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Title: Silvey 300 Round Chain Grinder.
Post by: 660magnum on December 20, 2012, 12:49:28 pm
Silvey makes several round chain grinders. Here is the typical smaller one. There is one of these a guy has not far from my house. The grinding wheel on the 300 is 5-3/4" X .155" X 1" for 3/8" & .404" chain. Some people call this a 3/16" wheel but 3/16" is .1875. For the little chains, you would use the 5-3/4 X 1/8" X 1" wheels. These wheels are black and 120 grit. I've seen other wheels run on them though.  It works by the grinder swinging down against the chain like with most round grinders. This grinder dresses the wheel with a straight angle on both sides which is unusual? I don't know what it was used for as the vertical angle is wrong. I suspect someone was trying to square grind with it?  Also, the wheel is worn out. The 300 doesn't normally come with a mounted dresser. You use the hand held brick to shape the grinding wheel. You can buy a mounted dresser that just does the final finish dressing of the cutter side of the wheel if you like. Silvey makes some other larger models such as the 510 and 600 for round chain also. This stand is home made.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/jamesirl/Silvey300A_zps8ee28286.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/jamesirl/Silvey300B_zps11e9330c.jpg)

This picture shows the limits for the vice angle. The stud sticking out from the vice pivot base contacts the stops in each direction. Currently the vice is in an intermediate position not for left or right cutters. Notice the adjusting screw and jam nut that stops the grinder's travel in the down position. At the far left center, notice the degree marks on the grinder tilt for the vertical angle. The 10 degree angle across the front of the top plate is permanent on this grinder.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/jamesirl/Silvey300G_zpse32165b9.jpg)

This last picture shows the substantial chain stop. Notice that the stop is notched on the end that holds the top back corner of the cutter to hold the cutter firmly against the vice. Take notice of the degree marks on the vice pivot angle.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/jamesirl/Silvey300H_zpse5f35241.jpg)

Title: Re: Silvey 300 Round Chain Grinder.
Post by: Philbert on October 18, 2015, 04:07:25 pm
Saw one of these grinder at a GTG this weekend. 

Srcarr made a modified wheel flange/arbor mount for it that allows the grinder to accept the more common 7/8 inch arbor hole wheels used on Oregon and similar grinders.  A nice adaptation, allowing more flexibility in sourcing wheels.

Philbert
Title: Re: Silvey 300 Round Chain Grinder.
Post by: srcarr52 on October 19, 2015, 10:10:28 am
I think Silvey or someone was trying to make a square grinding rig like the add on to the Stihl USG grinder. It's pretty interesting and it looks like the second angle is set incorrectly. It should true the OD of the stone to 5-10 deg instead of the back of the stone.

Like Philbert said, I made a new arbor to use 7/8 grinder wheels but stones for the 300's are still available through Madsens.
Title: Re: Silvey 300 Round Chain Grinder.
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 19, 2015, 12:08:30 pm
I got some kind of spacer  thing from Madsen's to run bigger center wheels on the usg. Except opposite way. usg smaller around hole and spacer fits inside 7/8 if I am thinking right to downsize them to fit usg.
Dont know if I am talking same thing as you all or not.
Title: Re: Silvey 300 Round Chain Grinder.
Post by: Philbert on October 19, 2015, 01:30:43 pm
As I understand it, same idea, different direction.  The Silvey grinders use larger, 1 inch ID wheels, and need a reducing arbor to use the smaller, more commonly available, 7/8 inch ID wheels.  This replaces the OEM arbor, held on with a set screw on the Silvey 300 grinder.

(Maybe srcarr can pot a photo).

Other grinders use smaller ID wheels, and need a bushing to use larger ID grinding wheels.

Philbert
Title: Re: Silvey 300 Round Chain Grinder.
Post by: srcarr52 on October 19, 2015, 02:03:51 pm
It's a little hard to see the difference in a picture. Top is stock 1", bottom two are 7/8" and all use a set screw to keep the arbor on the motor shaft.
Title: Re: Silvey 300 Round Chain Grinder.
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 19, 2015, 02:21:03 pm
Very cool to be able to make your own stuff like that. Thanks for sharing info.  8)