here on the Poulan 445.
Plus threads on each of the others. 415 425 475 505
Depends on which parts you are wanting. I have been selling off this series now. Sold 2 running PP445 recently
New carb kit. But the carb would be from lightly seated L H both in and then back out somwhere from 1 out to 1.5 out for a starting point and then fine tune.
Pull muffler look at front of piston for scoring.
Check you impulse line from bottom back of crankcase seen between tank and cc to carb.
Just a few other ideas.
K10-WJ
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Thanks for the response cut4fun. I've been reading a good bit through your posts. I'm currently waiting on a carb kit to come in so I can go from there. We did replace the impulse line while we had it apart just in case and I also noticed that the high adjustment was on 1/4 out. Planning to pull the muffler when I get a chance and check it out. Not really expecting to find any issues given how strong it runs and the fact that the compression update soon.
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@3000 FPS Roger have you paid attention where your tune setting ends up on these? He is saying he was 1/4 out on H.
I dont think I ever saved anything besides my starting points 1 1.25 1.5. Nothing after fine tuning on this series that I can recall.
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I have not tuned that saw in long time but I could step out to the garage and see where it is sitting at right now on the carb adjustments. Tomorrow.
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Ok I got the Poulan Pro 445 out and the low setting is at 1 1/4 turns out.
The high setting on the carb is out 7/8 turn out . The last time I used the saw it was running very good.
KEEP in mind that these setting will get you into the ball park and then you have to tune your saw according to where you live the gas you use and other variables.
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Ok I got the Poulan Pro 445 out and the low setting is at 1 1/4 turns out.
The high setting on the carb is out 7/8 turn out . The last time I used the saw it was running very good.
KEEP in mind that these setting will get you into the ball park and then you have to tune your saw according to where you live the gas you use and other variables.
Thanks for checking yours.
Been busy with plumbing fix here.
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Local said he couldnt believe how sweet the quad port 71cc poulan 445 was.
Testing out a bunch of saws.
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Just saving this pic here. Was a 475 with the better 445 505 425 tank air filter set ups.
This was posted in my CRG last night. Gary said it was 2011. But I thought it might be 2013 poulan gtg. Anyhow, pic I never saw before.
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Helping a guy out with a saw that is my favorite of the series. PP445 70.7cc quad port
His pics he sent me.
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Poulan 445 70.7cc quad port. These green coils in these are unlimited.
No need to change them out like those limited rpm ones in 475 505.
Just putting a new rope in for a new owner. Had 5 of these. Last of the runners. Sold 3 or 4 of them. Can’t recall anymore.
Just selling off the series.
Air injection with mesh filter. Looks like it did its job after last local had test cut with it.