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Title: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 16, 2013, 12:31:24 pm
3 benches covered still after having to work on my sons car for the last 2-3 days.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2002envoy/bench316018_zpsc1dd8572.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2002envoy/bench316019_zps5f94951e.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2002envoy/bench316020_zps79ec3fd7.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2002envoy/bench316021_zps7bdb023f.jpg)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Dh1984 on March 17, 2013, 07:58:40 pm
I have my echo Cs8000 and a poulan 3400 o0n my bench right now.

I'm putting new starter rope in the echo and for the poulan 3400 i have to put a new starter pulley and a new starter rope also.

The other day i had 2 Ms250's on it after the owner of them cleaned the carbs and had the adjustment way out of whack on them.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: rms61moparman on March 17, 2013, 08:06:15 pm

Just finished combining a Makita DCS-401 and a Dolmar PS-401 into a running frankensaw.
Looks terrible but runs out pretty well.
Gotta pick up a chain for it this week.


Mike
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 660magnum on March 17, 2013, 08:13:18 pm
Well . . . . is it a Makita-Dolmar 401 or a Dolmar-Makita 401?  I'm sure it runs fine either way.

Is more orange or blue?

We need some pictures?

I had a Johnny Red Husky once  but changed it to all Husqvarna eventually.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: RoyM on March 17, 2013, 08:19:06 pm
I see the problem here, you need more bench space. ;D
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Al Smith on March 17, 2013, 08:23:59 pm
Oh trust me bench space doesn't help . ;) Putting stuff away does although I've never quite learned to do that myself .

I've got two Poulans and a Stihl on the bench and another Poulan in the shed waiting for two things .Me not working 7 and 12 and the weather to get a tad warmer .
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Walt on October 20, 2013, 07:25:37 pm
Thought I'd dig this one up on a rainy Sunday, I dragged in my old comet saw from the storage hut today to give it a cleaning and contemplate selling it on the bay, I'm pretty beat from painting and carpeting the wifes new office today but I will get some pictures up tomorrow.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun on October 20, 2013, 07:57:28 pm
comet saw?  pics?
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Walt on October 20, 2013, 08:30:43 pm
Pics tomorrow, it came from a collection I bought a few years ago that turned out to be mostly a disappointment. I would get some pics fired up tonight but I'm whipped, Jen works at the local college and got a new office last week and after three dinner conversations about the ugly walls and floor I decided a gallon of Sherwin Williams and a 13x10' chunk out of my rental unit carpet reserve would be worth it. Apparently she could put in a maintenance request but it takes several months and based on the quality of their work...no thanks, I've seen neater paint work in x crack houses that my buddy used to buy and flip. 
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Philbert on October 20, 2013, 10:01:06 pm
Toro CCR snowthrowers!  Winter is a coming!

Still 2-cycle, 50:1, 3 HP. Except these always START ON THE 1st or 2nd pull.

Philbert
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Walt on October 21, 2013, 02:26:10 pm
Rn the Comet before cleaning
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 21, 2013, 02:38:36 pm
Comet reminds me of another older saw I had worked on.  Also posted 2 pics of same pic so I tossed 1.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Walt on October 21, 2013, 04:28:48 pm
Thanks for killing that second pic, thought it was of the roller nose bar, I'm going to chuck up a stainless cup wheel in one of my drill presses and give it a cool look before I clear it. As far as the powerhead, I'm torn as to just cleaning it or giving it a go in the soda blaster and repainting it, I'm switching my blaster over to glass bead and saws will be a no go after that in there so now I'm really confused. Right now I'm watching the weather forecast to see what gets done first, either putting up a greenhouse at my buddies place, finishing snowplow painting or working on saws in the basement shop. Really could use a couple days of good weather to wrap up the outdoor stuff.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Al Smith on October 22, 2013, 08:27:36 am
I've got a pair of Makita 7321 concrete saws I bought on the cheap .They are Dolmars model 73 something or another .One had the coil off with a smashed plug wire and the other a busted pull cord . I switched starters  and evidently no sparky so I'll switch coils and plug wires and go from there .

I know almost nothing about these things and have no idea if a saw coil will enterchange or not .I certainly don't want to spend the flea bay price of 135 bucks for a danged coil .
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 660magnum on October 22, 2013, 09:05:29 am
The 7300 chainsaw coil is a dark red in color and is rpm limited around 13,500

The cut-off saws are probably limited at 10,000?
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Al Smith on October 22, 2013, 09:22:48 am
Yes it says right on the flywheel 10,000 rpms.I didn't think they even ran that fast.


Probabley the water spray might have cooked the coil for all I know.If I can get one of the two running I'll tinker with the other in due time . Not a big deal just one of many projects I have that eventually all get done .

It would be kind of nice though because I've cut concrete forever with an abrasive blade on a portable Skil type saw which leaves a lot to be desired .
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Al Smith on October 22, 2013, 04:54:44 pm
I did get one of those concrete saws running today .I may fix the other or may just have it as standby for parts .
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 22, 2013, 05:10:49 pm
Good deal............. 8)

I remember seeing those. They made your truck a low rider.  ;)

Makita DCP 7321

(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o175/guidosalvage/MakitaDCP7321_zpsfac8430f.jpg)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Al Smith on October 22, 2013, 08:00:37 pm
The one in the bottom of the picture I got running .The pot licker gave me fits .I tried to start it with the decomp pressed in ,no go.Pulled it out ,fired right up .Odd!


I need to find a blade for it ,20MM arbor .All I have on hand are 1" arbors for my cut off saws .Lowes most likely ,close about a mile and a half .

I sure could have used this thing a couple years back when I had all that brick and sandstone to cut for the house addition .I wore out two Skil type saws and was buying blades 6 at a time .
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: H 2 H on October 23, 2013, 02:29:20 pm
031 and 044   ;D
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Al Smith on October 23, 2013, 05:25:53 pm
I gave that thing a run today .I didn't have exactly the blade I wanted but it was all I could find in 20MM hole size .Metal cutter not masonary .

That thing went right through a cinder block like it wasn't even there justa getten it .There must be some method besides a limited coil to govern it .Yesterday with no blade at about half throttle it just quit running until I left off it. Today I could give it all it had in the cut .Not that it matters at all because it works just fine . ;D

Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 660magnum on October 23, 2013, 06:50:40 pm
I would say that you got a good deal then?
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Bitburger on October 24, 2013, 02:02:20 am
(http://s7.directupload.net/images/131024/rqo6z2wi.jpg)

fallen in love with lime green and very happy with my recent purchase (hello to BC).
Is getting some "wellnes" now and one day it will support my other Dolmar 153 at home,
after having travelled about 16.000 miles since 1980  :) :P
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: jockeydeuce on October 30, 2013, 02:23:46 pm
(http://s7.directupload.net/images/131024/rqo6z2wi.jpg)

fallen in love with lime green and very happy with my recent purchase (hello to BC).
Is getting some "wellnes" now and one day it will support my other Dolmar 153 at home,
after having travelled about 16.000 miles since 1980  :) :P

Just saw this.......Interesting that you are keeping track of the mileage. :)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Walt on November 01, 2013, 11:31:34 am
Got an old Echo pole saw with a non adjustable Walbro on it that was dropped off yesterday, since I didn't have a kit for the carb here I carefully cleaned it and reinstalled. It seems to run ok but not what I was looking for, The air cleaner housing was broke so I took a walk to the storage hut and found another, I think I will service the shafts, sharpen it, replace the plug and ship it back so they can use it, now that I have found another carb I will order a kit and rebuild it so I can swap them next week. Not a big fan of non adjust carbs.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: super44 on November 01, 2013, 03:34:34 pm
Got another McCulloch SP 125 to check out and put some gas in to see if she will fire up.  No history on this one so what ever happens it will be a surprise.

Turns out to have no spark, went in and found the flywheel to have been damaged in a previous attempt to remove it. Got it off but now it needs parts.  No real surprise there. Happy Friday!!
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: mdavlee . on November 01, 2013, 09:09:23 pm
I had a 288 earlier and I've got a few chains setting there waiting to be ground
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: alsled on November 12, 2013, 07:06:58 pm
Just made a dual port muffler for my 390
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on December 02, 2013, 01:27:14 pm
Looks good, and a is it what you want to get?
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Al Smith on December 05, 2013, 06:41:16 am
Turns out to have no spark, went in and found the flywheel to have been damaged in a previous attempt to remove it. Got it off but now it needs parts.  No real surprise there. Happy Friday!!/end quote .


Some of those things used #12-24 screws holes which will strip out ,not heavy enough .I had one I think I tapped out to 5/16" 18 .That's a big ole crankshaft and a heavy duty wheel there .Takes some robust stuff to pull it off .It certainly isn't a tinker toy .

So now thinking out loud I'm not sure if a 250 flywheel would fit on  that thing or not .The 250 used the large ignition coil while the 125 c used a 10 series coil .On that I'm also not certain what the magnet spacing is or if the coils could be interchanged .
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 05, 2013, 04:30:18 pm
Taking a parts count for the next one.  She'll be orange crankcase, recoil and clutch cover with  black  tank, cyl, af cover though.

http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2390.0;attach=4759;image
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: procarbine2k1 on December 05, 2013, 08:33:43 pm
Kevin, if you run across an extra tank for a 475 or whatever else fits I would be interested.

As far as what's on my bench...

That same 3.3 that was on there last week. Hoped to have it buttoned up yesterday, but had some things to take care of on my car. Put in a new thermostat as well, and a royal pain that was. Ate up my saw time...
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 05, 2013, 08:51:25 pm
Kevin, if you run across an extra tank for a 475 or whatever else fits I would be interested.



Tell me about car work, seemed like all I was doing this year.

I have  some. Watcha looking for and filter type there was 2.  475 was yellow and filter type I dont use.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 05, 2013, 08:57:22 pm
NOS one and another used one already gone. Think these are ones that is left.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Partner550/tanks001_zps737d82db.jpg)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: rms61moparman on December 05, 2013, 10:18:28 pm


Well tonight we had;

a J-red 2165 that I'm porting
2 MS 170's that needed the basic love (fuel filter, lines, carb kit etc)
A Stihl pole saw needing basic love,
and A Poulan blower that came in with what was thought to be a split fuel tank but turned out to be just a trashy fuel cap!


Mike
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on December 22, 2013, 04:01:54 pm
Old Roper 3.7 waiting for parts
Stihl 028AV waiting for parts
Homelite 340 that I can't get to run right
A bunch of mufflers to modify
A 261-262 conversion that I am documenting for the site
Partner K760 cut off saw, I hate working on those things so it just sits
Stihl 051 that doesn't run that I just can't get into.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: brokenbudget on December 22, 2013, 04:18:52 pm
Homelite 340 that I can't get to run right

chances are it's the ignition. it's a very well known issue with that model. and it's too bad. they're not a bad saw really.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: weimedog on December 28, 2013, 06:50:48 pm
A Husqvarna/Poulan 41 that has fuel starvation issues. Replaced "pulse pipe grommet", that plastic part the carb mounts to, carb kit and fuel lines. Cleaned the carb mostly...didn't pop the plugs out. Just going to buy a carb and hope that's it at this point. If it's not the carb then it's ignition acting like that...been there before. Frustrated. >:(

AND a pile of JUNK!  ;D

Made a short video of the upcoming projects....  The video is targeted to newbie's not folks like you here btw, so excuse the simplistic stuff.

I had two of the bottom end/tank handles, and a top end (two including aftermarket stuff), and came up with the rest after visiting 3 shops, all 3 had used parts for sale at good prices that contributed to this junk pile...of course one in particular had ALL the stuff needed to complete the shopping list....as usual!  ;D Want to rehash the "Chicken Chit to Chicken Soup" fun and games we did with the Husky 61's thru 272's that was a lot of fun a few years back..with a chassis where parts are available. And pick through aftermarket options..  I'm leaving the technical & performance builds to the experts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTFkFQFoS2U
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: farmboy on December 29, 2013, 09:27:13 am
Stihl 009 I have sold can't get it to run right.  Them things oil like crazy.
Poulan 3500 very very low hr.  Got a surprise when I popped the cyl. to delete base gskt., upgrade to 3450 int boot and carb.  It has been under water.
Husky 562 scored piston
Husky 365XT scored piston
I could keep going and going and going.
Shep
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: mdavlee . on December 29, 2013, 11:19:11 am
I've got nothing on it right now. I finished up the stihls I had and I have a 288 in a million pieces to start on soon.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 29, 2013, 12:04:10 pm
I've been slacking.
Fixed the 338 the other day. 
Still need to pull the piston on PP365 and put new piston set and upgrade intake and carb to 330 set up so I can compare to 3500.
Wanting to pull the 3.0 and install the 335 top with 3450 piston. Just cant make myself pull down a perfect running saw though.
Still have the harley poulan project at stand still. 
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Saw Dr on December 29, 2013, 09:07:53 pm
Bench #1 = 290 that needs put together.
Bench #2 = 362 Stihl that I have GOT to get finished.
Bench #3 = piles of crap and a 272, 372, & 359 that are all jumbled together + my Poulan 2500 limb saw that is not actually a 2500 anymore. 
Bench #4 = very low hour 288 Lite that is getting cleaned up and wrap/long bar (36" lightweight) treatment.
Title: On the Chainsaw bench.
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 31, 2013, 06:07:30 pm
Weather got up to about 46 today so I got out and was able to get a few thing done.   
I finished putting together a Wild Thing that I got for free. I put a used piston and cylinder in it and then tuned it in some wood out behind the garage.
Next I pulled the carb off of my PP 395.   The last time I had out it would just die at WOT and no matter how I adjusted it.   Cleaned the carb and put a kit in today and all is well again.
Then I pulled the clutch off of my 3750 and checked the rim size on it and cleaned it up some.

All in all it was a good day on the ole chain saw bench.   Just the way I like it.
Title: Re: On the Chainsaw bench.
Post by: 660magnum on December 31, 2013, 06:38:14 pm
We had that here a couple days ago. I got a few things done.
Title: Re: On the Chainsaw bench.
Post by: Al Smith on January 03, 2014, 10:44:59 am
I'm slow but sure gathering up parts for an 034 super I got on the cheap .Finally found a decent air box cover for a decent price off flea bay.I think all I need is a fuel tank filter and maybe a set of rings,crank seals  .I think the piston might be able to be saved ,doesn't look that bad .Then again I'm not all that fussy with pistons .If it is junk an after market piston isn't that expensive .
Title: Re: On the Chainsaw bench.
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 03, 2014, 02:16:32 pm
I finished the NE 338xpt during that warm spell.  Runs like new again wooohooo.
Title: Re: On the Chainsaw bench.
Post by: bustedknuckles on January 17, 2014, 05:11:03 pm
I've got an 019T disassembled waiting for an oil pump to arrive. Also have a Mac 10-10A that isn't automatic anymore apart needing oiler repairs. (waiting on ambition), And I have the handle off the Stihl 070 and am in the process of putting rubber on the tubing. I need to spin up about 3 chains too when I get a chance. Wasn't in the shop at all today. Maybe tomorrow... I did get some trees felled last evening. Good thing as it's very windy today.
Title: Re: On the Chainsaw bench.
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 17, 2014, 06:58:38 pm
I've got an 019T disassembled waiting for an oil pump to arrive. Also have a Mac 10-10A that isn't automatic anymore apart needing oiler repairs. (waiting on ambition), And I have the handle off the Stihl 070 and am in the process of putting rubber on the tubing. I need to spin up about 3 chains too when I get a chance. Wasn't in the shop at all today. Maybe tomorrow... I did get some trees felled last evening. Good thing as it's very windy today.

Sounds pretty busy.

I took a bunch of pictures today and weights of some of my Poulans and other saws.
Title: Re: On the Chainsaw bench.
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on January 18, 2014, 06:03:08 pm
I've got an 019T disassembled waiting for an oil pump to arrive. Also have a Mac 10-10A that isn't automatic anymore apart needing oiler repairs. (waiting on ambition), And I have the handle off the Stihl 070 and am in the process of putting rubber on the tubing. I need to spin up about 3 chains too when I get a chance. Wasn't in the shop at all today. Maybe tomorrow... I did get some trees felled last evening. Good thing as it's very windy today.

Bustedknuckles when you install the oil pump in the 019T, two things
1) there is a window on the plastic case where the oil pump drive gear shows through the center of which is marked by being more roughly finished than the rest of the plastic, if the pump drive gear is not centered in that area the pump will not work.
2) when you install the pump using the screw you used to pull it out, be mindful of how much resistance there is to putting the pump in place. I have noticed that the plastic shrinks and the fitment of the pump is not tight enough to keep it in place. If this is the case you can wrap a little fuel proof Teflon tape around the pump body to get a tight fit. Don't cover up the inlet hole in the pump body itself OBTW if the pump was not centered in the opening the when you took it apart it would look s though the pump was bad when in fact it may not be. JMO from fixing the same saw four times.
Title: Re: On the Chainsaw bench.
Post by: Sawnami on January 22, 2014, 06:48:46 am
Cleaning up this little guy. Originally didn't have any fire because the moveable breaker plate was loose. Runs now.
Wright C70 116 cc
(http://i842.photobucket.com/albums/zz345/sawnami/3e7f5ed35d85745616b6accf09128faf.jpg)
Title: Re: On the Chainsaw bench.
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 22, 2014, 05:53:04 pm

Wright C70 116 cc


What are they like in  a big wood cut?
Title: Re: On the Chainsaw bench.
Post by: Sawnami on January 22, 2014, 09:20:58 pm
I have yet to find out. Just got it running.
Title: Re: On the Chainsaw bench.
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 04, 2014, 12:11:13 am
Well I had my husky 455 all tore apart so I could do some work on it.    I got it all put back together today and fired up.  I think I am going to change the bar over to 18" from 20". 
Title: Re: On the Chainsaw bench.
Post by: Al Smith on February 04, 2014, 07:29:53 am
I'm slowly gathering parts to get the second Makita 7321 concrete saw going .You gotta bide your time sometimes until parts come about for a reasonable price .

 Needed a coil but I'll not pay nearly the price I had in both saws for a freakin coil .Got one coming in the mail,50 bucks .A few more parts and I'll have it .
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on March 25, 2014, 05:14:41 pm
On bench piles of crap one echo 280 in nead of a fuel look over and a Homelite 350 won't idle seal under carby is no good >:(
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Al Smith on March 25, 2014, 08:42:13 pm
I just haven't been in the mood .I did however order the last of the parts to finish the second Makita DCP  7321 concrete saw .It should warm up one of these days or at least it always has in the past .
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Eccentric on March 30, 2014, 05:37:25 am
On bench piles of crap one echo 280 in nead of a fuel look over and a Homelite 350 won't idle seal under carby is no good >:(

Replace the intake boot.  New ones aren't hard to find or expensive.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on March 30, 2014, 04:56:15 pm
Got a new one in it ;D
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on April 01, 2014, 08:11:25 am
Lots of unfinished stuff
Stihl 051 waiting for fuel line components
HVA 372 waiting for new intake parts
Stihl MS290 waiting for coil
Craftsman/Roper 3.7 no idea what is wrong
HVA 61 needs carb rebuilt
HVA 272xp owner says it doesn't run well in a vertical push cut?
Jonsereds 2165 needs new tank/handle tree crush
2 261 to 262 conversions need to be tuned and tested then make video for tutorial (back burner)
And whatever shows up today!
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on April 01, 2014, 04:07:51 pm
On bench piles of crap one echo 280 in nead of a fuel look over and a Homelite 350 won't idle seal under carby is no good >:(

Replace the intake boot.  New ones aren't hard to find or expensive.

Worked on it today , put a new fuelfilter in the tank and had a look on the leaking to
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on April 06, 2014, 04:30:00 pm
Lots of unfinished stuff
Stihl 051 waiting for fuel line components
HVA 372 waiting for new intake parts
Stihl MS290 waiting for coil
Craftsman/Roper 3.7 no idea what is wrong
HVA 61 needs carb rebuilt
HVA 272xp owner says it doesn't run well in a vertical push cut?
Jonsereds 2165 needs new tank/handle tree crush
2 261 to 262 conversions need to be tuned and tested then make video for tutorial (back burner)
And whatever shows up today!

Stihl 051 done and picked up by owner.
HVA 372XP done tuned, waiting for test in wood.
MS290 done, tested in wood back in owners hands.
HVA gray top 61 done waiting test run.
HVA 272XP bad clutch seal and needs carb kit.
JRed 2165, done, new tank handle.

Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on April 07, 2014, 12:06:24 am
Ridgid 590-17   piston and cylinder

Solo 630 no spark ( done and runs )
JO-BU L6 no spark and no sprokket ( now has spark still looking for a sprokket )
Dolmar CT damaged ignition and flywheel,no chain,oiler not compleet. ( replaced ignition and flywheel, made a chain for it and made the oiler compleet )
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: mdavlee . on April 07, 2014, 05:12:57 am
I put together a 56" granberg mill and swapped oilers on the 046.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on April 09, 2014, 09:50:29 am
Today, it is 'honey-do' stuff then maybe get to test two saws I have to ship out.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 1manband on April 09, 2014, 09:41:26 pm
smaller lathe parts.  everything going in the basement, where i can stay warm for a change.  tweaked my back last night carrying the just the motor and legs inside.  the rest, will sit in the back of my truck until, a good plan and muscle get here to get the crazy thing down the steps and swing around the landing.  still don't know what i was thinking. ???  hahaha.

-joe
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: aclarke on April 09, 2014, 10:34:51 pm
Joe, what kind of Lathe?
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on April 10, 2014, 12:06:34 am
@ Joe:  i know wat you mean the mind is young but the boddy ::) ;D

Hooping your back will cure fast and the muscle to found soon to get the stuff in place ;)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 1manband on April 10, 2014, 04:58:04 pm
adam....it's a 10 x 24 Logan-Wards.

dutch.... thanks.  night of using heating pad and had the mrs., do a dance on my back.  will do the same tonight.  over the years, found that the sooner you can relax the muscle spasms, the number of recovery days lessen.  was expecting not to be able to tie my boots this morning, but that was not the case.  not as bad this time.

regards
-joe
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on April 11, 2014, 02:48:14 pm
Joe it must have bin a good dance on your back ;D

Fine to hear its getting better
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on April 17, 2014, 02:18:21 am
Working on a DOLPIMA PS-90

The JO-BU L6 is now a runner ;D

I a moment a Remmington Bantam will join the bench 8)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on April 17, 2014, 04:40:38 am
DOLPIMA  PS90
(http://up.picr.de/17988030zd.jpg)

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(http://up.picr.de/17988039ci.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/17988041rt.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/17988043eb.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/17988045ct.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/17988046jt.jpg)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: super44 on April 17, 2014, 10:06:20 am
A McCulloch 125 for a resurrection.  Having some trouble getting the side plate off so the crank can slide out.  I think I have all the screws loose but it seems determind to stay right where it is.  Any suggestions??
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on April 22, 2014, 09:15:23 am
A Husqvarna 362XP that is going to get a top end, MM, and whatever else it needs.  Got it off feebay so it is not complete but looks to be in decent shape. May even split the cases for new bearings and seals.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 1manband on April 22, 2014, 05:38:42 pm
painted the legs on the lathe.  one coat, primer, 2 coats of ford tractor light grey enamel.  still have not put it together yet.  will need more help for that.

tweaked the air filter pipe to carb; and the carb itself, on the echo.  got waaaaay too carried away with the carb.  has great acceleration, and midrange transition.  problem is now, will have to tone it down, idle is now unsteady.  too bad, because other than at idle, its awesome.  oh well.

---------------------------------------
dutch......... what is that photo of, that resembles a crank bearing half?

tim..... there is a resonable $ HVA 576 out my way.......  maybe of interest.


-joe

Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 660magnum on April 22, 2014, 06:08:56 pm
My primary concern has been yard work since early April. I've picked up fallen dead limbs until I'm blue in the face - was a bad weather year.  I've got to burn them but when the moisture is right, the wind is not. I have mowed the yard twice already. The ditch by the highway is too wet as it is like a small stream. I caught the usual wet areas of the yard as being dry yesterday and mowed them, no problem.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on April 22, 2014, 11:12:35 pm
Joe... do you mean that clutch part of the dolpina ?
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 1manband on April 23, 2014, 08:46:47 pm
Joe... do you mean that clutch part of the dolpina ?

if you say it is, dutch....   i have never seen any clutch parts of a dolpina before.  hahaha.  that's why i asked.  looks like fun.

-joe
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on April 24, 2014, 12:55:47 am
Joe... do you mean that clutch part of the dolpina ?

if you say it is, dutch....   i have never seen any clutch parts of a dolpina before.  hahaha.  that's why i asked.  looks like fun.

-joe

o ya for shoure a lot of fun i have here Joe ;D
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun on April 30, 2014, 08:17:24 pm
Had a 353 and 268 on the bench today.  In/Out fixes.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on May 03, 2014, 04:49:37 pm
First type Dolmar CC, first test run

this one has the small clutch "only two schoe's"

http://youtu.be/ilkljXyd1_0
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on May 07, 2014, 08:21:42 am
Cool! That thing sounds like a small motorcycle! Nice job, are you going to put up a video of it cutting wood?
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on May 07, 2014, 12:35:21 pm
Cool! That thing sounds like a small motorcycle! Nice job, are you going to put up a video of it cutting wood?

The cutch is not good,  the pats are worn off :'(
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: brokenbudget on May 07, 2014, 01:02:49 pm
are they the same or similar to the ca?

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-power-tool/kitchener-waterloo/chain-saw-parts/463472762?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on May 08, 2014, 01:14:30 am
No,

 this one has the first small clutch Dolmar used at that production
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun on May 08, 2014, 01:29:05 pm
Some kind of 3ci looking Mac. No clue on model yet as just dropped off. Lot of plastic covers. Did see Wen sticker.

Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Billyram on May 17, 2014, 01:24:16 pm
Picked up this one that wasn't running due to a plugged carb from sitting too long.
(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc256/billyram/002_zps12acf7e9.jpg)
Some one had removed the bar and chain that couldn't have been worn out by the looks of the rest of the saw. So I installed a new one of my choise.
Billy
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on May 17, 2014, 04:50:53 pm
Dolmar CT and a Dolpima PS-90

(http://up.picr.de/18312685dq.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/18312676nh.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/18312678ek.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/18312681vu.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/18312680rg.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/18312679td.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/18312682hs.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/18312687ct.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/18312689lo.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/18312690md.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/18312694es.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/18312695uh.jpg)

Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 1manband on May 17, 2014, 05:27:43 pm
very nice work Saul.

-joe
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on May 17, 2014, 05:47:34 pm
Thanks Joe,

Felt good doing some oldfession steal grinding and bending ;D

Saul
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on May 18, 2014, 04:28:12 am
Made a copy of the template, if some one is in need of it pm/ mail me
Title: Re: On the Chainsaw bench.
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on May 18, 2014, 04:30:38 am
Looks like a fun job cleaning and repairing that Wright
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on May 21, 2014, 01:25:54 pm
Poulan 3700 on the bench today, bought it the guy sas it wont idle....screw was  out and under the carb. ;D

only the clutch cover is broken ( its with chainbrake ) if some one got a spare ?? ::)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on May 25, 2014, 01:41:44 am
To big for mine bench ;D teles Sw3 working to get the ignition going and a Homelite C-51 this one now has spark and response on fuel
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on May 25, 2014, 02:17:14 am
Teles ignition ;)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: brokenbudget on May 26, 2014, 04:49:48 pm
last Monday I picked up this jonsered 2150/ for the princely sum of 20bux. the seller even threw in a new brake band.  :)
(http://i61.tinypic.com/4doco.jpg)

guy brought it in to one of the local shops after it started to act up. didn't want to come down to idle and wanted to rev to the moon--ALICE!
turned out it was leaking around the cylinder and block.

I like to roughen up the mating surfaces on these. lets the sealant hold better:
(http://i60.tinypic.com/eqw9bs.jpg)

she had a little bit of a carbon scrub. no damage to the cylinder. couldn't even see where there would be damage. even the ring was unharmed and reused:
(http://i60.tinypic.com/24lk6mc.jpg)
(http://i59.tinypic.com/16gyhwn.jpg)
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2meuadc.jpg)

of course, wires are a little worn. new harness on the way....
(http://i62.tinypic.com/334jivc.jpg)

if you're going to remove the spark screen, do this instead. the exhaust coming out through the slot will melt the top cover and chainbrake handle mount:
(http://i57.tinypic.com/a0vqs7.jpg)
(http://i57.tinypic.com/14llsog.jpg)

ahhhdunnn!
(http://i58.tinypic.com/18bpfd.jpg)


(http://i62.tinypic.com/2s17k3k.jpg)

Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on May 26, 2014, 11:36:45 pm
Nice jobe done and i wold say great catch to
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on May 30, 2014, 12:11:08 pm
Very nice.   Looks like a job well done.   
I have never used a 2150 before how well does it run, weight, balance and so on, 
They are good looking saws.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: brokenbudget on May 30, 2014, 05:33:25 pm
they run pretty good stock. they 'feel' lighter than a 353 and about the same power. this one has the flat top piston (44mm). without a base gasket the squish was about 13-14thou. with stock gasket, around 30ish. I was going to keep this one and do a 346 topend. but decided to sell her off bone stock.
















I wanna 562 ;D
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on May 30, 2014, 09:23:44 pm
they run pretty good stock. they 'feel' lighter than a 353 and about the same power. this one has the flat top piston (44mm). without a base gasket the squish was about 13-14thou. with stock gasket, around 30ish. I was going to keep this one and do a 346 topend. but decided to sell her off bone stock.
I wanna 562 ;D

Wow .013 to .014.   Is that cutting it kind of close?
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on May 31, 2014, 10:55:34 am
I have to go with Roger on cutting it close. I have read that on 50cc saws and smaller you could get away with 0.018 but.........I guess the new owner will find out.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: farmboy on May 31, 2014, 11:51:16 am
I have to go with Roger on cutting it close. I have read that on 50cc saws and smaller you could get away with 0.018 but.........I guess the new owner will find out.
Agree w/KRL & Roger.018 is as tight as I would go.  I do know of a Dolmar 7900 work saw @ .018 IRRC MCW in Oz.  I like .018 in 50cc and smaller .021-.023 in larger for work saw.  Have heard a Stihl 026 works well @ .016.
Shep
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: brokenbudget on May 31, 2014, 02:48:47 pm
 :-\ I did use a stock gasket while putting it back together.....
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: mdavlee . on May 31, 2014, 03:56:18 pm
I know of a 7900 that's at .014" also.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on June 11, 2014, 05:30:47 pm
Started on this one

and now started working on this one

(http://up.picr.de/18529204wq.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/18529205vg.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/18585992qa.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/18585993nw.jpg)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on June 15, 2014, 02:54:23 am
The otherday i bin to a guy who had a coil tester

The coil is shot, its now at a guy in Germany who is good on rewinding this coil and even better then original...who..hoo ;D

(http://up.picr.de/18585945yk.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/18585947yp.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/18585946ic.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/18585948mr.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/18585949mt.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/18585950ll.jpg)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 660magnum on June 15, 2014, 09:06:38 am
That's great that you could get a coil rewound
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on June 15, 2014, 02:02:22 pm
That's great that you could get a coil rewound

That for shoure, can't wait till i have it back  :D
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on June 15, 2014, 11:16:43 pm
Let us know how it turns out.   That is great that you can get it running.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on June 16, 2014, 04:51:28 am
Let us know how it turns out.   That is great that you can get it running.

for shoure i will let you guy's know ;D
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on June 16, 2014, 01:57:10 pm
Today i have a Super pro mac 81 on the bench and got it running to ;D

(http://up.picr.de/18636580bt.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/18636581yk.jpg)

Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on June 19, 2014, 12:24:02 am
I have not worked on a saw or sharpened a chain for weeks now.   Ever since the weather warmed up I have been bombarded from the inlaws with weed eaters and lawn mowers.   They are even bringing me equipment that they got free because it would not run.   I have a bunch of saws I need to get back to.   
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 660magnum on June 19, 2014, 12:30:37 am
I've been meddling with weed whackers and lawn mowers also. No chainsaws
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on June 19, 2014, 12:42:11 am
I've been meddling with weed whackers and lawn mowers also. No chainsaws

I guess it is that time of year.   

I did finally get up to the mountains last Sunday and cut down a couple of pines.  It was just the wife and I.    One was a leaner the wrong way so I made my face cut and back cut, and then proceeded to pull it down with my truck. 

I bought about 300' of winch cable and made loops on the ends.   I then melted the ends with my tig welder so that they cannot slip.   I have pulled about 7 trees now with them and they work great.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on June 19, 2014, 12:45:10 am
I've been meddling with weed whackers and lawn mowers also. No chainsaws

I guess it is that time of year.   

I did finally get up to the mountains last Sunday and cut down a couple of pines.  It was just the wife and I.    One was a leaner the wrong way so I made my face cut and back cut, and then proceeded to pull it down with my truck. 

I bought about 300' of winch cable and made loops on the ends.   I then melted the ends with my tig welder so that they cannot slip.   I have pulled about 7 trees now with them and they work great.

+1
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 660magnum on June 19, 2014, 01:04:03 am
That cable sounds like a winner for pulling them in the right direction.

I've been using a 1/2" double braid Dacron Rope. It will stall out my 4WD Ranger.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: fisaw on June 26, 2014, 02:14:04 pm
MS 200 on the bench , new oil hose/line  , clutch springs + needle bearing.
(http://u.cubeupload.com/123/02489.jpg)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 26, 2014, 02:31:49 pm
I actually turned away 2 saws Tue - Wed.  Guy text tue and ask to bring over 2 saws wed. I just said no sick didnt even ask what models. Then he text how about today tues. I just text back hmmm SICK today big time no thank you. 

I do wonder what models they were now and the problems.  Oh well no biggie.


Did get text today that still wanting to drop saws off.  So guess I will see anyways soon.

Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: aclarke on June 26, 2014, 03:53:12 pm
Kev, for some reason the oil pump looks likes it's oriented differently than the top handle model??
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 26, 2014, 07:35:05 pm
Kiev, for some reason the oil pump looks likes it's oriented differently than the top handle model??

Not me  = fisaw posted the stihl


Just to compare as it's been to long for me to remember.

http://youtu.be/NY11en0Pipg
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 660magnum on June 26, 2014, 11:11:44 pm
I pulled up the IPL for the 200T and it looks the same.

In fact the 200 and 200T are on the same IPL
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: aclarke on June 27, 2014, 12:24:53 pm
Thank you!
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on July 15, 2014, 03:07:51 pm
The otherday i bin to a guy who had a coil tester

The coil is shot, its now at a guy in Germany who is good on rewinding this coil and even better then original...who..hoo ;D


(http://up.picr.de/18585949mt.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/18585950ll.jpg)

Got this back today a fresh winded coil

(http://up.picr.de/18925656bw.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/18925657vd.jpg)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 15, 2014, 07:42:23 pm
Be neat to see a how it is done video on this type of stuff.  Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on July 15, 2014, 08:34:08 pm
So have you checked it yet, do you now have a good spark and a running saw.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 660magnum on July 15, 2014, 09:11:50 pm
Been working on bicycles for grand kids lately. Mostly old bikes I've had for years doing a clean up and replacing the rubber.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on July 17, 2014, 03:39:12 pm
 ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut_-RFltf7Q&list=UUhGNU0MUVJu0mMG9CjBYW8g
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on July 17, 2014, 09:08:25 pm
It is a runner.  Pretty cool, nice job.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on July 18, 2014, 02:15:51 am
Thanks, here some pix i made.

(http://up.picr.de/18946092tc.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/18946095td.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/18946093rm.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/18946094jc.jpg)


Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: aclarke on July 18, 2014, 01:00:57 pm
Too cool!

Adam
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on July 19, 2014, 12:47:02 am
That is pretty cool looking.   I like the pictures you took with progress of putting the points back in. 
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on July 19, 2014, 01:48:08 am
Thanks, it was damned hot at that time, but i had to hear it running ;D
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: man of stihl on July 27, 2014, 06:13:23 am
Husqvarna 2100 (http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g457/rjcfritz/01F9E1DE-9C0C-499A-ABAF-06A6C5E85201_zpsdhuczj0b.jpg) (http://s1102.photobucket.com/user/rjcfritz/media/01F9E1DE-9C0C-499A-ABAF-06A6C5E85201_zpsdhuczj0b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: man of stihl on July 27, 2014, 06:14:38 am
(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g457/rjcfritz/B82F0119-C402-46C4-AB79-CC2F6766FE82_zpsylsp3eg2.jpg) (http://s1102.photobucket.com/user/rjcfritz/media/B82F0119-C402-46C4-AB79-CC2F6766FE82_zpsylsp3eg2.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: man of stihl on July 27, 2014, 06:18:30 am
(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g457/rjcfritz/7BCDA3EB-2058-400D-A3A5-2E40227DCE3B_zpsb3ystai2.jpg) (http://s1102.photobucket.com/user/rjcfritz/media/7BCDA3EB-2058-400D-A3A5-2E40227DCE3B_zpsb3ystai2.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: farmboy on July 27, 2014, 12:29:07 pm
Me too!!  Pulled cyl. on crankcase(parts saw) piston could be cleaned up minor score ex. side.  Crank is good bearings smooth as glass.  However, bearings wallowing around in the case not good.  Good thing I have 2 more good cases.
Shep
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on July 27, 2014, 12:34:08 pm
Looks like the saw was well used.    How is the internals on it.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: man of stihl on July 27, 2014, 01:13:43 pm
I have another recoil for it. Piston and cylinder are good. Thin rings too... I have the cylinder out getting .031 off the base for .025 when done.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: man of stihl on July 27, 2014, 01:15:24 pm
What's your plans with yours Shep? Keeper or seller?
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: farmboy on July 27, 2014, 05:44:54 pm
Keeper gonna have too much in it to sell it LOL.
Shep
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on July 29, 2014, 01:57:29 am
Some work to do on that husky ::)

but then it will be a strong runner for shoure
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Philbert on July 29, 2014, 03:31:45 pm
Is that the saw in "Sharknado 2"?

Philbert
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on July 29, 2014, 06:51:20 pm
Close but no cigar.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 30, 2014, 04:31:10 pm
Had a nice looking 2100 come in today by a member here.  Hope to look  at it when caught up with car work.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on July 31, 2014, 02:54:05 am
2100 that's on mine wanted list ;D

Im working on mine Teles, i did the clutch and the trottle



(http://up.picr.de/19071333ko.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/19071331zw.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/19071334lf.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/19071332lp.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/19071335ya.jpg)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on July 31, 2014, 09:38:50 am
Man of Stihl, I was looking at the pictures of that 2100 again and that muffler looks like Swiss cheese.   I guess they did not worry about a spark arrestor on that one.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: man of stihl on July 31, 2014, 04:51:20 pm
Man of Stihl, I was looking at the pictures of that 2100 again and that muffler looks like Swiss cheese.   I guess they did not worry about a spark arrestor on that one.
yes I agree. I'll be needing another muffler some time as well. That muff mod is a bit too much for my liking.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 31, 2014, 07:34:53 pm
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/166/husky2100001_zpscd572fad.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/166/husky2100001_zpscd572fad.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/166/husky2100002_zps84d2f77b.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/166/husky2100002_zps84d2f77b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on July 31, 2014, 09:20:13 pm
Was there a kit that was offered at one time for that style of air cleaner on the 2100.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 31, 2014, 10:06:00 pm
Was there a kit that was offered at one time for that style of air cleaner on the 2100.

This one looks aftermarket set up.  I posted the IPL in 2100 thread maybe something there showing it oem for west coast maybe?
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on July 31, 2014, 10:35:30 pm
It is not a bad looking set up.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 31, 2014, 10:52:34 pm
Look at Rons 2100 with the filter intake being aluminum . This one is white plastic. Green filter slides over it and just a hose clamp around filter base to white filter intake.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on August 23, 2014, 02:32:32 pm
Worked on this 650VA runs on it own fuel now, need more carb. work

(http://up.picr.de/18574667wt.jpg)

Last week i did a test runn on the Teles SW3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWBKHL3Ds8E
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: weimedog on August 27, 2014, 09:58:40 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGjtVpGIdIw&list=UUD9l4lTAtiosSJnuxcXxdcg&index=1
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 27, 2014, 05:14:37 pm
Havent had a chance to even look at a saw since last week. Been battling my envoy and then my sons car sunfire for trip last sat. Had to leave the envoy and take the monte along with his car.  :-X

Today this was what I had been fighting and figured out today after lots and lots of trouble shooting. new ignition, cleaning grounds, removing center console to get to more grounds, hot and grounds into fuse box under hood etc etc. 

I lost all 6 gauges, odometer and the info center on the IPC.  It had went dead asleep after searching many hours.  Found a service bulletin dated from 03.  Software update at dealer only July 02 and newer. Mine was built in June 2001 and is 2002.  Dealer only deal. I figured out away around it.  Tried out a 03 and 04 IPC from a junkyard.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2002envoy/envoyIP004_zps90a0326c.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2002envoy/envoyIP003_zps55a235b7.jpg)


Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: aclarke on August 27, 2014, 06:55:07 pm
Kev, you're a brave man!!   That kinda chit drives me crazy, don't know if I would have the patience.  So do you need to have the computer re flashed in addition  to the new cluster display?

Adam
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: mdavlee . on August 27, 2014, 07:08:26 pm
That stuff is something I'll pay someone for.

Got my 046 on the bench again. Slipped timing for the 3rd time. I need to put a key back in it I guess.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 27, 2014, 07:42:23 pm
If I would have used my old cluster I would have had to have dealer do the update.

Told my wife I would dance like a leprechaun if my idea works. Well I need some beer to dance like a leprechaun. :yes:

Guys if you have a older 02 before July 02 like mine it is the software updated needed I posted above or cluster gone alseep bad etc.

I found a junkyard that would let me try a 2004 xl IPC and I heard it wake when plugged in. Only thing the fuel gauge needed the $10 part.  I ask if they had another one. They said a 2003 but not a xl. I said it dont matter IMO would you have them pull it and let me try it. They did and it sounded and woke just like the 04 one and all the gauges , odometer and info ceter all work.

Just so you guys know 02 03 04 work in 02 and best if July 02 and after for newest software. Unless you want to go to dealer for the updates and hope it wakes up.


Here is some stuff I had found that made me try above.

If I am reading this right.  If I would install a 03 or later IPC  or a 02 built after July.  I wouldnt have to do the reprogram on mine if that is the problem.  Am I thinking right on this below.

 

So will a 03 plug and play on my 02 built 06/01?  Would it matter if from trailblazer?

 

 I know roadie or someone helped me do this updating my heater module from 02 to 03 updated one.

 

Service Procedure

Some vehicles involved in this customer satisfaction program may have had their instrument panel cluster (IPC) replaced prior to this program. As a result, the replacement cluster may not need to be reprogrammed.


 

To determine whether the IPC in the vehicle requires reprogramming, the following procedure must be performed.

Important: The Tech 2 diagnostic tool must be updated with software version 8.0, released July 2002, or newer, in order to perform the reprogramming.

Nobody could tell me if the 03-04 would work so I took the chance today.

Might need a few in me to do my Leprechaun Dance I promised if my idea fixed the envoy.

http://youtu.be/F2RpJ_5fjSA


Dealer would have had to do this.

Instrument Panel Cluster (IPC) Gauges Read Zero at Times, Gauges Inoperative at Times (Reprogram IPC) #02-08-49-004A - (Nov 1, 2002)
Instrument Panel Cluster (IPC) Gauges Read Zero at Times, Gauges Inoperative at Times (Reprogram IPC)

2002 Chevrolet TrailBlazer, TrailBlazer EXT

2002 GMC Envoy, Envoy XL

2002 Oldsmobile Bravada

This bulletin is being revised to change the service procedure. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 02-08-49-004 (Section 08 -- Body and Accessories).
Condition

Some customers may comment that at times all the IPC gauges are inoperative or read zero at times.
Cause

The IPC cluster module receives information to position the gauges when the key is turned from OFF to ON/START. Random electrical interference with this data information on the serial data line may interrupt the receipt of the information by the IPC. When the IPC data information signal is compromised, the IPC will set the gauges to zero for that complete ignition cycle. The gauges may work properly on the next ignition cycle, if the ignition was off for approximately five minutes prior to the next ignition cycle.
Diagnostic Aid

With the Tech 2, determine the IPC software part number using the following procedure.

   1. Connect the Tech 2 to the vehicle.
   2. Power up the Tech 2.
   3. From the main menu, Press Enter.
   4. Select F0: Diagnostics.
   5. Select the correct model year.
   6. Select: Ld Trk.
   7. Select F1: Body
   8. Select the proper vehicle line
   9. Select the proper name plate.
  10. Select the HVAC type.
  11. Select Instrument Panel Cluster.
  12. Select F4: ID Information.
  13. Select F1: Module Information 2
  14. If the IPC software part number is 09363270 or 15085477, re-program the IPC.

Correction

   1. Re-Program the IPC following normal SPS procedures (TIS Version 8.0 released July 2002, or newer).
   2. Clear all codes.
   3. Disconnect the Tech 2 and return the vehicle to the customer.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Al Smith on August 27, 2014, 08:09:26 pm
I have a day off tomorrow so it's an Echo  hedge trimmer and two Poulan s-25's for carb rebuilds .I should have got on them a couple years back .
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun on August 28, 2014, 08:31:39 am
Kev, you're a brave man!!   That kinda chit drives me crazy, don't know if I would have the patience.  So do you need to have the computer re flashed in addition  to the new cluster display?

Adam

I had made it way worse till I could just get back to the original problem.  Scared the heck out of me. Had it not even starting and everything inside flashing on off, half the stuff inside not working lights, buttons on wheel etc.
I thought I was just going to right the ------- off.

copy paste my post

First off I lost my dash cluster gauges.

Came back from in from golf got in the envoy started it up and no gauges came on at all . All 6 just 0 left side plus no total mileage shown in area that shows mileage and trip miles drove etc.

Everything worked perfect till came back in today. Checked 24 fuse and it's good. 

Mileage being out too threw me a curve because I cant keep track of mileage driven for gas.

 

The gear selector area isnt shown either.

 

How does the ignition effect this in my problem in last 2 post, just in case?

 

I pulled the cluster and cleaned all the contacts on back etc

 

May gauges and odometer and shift indicator all came back on for drive to work. When I left today not working again. crazy

Did anyone try cleaning connections to the under hood fuse box? Mine had some green corrosion.

 

I cleaned all terminals to the fuse box under hood and pulled the 125mega fuse thing to clean it too.

 
I am only making things worse. Now my 02 envoy wont start after doing all this stuff trying to get my IP working again.
I cleaned all the terminals going into fuse box under hood. I checked fuses and changed them just in case 22 24.
I cleaned the back of IP board etc.


I can hear things click running under hood and inside area but no start.

I'm only making it worse and cant start to even check to see if last fix worked.

I am at a loss to figure this out. What about the security system? Think it has crime stopper for remote start.
 
 

Tried the remote start. Thinking security stuff. Everything click runs under hood like it is setting start, but no start.
Even the a/c etc all come on just like it is set. Hit brake to turn everything off without key.

 

 I am trying to piece to threads with 2 different problems over last 2-3 days.

 

Today I hook both side of batt back up after setting over nite. When getting in I noticed entry lights didnt come on.

 

Then tried to start. It started.

 

Dash and all 6 gauges still not working, shift indicator nor the odometer or  info center area.

 

Noticed radio come on go off. Lights get bright then dim on radio then dash. 4x4 shift indicator lights all light up then off then up and then off.

 

So I turn off restart.  Turn off restart.  Make sure that was good.

 

So I turn key to on but not try to start. Pull PCM B and PCM I and the 4x4 module for 5-10mins. Turn key of reinstall all fuses and no start again.

 

Can hear the clicking etc under hood area when  trying to start, but not the starter. Sounds like relay etc.

 

So fellows I am in way over my head on this 02 envoy xl right now.

 

Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun on August 28, 2014, 08:33:18 am
Searching internet for recalls and service bulletins is what saved me and gave me the nerve to just try newer clusters.  After I found out about the software update from July 02 and newer.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: farmboy on August 28, 2014, 11:49:59 am
You are indeed a BRAVE man!!!  I would just have to be out whatever bucks it cost me @ the dealer.  Sad part I pulled wrenches for a living (70's).  I'm precomputer control.
Shep
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 28, 2014, 12:00:09 pm
I hate chasing them but cant afford it anymore so I try. I paid $75 a hr once in mid late 90's and I said never again for right now as long as I can, so  I had to try.  Heard the dealer was up to $95 a hr now.   :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Al Smith on August 31, 2014, 05:26:41 am
Partial success .One S25 running the other still carb problems .The echo hedge clipper either has bad flywheel magnets or a  cooked coil .

I tried the remagnitizing thing and got one magnet to take ,the other did not.I have another trimmer on the way as I type,flea bay .Unless the guy lied about it ,it sounded like a funky carb is all that's wrong with it .Might be okay might not .
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 05, 2014, 01:59:51 pm
Was grabbing some pics for a guy today. So post them here too.

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Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Al Smith on September 06, 2014, 12:13:33 pm
I had anticipated getting the danged Echo hedge clipper Thursday .With Labor day in the mix maybe Fri .No go

So here is Fedex that wouldn't make a pimple on the butt of either UPS or the postal service .Shipped from Fla,went to Perrysburg Ohio then to Ft Wayne Indiana .I'll be lucky if it doesn't go to Cleveland or San Diego before I get it .Bah humbug . >:(
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 660magnum on September 06, 2014, 12:30:33 pm
I've had those excursion deliveries with both UPS and USPS. Once they go wild, it is hard to get them headed in the right direction. Looking at the packages and the address label, there is no explanation for the wild ride except perhaps they get stuck against another package?
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on September 06, 2014, 04:04:26 pm
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Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: aclarke on September 06, 2014, 05:46:37 pm
Saul, I like your style! I do a lot of light saw repair work on the kitchen table or my office desk... 
I was able to negotiate a deal with the boss to continue using the kitchen table as long as I don't use kitchen knives as screwdrivers or gasket scrapers.

Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on September 06, 2014, 05:52:01 pm
Saul, I like your style! I do a lot of light saw repair work on the kitchen table or my office desk... 
I was able to negotiate a deal with the boss to continue using the kitchen table as long as I don't use kitchen knives as screwdrivers or gasket scrapers.

+1 ;D
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Al Smith on September 06, 2014, 07:57:16 pm
Ha I once rebuilt the three point lift hydraulic pump of a 1950 Ferguson tractor at the kithchen table .Two layers of plastic and several of news paper .-----survival .I was poor as Jobs turkey and it was cold out . ;D
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 660magnum on September 06, 2014, 08:31:05 pm
Done a few small pieces in the house in the winter time myself
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on September 07, 2014, 01:00:29 am
I remember back when I was first married, I pulled the head off of truck with a 390 and lapped in a new valve on the coffe table while watching TV.    I was living in an apartment at the time and no garage.   
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 660magnum on September 07, 2014, 01:08:33 am
A 390 head wasn't so heavy but the cast iron intake manifold weighed 85 lbs.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on September 07, 2014, 03:07:20 am
Im not that odd afterall ;D ::)

Thanks for sharing +1
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 1manband on September 07, 2014, 09:15:19 am
my fun for the day is going to be welding up the frame on my wheelhorse tractor.

saul..... how did the rewound coil work out?

kev.... the bright side, (if you can call it bright), is that at least you got it back home to futz with it.  had (have) a caravan that would not idle, took a computer reflash at the dealer to finally fix it, after i went through every sensor on that p.o.s.

like the kitchen table mechanics!  once lodged a valvespring into the ceiling when a home-made spring compressor slipped off.  always have had bad experiences with springs, whether coil or leaf.  lots of energy in those things.

regards
-joe

Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 07, 2014, 10:00:18 am
In the winter I rebuild carbs on tv tray while watching sports and staying warm. Also rebuilt many saws in winter on the kitchen table.   

On the parts washer, cough cough I can only use it when the boss is gone. Dishwasher.    Same on the oven for crankcases.   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on September 07, 2014, 01:02:19 pm
my fun for the day is going to be welding up the frame on my wheelhorse tractor.

saul..... how did the rewound coil work out?

kev.... the bright side, (if you can call it bright), is that at least you got it back home to futz with it.  had (have) a caravan that would not idle, took a computer reflash at the dealer to finally fix it, after i went through every sensor on that p.o.s.

like the kitchen table mechanics!  once lodged a valvespring into the ceiling when a home-made spring compressor slipped off.  always have had bad experiences with springs, whether coil or leaf.  lots of energy in those things.

regards
-joe



Valve spring in the ceiling.    That is a crack up.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on September 07, 2014, 02:01:12 pm
Quote
1manband link
saul..... how did the rewound coil work out?

regards
-joe

It turned out great Joe, have a mega spark now ;D

Regards
Saul
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on September 07, 2014, 02:03:25 pm
In the winter I rebuild carbs on tv tray while watching sports and staying warm. Also rebuilt many saws in winter on the kitchen table.   

On the parts washer, cough cough I can only use it when the boss is gone. Dishwasher.    Same on the oven for crankcases.   ;D ;D

+1 ;D
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on September 07, 2014, 05:29:22 pm
Worked on Danarm's on Mac. D-44 mine has a 404 sproket( should be a 7/16 one im more in the 404 ;D )  and sharpen the chain of the Teles Smith SW3
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Al Smith on September 09, 2014, 07:07:05 pm
Fedex finally delivered the Echo hedge clipper 4 days late .They might have had to enlist the help of the pony express for all I know.

Rebuilt the carb first thing .The SOB wouldn't pump gas .Took the carb apart ,fiddled twiddled no go .It got dark so in the house I go--mad .So I thought about it work --impulse hole .Sure enough that was it .Fired it up and trimmed my hedge .All is good on the western front . ;D
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 660magnum on September 09, 2014, 07:23:15 pm
+1  All is good that ends well.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on September 09, 2014, 07:29:34 pm
I got a craftsman leaf blower for free from work.   It had low compression down to 80 psi, so no way would it start.
Took the cylinder off and found the ring stuck in the groove from carbon.   I broke the ring loose and cleaned up the carbon, and of course I had to widen the ports a little and and muff mod it.    Put it back together using the same ring and Yamabond to seal the crank case.   Blower works great and cost was zero.   You got to love it.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Al Smith on September 10, 2014, 07:05:19 pm
Cheap is good ,free is better . ;D
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on September 10, 2014, 07:21:02 pm
Cheap is good ,free is better . ;D

Oh yea.   That is one of the side benefits of where I work.   I have about 3 weed wackers for free that just needed alittle expertise to get working again.   The last item I got free was a Poulan 3400.    The starter pulley is broke on it but that is about it.   Piston and cylinder looked great.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Al Smith on September 11, 2014, 07:19:26 am
I get a lot of freebies myself .Generally it's a carb that needs rebuilt .

Fact in the last 3 weeks,month I've gotten several weedwackers blowers etc up and running .One is a Ryobe 31 cc wacker .Talk about power for a week wacker .

I get the stuff for nothng ,tinker with them .Maybe use them a short time and give them away to someone who needs but can't afford to buy them .No skin off my nose,I always get more .
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on September 25, 2014, 11:36:42 pm
Got a Solo 650 VA on mine bench, ignition work
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: pigpen60 on October 04, 2014, 08:43:31 pm
have a 2900 poulan on my bench. needs everything swapped over to a donor tank assembly(craftsman). has been on my bench for 2-3 months, cooler weather I can get on it.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: jmester on November 18, 2014, 08:09:47 pm
Cleaning saws did my 2152 yesterday. 660 today. Have a 372xpw to split the case on locked up the big end rod bearing. Parts on order. It is a buddy of mines saw. He and his guys are rough on saws. I don't see them till they are smoked. Usually piston and cylinders and sometimes bearing/ crank issues.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 06, 2014, 08:07:24 pm
Received today. Is it bad that I just remembered I have a poulan 505 project saw still in the box it was shipped in unopened on the kitchen table.   :D :D :D :D   So technically not on the bench.  :P
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on December 07, 2014, 03:25:57 am
Mcculluch 308-A on the bench, with primer issues
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on January 25, 2015, 02:44:58 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COCnqtMt6tg
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 25, 2015, 07:50:54 pm
Finnally got around to cleaning off the benches after working on my own stuff. Not saws though.

Got a PP330 and a husky 350. 1 to check over and 1 to go through a rebuild.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 25, 2015, 07:52:18 pm
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Got to love the sound of the old stuff.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 25, 2015, 08:29:59 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COCnqtMt6tg

Sounds good there Dutch, now all you need is some wood to check it in.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on February 11, 2015, 04:46:58 pm
Will do so when mister time let me to ;D
Title: Re: On the Chainsaw bench.
Post by: Eccentric on March 13, 2015, 09:07:51 pm
Cleaning up this little guy. Originally didn't have any fire because the moveable breaker plate was loose. Runs now.
Wright C70 116 cc
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Wright C70 116 cc


What are they like in  a big wood cut?

I ran a really clean Wright C-70 at a couple of our GTG's.  Very well built saw.  Fun to run.  Has a lever for adjusting the ignition timing.  Two settings; "start" and "run".  Kill switch is built into the throttle trigger.   Can't remember exactly how that worked.

IIRC, he had about a 28-30" bar.  Ran it in about 32-26" Douglas Fir.  Didn't bog down at all.  Lots of torque, as you'd expect from a 116cc reed valve saw.
Title: Re: On the Chainsaw bench.
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on March 14, 2015, 04:04:43 am
The chainsawguy made two Tube post on that ;)

https://youtu.be/vDgGEtA2jfw

https://youtu.be/j1PIRjO3Lt8
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 26, 2015, 11:26:37 am
I have this Craftsman riding mower been sitting in the garage about 6 years.    I got it out so I can get it going to cut down on some of the tall grass around the wood piles and buildings.   It has been real dry and we have seen quite a few grass fires already.

So far found the starter solenoid. Interlock switch, battery, and the cable that engages the blades all bad.   I dropped the deck and found the pulley for engaging the blades frozen.   Right now I have everything fixed except  to put the cable in and then put the deck back on.   It runs great and drives good.   
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 660magnum on March 26, 2015, 12:04:56 pm
I have a Craftsman (AYP) 2007 42" riding mower. I found that all the safety switch connectors have default contacts in them - if disconnected from the "so-called safety" switch will default electrically to shut the engine off. (Remember in a magneto stop circuit, to ground the magneto stops the spark) They can be defeated by thin plastic strips from a blister pack.

When reading the schematic, the 12V and the ignition magneto stop circuits are intermixed on the same ladder diagram. The logic for the the magneto circuits are reversed from those of the 12v circuits. The mower has a 12V system and a starter and generator but the ignition is still a magneto system. Confusing if the situation is not recognized.

The fuel shut off solenoid at the bottom of the float bowl can be defeated mechanically easy enough.

The riding mower has many electrical systems to keep it from running on the ignition and starter circuits. Few to enable running. Seat switch, reverse gear selector switch, fuel cut-off solenoid, - the PTO switch, and drive clutch switches can prevent the starter from running.

There is a cam operated brake mechanism on the deck spindles. Where the cam follower rides - quickly wears a notch in the cam. This locks the mechanical clutch mechanism "ON" and you can not shut off the deck. The cams can be replaced every couple years or you can remove and throw away the brake mechanism.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 26, 2015, 12:11:35 pm
Interesting Jim.   I should have this one going today.   My wife wants to try it out.
The interlock switch that was bad on this one was the clutch drive switch.   It is a make, break switch and when released the engine would die indicating the break side was bad.

I am into it for about 85 dollars so far.   The mower was free.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 26, 2015, 02:24:25 pm
Well finished up the mower and took it for a spin.   Works great and not bad for 85.00 dollars. 
This going to work great for keeping the grass and weeds down.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 26, 2015, 03:47:57 pm
350 done. If the 365 and 026 dont show up today. Will get a chance to dig into my own poulans.   

I hate working on my 4 riders, but do it to save $$.    Putting the clutch in the IH CC was a PITA I will never do again.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 660magnum on March 26, 2015, 03:54:47 pm
Worked on a few lawn mowers over the years.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Eccentric on March 27, 2015, 12:26:19 am
Kevin what model/year IHC Cub Cadet do you have?
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 27, 2015, 07:20:03 am
Kevin what model/year IHC Cub Cadet do you have?

Somewhere 70's 1000 is all.  44" deck IMO to big for K 10hp. I use it for pulling rear tiller around now days.

Rear shot

(http://firewoodhoardersclub.com/forums/data/attachments/27/27929-d7ede552544c72547f55d14e2e6c2065.jpg)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: joe_indi on March 27, 2015, 01:14:14 pm
Two MS460s with pistons seized.
The first one I could get going by replacing just the rings.
But on the second saw, I had to replace the piston.
The problem is the jet valves.
Older 046s and early MS460s didnt have this problem.
It is the high resin content in the rubber wood. It by passes the air filter and sticks onto the tiny mesh on the outlet of the jet valve.
This causes the fuel to lean out.
All the correction needed is tapping out the jet valve, prising of that mesh carefully with a safety pin, washing the jet valve and re-installing it.
I do it as a precaution on my customers' saws. But still others bring in their saws with the problem.
Looking at it one way, it is more business.  :)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Eccentric on March 27, 2015, 02:26:21 pm
Kevin what model/year IHC Cub Cadet do you have?

Somewhere 70's 1000 is all.  44" deck IMO to big for K 10hp. I use it for pulling rear tiller around now days.

Rear shot

(http://firewoodhoardersclub.com/forums/data/attachments/27/27929-d7ede552544c72547f55d14e2e6c2065.jpg)

Very cool.  I love the old IH (pre MTD buyout) Cub Cadets.  I've been an IHC nut for decades. 8)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 660magnum on March 27, 2015, 03:53:32 pm
I had a 127 for 30 years. The rear end looked like Kevin's. Parts nowdays - IHC specific - are made by MTD and are just terrible.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Eccentric on March 27, 2015, 06:41:30 pm
That's a shame...
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun on April 08, 2015, 12:30:43 pm
A mail box rebuilding has been going on my bench for 2 days.   :D :D  The one that got run over by a mustang this winter.  You know the undestructible type.  Well almost, car won that round. 

3lb hammer in hand to straighten the bends in the super heavy metal box, new center pole from a chain link fence. I can redneck rebuild it good as new.  :P ;D
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Post by: dutchsawdoctor on April 25, 2015, 04:51:50 pm
Cleaned the points, the pump and conneced the pump back to the engine,

only have to do the fuel tank and carb. then it should run ;D

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Post by: Cut4fun . on April 25, 2015, 10:26:25 pm
Kevin what model/year IHC Cub Cadet do you have?

Somewhere 70's 1000 is all.  44" deck IMO to big for K 10hp. I use it for pulling rear tiller around now days.

Rear shot

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Very cool.  I love the old IH (pre MTD buyout) Cub Cadets.  I've been an IHC nut for decades. 8)

She got her 1st mowing in Sunday. I worked on those blades alot this year and she pulled pretty good through the thick taller mow. Didnt pull down like in past when I quit using it for a mower. 44" 10hp
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Post by: 660magnum on April 26, 2015, 02:08:33 am
That Cub Cadet is a larger frame & tires than the current vertical shaft ridding lawn mowers
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Post by: dutchsawdoctor on May 29, 2015, 02:50:21 pm
got this on mine bench ;D

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Post by: aclarke on May 29, 2015, 03:08:06 pm
Nice!!
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Post by: dutchsawdoctor on May 29, 2015, 03:17:13 pm
Nice!!

thanks,

had a meating in Germany a friendly bloke ask me to help him, this twin was sitting in his room for ever wit only
one cilinder sparking
this wat i did that day together with a other collector
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lStDAcgWm0Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DGPt7lVcAs
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Post by: 660magnum on May 29, 2015, 04:44:22 pm
Excellent
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Post by: Cut4fun . on May 29, 2015, 06:32:10 pm
Nice one.   
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Post by: 3000 FPS on May 29, 2015, 07:18:01 pm
Nice saw there Saul.   Good to see it run.
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Post by: RoyM on June 03, 2015, 10:28:26 am
Blue Homelite XL-12  I acquired about 10 years ago. It has  decent compression although piston and rings show signs of hard use. I don't know what was in the tank, it sure didn't look or smell like anything that would burn in a saw. Carb is in surprisingly good shape so it got a kit, fuel line and a filter, that carb was a bit of a bugger to install. It will start and run for a minute on choke, I suspect the crank seals are shot. Going back on the shelf for the time being, too many more pressing tasks. Next project is a Super 2 which will likely wait until winter.
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Post by: Eccentric on June 03, 2015, 02:53:41 pm
If it's a regular manual oiler only XL-12 (no auto oiler pump, and has the oil fill at the rear of the saw) then it uses SKF 6119 or National/Timken 353747 seals on both sides.  Easy to get from an auto parts or bearing house.

Auto oiler versions (AND those manual-only saws with the oil fill up by the top handlebar bracket) use a proprietary seal (Homelite 58308) on the PTO side. 
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Post by: dutchsawdoctor on July 08, 2015, 03:52:42 pm
the solo twin is back on the bench >:(

one cilinder wont pic up, it only wont to pic up at higher rev. but it has spark all the way spark plug net 225 from Beru

both cilinder puls 130 psi, gone split the crank case to see whats went wrong there, owner had it overhauld with new seals, but lots off screws i found where lose :o

Saul
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Post by: fisaw on August 23, 2015, 01:22:06 pm
 Lightweight " low hour"  trimmer , non-running / engine will start only choke on and then run for a short period of time.
= fuel lines rotted.
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Post by: 660magnum on August 23, 2015, 07:40:45 pm
I have had 6 of these. 

From my experience you have an air leak or carb trouble. For air leak look at the missing back cover?
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Post by: 3000 FPS on August 23, 2015, 09:52:33 pm
I have had 6 of these. 

From my experience you have an air leak of carb trouble. For air leak look at the missing back cover?

Your kidding right.    That is just a big hole looking at the crank shaft. 
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Post by: 660magnum on August 23, 2015, 10:21:49 pm
There's a big black plastic cup that fits in the rear of the crankcase for crankcase pressure integrity. It is not in the picture? There a black metal ring that fits over the plastic cover to assure it seals all around the crankcase. This cover also supports the gas tank.

These engines were noted for the crank pin working out and rubbing a hole in the black plastic cover.
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Post by: aclarke on August 23, 2015, 11:42:25 pm
Two stroke philbert?
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Post by: fisaw on August 26, 2015, 04:39:15 pm
The trimmer starts and runs like new, or maybe a little bit better.  (fuel line) 15min work +coffee break included ;D     

@660magnum , the back cover is in the picture.
 



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Post by: Al Smith on August 30, 2015, 07:04:04 pm
On the bench I still have the Mac 1000 /Partner p100.Got the suspesion half-fast fixed now the manual oiler is next on the list .

Need to order a starter  pawl and some 80 micron screen .It seems the flocked clip on style filters for these old duffers are rare as hens tooth,thus the screen . Working 7-12s it's next to impossible to find the time to wrench on saws .
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Post by: Cut4fun . on August 30, 2015, 08:13:16 pm
034 with 036 topend and a 440 came in today,  Sunday.
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Post by: Al Smith on September 04, 2015, 08:47:43 pm
Some progress on the Partner P100/Mac 1000.Danged oiler doesn't do right .I'm thinkin because it had sat so long either the oil waxed up or some idiot used veggie oil in it .If that's the case they'd just as well used lard ,good grief . >:(

At any case the first try is with a tank full of WD 40 which that and Kroil I buy by the gallon .I'm not sure how the pump comes out and I really don't want to split the cases if I can help it .

Uncharted territory as I know little of nothing about a p100 or any Partner saws for that matter .
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Post by: aclarke on September 05, 2015, 12:36:04 am
Al, does it have a finger pump or automatic?  Worked on one for Mc Bob and Wojo but dont recall the pump set up.
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Post by: Al Smith on September 05, 2015, 05:28:51 am
It's automatic,crankshaft  driven internally with a piston pump hand oiler .I think the rotary pump might be able to be pulled through the front away from the worm gear but rather than take a chance it  might come apart I'll try to flush the system first .There isn't much info on this thing .
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Post by: Cut4fun . on September 05, 2015, 11:57:29 am
Al, does it have a finger pump or automatic?  Worked on one for Mc Bob and Wojo but dont recall the pump set up.

I remember that saw and think I remember seeing at the NWPA racing gtg.  What ever happened to it and did scott get it running?
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Post by: Al Smith on September 05, 2015, 07:11:52 pm
Oh Lawdy I tried every thing I knew on that damned saw to no avail .What I heard was it had a pinched ignition wire .I must have overlooked it .The thing was like trying to rope start a Harley . :o
Scott didn't have a bar for it but I had a race filed chain and either a 10 series Mac 16" or a Huskey mount that fit it
I'd bet it ran good but I have no idea because Wojo disappeared off the internet .
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Post by: mdavlee . on September 05, 2015, 09:08:37 pm
346 getting some extra P
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Post by: Cut4fun . on September 05, 2015, 11:34:39 pm
Going squish cut and flat top? Looks like it.

All of my good runners in 346 was pop ups. but I guess that is so out now days.   
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Post by: mdavlee . on September 06, 2015, 07:18:25 am
Yeah base and chamber got trimmed.
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Post by: Al Smith on September 07, 2015, 08:20:10 pm
I did get that Partner/McCulloch to oil finally .Weather it's enough to oil a 32" bar remains to be seen .

I never really payed much attention to how much oil came out of say the Stihls at slghtly above idle speed with the bar off . Plus I'm used to real McCulloch thumb oilers that really pump out the oil .This one pumps but not like a good ole Mac .

Good ole McRobert had a little blurb on his site that sent me in the right direction about the oil system.Thanks Bob .
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Post by: 3000 FPS on September 11, 2015, 11:04:55 pm
Well I had a Stihl MS 290 come in at work today that was locked up.   The saw looked fairly new and was pretty clean.
So first thing I did was pull the muffler and look at the piston and cylinder.   That looked good.
So I then pulled the recoil off to see if it was locked up and it was ok.   
I tried grabbing the flywheel by hand to turn it over and no go.
So I pulled the bar and chain off and took off the sprocket and then the clutch.   Could see no problem there and it was still locked up.
So at this point I decided to pull off the flywheel and there it was.   A small nail stuck to the magnet on the back side of the flyway and I could see where it had dug into the case.   
Put her all back together and it fired right up and ran great.   You just never know.

I also had a Stihl concrete saw come in today that just needed some general maintenance.    It ran good.
One of the things I started doing with every saw that comes in now is do a compression test.   I have wasted more time working on what I thought was some other problem when it was just low compression.   The Stihl concrete saw was 135 psi.

I also had a old Promac 610 come in for repairs.  It had 150 psi on the compression but the spark arrester was plugged up.
It is like a mental check list that I go through when checking them out.
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Post by: 660magnum on September 11, 2015, 11:08:35 pm
+1
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Post by: Cut4fun . on September 12, 2015, 09:55:56 am

I tried grabbing the flywheel by hand to turn it over and no go.
So I pulled the bar and chain off and took off the sprocket and then the clutch.   Could see no problem there and it was still locked up.
So at this point I decided to pull off the flywheel and there it was.   A small nail stuck to the magnet on the back side of the flyway and I could see where it had dug into the case.

Al got a 200T cheap from a stihl dealer like that once. Something was blocking flywheel and the dealer threw it in the pile.
Good finding it  Roger for someones sake.
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Post by: 3000 FPS on September 12, 2015, 10:57:16 am
Yea I figured the owner will be happy to know that was all it was.   It took me about 40 min to find it and put it all back together and have it running.    That is another thing I have become really quick at tearing these saws down and getting them back together.   Just practice.
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Post by: 660magnum on September 12, 2015, 11:14:36 am
Hard to beat a man at his job. - Practice makes perfect . . .
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Post by: 3000 FPS on September 15, 2015, 06:01:33 pm
Worked on a Husqvarna 61 today.   Owner said it would start but not stay running.  First the fuel line was all **** and when pulled off the carb it fell apart.   The carburetor diaphragms were stiff as a board.   The gasket between the carb and intake had a big tear.   The gasket between the intake and cylinder was missing half of it. 
So replaced the fuel line, installed a kit in the carb, and made the gaskets.   Saw started, ran, idled good.

Next was a Poulan 3314 that I put a new pulley and recoil spring on.   Worked fine when completed.

Then there is this Shindiawa string trimmer.  It would run about 5 minutes or less get real hot and then die.   It would not restart until it cooled back down.  Checked spark and is ok.  Compression good before and after.   Did a pressure and vacuum test and is ok.  Put spark plug on top of cylinder and pulled rope and showed good spark.   Muffler is a catalytic type so tried replacing the muffler and no go.   Spark arrester ok.   Tried cracking the fuel cap open to see if it was venting ok.   Venting was ok.   Replaced the fuel filter and bingo that was it.   It seems that the filter would gradually slow fuel delivery down causing it to get lean overheat and then eventually die.   Ran it for 30 minutes straight with no issues and restarts on one pull every time.
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Post by: Cut4fun . on September 15, 2015, 06:19:27 pm
Meant to post this here, not in its own thread.

Maroon 42cc poulan came in yesterday evening by a firewood cutter.  All covers bar chain etc off with muffler hanging.
While owner was still here. I seen both bolts T30 were still in there and gasket and heat shield was still in place. So I just tightened them up to make sure threads not all wollerded out in the cylinder. Said you put it all back together you can take it back now. No charge.

Said it had been trouble free for 3 years so far. 
 
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Post by: 3000 FPS on September 15, 2015, 06:38:01 pm
Meant to post this here, not in its own thread.

Maroon 42cc poulan came in yesterday evening by a firewood cutter.  All covers bar chain etc off with muffler hanging.
While owner was still here. I seen both bolts T30 were still in there and gasket and heat shield was still in place. So I just tightened them up to make sure threads not all wollerded out in the cylinder. Said you put it all back together you can take it back now. No charge.

Said it had been trouble free for 3 years so far. 
 

I bet it got a little quieter afterwards.
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Post by: Cut4fun . on September 15, 2015, 07:56:25 pm
Meant to post this here, not in its own thread.

Maroon 42cc poulan came in yesterday evening by a firewood cutter.  All covers bar chain etc off with muffler hanging.
While owner was still here. I seen both bolts T30 were still in there and gasket and heat shield was still in place. So I just tightened them up to make sure threads not all wollerded out in the cylinder. Said you put it all back together you can take it back now. No charge.

Said it had been trouble free for 3 years so far. 
 

I bet it got a little quieter afterwards.

He said this is quite embarrassing. But he couldnt figure out the 2 bolts inside muffler and thought they were missing. Plus he admitted he didnt have the T30 to tighten them if he had anyways. 

No biggie for me and know I will get repeat business from him in future. 

Sort of there myself. It cost me $5 long long time ago at a dolmar echo dealer, that got me into all this stuff back when I learned a 3750 was scored I had just bought of ebay.   Est to fix $200+ back then, I did it myself for $16 and cleaned everything up.
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Post by: Cut4fun . on September 15, 2015, 09:04:16 pm
Just to explain for the guy missing it.  It was those silver mufflers with 2 inside bolts with a outside cover over them with a single nut on a stud deal. 
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Post by: 3000 FPS on September 19, 2015, 01:04:31 am
Worked on a Husqvarna K950 today.   Funny because it also said Partner on the air filter cover.   But anyways the complaint was that it would not stay running at idle.   Found one of the clutch springs missing so of course the clutch was always engaged bogging the engine down at idle until it would die.
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Post by: mdavlee . on September 19, 2015, 07:03:35 am
I've got a 385 for porting and a 372xpw for assembly.
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Post by: Al Smith on September 19, 2015, 03:38:44 pm

I I also had a old Promac 610 come in for repairs.  It had 150 psi on the compression but the spark arrester was plugged up.
It is like a mental check list that I go through when checking them out.
Plugged screens are a common problem on these things .What happens is sometimes the diaphragm impulse oilers get to leaking into the crankcase sucking bar oil .Just leave the screen out .
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Post by: 3000 FPS on September 19, 2015, 08:35:53 pm
Thanks Al I did not know that about the oilers.
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Post by: 3000 FPS on September 22, 2015, 09:35:28 pm
Worked on a couple of Husqvarna 455's.  Both with oiler problems.   The first one had a bad oiler but the second one had the worm gear all striped out.   Not uncommon I have seen these problems before.

I then took an old spark plug and knocked all the porcelain out of it including the electrode.   I threaded a brass fitting into it and used some JBL to seal it up.   This is for pressure testing crank cases.  Should be ready for use tomorrow.  Just trying to simplify some of the testing I do. 
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Post by: 3000 FPS on September 27, 2015, 12:23:18 am
Well been working on this Stihl 019T.  Unfortunately someone worked on it before me.   Found the gaskets in the carb out of order and the metering lever bent super high.   Put a new kit in the carb and got the saw running but the high will not adjust correctly.  The low worked fine and would adjust with no problem.   I am not messing with it any more and will just get another carb.   I do not believe that there was one part of this saw that did not get screwed up.   I do not like cleaning up someone else's mess.   You have to yank the entire engine out of the case to replace the carb on these so getting a good carb is important.   
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Post by: dannyupsolate on September 27, 2015, 08:46:23 am
 trying  to stay calm it is weedeater day
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Post by: 3000 FPS on September 27, 2015, 09:58:57 am
trying  to stay calm it is weedeater day

Almost all the ones I have worked on usually have a bad carb or fuel lines and filter.
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Post by: Cut4fun . on September 27, 2015, 10:04:04 am
Yep on weedeaters and fuel line routing sometimes can be fun.  I do like the molded fuel lines some use though. Easiest to do it seems.

Now that stihl 019 etc I try and avoid like the plague.  Even the newer ones like them I avoid.  190 191 or 192 etc I think.
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Post by: dannyupsolate on September 27, 2015, 10:12:03 am
yep looking up carb kit now. this  one had blue fuel line still good it may shrink a little where it enters tank over time. probably best to be sure to use little plastic grommets with blue fuel line. not a problem with line that swells from gas exposure.
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Post by: 3000 FPS on October 05, 2015, 02:11:56 pm
Got the new carb in for the Stihl 019T and installed.  Saw starts, runs, idles like it should.

I am glad to be done with this one.
You know those are a some what complicated little saw.   
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Post by: Cut4fun . on October 05, 2015, 02:56:43 pm
Just finished putting a new impulse line on a poulan 3500.  I think I could almost do these blindfolded now.  To easy.
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Post by: 3000 FPS on October 05, 2015, 09:13:00 pm
Just finished putting a new impulse line on a poulan 3500.  I think I could almost do these blindfolded now.  To easy.

Not to mention what a good running saw they are.
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Post by: aclarke on October 06, 2015, 06:01:03 pm
Another 044 project, and a couple of stock appearing 026 motors...



[img http://(http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z329/Aclarke123/Mobile%20Uploads/20151005_183122_zpsvgqra3ks.jpg) (http://s1184.photobucket.com/user/Aclarke123/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20151005_183122_zpsvgqra3ks.jpg.html)/img]
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Post by: mdavlee . on October 06, 2015, 06:11:08 pm
I like the looks of that 3120 back there.
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Post by: 3000 FPS on October 06, 2015, 11:08:49 pm
I like the looks of that 3120 back there.

Yep I saw that one too.

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Post by: 3000 FPS on October 06, 2015, 11:10:46 pm
Another 044 project, and a couple of stock appearing 026 motors...



[img http://(http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z329/Aclarke123/Mobile%20Uploads/20151005_183122_zpsvgqra3ks.jpg) (http://s1184.photobucket.com/user/Aclarke123/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20151005_183122_zpsvgqra3ks.jpg.html)/img]

Hey Adam I got the double barrel muff mod done on the 460.   I will take a pic tomorrow and also run the saw tomorrow.
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Post by: 3000 FPS on October 07, 2015, 06:04:19 pm
I took a couple of pics today of the MS 460.  I got the muff mod finished up and saw tuned.
I ran it in some wood today as you can there in the picture.  Ash

All I can say Adam is that it was worth every penny.  Very nice running saw.

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Post by: aclarke on October 07, 2015, 06:15:30 pm
Very glad to hear that Roger!  Thanks for the picture!
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Post by: aclarke on October 07, 2015, 06:16:33 pm
Shotgun muffler mod looks great!
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Post by: 3000 FPS on October 07, 2015, 06:50:15 pm
Thanks.
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Post by: mdavlee . on October 07, 2015, 06:50:48 pm
Looks good Roger.
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Post by: ch74 on October 10, 2015, 11:47:08 pm
Omg that is bada$$ . Sweet pics.
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Post by: 3000 FPS on October 10, 2015, 11:49:05 pm
Hey CH74 glad you like it.
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Post by: Al Smith on October 13, 2015, 06:18:21 pm
I finally got that freakin McCulloch pm1000/Partner p100 to oil. That pot licker about gave me fits . >:(

Oiler from hell .Evidently what happens is the metal reed type check valves get warped .The automatic portion must go through the manual pump first according to what I found out .Carefully bend them straight, oil the dickens out of the reed with bar oil and squirt oil down the plug in the rotary oiler .

Blows the oil now by golly .I'd about bet enough to oil a 42" bar .

Last thing rebuild the carb .I couldn't believe it in all my junk I could not find a Tilley HS rebuild kit .Off to flea bay again -------
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Post by: Cut4fun . on October 13, 2015, 06:50:39 pm
PP365  on #1 bench. Came back with weird idling issue.  Gave the new owner the 3500 even exchange.  Going to swap a carb to see if I am guessing right.  Was no issue when used last on the hills cutting pines.  Been setting since.

6700  on #3   bench taking down to do the carb swap back. Pulling 8000 carb and went through 6700 carb to go back in. Kit in 6700 looked great. Just needed cleaning.



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Post by: Moparmyway on October 13, 2015, 09:09:59 pm
I took a couple of pics today of the MS 460.  I got the muff mod finished up and saw tuned.
I ran it in some wood today as you can there in the picture.  Ash

All I can say Adam is that it was worth every penny.  Very nice running saw.


If you dont mind, I aim to copy your awesome looking idea, except weld up the clutch side opening and make the same exits out the flywheel side for stumping

Are those 1/2" copper elbows
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Post by: aclarke on October 13, 2015, 10:52:36 pm
AL, post a pic of that p1000 if you get a chance...
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Post by: 3000 FPS on October 13, 2015, 11:25:13 pm
I took a couple of pics today of the MS 460.  I got the muff mod finished up and saw tuned.
I ran it in some wood today as you can there in the picture.  Ash

All I can say Adam is that it was worth every penny.  Very nice running saw.


If you dont mind, I aim to copy your awesome looking idea, except weld up the clutch side opening and make the same exits out the flywheel side for stumping

Are those 1/2" copper elbows

That is half inch EMT that I bent to 90* and then cut the mate side of the pipe open a quarter of an inch and then welded the two together with a Tig and then used my flex shaft and a round burr to smooth it out.   I have done them with the pipe side by side and also with one on top of the other.   It just depends on the muffler and now much room there is for the welding.

On the 460 with the pipe being side by side I left all the internal places of the muffler for the spark arrester to still slide in place.
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Post by: 3000 FPS on October 13, 2015, 11:28:46 pm
Hey Mopar post a pic when you get it done.
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Post by: Moparmyway on October 14, 2015, 06:33:58 am
I took a couple of pics today of the MS 460.  I got the muff mod finished up and saw tuned.
I ran it in some wood today as you can there in the picture.  Ash

All I can say Adam is that it was worth every penny.  Very nice running saw.


If you dont mind, I aim to copy your awesome looking idea, except weld up the clutch side opening and make the same exits out the flywheel side for stumping

Are those 1/2" copper elbows

That is half inch EMT that I bent to 90* and then cut the mate side of the pipe open a quarter of an inch and then welded the two together with a Tig and then used my flex shaft and a round burr to smooth it out.   I have done them with the pipe side by side and also with one on top of the other.   It just depends on the muffler and now much room there is for the welding.

On the 460 with the pipe being side by side I left all the internal places of the muffler for the spark arrester to still slide in place.
What did you use to cut the 1/4" .......... cutoff wheel ?
Appreciate the details ......... it certainly was not a fast job to do, and it looks perfect !

Hey Mopar post a pic when you get it done.
I certainly will Sir. Just waiting on the extra muffler, then I should have some time for playing after Thanksgiving to get to it.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 14, 2015, 08:14:32 pm
PP365  on #1 bench. Came back with weird idling issue.  Gave the new owner the 3500 even exchange.  Going to swap a carb to see if I am guessing right.  Was no issue when used last on the hills cutting pines.  Been setting since.

6700  on #3   bench taking down to do the carb swap back. Pulling 8000 carb and went through 6700 carb to go back in. Kit in 6700 looked great. Just needed cleaning.





365 seemed to be carb issue  (swapped carb) and clutch spring (swapped clutches) .  Put almost 2 tanks through it testing and tuning as I checked stuff.  20" 3/8 buried most times
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 14, 2015, 09:58:21 pm
Mopar I did use a cut off wheel on a hand grinder.   I buy those cheap hand grinders from Habor Freight when they are on sale.   Then I put a different wheel on each one of them so I do not have to change them.

Dewalt makes those cutoff wheels that are around .045" wide.  They make a nice thin cut in the metal.

Yes it is a time consuming project but it is strong and looks half way decent.l
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Moparmyway on October 15, 2015, 06:20:48 am
Mopar I did use a cut off wheel on a hand grinder.   I buy those cheap hand grinders from Habor Freight when they are on sale.   Then I put a different wheel on each one of them so I do not have to change them.

Dewalt makes those cutoff wheels that are around .045" wide.  They make a nice thin cut in the metal.

Yes it is a time consuming project but it is strong and looks half way decent.l
It looks much better than 1/2 way decent !!

I have lots of those wheels - usually get 6 boxes every couple of months

With your picture and details, I have been churning and burning my noodle. I have an idea using your basic concept, but am working on the screen aspect.  I might need to get some thinner sheet though, I only have 10 and 12 gauge on hand
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 16, 2015, 09:35:56 pm
Worked on a husqvarna K960 concrete saw.   Unfortunately the main bearings are bad in it.   The saw would still run but I could wiggle the PTO side of the crank sideways to the case and it was starting to screech a little.    I pulled the plug and turned it by hand and could feel the roughness in it.   I do not think the customer will repair it.

Also worked on a echo cs670 if I remember right.   Compression was 50 psi and piston scored across the rings.   Customer wants to fix it so I will be doing a piston ring and cylinder on it.   Still cheaper than a new saw.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: aclarke on October 16, 2015, 10:01:49 pm
Those concrete saws have a hard life....
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 16, 2015, 10:36:29 pm
Those concrete saws have a hard life....

They sure do.   I get them in all the time to be worked on.   I have done Stihl, Wacker Nueson, Husqvarna, Homelite, Partner, and there was one other I cannot remember the name of right now.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 22, 2015, 05:52:40 pm
stihl 440, 311 and a husky 36 dropped of today.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Al Smith on October 22, 2015, 06:46:27 pm
AL, post a pic of that p1000 if you get a chance...
It's in the works as soon as I get all the parts.

Now the continuing saga .I rebuilt the carb and fiddled with it until I got it to run pretty well. Fact real well .I'm not sure if it's got as much as an 066 Stihl or a 2100 Husky but it's enough .

The air filter is deflocked so I half-fast it with 80 micron screen .Have a filter from a p-70 Partner on the way which I think I can make work. 
Now the bar .A Mac 10 series will fit but the chain because the saw has an 8 tooth rim is a tad short .Probably work with a 7 tooth .81 drivers on a Mac 24" bar, needs one more .An 84 driver on a Mac bar is too long .Borrowed a 24" bar  from a Husky 281 which is 84 driver, works but also robbed a set of bar plates from a 2100 so it could get oil. Won't oil with the Mac plates on a Husky mount bar .
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 22, 2015, 07:10:34 pm
p1000 p100 air filter

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Genuine-McCulloch-Chainsaw-Pro-Mac-1000-Air-Filter-OR-Partner-P100-Chainsaw-/181314850062?hash=item2a37350d0e

http://www.ebay.com/itm/vintage-chainsaw-husqvarna-partner-mcculloch-p100-p-1000-filter-assy-p-n-32272-/252081267095?hash=item3ab136e197


member here in Ohio has this one Al.


McCulloch PM1000 Partner P100 Air filter 214696 NOS  $18.90

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Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Al Smith on October 22, 2015, 08:53:43 pm
I wish I'd have known about the last one .I'll have about 12-14 bucks in the P70 filter .With either one I'm going to have to do some modifications .

They look like they bolt up like a Stihl on studs with nuts that hold the carb .This thing has long screws and I doubt I have enough room to slip the carb over the left hand lower stud if I go that route .

There's a lot of things the designers could have done to make this thing more user friendly but they didn't .
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 22, 2015, 08:59:17 pm
I wish I'd have known about the last one .I'll have about 12-14 bucks in the P70 filter .With either one I'm going to have to do some modifications .

They look like they bolt up like a Stihl on studs with nuts that hold the carb .This thing has long screws and I doubt I have enough room to slip the carb over the left hand lower stud if I go that route .

There's a lot of things the designers could have done to make this thing more user friendly but they didn't .

Link to the last one sent in PM.
Title: Re: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 31, 2015, 09:42:55 pm
Just had 2 guys in dropping off a stihl 029 super and husqvarna 350.  9:30pm at night after deer hunting.

Dont get that service at the local dealer. ;)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dannyupsolate on November 06, 2015, 02:16:27 pm
poulan 3314 owner said it won't oil.  found melted chainbrake melted oiler most of it fused to saw body. putting his motor in another body now.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 06, 2015, 02:40:19 pm
Sound like it was ran with the chainbrake on.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dannyupsolate on November 06, 2015, 02:45:27 pm
seen that before but not to total meltdown like this one :o
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 06, 2015, 02:49:03 pm
seen that before but not to total meltdown like this one :o

That is because the owner of the saw is usually smart enouph to figure out what is going on, but once in awhile you get one that is just alittle slow on what that smell is.  Oh well.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dannyupsolate on November 06, 2015, 03:13:53 pm
 ;D had to put it new body old body melted so bad new oil pump would not fit in ;D
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 06, 2015, 03:56:27 pm
I got the ole Poulan 405 out the other day and no start.   Order a carb kit and put it in and back to running like a champ.  I did some noodling with it and that thing just makes me smile with the torque it has.  Plus it clears those long noodles like no body's business.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dannyupsolate on November 06, 2015, 04:08:58 pm
be glad when I know enough to work on the quality saws. trying to make all my dumb mistakes on the cheap saws.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 06, 2015, 09:05:36 pm
be glad when I know enough to work on the quality saws. trying to make all my dumb mistakes on the cheap saws.

Hey we all started just like you.   Just wait until the word gets out you know how to repair chainsaws.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dannyupsolate on November 06, 2015, 10:25:41 pm
it's starting got 3 stihls and a husqvarna to repair pretty good for a guy using a old beat up 12 by 60 mobile home or a shop. someday soon i might be able to afford a phone a car and a ugly woman ;D
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: aclarke on November 06, 2015, 10:38:16 pm
Hahahaha
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: jmester on November 07, 2015, 09:58:20 am
Got a few saws to sharpen. Ignition module for a 394 husqvarna. Finish a 026 build that I started a month ago. Wait on parts for a Stihl 361 with a broken tank handle. Wait on parts for a Stihl 192T with a broken top handle.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: mdavlee . on November 07, 2015, 10:50:39 am
372 xpw after the water heater is taken care of.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: aclarke on November 07, 2015, 12:00:40 pm
Got 11 years out if my last heater, replaced it 6 months ago. Drained water and to my dismay the thing was still brutally heavy with sediment/deposits.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: jmester on November 07, 2015, 12:04:53 pm
Do you have a water filter? Had some of the same problems with sediments. The water filter hurt pressure a little but has save a lot of headaches.

What does the 372xpw need?
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: mdavlee . on November 07, 2015, 03:35:31 pm
It was 18 years old. Time to change it.

Porting and assembly.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: aclarke on November 07, 2015, 10:08:05 pm
Jason , no filter. I'll research adding one.   Thanks for the idea


Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: jmester on November 07, 2015, 10:51:23 pm
I just got a cheap one just to get out the sediments. You can spend a lot on water filters that do all kinds of things. What made me do mine was all the sediments in the bath tub when giving the kids a bath. And the sediment would clog up the inlet screen in the washing machine and then the washer would shut down. Maybe it is because I have a stupid front load washer.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: aclarke on November 07, 2015, 11:01:59 pm
I'll try and find an online filter. Have issues with the dish washer as well.  Had to pull it apart completely and cleanable the orifices. The county I live in habe a big Diatomaceous earth mine and that's what is used as the purification medium for municipal water. The fines make it into the water supply and that's a big contributor for sediment...
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 08, 2015, 08:45:59 am
Got 11 years out if my last heater, replaced it 6 months ago. Drained water and to my dismay the thing was still brutally heavy with sediment/deposits.

My brother said he has had to put in 3 in the last 15-20 years.

I just checked my A.O. Smith one in basement as I was changing furnace filter and it was put there in 1995. The date is on the tank when installed.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 08, 2015, 08:48:13 am
Talking about sediments.  We have well water.  Used to get some black looking little very tiny  hard rock type things that would clog my washer plastic inlet filter and the metal screens in the faucets.

All better since putting in a whole house filter.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 08, 2015, 08:51:10 am
I also learned with the type of well water we had, using carbon steel  elements would only last 3-5 months but cost $5 each.  Switched to stainless steel and they have been in there 19 years and cost $25 each. 
Guess what I will use from now on. ;)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: mdavlee . on November 08, 2015, 12:20:04 pm
This one hopefully will last the rest of the time we live here.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Al Smith on November 08, 2015, 06:48:54 pm
I get about 7 years out of a water heater and about the same on a water softener .
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: RoyM on November 17, 2015, 08:11:34 pm
Back to saws. ;D I gave the old IEL HC a snort of gas, it actually fired and idled for a couple of seconds. Took a little dome scratching to figure out how to get at the carb. I had to remove the wrap handle in order to get the tank off. Then disconnect the oiler linkage so the whole rear handle assembly  would separate. There are two countersunk screws going in from the back that have to come out before the carb can be removed. An interesting design to say the least. The diaphragms were hard but surprisingly the body is good condition. Tillotson does not list it but found the DG-5HL kit will work.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 18, 2015, 05:29:41 pm
That is pretty cool.    You did not have to mess with points then.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: RoyM on November 19, 2015, 10:14:15 pm
I had to laugh. The old girl is missing a few items , the filter/shutoff assembly being the most notable, so I went scrounging at my friendly neighborhood saw dealer's scrap pile. Lo and behold I have another almost complete HC for parts. ;D I hope to have it barking tomorrow. This is fun.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 20, 2015, 12:31:14 pm
Had a little poulan (havent opened poulan case) dropped off today.    Guy brought it in from a deer camp and said had a local professional dealer  check it over and couldnt get it to start either.

I like the challenge.  ;D ;)

Man I will laugh if this was something so simple to see.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 20, 2015, 12:56:16 pm
Had a little poulan (havent opened poulan case) dropped off today.    Guy brought it in from a deer camp and said had a local professional dealer  check it over and couldnt get it to start either.

I like the challenge.  ;D ;)

Man I will laugh if this was something so simple to see.

It just makes you feel good fixing something for someone that others either could not figure out or did not want to take the time to figure out.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 20, 2015, 06:51:35 pm
Had a little poulan (havent opened poulan case) dropped off today.    Guy brought it in from a deer camp and said had a local professional dealer  check it over and couldnt get it to start either.

I like the challenge.  ;D ;)

Man I will laugh if this was something so simple to see.

It just makes you feel good fixing something for someone that others either could not figure out or did not want to take the time to figure out.

I peeked in the case before going out to eat. Looked like a brand new strato poulan 3314 in there
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on November 28, 2015, 12:42:45 am
the solo twin is back on the bench >:(

one cilinder wont pic up, it only wont to pic up at higher rev. but it has spark all the way spark plug net 225 from Beru

both cilinder puls 130 psi, gone split the crank case to see whats went wrong there, owner had it overhauld with new seals, but lots off screws i found where lose :o

Saul

finaly i hve now time to work on this twin,( head to much work to do doing 60"s in a week ::) )

i have to pull the clutch of and then the starter recoil

Saul
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 28, 2015, 12:53:30 pm
the solo twin is back on the bench >:(

one cilinder wont pic up, it only wont to pic up at higher rev. but it has spark all the way spark plug net 225 from Beru

both cilinder puls 130 psi, gone split the crank case to see whats went wrong there, owner had it overhauld with new seals, but lots off screws i found where lose :o

Saul

finaly i hve now time to work on this twin,( head to much work to do doing 60"s in a week ::) )

i have to pull the clutch of and then the starter recoil

Saul

60 hours a week does not leave much time for playing.  The twin will be worth it when done.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on November 29, 2015, 03:26:34 am
the solo twin is back on the bench >:(

one cilinder wont pic up, it only wont to pic up at higher rev. but it has spark all the way spark plug net 225 from Beru

both cilinder puls 130 psi, gone split the crank case to see whats went wrong there, owner had it overhauld with new seals, but lots off screws i found where lose :o

Saul

finaly i hve now time to work on this twin,( head to much work to do doing 60"s in a week ::) )

i have to pull the clutch of and then the starter recoil

Saul

60 hours a week does not leave much time for playing.  The twin will be worth it when done.
Right about that ;D, ordered for my self a new puller-set to get that clutch of ;)

Saul
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: jmester on November 29, 2015, 09:04:24 pm
Have a Husqvarna 580 BTS back back blower. Needs pto side bearing and a pto case half as the mounting ears are ****.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: weimedog on December 17, 2015, 08:32:42 am
A smashed MS391, a Dirty MS290, a tuned too rich MS460, A Husqvarna 51 with a rotted fuel line, A toasted 562 and a 372X-torq with a wasted clutch side main bearing. Another 562 getting that latest release of ignition/carb and wiring. A Dolmar 120 with what looks like a tank vent rotted. A bearings up rebuild on a 385, Then my fun Projects hopefully. "Cyclops II" & a tweaked MS660.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 17, 2015, 10:01:56 am
A smashed MS391, a Dirty MS290, a tuned too rich MS460, A Husqvarna 51 with a rotted fuel line, A toasted 562 and a 372X-torq with a wasted clutch side main bearing. Another 562 getting that latest release of ignition/carb and wiring. A Dolmar 120 with what looks like a tank vent rotted. A bearings up rebuild on a 385, Then my fun Projects hopefully. "Cyclops II" & a tweaked MS660.


You don't have enough to do.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: farmboy on December 17, 2015, 10:55:25 pm
2-346 OE doing AFM 44.3 PC on both.  1 needs clutch side seal which I don't have in stock, dont know about seals on the other.  Checked case screws on both they started tightening @ 3 nm.  I've started checking them on everything now.  2002 2159 Jred I just picked up started @ 4 nm.
Shep
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: jmester on December 17, 2015, 11:38:25 pm
The couple 346 I have worked on the lean running condition came from loose cylinder base screws.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: wild262 on December 31, 2015, 06:30:42 am
2-346 OE doing AFM 44.3 PC on both.  1 needs clutch side seal which I don't have in stock, dont know about seals on the other.  Checked case screws on both they started tightening @ 3 nm.  I've started checking them on everything now.  2002 2159 Jred I just picked up started @ 4 nm.
Shep
I've had the same issue with those screws loosing up as well with that line of saws. More so the plastic cased saws.  On new rebuilds I have been dabbing lock tight on the threads.  On the course threaded bolts of the 340-350 series and Jonny CS plastic cased series, I dab the lower half of the screw with lock tight and the upper half below the head with 1194 or dirko.  After checking the last 2 rebuilds, they seem to be staying tight.  Time will tell.  Just be sure to clean up & degrease the threads of the  screws and the slots (holes) before applying.  try this, it really helps. 
   As far as whats on my bench, a 268xp with carb. issues, a 345 Husky with loose intake collar, a Dolly 7900 waiting for a HD air cleaner kit, and a Husky 66 waiting for a restoration job.  LOL  Not enough to do  :D   Soon as this ice melts, got to get some green honey locust cut to mix with dry.  Can't wait. :(
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 31, 2015, 11:35:06 am
As far as whats on my bench, a 268xp with carb. issues,

Whats it doing?  I have a 268xp with 272 top I been chasing and now tore down on the bench.  Husky board 268 272 thread.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: mdavlee . on December 31, 2015, 01:49:08 pm
Getting ready to go grind on a 7900 cylinder. I did the 7910 last night.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: wild262 on December 31, 2015, 06:11:51 pm
As far as whats on my bench, a 268xp with carb. issues,

Whats it doing?  I have a 268xp with 272 top I been chasing and now tore down on the bench.  Husky board 268 272 thread.
Nothing major, I just put the wrong carb. on it by mistake.  Too many carbs on bench.  Went to adjust carb. and there was no idle screw.  put a 61 carb. on.  Get this fixed tomarrow and get it listed.  Just got an Echo 330T done.  Like running a whole new saw.  Unreal what a M. mod & intake mod. can do to these little saws.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on January 04, 2016, 03:21:34 pm
 ;D ;D
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Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on January 04, 2016, 03:26:53 pm
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Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on January 04, 2016, 03:31:16 pm
And a first start ;D ;D ;D ;D

https://youtu.be/ucqf7ZxBstc
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: mdavlee . on January 04, 2016, 04:26:07 pm
I assembled the 2165 case today. A little later I'll tear the 365/2165 mix down and put the tank on and be ready to run it.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 04, 2016, 06:13:50 pm
Nice Saul.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: aclarke on January 04, 2016, 09:37:59 pm
Neat project Saul, and a cool wife that keeps you company while you're wrenching on the kitchen table, I'm jealous!

Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on January 05, 2016, 01:46:42 am
Thanks guy's,

i know im verry lucky ;D :D
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on January 24, 2016, 05:16:06 am
today im in to Dolmar 118 super, got a box of parts came in by trade ;D

got tree runners now ;)

and some spare parts left
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: mdavlee . on January 24, 2016, 06:49:33 am
I've got a 365 cylinder on the bench. Going to finish grinding on it and then put it on the 365 case. Then maybe tear into the 2165 and see if there's something there that's just easily spotted. It hasn't made a cut yet. I don't know if the coil slipped or what. It will fire up but not stay running and not make rpm.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 660magnum on January 24, 2016, 08:37:24 am
Cut4fun had a 272 about a month back that reacted like your 2165. It showed decent compression but didn't run right on top end. It sort of like it wouldn't come out of four stroking? I had made a cut or two with the saw a few years ago and it run just like my 372's. He said it seemed as though the ring was fluttering when you gave it full throttle.

Bottom line is a new ring fixed it!

I happen to visit his shop after the fact and looked at the ring. At the position of the transfer on the PTO side there was severe rounding of the ring on the top side. There was noticeable rounding of the ring on the starter side transfer and at the exhaust. Then it was mentioned that the saw was a 268 with a after market 272 cylinder. The saw was back together and gone but I would have to assume that the ports in the cylinder were not beveled correctly, and in particular, the PTO side transfer. To look closely at this ring, besides the rounding at the PTO transfer, the ring was thinner at this position. The saw had been in firewood duty for some three years before it started running poorly.

Ten years ago, I repaired a model airplane engine that had been fitted with the polymid (Plastic Cage) main bearings. Both bearings had lost their cages which naturally went up through the engine. It didn't hurt the chromed cylinder but the ring's edges were rounded off. I replaced the bearings and the ring.

The morel to this story is - Look at the ring's seating area against the cylinder. The edges must be crisp and sharp. Unless of course, you have already put a new ring in it?
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: mdavlee . on January 24, 2016, 08:49:14 am
I'll look at it. It's apart using the bottom end for timing numbers. I have another tank on the way to put #3 together ported I hope on Monday or Tuesday. I want to keep one stock together.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: jmester on January 28, 2016, 02:59:23 pm
Finished up a Stihl 290/009 and a 200t. 290 need new crank seals,rings and some carb work. Also trued up the engine pan and cylinder. 200t and 009 need some carb work. All are running and tuned. Also had to fix a leaky 660 oil pump and replace a fuel tank on another 660. Still waiting on my heating element for my heated handle 660.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 28, 2016, 08:26:11 pm
The 660 sounds like it will be great with the heated handle.   I have never used one before and really do not know how well the work.

I worked on a MS362 and a MS460 today.   They both run good but have been beat up pretty good.   Going to the Stihl dealer tomorrow for parts.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: mdavlee . on January 29, 2016, 07:26:55 am
The heated handles on my 266 get warm enough that on a 40 degree day you need gloves to turn them on.

I have a 371/365 on my bench. Ported it last night. Going to run it today. I threw my muffler on it so I could test it and I'll get on modding his today sometime.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 660magnum on January 29, 2016, 07:43:02 am
I have a Dolmar 6800 with heated handles. They don't get hot enough to burn your hands but they do get warm if you turn them on.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Chris-PA on January 29, 2016, 10:15:24 am
The bench is covered in junk from several emergency repair projects (cars, trucks and tractors that broke).  And I wasn't going to do a chainsaw project this winter - but I'm bored. 

There's a decent 42cc Poulan engine on the shelf, and I just ordered a good carcass with a blown engine.  So it looks like I'm going to clear off the bench and come up with something else strange to do to a plastic Poulan for entertainment.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 29, 2016, 11:02:41 am
The bench is covered in junk from several emergency repair projects (cars, trucks and tractors that broke).  And I wasn't going to do a chainsaw project this winter - but I'm bored. 

There's a decent 42cc Poulan engine on the shelf, and I just ordered a good carcass with a blown engine.  So it looks like I'm going to clear off the bench and come up with something else strange to do to a plastic Poulan for entertainment.

I know that feeling.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 29, 2016, 11:04:05 am
The heated handles on my 266 get warm enough that on a 40 degree day you need gloves to turn them on.

I have a 371/365 on my bench. Ported it last night. Going to run it today. I threw my muffler on it so I could test it and I'll get on modding his today sometime.


That porting did not mean drop the cylinder and hope the numbers come out great did it.   Just a little humor or sarcasm however you want to put it.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: mdavlee . on January 29, 2016, 01:10:42 pm
Nope not quite. Lots of grinding on these to get the numbers back. Almost 10 on the exhaust and transfers.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 660magnum on January 29, 2016, 01:58:29 pm
I ran one of Mike's ported 576 saws a couple years ago. I thought it ran mighty good. I felt of the heat coming off the cylinder and the way it sounded. Appeared to be one you could run all day?
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: mdavlee . on January 29, 2016, 03:22:52 pm
The 576 was a work saw for sure. No compression increase on it at all.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 29, 2016, 06:56:41 pm
Was fixing a PM chain today. Could see where the cutter was filed down into the drive link before. 
After what I just had happen in the chain build off. I didnt want someone coming back on me saying I did it. So I cut and replaced the suspect parts. 

Never thought about that before coming back on me IF.  So inspecting folks chains now closer.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 29, 2016, 08:45:52 pm
Was fixing a PM chain today. Could see where the cutter was filed down into the drive link before. 
After what I just had happen in the chain build off. I didnt want someone coming back on me saying I did it. So I cut and replaced the suspect parts. 

Never thought about that before coming back on me IF.  So inspecting folks chains now closer.

I guess in the law suit happy society you have to CYA.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 29, 2016, 08:48:39 pm
Nope not quite. Lots of grinding on these to get the numbers back. Almost 10 on the exhaust and transfers.

Sounds like a lot of work and a real port job to me.   Like shaping, blow down, RPM's and flow.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Philbert on January 29, 2016, 10:39:39 pm
So inspecting folks chains now closer.
I always clean/degrease used chains I get to inspect for damage.

Posted a bunch of photos in my 'Challenge Chain' thread on that other site.  I have seen:
- upside down tie straps;
- inside out tie straps:
- low profile tie straps used on full sized 3/8 pitch chain;
- broken off parts;
- all kinds of cracks in different components;
- hand peened rivets that are almost flush with the tie strap, instead of 'mushroomed' over;
- 'buffet chains' (a few STIHL links, some Oregon parts, a few Windsor cutters, some other type of Oregon cutters, some low profile/some not,  . . . ;
- and my favorite - the Pop rivet!

Philbert
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 29, 2016, 10:44:55 pm
The Pop rivet really **** me up.   That is quite the list of crazy things people do to their chains.   I do not think I have ever come across anything like that.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Philbert on January 29, 2016, 11:24:32 pm
The Pop rivet really **** me up.
Have not see any backwards cutters . . .yet.

Philbert
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Philbert on January 29, 2016, 11:27:51 pm
Here's another classic.

Philbert
Title: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Tractorsaw1 on January 29, 2016, 11:50:28 pm
New bearings & used crank(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160130/23b097a96352bdcabbeff0650fa4eccc.jpg)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 30, 2016, 12:14:08 am
What are you working on.   Nice and clean.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: concretegrazer on January 30, 2016, 01:19:14 am
The Pop rivet really **** me up.
Have not see any backwards cutters . . .yet.

Philbert

Good grief.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: mdavlee . on January 30, 2016, 08:19:57 am
Nope not quite. Lots of grinding on these to get the numbers back. Almost 10 on the exhaust and transfers.

Sounds like a lot of work and a real port job to me.   Like shaping, blow down, RPM's and flow.

It turned out nice.
https://youtu.be/AuTbIE_jIa8
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on January 30, 2016, 08:59:08 am
The Pop rivet really **** me up.
Have not see any backwards cutters . . .yet.

Philbert

Good grief.

Woow :o :o :o what people do, and still find it strange when it go's wrong

Saul
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 660magnum on January 30, 2016, 09:18:34 am
I bought a new looking Husqvarna 350 for a real cheap price because it "wasn't any good". It came with two like new chains that were put together with 3/8" low profile presets but the chains were .325. The chains would not stay on the bar apparently because the driver links were all nicked up from jumping the bar. It took a couple hours to clean the driver links up and put new .325 presets on them. Worked fine after that.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 1990husky262 on January 30, 2016, 09:48:49 am
It always amazes me what people will "through" away.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 30, 2016, 11:11:52 am
Nope not quite. Lots of grinding on these to get the numbers back. Almost 10 on the exhaust and transfers.

Sounds like a lot of work and a real port job to me.   Like shaping, blow down, RPM's and flow.

It turned out nice.
https://youtu.be/AuTbIE_jIa8

Very Nice job Mike.   Sounds like it was holding the RPS's well and also looked to be pretty fast. 
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 30, 2016, 11:12:57 am
It always amazes me what people will "through" away.

I agree, but for some people a 2 cycle engine is a great mystery.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 30, 2016, 12:06:08 pm
Sounds sweeeeet Mike.  8)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: mdavlee . on January 30, 2016, 12:10:49 pm
I like it so much I may make the 2165 just like it today. Found my problem on it. Oiler drive came apart and got a tear in the seal. Got the parts to put it together now.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on January 31, 2016, 04:10:39 pm
 ;D ;D ;D ;D
https://youtu.be/Qp-Zmg9kz0Q
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on February 11, 2016, 04:25:00 am
Numer two ;D ;D ;D ::)

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Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on February 17, 2016, 01:13:50 am
Stihl BDKH ;D ;D

(http://up.picr.de/24615433sk.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/24615434gv.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/24615435rs.jpg)

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Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: pete on February 17, 2016, 01:57:40 am
Nice pics always enjoy looking at others workplaces like the doorbell anfd the young ladies aren't bad either
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on February 17, 2016, 03:48:58 am
Nice pics always enjoy looking at others workplaces like the doorbell anfd the young ladies aren't bad either

shoure is nice ;D ;D ;D

saul
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 17, 2016, 10:08:56 am
Nice pictures Saul.    Looks like a well equipped work shop.   
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dannyupsolate on February 17, 2016, 12:51:02 pm
took in a echo cs440 bad piston and cylinder looks like big bucks to fix. Don't think I can even offer any buy it for parts. He  also has a 041 av stihl got it to run with mix down carburetor it will need muffler  chain fuel lines and carburetor kit  so may run up pretty high bill.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on February 20, 2016, 02:47:41 am
mounted the carb.
(http://up.picr.de/24642875aj.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/24642876if.jpg)

time to go for a spark

(http://up.picr.de/24642877bv.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/24642878gr.jpg)

only number found on this war saw

(http://up.picr.de/24642879lf.jpg)

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(http://up.picr.de/24642881mq.jpg)

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then it was thea time

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Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on February 20, 2016, 02:55:14 am
Nice pictures Saul.    Looks like a well equipped work shop.   

its mine friends work shop ;D ;D

Will tel him you like it

Saul
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 20, 2016, 11:16:37 am
Nice pictures Saul.    Looks like a well equipped work shop.   

its mine friends work shop ;D ;D

Will tel him you like it

Saul

You have a good friend there.    So looks like your getting close to firing it up.    That coil looked so primitive compared to what is now used.   
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on February 20, 2016, 11:20:33 am
thats for shoure.

Here a video Watch out noisy  ;D

https://youtu.be/QyG9OhQd6l4
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 20, 2016, 11:25:18 am
I had to laugh because of the all the smoke.   So are you going to put a bar and chain on it and demonstrate it in some wood.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 1manband on February 20, 2016, 07:35:42 pm
saul..........good stuff as always. 

are those wooden safety shoes comfortable?

Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on February 21, 2016, 03:35:45 am
Hahaha :D :D me to, but a bar is not in mine possesion :'( :'(

will ask one in semtember at a show  ;D

saul
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 1manband on February 21, 2016, 09:50:42 am
go team orange!

the motor photos you post, is like going back in time.

have to go to your website again to see what is new.

regards
joe

Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on February 21, 2016, 01:05:22 pm
go team orange!

the motor photos you post, is like going back in time.

have to go to your website again to see what is new.

regards
joe

lots of things going on Joe,

fine you liked those pics.

best regards
saul
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 25, 2016, 02:58:44 pm
Hahaha :D :D me to, but a bar is not in mine possesion :'( :'(

will ask one in semtember at a show  ;D

saul

I think it is to high IMHO. Butttttttt here you go.  $150 and ship. 

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Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on February 26, 2016, 01:07:45 am
That's a good deal Kevin ;)

what saw should it fit to?

Saul
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 26, 2016, 04:21:05 pm
Not a clue. Owner dont know either. Look at at middle pic for numbers and bar mount.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 660magnum on February 26, 2016, 06:20:58 pm
Bow bars are easily adaptable to different saws as the mounting plate is mild steel and can be welded up and reshaped to fit your chainsaw power head.

If you make the slot parallel to the top rail you can get away with no modification to the clutch cover or PTO side of the saw.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on February 27, 2016, 05:47:56 am
+1
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on February 27, 2016, 03:00:10 pm
Did a old fasion repair on this Jonsereds XF

Saul

(http://up.picr.de/24720029ec.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/24720030vp.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/24720031nz.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/24720032ej.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/24720033fe.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/24720034hf.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/24720035rn.jpg)

Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 27, 2016, 08:05:32 pm
Nice thinking there Saul.

Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on February 28, 2016, 05:24:43 am
Thanks ;D ;D

Saul
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on March 06, 2016, 04:04:07 am
Worked yesterday on making the emhausts for the Stihl BDKH

pics will follow ;)

saul
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on March 06, 2016, 04:13:51 am
here in raw state

Worked yesterday on making the exhausts for the Stihl BDKH

(http://up.picr.de/24790525zs.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/24790528yf.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/24790529od.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/24790530wv.jpg)

this what im making

Saul

(http://up.picr.de/24790531rr.jpg)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 06, 2016, 06:16:20 pm
These were all just offered to me. Only see a few I would want to mess with fixing to flip.

Anyone see anything you want me to ask about?
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 06, 2016, 09:41:00 pm
Thanks Kevin for the offer.   I do not see anything myself that I cannot live with out.   
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on March 07, 2016, 04:42:43 am
Thanks Kevin,

mine work go's on ;D

(http://up.picr.de/24802850mc.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/24802848nk.jpg)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 07, 2016, 10:26:09 am
Looks good Saul. 
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun on March 07, 2016, 12:12:17 pm
Was offered a deal that could put alot of stihls across my bench for repairs.

Friend took a job over the winter as a head maintenance over a gated private community.  He said they have a contract with a local dealer for their stihls, OPE and zero turn mowers etc.

Told me the grounds crews use a saw till it wont start anymore and just buy another saw. The way he talked there is a pile of them just setting with unknown issues. 
He ask me if I would be interested in going through them for him and getting estimates on what can be saved  8). Reason is he is not to fond of the dealers work and their repairs they have done already on other things.

Told him sure. He said he just has to get approved from the next man up the chain now.

I just wonder what stihls they would be using. If like the ones like I see the state buys for the farm it would be the clamshells.  :'(
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on March 07, 2016, 12:16:28 pm
Interesting :o

Saul
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun on March 07, 2016, 12:18:03 pm
here in raw state

Worked yesterday on making the exhausts for the Stihl BDKH

this what im making

Saul



Looks great and nice to build your own parts too.

I envy you guys that can weld.   
Least I have a nephew that welds now. He got hired already (welding fork lift bodies etc)  by a company and he isnt even graduated HS yet. 
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on March 07, 2016, 12:21:52 pm
Goed welders are hard to find indeed.

i did a lot of welding in mine life on cars and
constructions

Saul
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 07, 2016, 02:19:44 pm
Was offered a deal that could put alot of stihls across my bench for repairs.

Friend took a job over the winter as a head maintenance over a gated private community.  He said they have a contract with a local dealer for their stihls, OPE and zero turn mowers etc.

Told me the grounds crews use a saw till it wont start anymore and just buy another saw. The way he talked there is a pile of them just setting with unknown issues. 
He ask me if I would be interested in going through them for him and getting estimates on what can be saved  8). Reason is he is not to fond of the dealers work and their repairs they have done already on other things.

Told him sure. He said he just has to get approved from the next man up the chain now.

I just wonder what stihls they would be using. If like the ones like I see the state buys for the farm it would be the clamshells.  :'(

Sounds like a great opportunity to me that you have there.     I hope it works out for you to make some extra cash.


I have started doing a little more work for a tree service guy in Cheyenne and he just dropped off 20 chains for sharpening.   Easy money.   I also got another Stihl 460 from him that he gave me because of a scored piston and cylinder.   So that will be another keeper.    I will port it when I have it apart and that does not mean dropping a cylinder as some people think.   
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on March 09, 2016, 04:02:43 pm
Found a selution for mine Solo twin problem

(http://up.picr.de/24826192oq.jpg)

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Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 09, 2016, 04:03:02 pm
Finished the XL-12 and going back to the 702EVL. Still have 6 chains to sharpen.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on March 09, 2016, 04:04:18 pm
https://youtu.be/fRslGHw7Rb8
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on March 09, 2016, 04:05:42 pm
Finished the XL-12 and going back to the 702EVL. Still have 6 chains to sharpen.

lots to do .

like wise here ;D

saul
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 09, 2016, 05:28:04 pm
702 evl done

Going to sell. Stop switch still not working. But I found a new used muffler. All in the 702 thread.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2002envoy/echo702muffler%20010_zpsz3ewupza.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/2002envoy/echo702muffler%20010_zpsz3ewupza.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on March 10, 2016, 02:10:16 am
Nice Echo, had one  my self, its a strong runner

saul
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on March 11, 2016, 04:34:03 am
the lower bracket repair  of the Solo twin

(http://up.picr.de/24836833le.jpg)

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Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on March 11, 2016, 11:26:30 am
 :-* :-*

(http://up.picr.de/24839641hm.jpg)

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Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 11, 2016, 01:48:39 pm
Watching a learning new tricks.  :P ;D 8)

(http://i.imgur.com/kw7NBmZ.gif?1)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 1manband on March 11, 2016, 07:15:49 pm
way cool work on cool saw.

amazes me how smooth and easy pull starting these saws are.
<edit> remembered i ran lee's echo twin, and scotts/steves kms same ......somehow combined the two into one failed memory. hahaha.

Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 11, 2016, 07:32:49 pm
The Solo is a great looking saw.    Nice job on it Saul.

I worked on my MS460 a little today.   Put a new chain brake handle on it and ordered a new clutch drum and bearing for it.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on March 12, 2016, 03:33:42 am
Thanks gents, makes me blush(http://up.picr.de/21143418uf.gif)

i find it imported to share this so other people can repair thairs to

Saul(http://up.picr.de/21143425sz.gif)(http://up.picr.de/21143425sz.gif)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on March 12, 2016, 03:40:45 am
here mine drawing of one of the repairs on the Solo twin(http://up.picr.de/21143432zc.gif)

(http://up.picr.de/24844732ei.png)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 16, 2016, 07:34:45 pm
Hahaha :D :D me to, but a bar is not in mine possesion :'( :'(

will ask one in semtember at a show  ;D

saul


I think it is to high IMHO. Butttttttt here you go.  $150 and ship. 

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Seems to be a misunderstanding I do not have or sell bow bars. Jim has a few he has showed here for his own use.

This bow bar was for sale by another party. Not by me. I only find them and let folks looking know about them. I will not buy one without given a OK and $ in a PM. As I have no use for them and wont buy just to have on my shelf.

I have no problem getting them if given the OK and $.
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Post by: 3000 FPS on March 16, 2016, 09:42:38 pm
I worked on a Husky 240 today that I swear had a fuel problem.   But through a process of elimination and scratching my head a lot I decided to replace the coil.  Bingo the coil was the culprit.   The saw would start and run for about 15 seconds and shut off.  You could pull the rope right away and it would do the same thing.   Never seen a coil do that before.  I put on a new coil and it ran great afterwards.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 17, 2016, 12:21:41 pm
I worked on a Husky 240 today that I swear had a fuel problem.   But through a process of elimination and scratching my head a lot I decided to replace the coil.  Bingo the coil was the culprit.   The saw would start and run for about 15 seconds and shut off.  You could pull the rope right away and it would do the same thing.   Never seen a coil do that before.  I put on a new coil and it ran great afterwards.

That would be a good one to have in the brand section under husqvarna 240 coil. I never heard of one that way either.
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Post by: 3000 FPS on March 17, 2016, 03:49:58 pm
Ok I will copy it and move it over there under Husqvarna.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 19, 2016, 04:33:23 pm
I installed new crank seals in my recent Stihl MS460 that I got.  So far I have replaced the brake handle, crank seals, clutch drum and bearing, new rim, new air filter, air filter cover, and new springs in the clutch.  I will still need a new piston and rings and maybe the cylinder.  I still have to pull the cylinder off and see how bad it is.
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Post by: dutchsawdoctor on March 20, 2016, 04:42:53 pm
 ;D ;D ;D



(http://up.picr.de/24926507pf.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/24926506oj.jpg)

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(http://up.picr.de/24926521xd.jpg)

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(http://up.picr.de/24935740kt.jpg)

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Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 02, 2016, 09:06:16 pm
Nice Saul.   You must have a nice collection of old saws now.
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Post by: dutchsawdoctor on April 03, 2016, 02:51:02 am
Thanks ser, yes i have some nice saws(http://up.picr.de/21143425sz.gif)

saul
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Post by: 3000 FPS on April 03, 2016, 02:23:49 pm
Finished the Husqvarna K960 and will sharpen a few chains today.    A pic of part of my shop and a few of the saws.

Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on April 04, 2016, 02:46:39 am
Nice workshop you made your self(http://up.picr.de/21143409aa.gif)

Saul
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Post by: aclarke on April 04, 2016, 09:14:14 am
Saul, I've never seen an 090 with a stamped steel muffler, is that oem?
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 04, 2016, 09:36:31 am
Nice workshop you made your self(http://up.picr.de/21143409aa.gif)

Saul

No I did not build.   It is a all steel building I had built about 15 years ago.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on April 05, 2016, 08:14:07 am
Nice workshop you made your self(http://up.picr.de/21143409aa.gif)

Saul

No I did not build.   It is a all steel building I had built about 15 years ago.

i ment the great space you have there :D :D

saul
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 08, 2016, 08:22:29 pm
Couple friends from work over with saws. Brew was flowing but the work got done.

272 with bent bar and fubarred chain. 702 just needed 2 drive links taken out and carb adjusted to new owners mix.  353 chain sharpened.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on April 09, 2016, 11:33:49 am
sounds like good time send with your friends

Saul
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Post by: dutchsawdoctor on April 24, 2016, 01:52:38 am
Got a Ridgid (Poulan 306A ) on the bench

(http://up.picr.de/25309702uo.jpg)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on April 24, 2016, 10:33:55 am
http://youtu.be/4VJOf3IdHew
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Post by: chy_farm on April 28, 2016, 10:50:50 am
Hi Saul nice to meet you here!
She sounds very nicely.
Chy
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 28, 2016, 02:11:21 pm
Hi Saul nice to meet you here!
She sounds very nicely.
Chy

Hey Chy are you a wood cutter, collector,  like to restore old saws.    Do you burn fire wood.     Welcome.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Revpop on April 28, 2016, 05:35:09 pm
I am fiddling around with the 18" Husqvarna bar for Craftsman version of the Poulan 5020 chainsaw power head.  The slot seems tight but will mount with a press fit.  I do not have the 18" 3/8" chain that came with this Husqvarna Rancher 55 take off bar, or least can't remember where I put it years ago.  I modeled with the D70 20" chain for fit up purposes only but not starting or running it as is until the proper chain is obtained and installed, I think 66 DL or something like that if I remember correctly.

Additional score- I found a small tub full of McCulloch BP-1 chainsaw power head fairings and body covers for BP-1 saw #2 I had forgot I had that I had shelved many years ago when I inherited the saws while still on active duty in the US Navy.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 28, 2016, 05:42:40 pm
Put a file to that slot and open it up a little.  Also the bar should say on it how many DL it will take.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: chy_farm on April 28, 2016, 11:11:12 pm
>Hey Chy are you a wood cutter, collector,  like to restore old saws.    Do you burn fire wood.     Welcome.

Hello, may be a small collector and like to restore/tinker old saws, but do not burn them though.

Now going through a project on my Echo CS-651T, an old twin at the Chainsaw Collectors Forum.
http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/echo/echo-651-twin/msg71045/#msg71045

Thanks.

Chy

Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Revpop on April 29, 2016, 12:36:38 pm
Put a file to that slot and open it up a little.  Also the bar should say on it how many DL it will take.

Was at work, got home and verified the bar has on it is 68DL.  Yes the bar slot is a little tight on the grip length or stud shank and should be filed slightly.  New chain is on the way.  Thanks.
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Post by: Cut4fun on April 29, 2016, 12:56:47 pm
Put a file to that slot and open it up a little.  Also the bar should say on it how many DL it will take.

Was at work, got home and verified the bar has on it is 68DL.  Yes the bar slot is a little tight on the grip length or stud shank and should be filed slightly.  New chain is on the way.  Thanks.

Not much different in length. 68DL v/s 70DL   I would drop down to a 60DL in 3/8
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Post by: Eccentric on May 14, 2016, 06:20:52 pm
Not much different in length. 68DL v/s 70DL   I would drop down to a 60DL in 3/8

Yep, on saws that take 70DL on their 20" called length bars, 64DL is 'standard' for 18" length called length.  Interestingly,  60DL (sometimes 59DL) is 'standard' for 16" called length bars on those saws (like it is on the Husky/Stihl 16" called length bars).
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Post by: dutchsawdoctor on May 28, 2016, 02:23:06 am
Had a contra S in for repair ;D
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: mdavlee . on May 28, 2016, 07:16:44 am
I've got a 365 sitting on there now. Going to see if I have all the parts to assemble it. I put a 372 top end on one last night and put it back together. Then I may tear into the 650/660 and port a cylinder or 2 for it. 3120 is waiting on a piston and throttle cable along with the 394. Got to put stihl bar studs in the 3120 since the holes are too loose to hold the studs in without falling back into the oil tank.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 28, 2016, 11:22:36 am
All chainsaw projects have been shelved. If they were my own.  Just no time to fiddle with my own projects.

Wife informed me both mini tillers were leaking fuel and no start. 

2 mini tillers yesterday readied for flower beds.  Both just needing return lines.  1 broke off at tank other just ****. Coudnt see the crack  till pushing on primer then it shows up.

Like the nice easy fixes.  ;D
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Post by: Cut4fun . on May 31, 2016, 09:49:13 am
Craftsman mini tiller had me chasing my tail yesterday.  In the end it got a new plug. 
Cant believe I didnt try that before hand. But I had just changed some **** fuel lines and thought I had messed the tune on carb. So then I changed fuel filter. Tuned more. Tested to check coil. Then ate lunch and it cooled back down. Started acting up again when I tried to use it again. So changed plug and bingo. Root of the problem.

It is blipping out c r a cked.  ::)
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Post by: dutchsawdoctor on May 31, 2016, 02:12:28 pm
 ;D yeh... some time.......... ::)
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Post by: chy_farm on June 06, 2016, 10:33:40 am
Partner R12 has a couple of interesting reeds.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on June 07, 2016, 05:06:45 am
Nice look inside a R12 my friend
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: chy_farm on June 08, 2016, 09:20:55 am
Hi my friend!
I had have long been wanting to get her, R12, for years but she seldom comes up to this market.  One thing amazed me was that her fuel system uses capillary movement! which is not at all used in other models in my collection. Do you know some other specimen which has capillary fuel system?
 
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on June 09, 2016, 04:12:59 am
what pups up is homelite ( some types ) and dolpima
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: chy_farm on June 09, 2016, 09:45:25 am
Dolpima seems to have somewhat close structure to R12, doesn't it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU4GV6MyzJE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU4GV6MyzJE)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on June 09, 2016, 10:15:18 am
its in fact a copy of the R12 my friend ;)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: chy_farm on June 09, 2016, 10:49:28 am
What!!  :o
But makes sense now.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 18, 2016, 11:36:10 pm
Today MS440, Poulan 2700, Poulan 4218, Homelite trimmer, Mac trimmer, chemical sprayer and she was hot in the 90's. 
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Post by: chy_farm on July 09, 2016, 09:02:17 am
Cylinder under cover for Echo CS-651 TWIN is on the deck with double tuned pipes.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on July 09, 2016, 11:35:32 am
Someone did a lot of welding.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on July 09, 2016, 03:53:30 pm
Nice graftmanship my friend Love it

Saul
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Post by: chy_farm on July 10, 2016, 01:50:00 am
Thanks Nitro and Saul.

This morning I fabricated a new front cover for her, since the original one has been got a tiny crack on around the bolt hole. This new one is made also of a 0.8mm steel sheet.

Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 10, 2016, 10:05:24 am
Dolpima seems to have somewhat close structure to R12, doesn't it.



Never seen that name before. Trying to learn. Now I see why.

Dolpima

MANUFACTURED BY: DOLPIMA WARSAW, POLAND SERIES

http://www.acresinternet.com/cscc.nsf/ed1d619968136da688256af40002b8f7/0364897f774f865d88257b9d000e6a44?OpenDocument
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Post by: chy_farm on July 12, 2016, 05:20:31 am
A new wrap handle made which is one inch higher than the original.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on July 12, 2016, 03:56:14 pm
Oooo... nice job

almost time for a rest run?
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: chy_farm on July 15, 2016, 06:48:43 am
A little more to test run Saul, thanks. Have to do painting for her, but I do not like this job, lol.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on July 15, 2016, 12:35:22 pm
Will fallow your Work my friend ;)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: chy_farm on August 21, 2016, 11:19:38 am
Sorry to say I am now mixed up with new project on my job, which is unfortunately not about saws  :'( :'(. But always wanting to tinker her on my bench, she is still sitting there waiting me to come to her!!
Chy
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Post by: jmester on August 21, 2016, 03:31:23 pm
Worked on finishing up a screw cap 046. Had the case powder coated. Looks pretty good. Did some round filing and square filed a chain yesterday for work. We are starting a poplar job Monday. So I thought let's give the square file a go and throw some big chips. Plus I need some more practice for the chain build off later in the year.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Revpop on September 06, 2016, 08:44:06 pm
New to me Poulan 3800 I acquired off of CL yesterday.  Price wasn't too bad and seems to start, run, and oils the chain well and is pretty good shape.  In my opinion if the decals are legible, it's in VG shape.  I will need to break it down and see how the fuel lines are, air filter looks like clean OEM Gray color, and though it came with two chains it has what looks like the original chain installed that has the anti-kickback depth rakers on both sides of the rails.  It has been years since I've seen one of those factory installed safety chains.  Plan on  changing out the chain, grease the drum bearing, grease bar tip and should be ready. 
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on September 06, 2016, 10:10:33 pm
Nice old saw there RevPop.   The Countervibes make great saws and are easy to work on and maintain.    They are some of my favorite Poulans.

That is pretty cool that you even have the operators manual.   
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Revpop on September 06, 2016, 10:37:45 pm
Ha Ha, the owner's manual says do not throw away!  I guess the previous owner listened...
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: chy_farm on September 07, 2016, 07:54:59 am
Nice to see an old Poulan, want to see video!
Chy
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Post by: Revpop on September 07, 2016, 11:13:33 am
Will need to set up a YouTube account as I am a Noob to posting videos.  I looked but only see a couple videos of the 3800 and one is Cut-n-for-fun's video I think done for sale and one other guy's 3800 sawing a log test.  Lots of 3400 videos.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 07, 2016, 12:32:56 pm
Poulan 3800 in baseball bat type hard dried ash. 3/8 chain LGX I think. Tested 3 saws that day with same new chain. Not sharpened new dull out of box loop.

3800 and echo 6700 are on same playing field IMO of the 3 tested.

@chy_farm

https://youtu.be/5TIMNNv5BEQ

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Post by: chy_farm on September 08, 2016, 07:34:58 am
Thanks, nice cuts.
Chy
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on September 08, 2016, 08:11:51 am
Nice runner/cutter ;)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: mdavlee . on September 08, 2016, 03:26:03 pm
I've got these on the bench. Got to cut squish on them next.(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160908/08140ffd9c1aaf5403a3fa76efb9ae0d.jpg)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 08, 2016, 03:29:58 pm
I've got these on the bench. Got to cut squish on them next.

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160908/08140ffd9c1aaf5403a3fa76efb9ae0d.jpg)

Looks like a 2083 54mm saw on left in red.  Yours?
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 08, 2016, 03:34:20 pm
I cant make the 3450's go away from bench #2 on their own.   :'(  Just cant get into doing another one right now just to sell.  :-X


3450's can be seen on #2 behind the 3.3 335 on cant.










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Post by: mdavlee . on September 08, 2016, 09:14:40 pm
I've got these on the bench. Got to cut squish on them next.

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160908/08140ffd9c1aaf5403a3fa76efb9ae0d.jpg)

Looks like a 2083 54mm saw on left in red.  Yours?
My buddies. Starter needs some work.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Revpop on September 10, 2016, 11:26:09 am
Nice old saw there RevPop.   The Countervibes make great saws and are easy to work on and maintain.    They are some of my favorite Poulans.

That is pretty cool that you even have the operators manual.

One of the things that made me scratch my head and then had to verify in the owner's manual, which provided a very detailed illustration of components installation/orientation is how the bar and chain is oiled.  Rather than through the bar adjusting hole and through to the bottom of the chain and into the bar groove from beneath this setup seems to simply dump or mist the chain at a point between the bar clamp plates, where the setup seems to drizzle oil onto top of the chain from the powerhead side only.  I was wondering if anyone has had any issues with inadequate bar lubrication in this series of chainsaw? -Revpop       
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 07, 2016, 10:40:28 pm
So this is a Stihl 090 all original and not in bad shape.    It does not belong to me but I was asked to look at it and get it running.   It has a 20" hard nose bar and .404 chain semichisel on it.   I have it running pretty good now and I sharpened the chain but I think I will drop the rakers a little lower to make it cut faster.   This thing is a beast and weighs a ton.   It does not have any antivibe that I can see and vibrates your hands like crazy.

According to Acres 137cc.

Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 07, 2016, 10:44:39 pm
Nice.  I went over and did some cutting for Jim today. Saws in action board.

Got a few to set on the bench when I unload. In the poulan board.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 07, 2016, 10:53:30 pm
This saw I got for free for fixing the Stihl 090.   This is a Jonsered 801 and is 80cc.   I was told it had no spark when given to me.   I found the kill switch was bad and shorting to ground all the time.   It wreaked of bad fuel and the carburetor is going to have to be rebuilt on it.   It has a tillotson.
I did prime it through the carb and it fired so I think it will be a good runner.   I need to get a different bar and chain for it.

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Post by: mdavlee . on October 07, 2016, 11:46:11 pm
That's a nice 801. Glad it was an easy fix.
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Post by: 3000 FPS on October 08, 2016, 10:09:39 am
That's a nice 801. Glad it was an easy fix.

It should make a good saw.   I noticed also the antivibe in some spots are pretty loose.    I have not taken the antivibe apart yet to see what rubber parts are worn out.   
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 08, 2016, 04:46:16 pm
Roger please make sure to put your 090 801 projects in the brand boards so others can see your info and how to's etc.
Stuff gets buried here in this board  like other places.

Thanks
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Post by: chy_farm on October 09, 2016, 10:48:25 am
Love to see this type of Jons.
Chy
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: chy_farm on October 09, 2016, 11:00:52 am
Did not have much time to finish the Twin's pipes, but today did some works around the defuser part for final welding.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 09, 2016, 12:39:04 pm
Craziness. I like your thinking outside of the box.   8)

Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 09, 2016, 04:43:47 pm
Checking them over between football games.  Yellow is a runner too. So 3 for 3 and all oil.

pic

(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6125.0;attach=19205;image)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: chy_farm on October 09, 2016, 07:57:26 pm
Gave it a pressure test, had some bad seams from which a little amount of air came out. After covering welding no air leakage from the seams so far.
Chy
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on November 12, 2016, 05:30:47 am
This saw I got for free for fixing the Stihl 090.   This is a Jonsered 801 and is 80cc.   I was told it had no spark when given to me.   I found the kill switch was bad and shorting to ground all the time.   It wreaked of bad fuel and the carburetor is going to have to be rebuilt on it.   It has a tillotson.
I did prime it through the carb and it fired so I think it will be a good runner.   I need to get a different bar and chain for it.

thay's a great catch for repair work :o :o

i have the 80 in mine collection
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on November 12, 2016, 05:38:08 am
i repaired this nice puppy

(http://up.picr.de/27410711pc.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/27410712zn.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/27410713ub.jpg)



https://youtu.be/JNxghjuJ-6E
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun on November 15, 2016, 10:59:41 am
Had a regular show up with 272 353 about 330. We drink tall boys while I worked and shot the **** for 2hrs.  272 he said him and his 28 year old son couldnt get started. Tried for hour. 
Everything checked out coil wise using that new newfangled spark analyzer. Dumped fuel and all looked good tank to carb. I know carb kits is new. Pulled plug not flooded and is new too. Checked psi etc.  Couldnt see nothing to stop it from starting.
Put on ground, set fast idle, set choke 2nd pull it popped.  I smiled at owner. He said we couldnt even get a pop. Turned off choke fired her up. Big smile and he was embarrassed.  Saw checked out running too.

353 he said bar was flopping around when he was cutting and noticed he lost both bar nuts (but found 1) stop cutting. Said he though bar bent. It all checked out.
Put bar chain back on gave a extra nut in bag to carry with his stuff. Test cut with all fine.

2hrs later lot of laughing and drinking brew = priceless

When he ask me cost for my time and nuts. = Told him no charge for my time. Told him we will make it up someday on real work.

I just enjoyed starting the saw for him and if he needs me to show up to the woods to start his saw let me know. ;)

PS: he did bring the tall boys. I told him from now on while 12 dogs of Christmas is being sold to bring that with him instead of that cheap beer from now on. ;)

PSS: remember those 325 chain build off work chains I did for fun. This guy ended up with them. He said I dont know what you did to those chains but I want you to keep doing it.  ;D

Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 15, 2016, 08:25:22 pm
Yay MS290  ::)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: chy_farm on November 18, 2016, 07:12:03 am
An old Echo, CS-803 EVL. came the day before yesterday to me with a lot of dirt, oily pitch on her. She came from mechanic section of our farmers union from where where one another 803 has came to me this spring.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Al Smith on November 21, 2016, 05:28:02 am
It isn't on the bench yet but I have Partner P100 super in transit .I bought it as a parts saw missing some parts,which I also have enroute .Says it's hung which could be anything not necessarily a hung piston .

You never never know when you buy a pig in a poke,might work out or just be parts .Worst case is a piston and cylinder which isn't that much .
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on November 21, 2016, 05:41:56 am
i have a pre Solo Rex on the bench ;D

https://youtu.be/PGqe4zLo9N8
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: chy_farm on November 21, 2016, 07:56:26 am
Fun to see and listen to an old Solo making a good sound my friend, she idles very nicely.
Chy
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on November 21, 2016, 08:53:26 am
Fun to see and listen to an old Solo making a good sound my friend, she idles very nicely.
Chy

thanks

its has a strong engine ;)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Al Smith on November 21, 2016, 08:35:02 pm
The big Partner came today.it's stuck alright .I think this one is going to pickle about a month in a bucket full of kerosene before I even try to anything with it .
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on November 22, 2016, 12:40:26 am
The big Partner came today.it's stuck alright .I think this one is going to pickle about a month in a bucket full of kerosene before I even try to anything with it .

oooow...that bad ::)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: chy_farm on November 22, 2016, 05:59:40 am
Not on my bench, but on dining table are the twin pipes for Echo 651T, this morning gave them some brush up and paint. Will post some pics later.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on November 22, 2016, 06:36:27 am
(http://up.picr.de/27505080rn.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/27505081sc.jpg)

(http://up.picr.de/27505082br.jpg)


here you go  ;D ;D
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Post by: chy_farm on November 22, 2016, 07:50:32 am
Wow, thanks Saul!! That's it!
Chy
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Al Smith on November 22, 2016, 08:04:27 pm
That stuck saw I've never seen one I couldn't shake loose .Worse case is knock the center out of a spark plug then weld a 1/4" or 1/8" pipe coupling in it,screw in a grease zerk and pump oil from a grease gun .The average grease gun is 5000 PSI .If the piston is up passed the exhaust and transfers it will either move or something will give out .
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: chy_farm on November 24, 2016, 04:40:15 am
That's a nice idea Al, want to have a look at some of the pics of your special tool.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: chy_farm on November 29, 2016, 07:46:13 pm
Echo 803 is being rebuilt now, made some repair to trigger stem, manual oiler, and decompression lever.
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Post by: chy_farm on November 29, 2016, 07:52:28 pm
This girl came to me as the third 803, the first one sits here by this newbie.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Efisher26 on November 29, 2016, 08:52:54 pm
The big Partner came today.it's stuck alright .I think this one is going to pickle about a month in a bucket full of kerosene before I even try to anything with it .
I had a homelite xl tophandle, the piston seized while stored in case. I took plug out and poured in mystery oil. Came loose next day. Any experience with mystery oil?


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Just a home owner that likes the older better made machines

Craftsman 3.7 x2
Husqvarna 36
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: fisaw on December 03, 2016, 06:22:05 am
I cleaned up this MS 200 cylinder,works like new.  The previous owner said that he noticed that something was wrong with the saw ( bogging at high rpm's , choke even when hot)  but continued to work..   

(http://u.cubeupload.com/finland1/200cyl.jpg)
(http://u.cubeupload.com/finland1/ms200cyl.jpg)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: chy_farm on December 04, 2016, 08:28:00 am
It always nice to see a cylinder of decent make and design!
Chy
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Eccentric on December 07, 2016, 03:19:13 pm
I cleaned up this MS 200 cylinder,works like new.  The previous owner said that he noticed that something was wrong with the saw ( bogging at high rpm's , choke even when hot)  but continued to work..   

(http://u.cubeupload.com/finland1/200cyl.jpg)
(http://u.cubeupload.com/finland1/ms200cyl.jpg)

Yet another case of somebody trying to "work through" an air leak....
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: fisaw on December 09, 2016, 05:19:04 am
Yet another case of somebody trying to "work through" an air leak....

Yep , I hope he learned something
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 09, 2016, 12:33:50 pm
Looking at the little 200 cylinder reminds me of the poulan 60cc cylinder on the 365 3500 380 3750 a bit.  Never caught that before.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Eccentric on December 09, 2016, 03:17:38 pm
Looks like a piston port version of several different American reed valve saw cylinders of the past.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 09, 2016, 04:02:16 pm
Looking at the little 200 cylinder reminds me of the poulan 60cc cylinder on the 365 3500 380 3750 a bit.  Never caught that before.

I thought so too.   With those vertical fins on top of the cylinder and quad open port.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: HolmenTree on December 15, 2016, 03:26:44 pm
 Got the YZ125 bikesaw on my bench finally

Hasn't run for about 10 years, pretty dusty.
I built this saw in my garden shed  33 years ago when I was 25 years old

 Was married with 2 kids aged 3 and 1with one on the way. Wife car hop waitressed  in a orange mini skirt outfit at the A&W. I felled timber .

Going to strip the saw right down and rebuild it to be lighter, more compact and ergonomic. Will look into turning the crank around and running the b/c right hand drive.

Powerhead weighs 32.6 lbs (used the wife's bathroom scale lol). I'm quite positive I can get it down to 25 lbs or less on a good diet.
Running a 42mm Tilly HD carb with H L screws. Spare 34mm HR carb. Also got a 34mm Mikuni diaphragm Alkyl carb.
I got a brand new P/C and crank in it broke in nicely with about 15 minutes run time on it. Spare P/C with a fresh .050 over bore.

Notice my oiler setup on the last pic. I built it with a Schrader blow gun tee'd into the bottom of the kart oil tank connected to the bar pad with a oil line. The blow gun lever is connected to the carbs throttle trigger by a bicycle brake cable assembly. Bicycle pump pressurizes the chain oil tank.
That setup alone is about 2 pounds.

Getting rid of the heavy generator rewind starter.
 Will run the pipe under the saw like what's done today. Might replace the glycol cylinder coolant with Slick 50 /bar oil to feed the b/c.

Good way to spend the winter off season 8)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 15, 2016, 10:44:12 pm
Well Holmen you definitely hit the cool factor on this one.    Will be interesting to follow your transformation on it.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: HolmenTree on December 15, 2016, 11:30:34 pm
Thanks 3000.
Yes looking forward to the rebuild. Too bad I didn't know what I know today back then.
but I have to say I probably had better focus and a more clear mind at age 25 to get it built with what little resources I had to work with.

I always kept a keyed 11 T 3/8 spur sprocket on it. Just set the depth gauges at .040 - .050 and let her rip in the small wood.
Sounds crazy but I never had a tach on it. Only know it's peaking lots but not getting away.
Want to experiment with the .404 high tooth but I think a 10T .404 sprocket would be all I need going right up into the 16"-20" wood.

Kevin if you want to move these posts to the race section go ahead.  Call the thread YZ125  upgrade :D
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on December 16, 2016, 01:22:19 am
sure holman hit the cool factor on this one, sorry tho see this history go

but wat i read, we will see ( hope hear to ) a way cooler Hotsaw ;D
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Eccentric on December 16, 2016, 04:59:25 am
That looks to be a 1982 YZ125 engine.  The 1981 and 1983 (and later) were very different.  I had a friend with a 1981 YZ125.   1980 and earlier were air cooled.  1981 was liquid cooled, with a 'square' jug and no YPVS.  1982 was 'square-ish' and had the YPVS.  1983 and later had rounded jugs and various forms of the YPVS.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: HolmenTree on December 16, 2016, 12:35:33 pm
Yep it's a 1982 J. By far the most powerful 125 dirt bike engine during that era. This J model engine was out powering all the previous years of factory works bikes.
With just shortening the header pipe and milling the head it will match today's 125 top end power.

I went up and beyond with a 42mm carb (stock was 34mm Mikuni SS) but never touched the porting which I'm told was near perfect in that one year.

Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 16, 2016, 02:42:38 pm
Been seeing folks use fillers to make their own light weight bars now days. What did you use as filler back then? @HolmenTree
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Post by: HolmenTree on December 16, 2016, 03:11:59 pm
Been seeing folks use fillers to make their own light weight bars now days. What did you use as filler back then? @HolmenTree
I put a aluminum disc centered  in each hole and then filled it from each side with JB Weld. Still holding after all those years

Bar is still stiff enough. But I wished I never did it.
Was a beautiful bar polished like chrome by General Bar Company out of Tigard, Oregon. Cost me $50 and I supplied the 2 7/8" Oregon roller nose.
I modified it with the filled holes a few years later.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: HolmenTree on December 16, 2016, 07:54:50 pm
Here's a pic of the tail of the General bar and 11 tooth 3/8 spur sprocket. I have a 13 pin Danzco rim for comparison.

I feel the 11 tooth spur is a good fit for the high revving 125.
The 16" 3002 mount .050 bar is 0.160" thick
The 25" 3002 mount .063 bar is also 0.160"
My thinnest bar is a 16" 3003 mount .050 at 0.135" thick.

A standard bar is 0.182" thick.

The salmon belly bars were fine for our central region 3 down cut only in the modified event.
But time is wasted between cuts in the down, up, down.
I'll be getting a narrower bar with the 2 7/8" roller.

Dang I got the 13 pin rim sitting too close to the camera making it look bigger then it is.
I'll post another pic.

Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: HolmenTree on December 16, 2016, 08:26:45 pm
Here's a better picture with the 13 pin rim in comparison to the 11 tooth spur.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: mdavlee . on December 17, 2016, 06:53:28 am
Cool build. I'd like to see it run again.
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Post by: chy_farm on December 17, 2016, 08:22:57 am
Wonderful to see Holmen Tree, did you post some more pics here in this site for the detail of this saw? Look forward to seeing more.
Chy
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: HolmenTree on December 17, 2016, 10:24:46 am
Thanks guys.
Good to see you again chy_farm !  I like your cool twin pipe build on your Echo.
Which reminds me, I'm going to start a thread of this YZ rebuild on the Modified Ported Work or Race Saws section.

I fixed the lighting in my shop for better photos, funny how a old technology incandescent light bulb over my work bench can't be compatible with the camera on my Samsung phone :D
I got my motivation from Ken Steeves with his historical hot saw rebuilds. So I'm going to to take my time with this saw rebuild. Even though it's only historical for me :)

Amazing what you can do with the Internet today. I was finding brand new OEM  parts for my 1982 YZ125 J.
 I'm going to order lots of cylinder head O rings and base gaskets before their all gone.
Even found a set of 1982 YZ125J sand casted factory works race  cylinders .  :o

I plan on racing this saw again one day for the fun of it. Might not have the power of a big Rotax . But I will get it under 30 lbs with b/c included. Alot better then trying to cold start and steer a 60 lb plus Rotax.

For any of you guys who know who Ron Hartill is. He was 7 time World Lumberjack champ at Hayward Wisconsin in the 70's and 80's.
 I was in Ron's shop in the summer of 1988 after a competition. Ron was showing me his 135cc B-Bomb kart hot saw. A saw he was beating 250cc bikes saws in 20" wood in the States.
He liked my YZ engine alot and he said the left hand drive was definitely not a handicap. 
His advice was I have to make the Yamaha as compact as possible. He said the cold start and between cuts with a consistent reliable saw is the deciding moment when you win or lose. Drive sprocket gearing is very important.  Alot of guys run too big of a sprocket on their hotsaws for the type of wood their cutting.

He said it's not the most powerful  saw with unpredictably to cut at a show that wins.
It's the consistent reliable saw with a good operator who also knows how to put a good edge on his chain who has good luck.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 17, 2016, 07:10:08 pm
You have some interesting history Holmen.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: chy_farm on December 18, 2016, 04:03:51 am
>Good to see you again chy_farm !  I like your cool twin pipe build on your Echo.
>Which reminds me, I'm going to start a thread of this YZ rebuild on the Modified Ported Work or Race Saws section.

Thanks Holmen, it's very nice to know this, look forward to reading your new thread.
My twin Echo has a lead valve after her carb, and this lead is relatively a big one comprises of 4 big lobes, so this means she was made not for very high rev machine. Asked Echo on the highest rev spin, their reply was nearly 11000rpm for this twin. Shame I wanted to spin her over 13500,,,,Anyways I have to do something better for her port. Your coming thread will surely help me do this job!
Chy   
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: HolmenTree on December 18, 2016, 04:13:20 pm
Thanks for the kudos Chy and 3000,
I haven't started the new thread yet, presently working on a "studio light setup"  for taking photos of the saw on the workbench. I got influenced by the article I posted below.
I have a couple of umbrellas and some white spray paint ;D
Plus a proper lamp.

Great article on the Echo 610 twin. Chy, I think you were talking about the double reed valve setup.

Not rushing into my saw rebuild I have come to a conclusion to build with carbon fibre. I'm tossing around the idea of building a integrated rear handle , top handle and fuel tank with the carbon fibre.
Lot's of info on the net about working with carbon fibre. But I do have a good connection with my oldest brother who built drones and their software for the U.S. military since the 1990's. 8)

Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: chy_farm on December 19, 2016, 03:23:15 am
Very nice reading Holmen thanks, and yes you are right. I am watching this;
http://www.dragonfly75.com/moto/reeds.html (http://www.dragonfly75.com/moto/reeds.html)

If I were able to fabricate a special carbon fiber plate that would be the best one for her!
Chy
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: HolmenTree on December 19, 2016, 07:23:39 am
Good reading Chy about the reed valve. I have a 30 year old set of Boyesen reed petals for my Yamaha but their yellow color so their not carbon fibre. But I see the new Boyesen are now black color carbon fibre.
I still have the factory stainless steel reeds in the saw which I trusted more back then.
Lot's of poor advice 30 years ago from the moto cross experts when I built and ran the YZ hotsaw . Totally different operation application from each other.  Things like tune pipe stinger length to ignition timing.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: chy_farm on December 19, 2016, 08:29:56 am
I think you are mentioning a very good point Holmen, this stinger length and diameter are things I think most. Have been reading this graph here;

(http://www.dragonfly75.com/motorbike/images/backpressure.gif)

the original site is here;
http://www.dragonfly75.com/motorbike/stingersizing.html

Chy
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: HolmenTree on December 20, 2016, 10:38:59 pm
Chy, good info there. I found the factory pipe worked good for me...... but a custom made pipe  for quick throttle response and max WOT power will one day be in my plans.
I'm  still getting my tools and shop organized and have to buy a new lamp tomorrow for my "studio lighting " for taking pics of my project....before I start my new thread ;D
That's how I operate, do it right . ;)

I can't  believe how much new OEM parts are available for my engine on the net.

Wouldn't this  new Yamaha  factory works race sand cast cylinder be nice on my engine. If only I could justify the $971 price tag. :o
Scroll through the 9 pics. Would be about 2 lbs lighter then my cylinder with the chrome bore and no cast iron liner.

http://m.ebay.ca/itm/142218972962?_mwBanner=1
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 21, 2016, 11:00:04 am
HT going to copy that article to post in the 66 610 thread.  Thanks

You must have a stash of magazines like I had on cars. Boxes and boxes full of 60's thru 80's
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: HolmenTree on December 21, 2016, 03:22:43 pm
Your welcome Cut 8) Yeah I got lots of literature alright ....just takes time to properly organize them into a library after moving recently.

Trying to get my "bikesaw resurrection thread" posted but with Christmas just around the corner it's busy busy busy.

Just finished spending the morning getting a hearing aid installed in my left ear. Holy cow what a life changer!!
Should have had one years ago.
When I was a young kid on the farm I damaged that left ear hearing significantly from shooting and running our old John Deere 2 cylinder tractors.
When I was logging I got my first hearing test at about 18. The evidence of damage in that ear was shown then.
40 years later it's still the same until this morning  ;D
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: chy_farm on December 21, 2016, 07:06:30 pm
Nice sand cast Holmen!
It's fun to fabricate my-original-pipe but a factory pipe usually is said to be calculated and designed more specifically for all band of spin. Now my interest is if your Yamaha cylinder-pipe unit has the Power Valve to cover the lower band of spin Holmen?
Here is a good illustration with report on a Yamaha cylinder, from a site [Porting and Cylinder Scavenging]
http://edj.net/2stroke/BellPerformanceTuning/Bell%20Chapter%203.pdf  (http://edj.net/2stroke/BellPerformanceTuning/Bell%20Chapter%203.pdf)
 
Chy
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: HolmenTree on December 21, 2016, 09:37:21 pm
Chy, yes my cylinder has the power valve in the exhaust.
The first thing I did was lock it wide open and then polished the exhaust port like a mirror.
 Now I question the polishing as the factory port had a rough black painted coating inside the exhaust port.
There is debate on whether to Polish or leave the rough coating.
My exhaust port is oval and with the locked wide open power valve the saws throttle response to WOT is very quick from a cold start into the first cut.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: chy_farm on December 22, 2016, 03:15:47 am
Holmen, that's a great and very useful report! Very nice.
Chy
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on December 22, 2016, 12:03:47 pm
 ;D

https://youtu.be/qfGgIxrd1wM
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: HolmenTree on December 22, 2016, 02:21:44 pm
Very nice Saul.
I was thinking about that Rex laid back cylinder design for a few years now.  I may rebuild my Yamaha bikesaw like that design. :)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on December 22, 2016, 03:21:05 pm
Very nice Saul.
I was thinking about that Rex laid back cylinder design for a few years now.  I may rebuild my Yamaha bikesaw like that design. :)

that wold be great Holmen(http://up.picr.de/21143402sv.gif)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: HolmenTree on December 22, 2016, 04:26:07 pm
Actually great design as the new Husqvarna XP saws for example have gone with the rear laid back cylinder.
Lower center of gravity , better view of the b/c, more room for a larger muffler or exhaust header pipe with a shorter bar pad.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: chy_farm on December 23, 2016, 02:18:48 am
Good analysis Holmen, sounds reasonable to me.
Chy
Title: Re: On the Chainsaw bench.
Post by: chy_farm on December 27, 2016, 09:10:34 am
>The chainsawguy made two Tube post on that ;)

Fun to see this information, I am subscribing his video but did not know this couple of videos.
Chy
Title: Re: On the Chainsaw bench.
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on December 28, 2016, 12:40:29 am
>The chainsawguy made two Tube post on that ;)

Fun to see this information, I am subscribing his video but did not know this couple of videos.
Chy

that's wy i posted here  ;D
Title: Re: On the Chainsaw bench.
Post by: chy_farm on December 28, 2016, 09:40:20 pm
Today's toy on my saw bench is a new welding torch, a Christmas present from my spouse.
I did have 4 torches so far, large, middle, small and one for cutting. This extra mini is for welding 0.15mm to 0.5mm sheet metal.
Now I should squeeze out time for trying this smallest one!
Title: Re: On the Chainsaw bench.
Post by: aclarke on December 28, 2016, 11:39:40 pm
Nice torches! the mini should be about right for welding some tuned pipes!! Adam
Title: Re: On the Chainsaw bench.
Post by: chy_farm on December 29, 2016, 02:12:27 am
Thank you Adam, hope I can do some better job with the Echo.
chy
Title: Re: On the Chainsaw bench.
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 29, 2016, 12:22:17 pm
Now that is worth cheering for.   Nice welding setup for the thin stuff Chy.    A great spouse you have there.
Title: Re: On the Chainsaw bench.
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on December 29, 2016, 01:09:36 pm
great gift my friend, your a lucky guy
Title: Re: On the Chainsaw bench.
Post by: chy_farm on December 30, 2016, 10:11:11 am
Thanks 3000FPS, Saul. your words make me step farther.
Lately found an article, Automotive Body Repair News - December 1995, where this editor says he prefers aluminum to steel for gas welding, means as far gas welding aluminum is easy material to be welded not unless we know and keep several rules for this welding. It seems very informative to me.
Chy
Title: Re: On the Chainsaw bench.
Post by: aclarke on December 30, 2016, 12:16:35 pm
Ron fournier and TM Technologies have some great info/videos on Gas welding aluminum.  TM Technologies  also sell the appropriate goggles, etc. and have nice quality tools.
Title: Re: On the Chainsaw bench.
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 30, 2016, 12:20:04 pm
  The smaller  on chainsaw bench thread merged with the whats on your bench thread.

Went ahead and merged them.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: HolmenTree on December 30, 2016, 02:00:50 pm
Chy, really nice torches you have!
I use a much larger torch to braze silver solder when I replace the tungsten tips on my stump grinder teeth. Pretty tiring after awhile especially with the heavy hoses.

I know aluminum isn't used for tune pipe construction and the only lightweight metal that can be used is titanium.
Some day we may see a way to cast some kind of aluminum alloy for tune pipes.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: chy_farm on December 30, 2016, 10:22:06 pm
Hi Holmen, thank you for comment.
Seems you do good brazing  job now and then, wish to see some pics of your works, since I did not have any experiences of this kind.

And yes, I agree Holmen, I do not think aluminum is applicable material for tuned pipes at least at this point unless we are able to find a better heat-resistive aluminum alloy.
My calculation for this Echo twin was like this showing below, have estimated the max temperature of exhaust gas to be nearly 500 degrees Celsius at 11000 rpm.
Thought this temperature might affect aluminum to degrade its quality.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 30, 2016, 10:37:46 pm
Let me see.  The cylinder is aluminum and the piston is aluminum and the crank case is magnesium which is similar to aluminum when tig welding.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: chy_farm on December 30, 2016, 10:47:24 pm
So do you reckon this temperature does not affect the material?
Chy
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 30, 2016, 11:53:30 pm
I do not know without trying.   I was just pointing out that there is a lot of aluminum already used on the saws and it seems to stand up to the temperatures pretty good.   Now with that said the thin material that is used for making a pipe might not hold up as well but with out trying it I do not know.   The tuned pipes by their design seem like they would dissipate heat fairly well and there are no restrictions to build up heat.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: chy_farm on December 31, 2016, 03:10:04 am
This sounds reasonable 3000FPS,
and one thing came on my mind is that I may perhaps dissipate excessive heat by adding some pieces of aluminum heat sink on to the outer surface of the exit part. I have several types of them in hand, hope they will help.
Chy
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: HolmenTree on December 31, 2016, 09:13:48 am
With all the research I did over the years I understood that aluminum cracks easy and weakens greatly at the high heat in the header pipe.
Plus aluminum loses the heat too quickly, when you want heat to stay in a pipe for best performance.

Here's a pic from 1988 when I insulated my tune pipe on my YZ bikesaw to speed up warm ups and making the best power for the cold start with 3 cuts.
 
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: aclarke on December 31, 2016, 11:53:04 am
Consider shortening the pipe if you use aluminum as the EGT will be a bit lower and its effective rpm will be at a lower rpm.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: jmester on December 31, 2016, 02:41:11 pm
(http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh535/jmester/IMG_0538.jpg) (http://s1250.photobucket.com/user/jmester/media/IMG_0538.jpg.html)
Trying to get organized. Going from this.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: jmester on December 31, 2016, 02:43:46 pm
To this. Need to get a couple more boxes and envelopes to be able to finish it up.
(http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh535/jmester/IMG_0539.jpg) (http://s1250.photobucket.com/user/jmester/media/IMG_0539.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Eccentric on December 31, 2016, 04:27:00 pm
Looking good Jason.  I need to completely reorganize my shop...
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: aclarke on December 31, 2016, 05:50:28 pm
Impressive Jason! 
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Post by: jmester on December 31, 2016, 08:02:57 pm
Thanks guys. Just got tired of buying a part that I already had because I could not find it. The way the top pic looks is how it has been for years. Have 2 shelves almost done and 3 more to go. Really like the Avery labels I used to label the envelopes. Makes everything nice and clean looking. Find the template in there app type in your info and print pretty simple but  time consuming. Happy New Years.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: mdavlee . on December 31, 2016, 09:41:45 pm
Much better. I've got totes with used parts and new parts in them.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 31, 2016, 10:59:19 pm
Very Nice Jmester.    A lot of my stuff is in card board boxes.   It does pay to have it organized when you need something.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Eccentric on December 31, 2016, 11:04:50 pm
Much better. I've got totes with used parts and new parts in them.


Very Nice Jmester.    A lot of my stuff is in card board boxes.   It does pay to have it organized when you need something.

My shop is a combination of the two.  Finding stuff is an adventure....
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: chy_farm on January 01, 2017, 05:53:33 am
>With all the research I did over the years I understood that aluminum cracks easy and weakens greatly at the high heat in the header pipe.
>Plus aluminum loses the heat too quickly, when you want heat to stay in a pipe for best performance.
>Here's a pic from 1988 when I insulated my tune pipe on my YZ bikesaw to speed up warm ups and making the best power for the cold start with 3 cuts.

Happy New Year Holmen and guys,
Hum-mm Holmen, your wisdom and experience makes me pretty confused, lol!
Joking aside it's informative in making calculations on this pipe thing.
Chy
 
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Post by: fisaw on January 03, 2017, 12:19:46 pm
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Post by: HolmenTree on January 03, 2017, 02:11:32 pm
I was going to say 346XP with no primer bulb.

I gave my 346 NE away to my FIL and he's pretty happy with it.  He thought it was a toy at first but after I showed him its price tag he now treats it with respect :D
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Post by: 3000 FPS on January 03, 2017, 03:20:54 pm
I have no idea what it is but I see those big external transfers on the cylinder.
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Post by: Eccentric on January 03, 2017, 06:51:58 pm
357XP?
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Post by: fisaw on January 04, 2017, 09:44:02 am
I was going to say 346XP with no primer bulb.
    Yep, no air purge pump, who needs them and why ?   :)

357XP?


Late 346XP  45cc 2005 or 2006 , ( new style caps / starter decal). Needs a new muffler ( aftermarket europe style) , fuel filter+rim sprocket.  Oem husky muffler nla.

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Post by: HolmenTree on January 04, 2017, 11:57:13 am
I was going to say 346XP with no primer bulb.
    Yep, no air purge pump, who needs them and why ?   :)

Bulbs I don't use during my tree season. But they come in handy for running the saw dry to put away in winter storage. And saves pulling on the rope  when priming the carb on spring startup.



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Post by: pleasant on January 05, 2017, 04:42:54 am
First Stihl MS241 piston replacement. What a pig of a job to do considering it's a pro grade saw. Nightmare to get into!!

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Post by: jmester on January 07, 2017, 09:46:50 pm
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Made some more progress. Needs some more work and refinement.
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Post by: aclarke on January 07, 2017, 11:20:32 pm
Nice Jason!  One of these days I'll get my chit togther and do the same!
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Post by: 3000 FPS on January 08, 2017, 12:50:34 am
You have a lot of parts there Jason.    Looks great.
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Post by: jmester on January 08, 2017, 02:42:45 pm
Only took me 6 years to finally get my stuff together. Looks nice just hope I can keep it that way. I was thinking on doing an Excel spreadsheet to help keep track on what I have. But then realized I will never keep up with it so why bother. Thanks guys
Mostly 440/460/660 parts. Like to have a little bit of everything to replace or rebuild a saw in case I have a bad day and stuff goes wrong. Doesn't happen very often but when it does it is real ugly.
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Post by: fisaw on January 24, 2017, 02:33:27 pm
Got a new muffler 346XP , more than 40 days from China..
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Post by: fisaw on January 25, 2017, 11:39:51 am
Dry / clean pho. ~11.14LBS  / +5kg, i might sell this.
(http://u.cubeupload.com/finland1/346xp.jpg)
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Post by: fisaw on March 26, 2017, 01:04:55 pm
346XP 50cc (non decomp)

(http://u.cubeupload.com/finland1/34650cc.jpg)
(http://u.cubeupload.com/finland1/50.jpg)
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Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 26, 2017, 11:21:39 pm
ouch.   Any idea on what caused the scoring.
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Post by: fisaw on April 02, 2017, 03:23:55 pm
I have no idea why this happened, ( ice cutting..) They put a new china cylinder without testing.

final cleaning
(http://u.cubeupload.com/finland1/20170402175832.jpg)
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Post by: chy_farm on April 09, 2017, 08:34:32 am
I tore my 084AV down this morning on my bench, found some scars on out-port-side of her piston. Cylinder wall seems to show some signs that has got affected with it either.
Chy
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Post by: mdavlee . on April 09, 2017, 11:13:42 pm
Hopefully that will clean up
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Post by: chy_farm on April 10, 2017, 06:30:09 am
I prefer keeping this cylinder in its place after giving it a shine, to replacing it with some indecent after-market thing, since the upper part of the ex-port looks not very bad.
Appreciate your advice if you have a good idea.
Chy
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Post by: dutchsawdoctor on April 10, 2017, 02:27:46 pm
It will work, but use a bit extra oil in the mix for this saw and with a new piston you will have lots of saw fun my friend
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Post by: chy_farm on April 10, 2017, 06:14:34 pm
Thanks Saul, will try in that line. Will see the crank seals, hope they can do their job.
Chy
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Post by: chy_farm on April 10, 2017, 08:44:42 pm
A friend was kind to tell me an after market dealer named Sawagin.com, and also I see another seller on eBay, each of who seems to do business in Germany showing a lot of inventory on the net. Can you tell the price and quality of them? For instance a pair of rings, in comparison to the genuine products. I am just wanting to know if there is a big difference between these copy things and the original.
Chy
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Post by: mdavlee . on April 11, 2017, 01:34:58 am
The cross top end isn't too bad. One builder in the northeast sent a cylinder to them to pattern. I think yours woukd clean up just fine though.
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Post by: chy_farm on April 11, 2017, 02:04:06 am
The cross top end isn't too bad. One builder in the northeast sent a cylinder to them to pattern. I think yours woukd clean up just fine though.
Thanks Nitro Hotsaw, appreciate your information.
Chy
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Post by: chy_farm on April 11, 2017, 04:25:46 am
Saul, do you think I need this wheel puller too for tinkering this girl?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Abzieher-fur-Stihl-084-088-MS-880-MS880-flywheel-puller-/190390257004?hash=item2c5424c56c (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Abzieher-fur-Stihl-084-088-MS-880-MS880-flywheel-puller-/190390257004?hash=item2c5424c56c)

Chy

p.s.I know you fabricated one on your own the day before, and showed on FB site.
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Post by: dutchsawdoctor on April 11, 2017, 07:37:18 am
Meteor is the best till so for
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Post by: Jacks54 on April 11, 2017, 09:03:05 am
a new piston wil work chy
check seals !!!before you do it??!!

that saw wil run ok then
jack
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Post by: chy_farm on April 11, 2017, 09:13:52 am
Hi Jack from Nederlands, glad to meet you here. New piston,,,Humm it sounds so nicely but first of all will have a test with this old one, rings will be replaced.
Chy

edit; Yep, I am either thinking of the seals, have to give them a check though.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 11, 2017, 01:50:33 pm
IMO get a stihl oem piston for that 084.   $50-$60 range here now.


Genuine OEM Stihl 088 084 MS 880 Piston 60mm 1124 030 2007   11240302007

If not oem rings I use Caber rings for replacements
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: chy_farm on April 11, 2017, 08:40:15 pm
IMO get a stihl oem piston for that 084.   $50-$60 range here now.
Genuine OEM Stihl 088 084 MS 880 Piston 60mm 1124 030 2007   11240302007
If not oem rings I use Caber rings for replacements
Thanks Cut4fun, appreciate your information. This will help me a lot!
Chy
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Post by: chy_farm on May 03, 2017, 05:48:44 am
This afternoon before sunset I tried to put most of the painted parts together in to a saw, but carb and front handle are not yet.
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Post by: Jacks54 on May 03, 2017, 07:16:11 am
looks big and heavy chy
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Post by: chy_farm on May 03, 2017, 07:37:24 am
looks big and heavy chy
You are quite right Jacks, will try aluminum next!
Chy
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Post by: 3000 FPS on May 03, 2017, 11:03:27 am
You need to do a quick video of that saw running.   The sound has to be really different.   Looks good Chy.
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Post by: HolmenTree on May 03, 2017, 03:33:43 pm
Yes looks really cool Chy, it would sound really cool too  8)
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Post by: chy_farm on May 04, 2017, 07:46:06 am
Thanks a lot 3000 FPS and Holmen, I look forward to trying her too. This afternoon did some carburetor work, replaced her membrane. Also put front handle on.

After this I found she has got odd spark plugs, both are Champions, but the numbers are not the same. It seems that the previous owner replaced one of them with one in his junk box, lol, but not the correct one.
Showing these, Champion J-8, and CJ8Y in the pic below.

Her front cylinder head does not have much room for larger plug, so small one in the right must be the correct one.
Let's have a look at it in the IPL,

It says; #44 Spark Plug BPM 7A.
Spark Plug Cross Reference site on the net says; BPM 7A of NGK matches CJ6Y of Champion. So this CJ8Y is not very wrong, but seems a little too hotter for the spin speed I need. I think I should better replace them to the plugs of default number.

Chy
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Post by: Cut4fun . on May 04, 2017, 01:44:15 pm
chy

NGK BPM7A   cross reference for other choices

See if you can get a Bosch WS5E = Thats what I ran in my racesaws in stock appearing

In this link is a long list of crosses http://www.sparkplug-crossreference.com/convert/NGK_PN/BPM7A
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Post by: chy_farm on May 04, 2017, 06:47:50 pm
Thanks Kevin, this Bosh seems to have same thermal type but some other constructions.
BOSCH WS5E - Alternative spark plugs (ftp://www.sparkplug-crossreference.com/convert/BOSCH_PN/WS5E)

http://www.sparkplug-crossreference.com/convert/BOSCH_PN/WS5E/

I love to visit this conversion site too. Sounds more fun to make some comparison between plugs.
Chy
 
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Post by: chy_farm on May 07, 2017, 04:51:44 am
Late this afternoon, I made a couple of driver-bits which has long been at the top of my wish list, for my Dolmar-Stihl projects.
"Torx long bit"!!

Welding was kind of tricky to me, this ultra hard steel easily melts down when I wanted it being kept in so call melt-pool/weld-pool state.
They go into the 4 small holes for fixing cylinder head of these motors.

Chy
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Post by: Jacks54 on May 08, 2017, 08:07:57 am
like to see it running chy!!
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Post by: chy_farm on May 08, 2017, 08:13:33 pm
like to see it running chy!!
Hi Jack thanks, I want too!
Do not know why they use a bearing with this complicated design for the clutch-side, which is grooved like this on its outer ring. If not grooved we can get a standard one from any where far cheap!
Chy
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Post by: Jacks54 on May 13, 2017, 08:55:48 am
ake a close look at the cases
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Post by: chy_farm on May 13, 2017, 09:50:10 am
I placed an order to a Stihl dealer for parts including this grooved bearing, do not know their prices though. They say they do not have stocks of Annular buffer mount for right rear, crank-case gasket and a piston pin.

Well it's not so hard job for me to make the gasket, the piston pin is available if I do not mind cutting off it's length a bit, but the buffer mount....

So tried to make one for alternative use, which comprises of a spring, one from a 2mm piano wire, but failed this afternoon. Will try it again the day after tomorrow.
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Post by: Jacks54 on May 13, 2017, 12:52:12 pm
ok chy but why so difficult whit piano wire?????
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Post by: chy_farm on May 13, 2017, 06:30:40 pm
ok chy but why so difficult whit piano wire?????
Well Jack I made a mismanagement in heating, piano wire does not like to be cooled with water just after it got red-hot. It looses elasticity in this way.
I do know this but suddenly I made it a fall in the water base under me when I was giving a spring made from it red-hot! was an accident!
I should have given it a good heat again but did not - do not know why, might hear devil's voice - and it got split into pieces when I give it a try with one hand.
Chy
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Post by: chy_farm on May 13, 2017, 06:56:36 pm
Jack, I have been wanting to know why you have so good knowledge of Stihl saws? the day before you were able to give me the price of the parts, here they do not love to tell the prices of genuine parts unless we place order. Are you one of the dealers over there?
Chy 
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Post by: chy_farm on May 14, 2017, 08:35:28 am
The one I tried and failed yesterday.
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Post by: chy_farm on May 15, 2017, 09:13:41 am
I tried it again, done it this afternoon.
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Post by: chy_farm on May 16, 2017, 06:27:42 am
Did some progress this afternoon.
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Post by: chy_farm on May 25, 2017, 10:19:00 am
Lower anti-vibration bushing was done.
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Post by: Cut4fun . on May 25, 2017, 12:51:57 pm
Just wow with the ideas you come up with  8).  @chy_farm

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Post by: chy_farm on May 26, 2017, 07:14:32 am
Thanks kevin, nice to see this special medal. Does this add my karma count up to some extent?


Today she passed pressure test, both positive and negative pressure. In the afternoon reassembled her parts up, so now she looks more like a saw lol.
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Post by: chy_farm on May 28, 2017, 07:39:09 pm
All her parts are reassembled and passed pressure test, both negative and positive pressure.

Chy
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Post by: chy_farm on May 31, 2017, 07:05:32 am
From yesterday my bench is full of old McCulloch 740 parts. Wanting to repair her crank shaft.
She came to me some three or four years ago with this part broken, and this fragment fell off when I removed the clutch unit.
So pondering over the cause and factors of this, what I have in my opinion is that the key in between the shaft and the clutch is hardened steel, but the shaft is not, can not believe but true. You can file this shaft so easily, amazing.
And what's worse previous owner might have put some grease here when he placed the clutch, so clutch and the shaft was not able to keep decent friction to bear the brunt of this big power, and corrupted.
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Post by: chy_farm on May 31, 2017, 07:08:41 am
Of cause I have already got a 'new' crank shaft lately on eBay US, and it's in my hand now. Probably your good eye sight already found it in the first pic above.
I have been thinking to use this new shaft, but my second thought suddenly came to me, which is that it also might be fun to try some welding on this shaft.
Chy
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Post by: 3000 FPS on May 31, 2017, 10:52:37 pm
Looks like you have under control.    Nice repair.
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Post by: chy_farm on June 01, 2017, 09:16:35 am
Looks like you have under control.    Nice repair.
Good evening 3000FPS, and thank you for leaving comment.

Crank shafts we see these days, IMO, mostly have hardened surface, but this one seems it has never been undertaken hardening treatment. You can file its surface with a standard file very easily, that really amazed me.
But on the other hand the key sitting in here is made of hard steel, so it's my presumption for the reason she got corrupted on this part was that the previous owner might have put some grease or oil on the surface of this key and groove, then he tightened the nut. So that this caused some friction-loss of this part and the motor power overwhelmed to cause this damage.   

My alternative is to replace this key from a hardened steel made to a rather softer bronze made, so that in the worst case the key get damage not the shaft.

Pic first; Melted a bronze sheet to make a small ball, the gave it some taps while keeping decent flame on it.
pic second; Bronze key sitting in the groove.
Pic third; Gave cut to this key.
Pic last; Clutch sits nicely on the place.
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Post by: chy_farm on June 06, 2017, 04:59:54 am
I am thinking of other color scheme for 740, with polished magnesium cover, white body, and with some yellow parts like top lid, spikes and power pipe. All parts got treatment with paint stripper, washed and paper on the surfaces. Then got aluminum primer.
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Post by: Cut4fun . on June 06, 2017, 08:53:47 am
Like your ideas of coming up with your own color combos.   8)
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Post by: 3000 FPS on June 06, 2017, 10:19:44 am
Looks nice.
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Post by: chy_farm on June 06, 2017, 10:22:05 am
Like your ideas of coming up with your own color combos.   8)

Looks nice.

Thank you very much for your nicest flowers gents, will do the best!!
Chy
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Post by: chy_farm on June 08, 2017, 06:41:50 am
 Did some painting and assembling this afternoon.
Now I can go further to the pipe things for her !
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Post by: Cut4fun . on June 08, 2017, 08:56:09 am
Handle made from copper  or just painted to look like it?
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Post by: chy_farm on June 08, 2017, 10:13:29 am
Handle made from copper  or just painted to look like it?
Thank you Kevin for showing an interest on her! yes it's made from a copper pipe. Glad if you enjoy pics below.
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Post by: 3000 FPS on June 08, 2017, 11:32:55 am
The copper handle is a nice match with the copper cover.   
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Post by: Cut4fun . on June 08, 2017, 12:37:53 pm
Wow  :o  well done.   8)
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Post by: chy_farm on June 08, 2017, 07:24:23 pm
The copper handle is a nice match with the copper cover.
Thank you 3000 FPS, I post some pics below showing the way I made it.

Wow  :o  well done.   8)
Thank you for comment.

Chy
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Post by: 3000 FPS on June 08, 2017, 11:52:53 pm
That looks like it took some time to accomplish.
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Post by: Cut4fun . on June 09, 2017, 09:27:36 am
Wow  :o didnt even catch that was homemade too. I thought it had just been painted copper.  8) 8)

You sir are the professor of the class IMHO



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Post by: chy_farm on June 09, 2017, 06:25:09 pm
That looks like it took some time to accomplish.
Thanks 3000FPS, yes I started this project nearly four years ago. But I took some intervals of repose that sum up nearly two years.

Wow  :o didnt even catch that was homemade too. I thought it had just been painted copper.  8) 8)
You sir are the professor of the class IMHO
That's a good honor to me, many thanks Kevin!

Chy
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Post by: chy_farm on June 09, 2017, 06:49:20 pm
I started a power pipe project for her.
First thing to do was knowing the exhaust port timing, from opening to closing. I put a handmade disk on to the flywheel, see a marking at the top which tells zero degrees when this port begins to open.

Turn the shaft to the right direction until it closes again, see the disk how it tells the angle.

It tell 160 degrees!

Now open the [Java Pipe] site, which provides an on-line software to calculate the design, to put several required factors in the blanks.
E.g. I put below factors;
Velocity of Rotation :  9600 rpm
Exhaust Port Angle : 160 degrees
Transfer Port Angle : 150 degrees (I did not measure this but it seems in most cases a tad smaller than ex-port angle.)
Exhaust Port Area : 620 square milimeters
Exhaust Gas Temperature : 653 degrees K ( equivalent to 380 degrees Celsius)

The last line, the Exhaust Gas Temperature is a tricky part of this designing to me. In the latest try for Echo Twin, I set 773 degrees K which is equivalent to 500 degrees Celsius, but perhaps it was too hot.

Anyways I got a couple of designs for her, see these below.
Chy
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Post by: chy_farm on June 10, 2017, 05:50:36 pm
Did some more on the bench.
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Post by: 3000 FPS on June 10, 2017, 07:41:17 pm
Pretty neat stuff there Chy.

I have a few questions. 
1)   The RPM's you chose is 10,000 rpm.   Is that based on what the saw will turn in the wood or with out a load with bar and chain on.   
2)   What gauge sheet metal are you using to build the pipe.   
3)   Are you gas welding the Pipe together.   
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Post by: chy_farm on June 10, 2017, 09:24:18 pm
---I have a few questions. 
1)   The RPM's you chose is 10,000 rpm.   Is that based on what the saw will turn in the wood or with out a load with bar and chain on.   
2)   What gauge sheet metal are you using to build the pipe.   
3)   Are you gas welding the Pipe together.   
Thank you 3000FPS for having interest on this.

(1)
I previously posted two ways for the trial designing, one for 9600 and the other for 10000rpm,
E.g. I put below factors;
Velocity of Rotation :  9600 rpm
Exhaust Gas Temperature : 653 degrees K ( equivalent to 380 degrees Celsius)
I chose the first design for this, so the rotation will be 9600 when this pipe exerts its maximum effect to the exhaust gas. According to Mike's site,
Chainsaw Collectors Corner, this series of McCulloch show their spark timing as 26 degrees in advance. To my understanding this means their maximum rotation speed can be limited to not more than 10000, since this timing makes the motor unable to release its detonation heat outside of the cylinder chamber. This assumption leads me to set the maximum velocity of rotation to 9600. So as an answer to this I would say yes it's should be the optimized speed and power of the saw running in wood. Calculation tells but I am not very sure until I try her in some wood, lol.

(2)
The gauge for sheet metal in this area is given by metric system, so the thickness I use for pipes are 0.5mm and 0.8mm for the body of pipe, sometimes 1.0mm for holder/stay attached to it. The quality is they call High Tension Steel Sheet, mostly for car body.
This sheet with 0.5mm thick is easy to use, you may easily roll them to pipes and corns with hands, also with hammers sometimes.
Incidentally I use a simple roll bender for my pipe project, which is also my hand-made.

(3)
Yes for this project. But for the latest project I did for Echo Twin, I made them separate. The latter half of the pipe or the reflector part can be removed at the center joint. See a pic here.

Chy
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Post by: chy_farm on June 11, 2017, 08:33:17 am
It was a nice Sunday today, fine 23degrees Celsius and 35% moisture.
Did some more fabrication this afternoon.
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Post by: HolmenTree on June 11, 2017, 12:30:07 pm
That's a beautiful project saw you're building Chy!!

If McBob saw that he would be wishing he could comment on it here.
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Post by: chy_farm on June 11, 2017, 05:44:35 pm
That's a beautiful project saw you're building Chy!!
If McBob saw that he would be wishing he could comment on it here.
Good morning and thanks HolmenTree, you are exactly right, yes he shot me a video on Facebook, see this a fun thing to see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qp0EYPZd_0&t=25s
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Post by: chy_farm on June 13, 2017, 04:31:23 am
[Designing a reflector]
In the same manner I did in previous case, Echo Twin, drew lines on a sheet metal.  Assembled and welded.
A pressure test was given but unfortunately some holes were found on the seam lines.
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Post by: chy_farm on June 13, 2017, 07:09:58 pm
Pressure test passed!
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Post by: 3000 FPS on June 13, 2017, 08:56:41 pm
Looks good Chy.    Now for the performance side of it. 
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Post by: chy_farm on June 14, 2017, 09:14:17 am
Thanks 3000 FPS, now I am pondering how to make a performance test without a log that fits to her power, lol. You may not believe this but it is true though here. I used to have a nice farm here and had some twenty year old pine trees until I terminated it four years ago. Nice reminiscing with the saws in my shed now, but actually I want some other methods to test them without logs. You may laugh at me but I have been thinking of a homemade unit for my saws, appreciate your information about some designs for it.
Chy
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Post by: chy_farm on June 15, 2017, 09:30:34 am
Found one here thanks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qiv1-j3evd4
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Post by: Cut4fun . on June 15, 2017, 02:55:04 pm
Has to be one of the better pipes I have seen built for a mac so far. WTG
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Post by: Cut4fun . on June 15, 2017, 02:57:30 pm
Always liked this vintage one.

Adam has a thread here on making his dyno in the ported board I believe.

https://youtu.be/h8ATDL6bdIA
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Post by: Cut4fun . on June 15, 2017, 02:59:34 pm
The thread on Adam building a dyno http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/tools/inertia-dyno/
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Post by: chy_farm on June 16, 2017, 06:25:50 am
The thread on Adam building a dyno http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/tools/inertia-dyno/
Thank you Kevin, a nice thread and a video! I am sure they will help my learn some more about dynometers.
Chy

Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 16, 2018, 02:25:49 pm
Backside of bench #3 and #1 in back ground.  Then #2. Snapped some pics while getting some of the 338 I was working on.



Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: chy_farm on March 18, 2018, 07:55:37 am
Backside of bench #3 and #1 in back ground.  Then #2. Snapped some pics while getting some of the 338 I was working on.
Hi Kevin, posting a better(?) pic here, lol.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: president on March 18, 2018, 04:47:07 pm
a 575xp with a new top end ,conducting install
I advised him that the plastic cage bearings were
problematic ,but at 210.00 dollars Canadian for oem
p/c he couldnt refuse .(dealer cost) fattened the h screw
out sa far as limmiters would allow and hope for the best
with the bottom end
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 18, 2018, 05:54:09 pm
Both running. Now to get updated clamps.

Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 19, 2018, 05:17:40 pm
Had this one shipped to me from Arizona.    Typical BS with the dealer telling the owner it needed a new fuel tank and what ever.    I rebuilt this saw 3 years ago.   The fuel line was leaking.   I replaced it with a different type this time and will hopefully last longer.   
Stihl 019T.

Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: chy_farm on March 19, 2018, 07:36:55 pm
Had this one shipped to me from Arizona.    Typical BS with the dealer telling the owner it needed a new fuel tank and what ever.    I rebuilt this saw 3 years ago.   The fuel line was leaking.   I replaced it with a different type this time and will hopefully last longer.   
Stihl 019T.
Cute one!
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 19, 2018, 08:12:20 pm
Had this one shipped to me from Arizona.    Typical BS with the dealer telling the owner it needed a new fuel tank and what ever.    I rebuilt this saw 3 years ago.   The fuel line was leaking.   I replaced it with a different type this time and will hopefully last longer.   
Stihl 019T.
Cute one!

There are some people who do not like working on these saws.    In order to replace the fuel line the entire engine and fuel tank have to come out all together and then installed the same way.    It can be a bit of a pain if not familiar. 
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 19, 2018, 08:47:56 pm
Bench full waiting on parts. 

So working on floor since carb came in for the 55 trimmer I been doing for a guy. Both ready to go now.
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: chy_farm on March 20, 2018, 08:21:11 am
There are some people who do not like working on these saws.    In order to replace the fuel line the entire engine and fuel tank have to come out all together and then installed the same way.    It can be a bit of a pain if not familiar.
Something is very close to my experience on a old little Italian McCulloch, after all it seems that she was put to the market as one of consumer saws.
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Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 07, 2018, 03:46:50 pm
Took some interesting trades in today. One appears to be a later 066 or maybe 660, then maybe a a couple 2.8 3.0 or 3.3 plus a 9mm cc little guy.   
I dont have a clue how to tell on the stihl which. Poly fly so assume later 066 or 660.

Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 14, 2019, 05:17:02 pm
Few saws came in this morning to go through. A few I dont care to work on, a few just $ saws to me but dont care for them and only 1 in the bunch caught my eye.

Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Midpines on September 17, 2019, 01:16:18 am
Few saws came in this morning to go through. A few I dont care to work on, a few just $ saws to me but dont care for them and only 1 in the bunch caught my eye.

I don't know which one out of that bunch caught your eye, but I do know which one caught my eye.  It's that one dark grey with it's engine to the wall,  bar and chain facing out, the one kind of in the center a bit to the right of center. 

It's muffler looks like the Poulan muffler on my oldest most favorite saw.  Mine is a proper green Poulan Timber Master 365 with a 60 cc engine.  That grey saw looks like it might be a Sears Craftsman version of that same awesome saw. 


I ran out of chainsaws to work on last week.  Getting my Poulan 245A working was the last straw.  So I got a ladder out and went up all the way to the top of the shelving in my shop,  all the way up to the 12 foot above the floor level and dug out that box with the two Wright Saws that also has the parts of several 2 cycle boat motors in it as well.  A big heavy box.  My dad must have set the box up there and then filled it making several trips on the ladder he used. 

I've got two complete Wright saws, a Model GS-5020 and a GS-5020A.  The A model I've dated to 1960 to 1962. The 5020 without the A is clearly a slightly older model.  Only the top cover and fuel tanks seem to be different. 

These are reciprocating saws, the saw blade piston extends out from the engine piston.  And they are the biggest and most powerful saws I own, being of a 115.7 cc's.  Big old monsters. 

My dad had one of them when I was in high School.  I assume he found the other one as a parts saw so he could fix the first saw.  The thing is I can't tell which is the parts saw and which it the saw to fix up, both are repairable.  My list of parts needed are the kinds of parts I can find in the nuts and bolts aisle at the hardware store.  The hardest to find being a left hand thread nut and a key for one of the flywheels. 

I will also need to fabricate a cover for the points housing for one of the saws. For which i have a pattern to help me make it on the other saw.  And I will need to make an air filter element for the blade piston, but again I have a pattern for it on the other saw. 

These will be nice looking pair of saws if I can get them to run. 
Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun on June 22, 2021, 08:54:23 am
To many dropped off to put in their own thread right now. 12 of them.    To get as many as can cutting.

Title: Re: Whats on your bench today
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 08, 2021, 09:33:52 am
Parts are parts. Dropped off for labor to work on a saw for a local.

Only 1 in there has my attention and it has low psi by feel.

The stories some of these saws could tell about past owners.  :P

Lot of these I wont mess with like the poulan 306 2750 46cc homelite 150  Wen etc etc.