Post by: Cut4fun . on March 16, 2013, 12:31:24 pm
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2002envoy/bench316018_zpsc1dd8572.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2002envoy/bench316019_zps5f94951e.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2002envoy/bench316020_zps79ec3fd7.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2002envoy/bench316021_zps7bdb023f.jpg)
Post by: Dh1984 on March 17, 2013, 07:58:40 pm
I'm putting new starter rope in the echo and for the poulan 3400 i have to put a new starter pulley and a new starter rope also.
The other day i had 2 Ms250's on it after the owner of them cleaned the carbs and had the adjustment way out of whack on them.
Post by: rms61moparman on March 17, 2013, 08:06:15 pm
Just finished combining a Makita DCS-401 and a Dolmar PS-401 into a running frankensaw.
Looks terrible but runs out pretty well.
Gotta pick up a chain for it this week.
Mike
Post by: 660magnum on March 17, 2013, 08:13:18 pm
Is more orange or blue?
We need some pictures?
I had a Johnny Red Husky once but changed it to all Husqvarna eventually.
Post by: RoyM on March 17, 2013, 08:19:06 pm
Post by: Al Smith on March 17, 2013, 08:23:59 pm
I've got two Poulans and a Stihl on the bench and another Poulan in the shed waiting for two things .Me not working 7 and 12 and the weather to get a tad warmer .
Post by: Walt on October 20, 2013, 07:25:37 pm
Post by: Cut4fun on October 20, 2013, 07:57:28 pm
Post by: Walt on October 20, 2013, 08:30:43 pm
Post by: Philbert on October 20, 2013, 10:01:06 pm
Still 2-cycle, 50:1, 3 HP. Except these always START ON THE 1st or 2nd pull.
Philbert
Post by: Walt on October 21, 2013, 02:26:10 pm
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 21, 2013, 02:38:36 pm
Post by: Walt on October 21, 2013, 04:28:48 pm
Post by: Al Smith on October 22, 2013, 08:27:36 am
I know almost nothing about these things and have no idea if a saw coil will enterchange or not .I certainly don't want to spend the flea bay price of 135 bucks for a danged coil .
Post by: 660magnum on October 22, 2013, 09:05:29 am
The cut-off saws are probably limited at 10,000?
Post by: Al Smith on October 22, 2013, 09:22:48 am
Probabley the water spray might have cooked the coil for all I know.If I can get one of the two running I'll tinker with the other in due time . Not a big deal just one of many projects I have that eventually all get done .
It would be kind of nice though because I've cut concrete forever with an abrasive blade on a portable Skil type saw which leaves a lot to be desired .
Post by: Al Smith on October 22, 2013, 04:54:44 pm
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 22, 2013, 05:10:49 pm
I remember seeing those. They made your truck a low rider. ;)
Makita DCP 7321
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o175/guidosalvage/MakitaDCP7321_zpsfac8430f.jpg)
Post by: Al Smith on October 22, 2013, 08:00:37 pm
I need to find a blade for it ,20MM arbor .All I have on hand are 1" arbors for my cut off saws .Lowes most likely ,close about a mile and a half .
I sure could have used this thing a couple years back when I had all that brick and sandstone to cut for the house addition .I wore out two Skil type saws and was buying blades 6 at a time .
Post by: H 2 H on October 23, 2013, 02:29:20 pm
Post by: Al Smith on October 23, 2013, 05:25:53 pm
That thing went right through a cinder block like it wasn't even there justa getten it .There must be some method besides a limited coil to govern it .Yesterday with no blade at about half throttle it just quit running until I left off it. Today I could give it all it had in the cut .Not that it matters at all because it works just fine . ;D
Post by: 660magnum on October 23, 2013, 06:50:40 pm
Post by: Bitburger on October 24, 2013, 02:02:20 am
fallen in love with lime green and very happy with my recent purchase (hello to BC).
Is getting some "wellnes" now and one day it will support my other Dolmar 153 at home,
after having travelled about 16.000 miles since 1980 :) :P
Post by: jockeydeuce on October 30, 2013, 02:23:46 pm
(http://s7.directupload.net/images/131024/rqo6z2wi.jpg)
fallen in love with lime green and very happy with my recent purchase (hello to BC).
Is getting some "wellnes" now and one day it will support my other Dolmar 153 at home,
after having travelled about 16.000 miles since 1980 :) :P
Just saw this.......Interesting that you are keeping track of the mileage. :)
Post by: Walt on November 01, 2013, 11:31:34 am
Post by: super44 on November 01, 2013, 03:34:34 pm
Turns out to have no spark, went in and found the flywheel to have been damaged in a previous attempt to remove it. Got it off but now it needs parts. No real surprise there. Happy Friday!!
Post by: mdavlee . on November 01, 2013, 09:09:23 pm
Post by: alsled on November 12, 2013, 07:06:58 pm
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on December 02, 2013, 01:27:14 pm
Post by: Al Smith on December 05, 2013, 06:41:16 am
Some of those things used #12-24 screws holes which will strip out ,not heavy enough .I had one I think I tapped out to 5/16" 18 .That's a big ole crankshaft and a heavy duty wheel there .Takes some robust stuff to pull it off .It certainly isn't a tinker toy .
So now thinking out loud I'm not sure if a 250 flywheel would fit on that thing or not .The 250 used the large ignition coil while the 125 c used a 10 series coil .On that I'm also not certain what the magnet spacing is or if the coils could be interchanged .
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 05, 2013, 04:30:18 pm
http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2390.0;attach=4759;image
Post by: procarbine2k1 on December 05, 2013, 08:33:43 pm
As far as what's on my bench...
That same 3.3 that was on there last week. Hoped to have it buttoned up yesterday, but had some things to take care of on my car. Put in a new thermostat as well, and a royal pain that was. Ate up my saw time...
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 05, 2013, 08:51:25 pm
Kevin, if you run across an extra tank for a 475 or whatever else fits I would be interested.
Tell me about car work, seemed like all I was doing this year.
I have some. Watcha looking for and filter type there was 2. 475 was yellow and filter type I dont use.
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 05, 2013, 08:57:22 pm
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Partner550/tanks001_zps737d82db.jpg)
Post by: rms61moparman on December 05, 2013, 10:18:28 pm
Well tonight we had;
a J-red 2165 that I'm porting
2 MS 170's that needed the basic love (fuel filter, lines, carb kit etc)
A Stihl pole saw needing basic love,
and A Poulan blower that came in with what was thought to be a split fuel tank but turned out to be just a trashy fuel cap!
Mike
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on December 22, 2013, 04:01:54 pm
Stihl 028AV waiting for parts
Homelite 340 that I can't get to run right
A bunch of mufflers to modify
A 261-262 conversion that I am documenting for the site
Partner K760 cut off saw, I hate working on those things so it just sits
Stihl 051 that doesn't run that I just can't get into.
Post by: brokenbudget on December 22, 2013, 04:18:52 pm
Homelite 340 that I can't get to run right
chances are it's the ignition. it's a very well known issue with that model. and it's too bad. they're not a bad saw really.
Post by: weimedog on December 28, 2013, 06:50:48 pm
AND a pile of JUNK! ;D
Made a short video of the upcoming projects.... The video is targeted to newbie's not folks like you here btw, so excuse the simplistic stuff.
I had two of the bottom end/tank handles, and a top end (two including aftermarket stuff), and came up with the rest after visiting 3 shops, all 3 had used parts for sale at good prices that contributed to this junk pile...of course one in particular had ALL the stuff needed to complete the shopping list....as usual! ;D Want to rehash the "Chicken Chit to Chicken Soup" fun and games we did with the Husky 61's thru 272's that was a lot of fun a few years back..with a chassis where parts are available. And pick through aftermarket options.. I'm leaving the technical & performance builds to the experts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTFkFQFoS2U
Post by: farmboy on December 29, 2013, 09:27:13 am
Poulan 3500 very very low hr. Got a surprise when I popped the cyl. to delete base gskt., upgrade to 3450 int boot and carb. It has been under water.
Husky 562 scored piston
Husky 365XT scored piston
I could keep going and going and going.
Shep
Post by: mdavlee . on December 29, 2013, 11:19:11 am
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 29, 2013, 12:04:10 pm
Fixed the 338 the other day.
Still need to pull the piston on PP365 and put new piston set and upgrade intake and carb to 330 set up so I can compare to 3500.
Wanting to pull the 3.0 and install the 335 top with 3450 piston. Just cant make myself pull down a perfect running saw though.
Still have the harley poulan project at stand still.
Post by: Saw Dr on December 29, 2013, 09:07:53 pm
Bench #2 = 362 Stihl that I have GOT to get finished.
Bench #3 = piles of crap and a 272, 372, & 359 that are all jumbled together + my Poulan 2500 limb saw that is not actually a 2500 anymore.
Bench #4 = very low hour 288 Lite that is getting cleaned up and wrap/long bar (36" lightweight) treatment.
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 31, 2013, 06:07:30 pm
I finished putting together a Wild Thing that I got for free. I put a used piston and cylinder in it and then tuned it in some wood out behind the garage.
Next I pulled the carb off of my PP 395. The last time I had out it would just die at WOT and no matter how I adjusted it. Cleaned the carb and put a kit in today and all is well again.
Then I pulled the clutch off of my 3750 and checked the rim size on it and cleaned it up some.
All in all it was a good day on the ole chain saw bench. Just the way I like it.
Post by: 660magnum on December 31, 2013, 06:38:14 pm
Post by: Al Smith on January 03, 2014, 10:44:59 am
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 03, 2014, 02:16:32 pm
Post by: bustedknuckles on January 17, 2014, 05:11:03 pm
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 17, 2014, 06:58:38 pm
I've got an 019T disassembled waiting for an oil pump to arrive. Also have a Mac 10-10A that isn't automatic anymore apart needing oiler repairs. (waiting on ambition), And I have the handle off the Stihl 070 and am in the process of putting rubber on the tubing. I need to spin up about 3 chains too when I get a chance. Wasn't in the shop at all today. Maybe tomorrow... I did get some trees felled last evening. Good thing as it's very windy today.
Sounds pretty busy.
I took a bunch of pictures today and weights of some of my Poulans and other saws.
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on January 18, 2014, 06:03:08 pm
I've got an 019T disassembled waiting for an oil pump to arrive. Also have a Mac 10-10A that isn't automatic anymore apart needing oiler repairs. (waiting on ambition), And I have the handle off the Stihl 070 and am in the process of putting rubber on the tubing. I need to spin up about 3 chains too when I get a chance. Wasn't in the shop at all today. Maybe tomorrow... I did get some trees felled last evening. Good thing as it's very windy today.
Bustedknuckles when you install the oil pump in the 019T, two things
1) there is a window on the plastic case where the oil pump drive gear shows through the center of which is marked by being more roughly finished than the rest of the plastic, if the pump drive gear is not centered in that area the pump will not work.
2) when you install the pump using the screw you used to pull it out, be mindful of how much resistance there is to putting the pump in place. I have noticed that the plastic shrinks and the fitment of the pump is not tight enough to keep it in place. If this is the case you can wrap a little fuel proof Teflon tape around the pump body to get a tight fit. Don't cover up the inlet hole in the pump body itself OBTW if the pump was not centered in the opening the when you took it apart it would look s though the pump was bad when in fact it may not be. JMO from fixing the same saw four times.
Post by: Sawnami on January 22, 2014, 06:48:46 am
Wright C70 116 cc
(http://i842.photobucket.com/albums/zz345/sawnami/3e7f5ed35d85745616b6accf09128faf.jpg)
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 22, 2014, 05:53:04 pm
Wright C70 116 cc
What are they like in a big wood cut?
Post by: Sawnami on January 22, 2014, 09:20:58 pm
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 04, 2014, 12:11:13 am
Post by: Al Smith on February 04, 2014, 07:29:53 am
Needed a coil but I'll not pay nearly the price I had in both saws for a freakin coil .Got one coming in the mail,50 bucks .A few more parts and I'll have it .
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on March 25, 2014, 05:14:41 pm
Post by: Al Smith on March 25, 2014, 08:42:13 pm
Post by: Eccentric on March 30, 2014, 05:37:25 am
On bench piles of crap one echo 280 in nead of a fuel look over and a Homelite 350 won't idle seal under carby is no good >:(
Replace the intake boot. New ones aren't hard to find or expensive.
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on March 30, 2014, 04:56:15 pm
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on April 01, 2014, 08:11:25 am
Stihl 051 waiting for fuel line components
HVA 372 waiting for new intake parts
Stihl MS290 waiting for coil
Craftsman/Roper 3.7 no idea what is wrong
HVA 61 needs carb rebuilt
HVA 272xp owner says it doesn't run well in a vertical push cut?
Jonsereds 2165 needs new tank/handle tree crush
2 261 to 262 conversions need to be tuned and tested then make video for tutorial (back burner)
And whatever shows up today!
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on April 01, 2014, 04:07:51 pm
On bench piles of crap one echo 280 in nead of a fuel look over and a Homelite 350 won't idle seal under carby is no good >:(
Replace the intake boot. New ones aren't hard to find or expensive.
Worked on it today , put a new fuelfilter in the tank and had a look on the leaking to
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on April 06, 2014, 04:30:00 pm
Lots of unfinished stuff
Stihl 051 waiting for fuel line components
HVA 372 waiting for new intake parts
Stihl MS290 waiting for coil
Craftsman/Roper 3.7 no idea what is wrong
HVA 61 needs carb rebuilt
HVA 272xp owner says it doesn't run well in a vertical push cut?
Jonsereds 2165 needs new tank/handle tree crush
2 261 to 262 conversions need to be tuned and tested then make video for tutorial (back burner)
And whatever shows up today!
Stihl 051 done and picked up by owner.
HVA 372XP done tuned, waiting for test in wood.
MS290 done, tested in wood back in owners hands.
HVA gray top 61 done waiting test run.
HVA 272XP bad clutch seal and needs carb kit.
JRed 2165, done, new tank handle.
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on April 07, 2014, 12:06:24 am
Solo 630 no spark ( done and runs )
JO-BU L6 no spark and no sprokket ( now has spark still looking for a sprokket )
Dolmar CT damaged ignition and flywheel,no chain,oiler not compleet. ( replaced ignition and flywheel, made a chain for it and made the oiler compleet )
Post by: mdavlee . on April 07, 2014, 05:12:57 am
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on April 09, 2014, 09:50:29 am
Post by: 1manband on April 09, 2014, 09:41:26 pm
-joe
Post by: aclarke on April 09, 2014, 10:34:51 pm
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on April 10, 2014, 12:06:34 am
Hooping your back will cure fast and the muscle to found soon to get the stuff in place ;)
Post by: 1manband on April 10, 2014, 04:58:04 pm
dutch.... thanks. night of using heating pad and had the mrs., do a dance on my back. will do the same tonight. over the years, found that the sooner you can relax the muscle spasms, the number of recovery days lessen. was expecting not to be able to tie my boots this morning, but that was not the case. not as bad this time.
regards
-joe
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on April 11, 2014, 02:48:14 pm
Fine to hear its getting better
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on April 17, 2014, 02:18:21 am
The JO-BU L6 is now a runner ;D
I a moment a Remmington Bantam will join the bench 8)
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on April 17, 2014, 04:40:38 am
(http://up.picr.de/17988030zd.jpg)
(http://up.picr.de/17988031rg.jpg)
(http://up.picr.de/17988032vi.jpg)
(http://up.picr.de/17988033pb.jpg)
(http://up.picr.de/17988034hr.jpg)
(http://up.picr.de/17988035ep.jpg)
(http://up.picr.de/17988036cv.jpg)
(http://up.picr.de/17988037rf.jpg)
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Post by: super44 on April 17, 2014, 10:06:20 am
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on April 22, 2014, 09:15:23 am
Post by: 1manband on April 22, 2014, 05:38:42 pm
tweaked the air filter pipe to carb; and the carb itself, on the echo. got waaaaay too carried away with the carb. has great acceleration, and midrange transition. problem is now, will have to tone it down, idle is now unsteady. too bad, because other than at idle, its awesome. oh well.
---------------------------------------
dutch......... what is that photo of, that resembles a crank bearing half?
tim..... there is a resonable $ HVA 576 out my way....... maybe of interest.
-joe
Post by: 660magnum on April 22, 2014, 06:08:56 pm
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on April 22, 2014, 11:12:35 pm
Post by: 1manband on April 23, 2014, 08:46:47 pm
Joe... do you mean that clutch part of the dolpina ?
if you say it is, dutch.... i have never seen any clutch parts of a dolpina before. hahaha. that's why i asked. looks like fun.
-joe
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on April 24, 2014, 12:55:47 am
Joe... do you mean that clutch part of the dolpina ?
if you say it is, dutch.... i have never seen any clutch parts of a dolpina before. hahaha. that's why i asked. looks like fun.
-joe
o ya for shoure a lot of fun i have here Joe ;D
Post by: Cut4fun on April 30, 2014, 08:17:24 pm
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on May 03, 2014, 04:49:37 pm
this one has the small clutch "only two schoe's"
http://youtu.be/ilkljXyd1_0
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on May 07, 2014, 08:21:42 am
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on May 07, 2014, 12:35:21 pm
Cool! That thing sounds like a small motorcycle! Nice job, are you going to put up a video of it cutting wood?
The cutch is not good, the pats are worn off :'(
Post by: brokenbudget on May 07, 2014, 01:02:49 pm
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-power-tool/kitchener-waterloo/chain-saw-parts/463472762?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on May 08, 2014, 01:14:30 am
this one has the first small clutch Dolmar used at that production
Post by: Cut4fun on May 08, 2014, 01:29:05 pm
Post by: Billyram on May 17, 2014, 01:24:16 pm
(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc256/billyram/002_zps12acf7e9.jpg)
Some one had removed the bar and chain that couldn't have been worn out by the looks of the rest of the saw. So I installed a new one of my choise.
Billy
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on May 17, 2014, 04:50:53 pm
(http://up.picr.de/18312685dq.jpg)
(http://up.picr.de/18312676nh.jpg)
(http://up.picr.de/18312678ek.jpg)
(http://up.picr.de/18312681vu.jpg)
(http://up.picr.de/18312680rg.jpg)
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(http://up.picr.de/18312682hs.jpg)
(http://up.picr.de/18312687ct.jpg)
(http://up.picr.de/18312689lo.jpg)
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Post by: 1manband on May 17, 2014, 05:27:43 pm
-joe
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on May 17, 2014, 05:47:34 pm
Felt good doing some oldfession steal grinding and bending ;D
Saul
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on May 18, 2014, 04:28:12 am
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on May 18, 2014, 04:30:38 am
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on May 21, 2014, 01:25:54 pm
only the clutch cover is broken ( its with chainbrake ) if some one got a spare ?? ::)
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on May 25, 2014, 01:41:44 am
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on May 25, 2014, 02:17:14 am
Post by: brokenbudget on May 26, 2014, 04:49:48 pm
(http://i61.tinypic.com/4doco.jpg)
guy brought it in to one of the local shops after it started to act up. didn't want to come down to idle and wanted to rev to the moon--ALICE!
turned out it was leaking around the cylinder and block.
I like to roughen up the mating surfaces on these. lets the sealant hold better:
(http://i60.tinypic.com/eqw9bs.jpg)
she had a little bit of a carbon scrub. no damage to the cylinder. couldn't even see where there would be damage. even the ring was unharmed and reused:
(http://i60.tinypic.com/24lk6mc.jpg)
(http://i59.tinypic.com/16gyhwn.jpg)
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2meuadc.jpg)
of course, wires are a little worn. new harness on the way....
(http://i62.tinypic.com/334jivc.jpg)
if you're going to remove the spark screen, do this instead. the exhaust coming out through the slot will melt the top cover and chainbrake handle mount:
(http://i57.tinypic.com/a0vqs7.jpg)
(http://i57.tinypic.com/14llsog.jpg)
ahhhdunnn!
(http://i58.tinypic.com/18bpfd.jpg)
(http://i62.tinypic.com/2s17k3k.jpg)
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on May 26, 2014, 11:36:45 pm
Post by: 3000 FPS on May 30, 2014, 12:11:08 pm
I have never used a 2150 before how well does it run, weight, balance and so on,
They are good looking saws.
Post by: brokenbudget on May 30, 2014, 05:33:25 pm
I wanna 562 ;D
Post by: 3000 FPS on May 30, 2014, 09:23:44 pm
they run pretty good stock. they 'feel' lighter than a 353 and about the same power. this one has the flat top piston (44mm). without a base gasket the squish was about 13-14thou. with stock gasket, around 30ish. I was going to keep this one and do a 346 topend. but decided to sell her off bone stock.
I wanna 562 ;D
Wow .013 to .014. Is that cutting it kind of close?
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on May 31, 2014, 10:55:34 am
Post by: farmboy on May 31, 2014, 11:51:16 am
I have to go with Roger on cutting it close. I have read that on 50cc saws and smaller you could get away with 0.018 but.........I guess the new owner will find out.Agree w/KRL & Roger.018 is as tight as I would go. I do know of a Dolmar 7900 work saw @ .018 IRRC MCW in Oz. I like .018 in 50cc and smaller .021-.023 in larger for work saw. Have heard a Stihl 026 works well @ .016.
Shep
Post by: brokenbudget on May 31, 2014, 02:48:47 pm
Post by: mdavlee . on May 31, 2014, 03:56:18 pm
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on June 11, 2014, 05:30:47 pm
and now started working on this one
(http://up.picr.de/18529204wq.jpg)
(http://up.picr.de/18529205vg.jpg)
(http://up.picr.de/18585992qa.jpg)
(http://up.picr.de/18585993nw.jpg)
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on June 15, 2014, 02:54:23 am
The coil is shot, its now at a guy in Germany who is good on rewinding this coil and even better then original...who..hoo ;D
(http://up.picr.de/18585945yk.jpg)
(http://up.picr.de/18585947yp.jpg)
(http://up.picr.de/18585946ic.jpg)
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Post by: 660magnum on June 15, 2014, 09:06:38 am
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on June 15, 2014, 02:02:22 pm
That's great that you could get a coil rewound
That for shoure, can't wait till i have it back :D
Post by: 3000 FPS on June 15, 2014, 11:16:43 pm
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on June 16, 2014, 04:51:28 am
Let us know how it turns out. That is great that you can get it running.
for shoure i will let you guy's know ;D
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on June 16, 2014, 01:57:10 pm
(http://up.picr.de/18636580bt.jpg)
(http://up.picr.de/18636581yk.jpg)
Post by: 3000 FPS on June 19, 2014, 12:24:02 am
Post by: 660magnum on June 19, 2014, 12:30:37 am
Post by: 3000 FPS on June 19, 2014, 12:42:11 am
I've been meddling with weed whackers and lawn mowers also. No chainsaws
I guess it is that time of year.
I did finally get up to the mountains last Sunday and cut down a couple of pines. It was just the wife and I. One was a leaner the wrong way so I made my face cut and back cut, and then proceeded to pull it down with my truck.
I bought about 300' of winch cable and made loops on the ends. I then melted the ends with my tig welder so that they cannot slip. I have pulled about 7 trees now with them and they work great.
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on June 19, 2014, 12:45:10 am
I've been meddling with weed whackers and lawn mowers also. No chainsaws
I guess it is that time of year.
I did finally get up to the mountains last Sunday and cut down a couple of pines. It was just the wife and I. One was a leaner the wrong way so I made my face cut and back cut, and then proceeded to pull it down with my truck.
I bought about 300' of winch cable and made loops on the ends. I then melted the ends with my tig welder so that they cannot slip. I have pulled about 7 trees now with them and they work great.
+1
Post by: 660magnum on June 19, 2014, 01:04:03 am
I've been using a 1/2" double braid Dacron Rope. It will stall out my 4WD Ranger.
Post by: fisaw on June 26, 2014, 02:14:04 pm
(http://u.cubeupload.com/123/02489.jpg)
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 26, 2014, 02:31:49 pm
I do wonder what models they were now and the problems. Oh well no biggie.
Did get text today that still wanting to drop saws off. So guess I will see anyways soon.
Post by: aclarke on June 26, 2014, 03:53:12 pm
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 26, 2014, 07:35:05 pm
Kiev, for some reason the oil pump looks likes it's oriented differently than the top handle model??
Not me = fisaw posted the stihl
Just to compare as it's been to long for me to remember.
http://youtu.be/NY11en0Pipg
Post by: 660magnum on June 26, 2014, 11:11:44 pm
In fact the 200 and 200T are on the same IPL
Post by: aclarke on June 27, 2014, 12:24:53 pm
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on July 15, 2014, 03:07:51 pm
The otherday i bin to a guy who had a coil tester
The coil is shot, its now at a guy in Germany who is good on rewinding this coil and even better then original...who..hoo ;D
(http://up.picr.de/18585949mt.jpg)
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Got this back today a fresh winded coil
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Post by: Cut4fun . on July 15, 2014, 07:42:23 pm
Post by: 3000 FPS on July 15, 2014, 08:34:08 pm
Post by: 660magnum on July 15, 2014, 09:11:50 pm
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on July 17, 2014, 03:39:12 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut_-RFltf7Q&list=UUhGNU0MUVJu0mMG9CjBYW8g
Post by: 3000 FPS on July 17, 2014, 09:08:25 pm
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on July 18, 2014, 02:15:51 am
(http://up.picr.de/18946092tc.jpg)
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Post by: aclarke on July 18, 2014, 01:00:57 pm
Adam
Post by: 3000 FPS on July 19, 2014, 12:47:02 am
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on July 19, 2014, 01:48:08 am
Post by: man of stihl on July 27, 2014, 06:13:23 am
Post by: man of stihl on July 27, 2014, 06:14:38 am
Post by: man of stihl on July 27, 2014, 06:18:30 am
Post by: farmboy on July 27, 2014, 12:29:07 pm
Shep
Post by: 3000 FPS on July 27, 2014, 12:34:08 pm
Post by: man of stihl on July 27, 2014, 01:13:43 pm
Post by: man of stihl on July 27, 2014, 01:15:24 pm
Post by: farmboy on July 27, 2014, 05:44:54 pm
Shep
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on July 29, 2014, 01:57:29 am
but then it will be a strong runner for shoure
Post by: Philbert on July 29, 2014, 03:31:45 pm
Philbert
Post by: 3000 FPS on July 29, 2014, 06:51:20 pm
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 30, 2014, 04:31:10 pm
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on July 31, 2014, 02:54:05 am
Im working on mine Teles, i did the clutch and the trottle
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Post by: 3000 FPS on July 31, 2014, 09:38:50 am
Post by: man of stihl on July 31, 2014, 04:51:20 pm
Man of Stihl, I was looking at the pictures of that 2100 again and that muffler looks like Swiss cheese. I guess they did not worry about a spark arrestor on that one.yes I agree. I'll be needing another muffler some time as well. That muff mod is a bit too much for my liking.
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 31, 2014, 07:34:53 pm
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/166/husky2100002_zps84d2f77b.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/166/husky2100002_zps84d2f77b.jpg.html)
Post by: 3000 FPS on July 31, 2014, 09:20:13 pm
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 31, 2014, 10:06:00 pm
Was there a kit that was offered at one time for that style of air cleaner on the 2100.
This one looks aftermarket set up. I posted the IPL in 2100 thread maybe something there showing it oem for west coast maybe?
Post by: 3000 FPS on July 31, 2014, 10:35:30 pm
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 31, 2014, 10:52:34 pm
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on August 23, 2014, 02:32:32 pm
(http://up.picr.de/18574667wt.jpg)
Last week i did a test runn on the Teles SW3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWBKHL3Ds8E
Post by: weimedog on August 27, 2014, 09:58:40 am
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 27, 2014, 05:14:37 pm
Today this was what I had been fighting and figured out today after lots and lots of trouble shooting. new ignition, cleaning grounds, removing center console to get to more grounds, hot and grounds into fuse box under hood etc etc.
I lost all 6 gauges, odometer and the info center on the IPC. It had went dead asleep after searching many hours. Found a service bulletin dated from 03. Software update at dealer only July 02 and newer. Mine was built in June 2001 and is 2002. Dealer only deal. I figured out away around it. Tried out a 03 and 04 IPC from a junkyard.
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Post by: aclarke on August 27, 2014, 06:55:07 pm
Adam
Post by: mdavlee . on August 27, 2014, 07:08:26 pm
Got my 046 on the bench again. Slipped timing for the 3rd time. I need to put a key back in it I guess.
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 27, 2014, 07:42:23 pm
Told my wife I would dance like a leprechaun if my idea works. Well I need some beer to dance like a leprechaun. :yes:
Guys if you have a older 02 before July 02 like mine it is the software updated needed I posted above or cluster gone alseep bad etc.
I found a junkyard that would let me try a 2004 xl IPC and I heard it wake when plugged in. Only thing the fuel gauge needed the $10 part. I ask if they had another one. They said a 2003 but not a xl. I said it dont matter IMO would you have them pull it and let me try it. They did and it sounded and woke just like the 04 one and all the gauges , odometer and info ceter all work.
Just so you guys know 02 03 04 work in 02 and best if July 02 and after for newest software. Unless you want to go to dealer for the updates and hope it wakes up.
Here is some stuff I had found that made me try above.
If I am reading this right. If I would install a 03 or later IPC or a 02 built after July. I wouldnt have to do the reprogram on mine if that is the problem. Am I thinking right on this below.
So will a 03 plug and play on my 02 built 06/01? Would it matter if from trailblazer?
I know roadie or someone helped me do this updating my heater module from 02 to 03 updated one.
Service Procedure
Some vehicles involved in this customer satisfaction program may have had their instrument panel cluster (IPC) replaced prior to this program. As a result, the replacement cluster may not need to be reprogrammed.
To determine whether the IPC in the vehicle requires reprogramming, the following procedure must be performed.
Important: The Tech 2 diagnostic tool must be updated with software version 8.0, released July 2002, or newer, in order to perform the reprogramming.
Nobody could tell me if the 03-04 would work so I took the chance today.
Might need a few in me to do my Leprechaun Dance I promised if my idea fixed the envoy.
http://youtu.be/F2RpJ_5fjSA
Dealer would have had to do this.
Instrument Panel Cluster (IPC) Gauges Read Zero at Times, Gauges Inoperative at Times (Reprogram IPC) #02-08-49-004A - (Nov 1, 2002)
Instrument Panel Cluster (IPC) Gauges Read Zero at Times, Gauges Inoperative at Times (Reprogram IPC)
2002 Chevrolet TrailBlazer, TrailBlazer EXT
2002 GMC Envoy, Envoy XL
2002 Oldsmobile Bravada
This bulletin is being revised to change the service procedure. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 02-08-49-004 (Section 08 -- Body and Accessories).
Condition
Some customers may comment that at times all the IPC gauges are inoperative or read zero at times.
Cause
The IPC cluster module receives information to position the gauges when the key is turned from OFF to ON/START. Random electrical interference with this data information on the serial data line may interrupt the receipt of the information by the IPC. When the IPC data information signal is compromised, the IPC will set the gauges to zero for that complete ignition cycle. The gauges may work properly on the next ignition cycle, if the ignition was off for approximately five minutes prior to the next ignition cycle.
Diagnostic Aid
With the Tech 2®, determine the IPC software part number using the following procedure.
1. Connect the Tech 2 to the vehicle.
2. Power up the Tech 2.
3. From the main menu, Press Enter.
4. Select F0: Diagnostics.
5. Select the correct model year.
6. Select: Ld Trk.
7. Select F1: Body
8. Select the proper vehicle line
9. Select the proper name plate.
10. Select the HVAC type.
11. Select Instrument Panel Cluster.
12. Select F4: ID Information.
13. Select F1: Module Information 2
14. If the IPC software part number is 09363270 or 15085477, re-program the IPC.
Correction
1. Re-Program the IPC following normal SPS procedures (TIS Version 8.0 released July 2002, or newer).
2. Clear all codes.
3. Disconnect the Tech 2 and return the vehicle to the customer.
Post by: Al Smith on August 27, 2014, 08:09:26 pm
Post by: Cut4fun on August 28, 2014, 08:31:39 am
Kev, you're a brave man!! That kinda chit drives me crazy, don't know if I would have the patience. So do you need to have the computer re flashed in addition to the new cluster display?
Adam
I had made it way worse till I could just get back to the original problem. Scared the heck out of me. Had it not even starting and everything inside flashing on off, half the stuff inside not working lights, buttons on wheel etc.
I thought I was just going to right the ------- off.
copy paste my post
First off I lost my dash cluster gauges.
Came back from in from golf got in the envoy started it up and no gauges came on at all . All 6 just 0 left side plus no total mileage shown in area that shows mileage and trip miles drove etc.
Everything worked perfect till came back in today. Checked 24 fuse and it's good.
Mileage being out too threw me a curve because I cant keep track of mileage driven for gas.
The gear selector area isnt shown either.
How does the ignition effect this in my problem in last 2 post, just in case?
I pulled the cluster and cleaned all the contacts on back etc
May gauges and odometer and shift indicator all came back on for drive to work. When I left today not working again. crazy
Did anyone try cleaning connections to the under hood fuse box? Mine had some green corrosion.
I cleaned all terminals to the fuse box under hood and pulled the 125mega fuse thing to clean it too.
I am only making things worse. Now my 02 envoy wont start after doing all this stuff trying to get my IP working again.
I cleaned all the terminals going into fuse box under hood. I checked fuses and changed them just in case 22 24.
I cleaned the back of IP board etc.
I can hear things click running under hood and inside area but no start.
I'm only making it worse and cant start to even check to see if last fix worked.
I am at a loss to figure this out. What about the security system? Think it has crime stopper for remote start.
Tried the remote start. Thinking security stuff. Everything click runs under hood like it is setting start, but no start.
Even the a/c etc all come on just like it is set. Hit brake to turn everything off without key.
I am trying to piece to threads with 2 different problems over last 2-3 days.
Today I hook both side of batt back up after setting over nite. When getting in I noticed entry lights didnt come on.
Then tried to start. It started.
Dash and all 6 gauges still not working, shift indicator nor the odometer or info center area.
Noticed radio come on go off. Lights get bright then dim on radio then dash. 4x4 shift indicator lights all light up then off then up and then off.
So I turn off restart. Turn off restart. Make sure that was good.
So I turn key to on but not try to start. Pull PCM B and PCM I and the 4x4 module for 5-10mins. Turn key of reinstall all fuses and no start again.
Can hear the clicking etc under hood area when trying to start, but not the starter. Sounds like relay etc.
So fellows I am in way over my head on this 02 envoy xl right now.
Post by: Cut4fun on August 28, 2014, 08:33:18 am
Post by: farmboy on August 28, 2014, 11:49:59 am
Shep
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 28, 2014, 12:00:09 pm
Post by: Al Smith on August 31, 2014, 05:26:41 am
I tried the remagnitizing thing and got one magnet to take ,the other did not.I have another trimmer on the way as I type,flea bay .Unless the guy lied about it ,it sounded like a funky carb is all that's wrong with it .Might be okay might not .
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 05, 2014, 01:59:51 pm
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Post by: Al Smith on September 06, 2014, 12:13:33 pm
So here is Fedex that wouldn't make a pimple on the butt of either UPS or the postal service .Shipped from Fla,went to Perrysburg Ohio then to Ft Wayne Indiana .I'll be lucky if it doesn't go to Cleveland or San Diego before I get it .Bah humbug . >:(
Post by: 660magnum on September 06, 2014, 12:30:33 pm
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on September 06, 2014, 04:04:26 pm
(http://up.picr.de/19435010zc.jpg)
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Post by: aclarke on September 06, 2014, 05:46:37 pm
I was able to negotiate a deal with the boss to continue using the kitchen table as long as I don't use kitchen knives as screwdrivers or gasket scrapers.
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on September 06, 2014, 05:52:01 pm
Saul, I like your style! I do a lot of light saw repair work on the kitchen table or my office desk...
I was able to negotiate a deal with the boss to continue using the kitchen table as long as I don't use kitchen knives as screwdrivers or gasket scrapers.
+1 ;D
Post by: Al Smith on September 06, 2014, 07:57:16 pm
Post by: 660magnum on September 06, 2014, 08:31:05 pm
Post by: 3000 FPS on September 07, 2014, 01:00:29 am
Post by: 660magnum on September 07, 2014, 01:08:33 am
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on September 07, 2014, 03:07:20 am
Thanks for sharing +1
Post by: 1manband on September 07, 2014, 09:15:19 am
saul..... how did the rewound coil work out?
kev.... the bright side, (if you can call it bright), is that at least you got it back home to futz with it. had (have) a caravan that would not idle, took a computer reflash at the dealer to finally fix it, after i went through every sensor on that p.o.s.
like the kitchen table mechanics! once lodged a valvespring into the ceiling when a home-made spring compressor slipped off. always have had bad experiences with springs, whether coil or leaf. lots of energy in those things.
regards
-joe
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 07, 2014, 10:00:18 am
On the parts washer, cough cough I can only use it when the boss is gone. Dishwasher. Same on the oven for crankcases. ;D ;D
Post by: 3000 FPS on September 07, 2014, 01:02:19 pm
my fun for the day is going to be welding up the frame on my wheelhorse tractor.
saul..... how did the rewound coil work out?
kev.... the bright side, (if you can call it bright), is that at least you got it back home to futz with it. had (have) a caravan that would not idle, took a computer reflash at the dealer to finally fix it, after i went through every sensor on that p.o.s.
like the kitchen table mechanics! once lodged a valvespring into the ceiling when a home-made spring compressor slipped off. always have had bad experiences with springs, whether coil or leaf. lots of energy in those things.
regards
-joe
Valve spring in the ceiling. That is a crack up.
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on September 07, 2014, 02:01:12 pm
Quote
1manband link
saul..... how did the rewound coil work out?
regards
-joe
It turned out great Joe, have a mega spark now ;D
Regards
Saul
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on September 07, 2014, 02:03:25 pm
In the winter I rebuild carbs on tv tray while watching sports and staying warm. Also rebuilt many saws in winter on the kitchen table.
On the parts washer, cough cough I can only use it when the boss is gone. Dishwasher. Same on the oven for crankcases. ;D ;D
+1 ;D
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on September 07, 2014, 05:29:22 pm
Post by: Al Smith on September 09, 2014, 07:07:05 pm
Rebuilt the carb first thing .The SOB wouldn't pump gas .Took the carb apart ,fiddled twiddled no go .It got dark so in the house I go--mad .So I thought about it work --impulse hole .Sure enough that was it .Fired it up and trimmed my hedge .All is good on the western front . ;D
Post by: 660magnum on September 09, 2014, 07:23:15 pm
Post by: 3000 FPS on September 09, 2014, 07:29:34 pm
Took the cylinder off and found the ring stuck in the groove from carbon. I broke the ring loose and cleaned up the carbon, and of course I had to widen the ports a little and and muff mod it. Put it back together using the same ring and Yamabond to seal the crank case. Blower works great and cost was zero. You got to love it.
Post by: Al Smith on September 10, 2014, 07:05:19 pm
Post by: 3000 FPS on September 10, 2014, 07:21:02 pm
Cheap is good ,free is better . ;D
Oh yea. That is one of the side benefits of where I work. I have about 3 weed wackers for free that just needed alittle expertise to get working again. The last item I got free was a Poulan 3400. The starter pulley is broke on it but that is about it. Piston and cylinder looked great.
Post by: Al Smith on September 11, 2014, 07:19:26 am
Fact in the last 3 weeks,month I've gotten several weedwackers blowers etc up and running .One is a Ryobe 31 cc wacker .Talk about power for a week wacker .
I get the stuff for nothng ,tinker with them .Maybe use them a short time and give them away to someone who needs but can't afford to buy them .No skin off my nose,I always get more .
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on September 25, 2014, 11:36:42 pm
Post by: pigpen60 on October 04, 2014, 08:43:31 pm
Post by: jmester on November 18, 2014, 08:09:47 pm
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 06, 2014, 08:07:24 pm
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on December 07, 2014, 03:25:57 am
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on January 25, 2015, 02:44:58 pm
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 25, 2015, 07:50:54 pm
Got a PP330 and a husky 350. 1 to check over and 1 to go through a rebuild.
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 25, 2015, 07:52:18 pm
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Got to love the sound of the old stuff.
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 25, 2015, 08:29:59 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COCnqtMt6tg
Sounds good there Dutch, now all you need is some wood to check it in.
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on February 11, 2015, 04:46:58 pm
Post by: Eccentric on March 13, 2015, 09:07:51 pm
Cleaning up this little guy. Originally didn't have any fire because the moveable breaker plate was loose. Runs now.
Wright C70 116 cc
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Wright C70 116 cc
What are they like in a big wood cut?
I ran a really clean Wright C-70 at a couple of our GTG's. Very well built saw. Fun to run. Has a lever for adjusting the ignition timing. Two settings; "start" and "run". Kill switch is built into the throttle trigger. Can't remember exactly how that worked.
IIRC, he had about a 28-30" bar. Ran it in about 32-26" Douglas Fir. Didn't bog down at all. Lots of torque, as you'd expect from a 116cc reed valve saw.
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on March 14, 2015, 04:04:43 am
https://youtu.be/vDgGEtA2jfw
https://youtu.be/j1PIRjO3Lt8
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 26, 2015, 11:26:37 am
So far found the starter solenoid. Interlock switch, battery, and the cable that engages the blades all bad. I dropped the deck and found the pulley for engaging the blades frozen. Right now I have everything fixed except to put the cable in and then put the deck back on. It runs great and drives good.
Post by: 660magnum on March 26, 2015, 12:04:56 pm
When reading the schematic, the 12V and the ignition magneto stop circuits are intermixed on the same ladder diagram. The logic for the the magneto circuits are reversed from those of the 12v circuits. The mower has a 12V system and a starter and generator but the ignition is still a magneto system. Confusing if the situation is not recognized.
The fuel shut off solenoid at the bottom of the float bowl can be defeated mechanically easy enough.
The riding mower has many electrical systems to keep it from running on the ignition and starter circuits. Few to enable running. Seat switch, reverse gear selector switch, fuel cut-off solenoid, - the PTO switch, and drive clutch switches can prevent the starter from running.
There is a cam operated brake mechanism on the deck spindles. Where the cam follower rides - quickly wears a notch in the cam. This locks the mechanical clutch mechanism "ON" and you can not shut off the deck. The cams can be replaced every couple years or you can remove and throw away the brake mechanism.
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 26, 2015, 12:11:35 pm
The interlock switch that was bad on this one was the clutch drive switch. It is a make, break switch and when released the engine would die indicating the break side was bad.
I am into it for about 85 dollars so far. The mower was free.
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 26, 2015, 02:24:25 pm
This going to work great for keeping the grass and weeds down.
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 26, 2015, 03:47:57 pm
I hate working on my 4 riders, but do it to save $$. Putting the clutch in the IH CC was a PITA I will never do again.
Post by: 660magnum on March 26, 2015, 03:54:47 pm
Post by: Eccentric on March 27, 2015, 12:26:19 am
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 27, 2015, 07:20:03 am
Kevin what model/year IHC Cub Cadet do you have?
Somewhere 70's 1000 is all. 44" deck IMO to big for K 10hp. I use it for pulling rear tiller around now days.
Rear shot
(http://firewoodhoardersclub.com/forums/data/attachments/27/27929-d7ede552544c72547f55d14e2e6c2065.jpg)
Post by: joe_indi on March 27, 2015, 01:14:14 pm
The first one I could get going by replacing just the rings.
But on the second saw, I had to replace the piston.
The problem is the jet valves.
Older 046s and early MS460s didnt have this problem.
It is the high resin content in the rubber wood. It by passes the air filter and sticks onto the tiny mesh on the outlet of the jet valve.
This causes the fuel to lean out.
All the correction needed is tapping out the jet valve, prising of that mesh carefully with a safety pin, washing the jet valve and re-installing it.
I do it as a precaution on my customers' saws. But still others bring in their saws with the problem.
Looking at it one way, it is more business. :)
Post by: Eccentric on March 27, 2015, 02:26:21 pm
Kevin what model/year IHC Cub Cadet do you have?
Somewhere 70's 1000 is all. 44" deck IMO to big for K 10hp. I use it for pulling rear tiller around now days.
Rear shot
(http://firewoodhoardersclub.com/forums/data/attachments/27/27929-d7ede552544c72547f55d14e2e6c2065.jpg)
Very cool. I love the old IH (pre MTD buyout) Cub Cadets. I've been an IHC nut for decades. 8)
Post by: 660magnum on March 27, 2015, 03:53:32 pm
Post by: Eccentric on March 27, 2015, 06:41:30 pm
Post by: Cut4fun on April 08, 2015, 12:30:43 pm
3lb hammer in hand to straighten the bends in the super heavy metal box, new center pole from a chain link fence. I can redneck rebuild it good as new. :P ;D
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on April 25, 2015, 04:51:50 pm
only have to do the fuel tank and carb. then it should run ;D
(http://up.picr.de/21693012md.jpg)
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 25, 2015, 10:26:25 pm
Kevin what model/year IHC Cub Cadet do you have?
Somewhere 70's 1000 is all. 44" deck IMO to big for K 10hp. I use it for pulling rear tiller around now days.
Rear shot
(http://firewoodhoardersclub.com/forums/data/attachments/27/27929-d7ede552544c72547f55d14e2e6c2065.jpg)
Very cool. I love the old IH (pre MTD buyout) Cub Cadets. I've been an IHC nut for decades. 8)
She got her 1st mowing in Sunday. I worked on those blades alot this year and she pulled pretty good through the thick taller mow. Didnt pull down like in past when I quit using it for a mower. 44" 10hp
Post by: 660magnum on April 26, 2015, 02:08:33 am
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on May 29, 2015, 02:50:21 pm
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Post by: aclarke on May 29, 2015, 03:08:06 pm
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on May 29, 2015, 03:17:13 pm
Nice!!
thanks,
had a meating in Germany a friendly bloke ask me to help him, this twin was sitting in his room for ever wit only
one cilinder sparking
this wat i did that day together with a other collector
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lStDAcgWm0Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DGPt7lVcAs
Post by: 660magnum on May 29, 2015, 04:44:22 pm
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 29, 2015, 06:32:10 pm
Post by: 3000 FPS on May 29, 2015, 07:18:01 pm
Post by: RoyM on June 03, 2015, 10:28:26 am
Post by: Eccentric on June 03, 2015, 02:53:41 pm
Auto oiler versions (AND those manual-only saws with the oil fill up by the top handlebar bracket) use a proprietary seal (Homelite 58308) on the PTO side.
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on July 08, 2015, 03:52:42 pm
one cilinder wont pic up, it only wont to pic up at higher rev. but it has spark all the way spark plug net 225 from Beru
both cilinder puls 130 psi, gone split the crank case to see whats went wrong there, owner had it overhauld with new seals, but lots off screws i found where lose :o
Saul
Post by: fisaw on August 23, 2015, 01:22:06 pm
= fuel lines rotted.
(http://u.cubeupload.com/finland1/fuellines.jpg)
Post by: 660magnum on August 23, 2015, 07:40:45 pm
From my experience you have an air leak or carb trouble. For air leak look at the missing back cover?
Post by: 3000 FPS on August 23, 2015, 09:52:33 pm
I have had 6 of these.
From my experience you have an air leak of carb trouble. For air leak look at the missing back cover?
Your kidding right. That is just a big hole looking at the crank shaft.
Post by: 660magnum on August 23, 2015, 10:21:49 pm
These engines were noted for the crank pin working out and rubbing a hole in the black plastic cover.
Post by: aclarke on August 23, 2015, 11:42:25 pm
Post by: fisaw on August 26, 2015, 04:39:15 pm
@660magnum , the back cover is in the picture.
Post by: Al Smith on August 30, 2015, 07:04:04 pm
Need to order a starter pawl and some 80 micron screen .It seems the flocked clip on style filters for these old duffers are rare as hens tooth,thus the screen . Working 7-12s it's next to impossible to find the time to wrench on saws .
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 30, 2015, 08:13:16 pm
Post by: Al Smith on September 04, 2015, 08:47:43 pm
At any case the first try is with a tank full of WD 40 which that and Kroil I buy by the gallon .I'm not sure how the pump comes out and I really don't want to split the cases if I can help it .
Uncharted territory as I know little of nothing about a p100 or any Partner saws for that matter .
Post by: aclarke on September 05, 2015, 12:36:04 am
Post by: Al Smith on September 05, 2015, 05:28:51 am
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 05, 2015, 11:57:29 am
Al, does it have a finger pump or automatic? Worked on one for Mc Bob and Wojo but dont recall the pump set up.
I remember that saw and think I remember seeing at the NWPA racing gtg. What ever happened to it and did scott get it running?
Post by: Al Smith on September 05, 2015, 07:11:52 pm
Scott didn't have a bar for it but I had a race filed chain and either a 10 series Mac 16" or a Huskey mount that fit it
I'd bet it ran good but I have no idea because Wojo disappeared off the internet .
Post by: mdavlee . on September 05, 2015, 09:08:37 pm
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Post by: Cut4fun . on September 05, 2015, 11:34:39 pm
All of my good runners in 346 was pop ups. but I guess that is so out now days.
Post by: mdavlee . on September 06, 2015, 07:18:25 am
Post by: Al Smith on September 07, 2015, 08:20:10 pm
I never really payed much attention to how much oil came out of say the Stihls at slghtly above idle speed with the bar off . Plus I'm used to real McCulloch thumb oilers that really pump out the oil .This one pumps but not like a good ole Mac .
Good ole McRobert had a little blurb on his site that sent me in the right direction about the oil system.Thanks Bob .
Post by: 3000 FPS on September 11, 2015, 11:04:55 pm
So first thing I did was pull the muffler and look at the piston and cylinder. That looked good.
So I then pulled the recoil off to see if it was locked up and it was ok.
I tried grabbing the flywheel by hand to turn it over and no go.
So I pulled the bar and chain off and took off the sprocket and then the clutch. Could see no problem there and it was still locked up.
So at this point I decided to pull off the flywheel and there it was. A small nail stuck to the magnet on the back side of the flyway and I could see where it had dug into the case.
Put her all back together and it fired right up and ran great. You just never know.
I also had a Stihl concrete saw come in today that just needed some general maintenance. It ran good.
One of the things I started doing with every saw that comes in now is do a compression test. I have wasted more time working on what I thought was some other problem when it was just low compression. The Stihl concrete saw was 135 psi.
I also had a old Promac 610 come in for repairs. It had 150 psi on the compression but the spark arrester was plugged up.
It is like a mental check list that I go through when checking them out.
Post by: 660magnum on September 11, 2015, 11:08:35 pm
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 12, 2015, 09:55:56 am
I tried grabbing the flywheel by hand to turn it over and no go.
So I pulled the bar and chain off and took off the sprocket and then the clutch. Could see no problem there and it was still locked up.
So at this point I decided to pull off the flywheel and there it was. A small nail stuck to the magnet on the back side of the flyway and I could see where it had dug into the case.
Al got a 200T cheap from a stihl dealer like that once. Something was blocking flywheel and the dealer threw it in the pile.
Good finding it Roger for someones sake.
Post by: 3000 FPS on September 12, 2015, 10:57:16 am
Post by: 660magnum on September 12, 2015, 11:14:36 am
Post by: 3000 FPS on September 15, 2015, 06:01:33 pm
So replaced the fuel line, installed a kit in the carb, and made the gaskets. Saw started, ran, idled good.
Next was a Poulan 3314 that I put a new pulley and recoil spring on. Worked fine when completed.
Then there is this Shindiawa string trimmer. It would run about 5 minutes or less get real hot and then die. It would not restart until it cooled back down. Checked spark and is ok. Compression good before and after. Did a pressure and vacuum test and is ok. Put spark plug on top of cylinder and pulled rope and showed good spark. Muffler is a catalytic type so tried replacing the muffler and no go. Spark arrester ok. Tried cracking the fuel cap open to see if it was venting ok. Venting was ok. Replaced the fuel filter and bingo that was it. It seems that the filter would gradually slow fuel delivery down causing it to get lean overheat and then eventually die. Ran it for 30 minutes straight with no issues and restarts on one pull every time.
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 15, 2015, 06:19:27 pm
Maroon 42cc poulan came in yesterday evening by a firewood cutter. All covers bar chain etc off with muffler hanging.
While owner was still here. I seen both bolts T30 were still in there and gasket and heat shield was still in place. So I just tightened them up to make sure threads not all wollerded out in the cylinder. Said you put it all back together you can take it back now. No charge.
Said it had been trouble free for 3 years so far.
Post by: 3000 FPS on September 15, 2015, 06:38:01 pm
Meant to post this here, not in its own thread.
Maroon 42cc poulan came in yesterday evening by a firewood cutter. All covers bar chain etc off with muffler hanging.
While owner was still here. I seen both bolts T30 were still in there and gasket and heat shield was still in place. So I just tightened them up to make sure threads not all wollerded out in the cylinder. Said you put it all back together you can take it back now. No charge.
Said it had been trouble free for 3 years so far.
I bet it got a little quieter afterwards.
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 15, 2015, 07:56:25 pm
Meant to post this here, not in its own thread.
Maroon 42cc poulan came in yesterday evening by a firewood cutter. All covers bar chain etc off with muffler hanging.
While owner was still here. I seen both bolts T30 were still in there and gasket and heat shield was still in place. So I just tightened them up to make sure threads not all wollerded out in the cylinder. Said you put it all back together you can take it back now. No charge.
Said it had been trouble free for 3 years so far.
I bet it got a little quieter afterwards.
He said this is quite embarrassing. But he couldnt figure out the 2 bolts inside muffler and thought they were missing. Plus he admitted he didnt have the T30 to tighten them if he had anyways.
No biggie for me and know I will get repeat business from him in future.
Sort of there myself. It cost me $5 long long time ago at a dolmar echo dealer, that got me into all this stuff back when I learned a 3750 was scored I had just bought of ebay. Est to fix $200+ back then, I did it myself for $16 and cleaned everything up.
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 15, 2015, 09:04:16 pm
Post by: 3000 FPS on September 19, 2015, 01:04:31 am
Post by: mdavlee . on September 19, 2015, 07:03:35 am
Post by: Al Smith on September 19, 2015, 03:38:44 pm
Plugged screens are a common problem on these things .What happens is sometimes the diaphragm impulse oilers get to leaking into the crankcase sucking bar oil .Just leave the screen out .
I I also had a old Promac 610 come in for repairs. It had 150 psi on the compression but the spark arrester was plugged up.
It is like a mental check list that I go through when checking them out.
Post by: 3000 FPS on September 19, 2015, 08:35:53 pm
Post by: 3000 FPS on September 22, 2015, 09:35:28 pm
I then took an old spark plug and knocked all the porcelain out of it including the electrode. I threaded a brass fitting into it and used some JBL to seal it up. This is for pressure testing crank cases. Should be ready for use tomorrow. Just trying to simplify some of the testing I do.
Post by: 3000 FPS on September 27, 2015, 12:23:18 am
Post by: dannyupsolate on September 27, 2015, 08:46:23 am
Post by: 3000 FPS on September 27, 2015, 09:58:57 am
trying to stay calm it is weedeater day
Almost all the ones I have worked on usually have a bad carb or fuel lines and filter.
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 27, 2015, 10:04:04 am
Now that stihl 019 etc I try and avoid like the plague. Even the newer ones like them I avoid. 190 191 or 192 etc I think.
Post by: dannyupsolate on September 27, 2015, 10:12:03 am
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 05, 2015, 02:11:56 pm
I am glad to be done with this one.
You know those are a some what complicated little saw.
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 05, 2015, 02:56:43 pm
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 05, 2015, 09:13:00 pm
Just finished putting a new impulse line on a poulan 3500. I think I could almost do these blindfolded now. To easy.
Not to mention what a good running saw they are.
Post by: aclarke on October 06, 2015, 06:01:03 pm
[img http://(http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z329/Aclarke123/Mobile%20Uploads/20151005_183122_zpsvgqra3ks.jpg) (http://s1184.photobucket.com/user/Aclarke123/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20151005_183122_zpsvgqra3ks.jpg.html)/img]
Post by: mdavlee . on October 06, 2015, 06:11:08 pm
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 06, 2015, 11:08:49 pm
I like the looks of that 3120 back there.
Yep I saw that one too.
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 06, 2015, 11:10:46 pm
Another 044 project, and a couple of stock appearing 026 motors...
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Hey Adam I got the double barrel muff mod done on the 460. I will take a pic tomorrow and also run the saw tomorrow.
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 07, 2015, 06:04:19 pm
I ran it in some wood today as you can there in the picture. Ash
All I can say Adam is that it was worth every penny. Very nice running saw.
Post by: aclarke on October 07, 2015, 06:15:30 pm
Post by: aclarke on October 07, 2015, 06:16:33 pm
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 07, 2015, 06:50:15 pm
Post by: mdavlee . on October 07, 2015, 06:50:48 pm
Post by: ch74 on October 10, 2015, 11:47:08 pm
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 10, 2015, 11:49:05 pm
Post by: Al Smith on October 13, 2015, 06:18:21 pm
Oiler from hell .Evidently what happens is the metal reed type check valves get warped .The automatic portion must go through the manual pump first according to what I found out .Carefully bend them straight, oil the dickens out of the reed with bar oil and squirt oil down the plug in the rotary oiler .
Blows the oil now by golly .I'd about bet enough to oil a 42" bar .
Last thing rebuild the carb .I couldn't believe it in all my junk I could not find a Tilley HS rebuild kit .Off to flea bay again -------
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 13, 2015, 06:50:39 pm
6700 on #3 bench taking down to do the carb swap back. Pulling 8000 carb and went through 6700 carb to go back in. Kit in 6700 looked great. Just needed cleaning.
Post by: Moparmyway on October 13, 2015, 09:09:59 pm
I took a couple of pics today of the MS 460. I got the muff mod finished up and saw tuned.If you dont mind, I aim to copy your awesome looking idea, except weld up the clutch side opening and make the same exits out the flywheel side for stumping
I ran it in some wood today as you can there in the picture. Ash
All I can say Adam is that it was worth every penny. Very nice running saw.
Are those 1/2" copper elbows
Post by: aclarke on October 13, 2015, 10:52:36 pm
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 13, 2015, 11:25:13 pm
I took a couple of pics today of the MS 460. I got the muff mod finished up and saw tuned.
I ran it in some wood today as you can there in the picture. Ash
All I can say Adam is that it was worth every penny. Very nice running saw.
If you dont mind, I aim to copy your awesome looking idea, except weld up the clutch side opening and make the same exits out the flywheel side for stumping
Are those 1/2" copper elbows
That is half inch EMT that I bent to 90* and then cut the mate side of the pipe open a quarter of an inch and then welded the two together with a Tig and then used my flex shaft and a round burr to smooth it out. I have done them with the pipe side by side and also with one on top of the other. It just depends on the muffler and now much room there is for the welding.
On the 460 with the pipe being side by side I left all the internal places of the muffler for the spark arrester to still slide in place.
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 13, 2015, 11:28:46 pm
Post by: Moparmyway on October 14, 2015, 06:33:58 am
What did you use to cut the 1/4" .......... cutoff wheel ?I took a couple of pics today of the MS 460. I got the muff mod finished up and saw tuned.
I ran it in some wood today as you can there in the picture. Ash
All I can say Adam is that it was worth every penny. Very nice running saw.
If you dont mind, I aim to copy your awesome looking idea, except weld up the clutch side opening and make the same exits out the flywheel side for stumping
Are those 1/2" copper elbows
That is half inch EMT that I bent to 90* and then cut the mate side of the pipe open a quarter of an inch and then welded the two together with a Tig and then used my flex shaft and a round burr to smooth it out. I have done them with the pipe side by side and also with one on top of the other. It just depends on the muffler and now much room there is for the welding.
On the 460 with the pipe being side by side I left all the internal places of the muffler for the spark arrester to still slide in place.
Appreciate the details ......... it certainly was not a fast job to do, and it looks perfect !
Hey Mopar post a pic when you get it done.I certainly will Sir. Just waiting on the extra muffler, then I should have some time for playing after Thanksgiving to get to it.
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 14, 2015, 08:14:32 pm
PP365 on #1 bench. Came back with weird idling issue. Gave the new owner the 3500 even exchange. Going to swap a carb to see if I am guessing right. Was no issue when used last on the hills cutting pines. Been setting since.
6700 on #3 bench taking down to do the carb swap back. Pulling 8000 carb and went through 6700 carb to go back in. Kit in 6700 looked great. Just needed cleaning.
365 seemed to be carb issue (swapped carb) and clutch spring (swapped clutches) . Put almost 2 tanks through it testing and tuning as I checked stuff. 20" 3/8 buried most times
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 14, 2015, 09:58:21 pm
Dewalt makes those cutoff wheels that are around .045" wide. They make a nice thin cut in the metal.
Yes it is a time consuming project but it is strong and looks half way decent.l
Post by: Moparmyway on October 15, 2015, 06:20:48 am
Mopar I did use a cut off wheel on a hand grinder. I buy those cheap hand grinders from Habor Freight when they are on sale. Then I put a different wheel on each one of them so I do not have to change them.It looks much better than 1/2 way decent !!
Dewalt makes those cutoff wheels that are around .045" wide. They make a nice thin cut in the metal.
Yes it is a time consuming project but it is strong and looks half way decent.l
I have lots of those wheels - usually get 6 boxes every couple of months
With your picture and details, I have been churning and burning my noodle. I have an idea using your basic concept, but am working on the screen aspect. I might need to get some thinner sheet though, I only have 10 and 12 gauge on hand
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 16, 2015, 09:35:56 pm
Also worked on a echo cs670 if I remember right. Compression was 50 psi and piston scored across the rings. Customer wants to fix it so I will be doing a piston ring and cylinder on it. Still cheaper than a new saw.
Post by: aclarke on October 16, 2015, 10:01:49 pm
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 16, 2015, 10:36:29 pm
Those concrete saws have a hard life....
They sure do. I get them in all the time to be worked on. I have done Stihl, Wacker Nueson, Husqvarna, Homelite, Partner, and there was one other I cannot remember the name of right now.
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 22, 2015, 05:52:40 pm
Post by: Al Smith on October 22, 2015, 06:46:27 pm
AL, post a pic of that p1000 if you get a chance...It's in the works as soon as I get all the parts.
Now the continuing saga .I rebuilt the carb and fiddled with it until I got it to run pretty well. Fact real well .I'm not sure if it's got as much as an 066 Stihl or a 2100 Husky but it's enough .
The air filter is deflocked so I half-fast it with 80 micron screen .Have a filter from a p-70 Partner on the way which I think I can make work.
Now the bar .A Mac 10 series will fit but the chain because the saw has an 8 tooth rim is a tad short .Probably work with a 7 tooth .81 drivers on a Mac 24" bar, needs one more .An 84 driver on a Mac bar is too long .Borrowed a 24" bar from a Husky 281 which is 84 driver, works but also robbed a set of bar plates from a 2100 so it could get oil. Won't oil with the Mac plates on a Husky mount bar .
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 22, 2015, 07:10:34 pm
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Genuine-McCulloch-Chainsaw-Pro-Mac-1000-Air-Filter-OR-Partner-P100-Chainsaw-/181314850062?hash=item2a37350d0e
http://www.ebay.com/itm/vintage-chainsaw-husqvarna-partner-mcculloch-p100-p-1000-filter-assy-p-n-32272-/252081267095?hash=item3ab136e197
member here in Ohio has this one Al.
McCulloch PM1000 Partner P100 Air filter 214696 NOS $18.90
(http://cdn6.bigcommerce.com/s-hlkn5/products/9447/images/1919/a20791a143730e9f577308_l__97801.1415423765.451.416.JPG?c=2)
Post by: Al Smith on October 22, 2015, 08:53:43 pm
They look like they bolt up like a Stihl on studs with nuts that hold the carb .This thing has long screws and I doubt I have enough room to slip the carb over the left hand lower stud if I go that route .
There's a lot of things the designers could have done to make this thing more user friendly but they didn't .
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 22, 2015, 08:59:17 pm
I wish I'd have known about the last one .I'll have about 12-14 bucks in the P70 filter .With either one I'm going to have to do some modifications .
They look like they bolt up like a Stihl on studs with nuts that hold the carb .This thing has long screws and I doubt I have enough room to slip the carb over the left hand lower stud if I go that route .
There's a lot of things the designers could have done to make this thing more user friendly but they didn't .
Link to the last one sent in PM.
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 31, 2015, 09:42:55 pm
Dont get that service at the local dealer. ;)
Post by: dannyupsolate on November 06, 2015, 02:16:27 pm
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 06, 2015, 02:40:19 pm
Post by: dannyupsolate on November 06, 2015, 02:45:27 pm
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 06, 2015, 02:49:03 pm
seen that before but not to total meltdown like this one :o
That is because the owner of the saw is usually smart enouph to figure out what is going on, but once in awhile you get one that is just alittle slow on what that smell is. Oh well.
Post by: dannyupsolate on November 06, 2015, 03:13:53 pm
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 06, 2015, 03:56:27 pm
Post by: dannyupsolate on November 06, 2015, 04:08:58 pm
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 06, 2015, 09:05:36 pm
be glad when I know enough to work on the quality saws. trying to make all my dumb mistakes on the cheap saws.
Hey we all started just like you. Just wait until the word gets out you know how to repair chainsaws.
Post by: dannyupsolate on November 06, 2015, 10:25:41 pm
Post by: aclarke on November 06, 2015, 10:38:16 pm
Post by: jmester on November 07, 2015, 09:58:20 am
Post by: mdavlee . on November 07, 2015, 10:50:39 am
Post by: aclarke on November 07, 2015, 12:00:40 pm
Post by: jmester on November 07, 2015, 12:04:53 pm
What does the 372xpw need?
Post by: mdavlee . on November 07, 2015, 03:35:31 pm
Porting and assembly.
Post by: aclarke on November 07, 2015, 10:08:05 pm
Post by: jmester on November 07, 2015, 10:51:23 pm
Post by: aclarke on November 07, 2015, 11:01:59 pm
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 08, 2015, 08:45:59 am
Got 11 years out if my last heater, replaced it 6 months ago. Drained water and to my dismay the thing was still brutally heavy with sediment/deposits.
My brother said he has had to put in 3 in the last 15-20 years.
I just checked my A.O. Smith one in basement as I was changing furnace filter and it was put there in 1995. The date is on the tank when installed.
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 08, 2015, 08:48:13 am
All better since putting in a whole house filter.
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 08, 2015, 08:51:10 am
Guess what I will use from now on. ;)
Post by: mdavlee . on November 08, 2015, 12:20:04 pm
Post by: Al Smith on November 08, 2015, 06:48:54 pm
Post by: RoyM on November 17, 2015, 08:11:34 pm
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 18, 2015, 05:29:41 pm
Post by: RoyM on November 19, 2015, 10:14:15 pm
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 20, 2015, 12:31:14 pm
I like the challenge. ;D ;)
Man I will laugh if this was something so simple to see.
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 20, 2015, 12:56:16 pm
Had a little poulan (havent opened poulan case) dropped off today. Guy brought it in from a deer camp and said had a local professional dealer check it over and couldnt get it to start either.
I like the challenge. ;D ;)
Man I will laugh if this was something so simple to see.
It just makes you feel good fixing something for someone that others either could not figure out or did not want to take the time to figure out.
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 20, 2015, 06:51:35 pm
Had a little poulan (havent opened poulan case) dropped off today. Guy brought it in from a deer camp and said had a local professional dealer check it over and couldnt get it to start either.
I like the challenge. ;D ;)
Man I will laugh if this was something so simple to see.
It just makes you feel good fixing something for someone that others either could not figure out or did not want to take the time to figure out.
I peeked in the case before going out to eat. Looked like a brand new strato poulan 3314 in there
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on November 28, 2015, 12:42:45 am
the solo twin is back on the bench >:(
one cilinder wont pic up, it only wont to pic up at higher rev. but it has spark all the way spark plug net 225 from Beru
both cilinder puls 130 psi, gone split the crank case to see whats went wrong there, owner had it overhauld with new seals, but lots off screws i found where lose :o
Saul
finaly i hve now time to work on this twin,( head to much work to do doing 60"s in a week ::) )
i have to pull the clutch of and then the starter recoil
Saul
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 28, 2015, 12:53:30 pm
the solo twin is back on the bench >:(
one cilinder wont pic up, it only wont to pic up at higher rev. but it has spark all the way spark plug net 225 from Beru
both cilinder puls 130 psi, gone split the crank case to see whats went wrong there, owner had it overhauld with new seals, but lots off screws i found where lose :o
Saul
finaly i hve now time to work on this twin,( head to much work to do doing 60"s in a week ::) )
i have to pull the clutch of and then the starter recoil
Saul
60 hours a week does not leave much time for playing. The twin will be worth it when done.
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on November 29, 2015, 03:26:34 am
Right about that ;D, ordered for my self a new puller-set to get that clutch of ;)the solo twin is back on the bench >:(
one cilinder wont pic up, it only wont to pic up at higher rev. but it has spark all the way spark plug net 225 from Beru
both cilinder puls 130 psi, gone split the crank case to see whats went wrong there, owner had it overhauld with new seals, but lots off screws i found where lose :o
Saul
finaly i hve now time to work on this twin,( head to much work to do doing 60"s in a week ::) )
i have to pull the clutch of and then the starter recoil
Saul
60 hours a week does not leave much time for playing. The twin will be worth it when done.
Saul
Post by: jmester on November 29, 2015, 09:04:24 pm
Post by: weimedog on December 17, 2015, 08:32:42 am
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 17, 2015, 10:01:56 am
A smashed MS391, a Dirty MS290, a tuned too rich MS460, A Husqvarna 51 with a rotted fuel line, A toasted 562 and a 372X-torq with a wasted clutch side main bearing. Another 562 getting that latest release of ignition/carb and wiring. A Dolmar 120 with what looks like a tank vent rotted. A bearings up rebuild on a 385, Then my fun Projects hopefully. "Cyclops II" & a tweaked MS660.
You don't have enough to do.
Post by: farmboy on December 17, 2015, 10:55:25 pm
Shep
Post by: jmester on December 17, 2015, 11:38:25 pm
Post by: wild262 on December 31, 2015, 06:30:42 am
2-346 OE doing AFM 44.3 PC on both. 1 needs clutch side seal which I don't have in stock, dont know about seals on the other. Checked case screws on both they started tightening @ 3 nm. I've started checking them on everything now. 2002 2159 Jred I just picked up started @ 4 nm.I've had the same issue with those screws loosing up as well with that line of saws. More so the plastic cased saws. On new rebuilds I have been dabbing lock tight on the threads. On the course threaded bolts of the 340-350 series and Jonny CS plastic cased series, I dab the lower half of the screw with lock tight and the upper half below the head with 1194 or dirko. After checking the last 2 rebuilds, they seem to be staying tight. Time will tell. Just be sure to clean up & degrease the threads of the screws and the slots (holes) before applying. try this, it really helps.
Shep
As far as whats on my bench, a 268xp with carb. issues, a 345 Husky with loose intake collar, a Dolly 7900 waiting for a HD air cleaner kit, and a Husky 66 waiting for a restoration job. LOL Not enough to do :D Soon as this ice melts, got to get some green honey locust cut to mix with dry. Can't wait. :(
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 31, 2015, 11:35:06 am
As far as whats on my bench, a 268xp with carb. issues,
Whats it doing? I have a 268xp with 272 top I been chasing and now tore down on the bench. Husky board 268 272 thread.
Post by: mdavlee . on December 31, 2015, 01:49:08 pm
Post by: wild262 on December 31, 2015, 06:11:51 pm
Nothing major, I just put the wrong carb. on it by mistake. Too many carbs on bench. Went to adjust carb. and there was no idle screw. put a 61 carb. on. Get this fixed tomarrow and get it listed. Just got an Echo 330T done. Like running a whole new saw. Unreal what a M. mod & intake mod. can do to these little saws.As far as whats on my bench, a 268xp with carb. issues,
Whats it doing? I have a 268xp with 272 top I been chasing and now tore down on the bench. Husky board 268 272 thread.
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on January 04, 2016, 03:21:34 pm
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Post by: dutchsawdoctor on January 04, 2016, 03:26:53 pm
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Post by: dutchsawdoctor on January 04, 2016, 03:31:16 pm
https://youtu.be/ucqf7ZxBstc
Post by: mdavlee . on January 04, 2016, 04:26:07 pm
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 04, 2016, 06:13:50 pm
Post by: aclarke on January 04, 2016, 09:37:59 pm
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on January 05, 2016, 01:46:42 am
i know im verry lucky ;D :D
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on January 24, 2016, 05:16:06 am
got tree runners now ;)
and some spare parts left
Post by: mdavlee . on January 24, 2016, 06:49:33 am
Post by: 660magnum on January 24, 2016, 08:37:24 am
Bottom line is a new ring fixed it!
I happen to visit his shop after the fact and looked at the ring. At the position of the transfer on the PTO side there was severe rounding of the ring on the top side. There was noticeable rounding of the ring on the starter side transfer and at the exhaust. Then it was mentioned that the saw was a 268 with a after market 272 cylinder. The saw was back together and gone but I would have to assume that the ports in the cylinder were not beveled correctly, and in particular, the PTO side transfer. To look closely at this ring, besides the rounding at the PTO transfer, the ring was thinner at this position. The saw had been in firewood duty for some three years before it started running poorly.
Ten years ago, I repaired a model airplane engine that had been fitted with the polymid (Plastic Cage) main bearings. Both bearings had lost their cages which naturally went up through the engine. It didn't hurt the chromed cylinder but the ring's edges were rounded off. I replaced the bearings and the ring.
The morel to this story is - Look at the ring's seating area against the cylinder. The edges must be crisp and sharp. Unless of course, you have already put a new ring in it?
Post by: mdavlee . on January 24, 2016, 08:49:14 am
Post by: jmester on January 28, 2016, 02:59:23 pm
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 28, 2016, 08:26:11 pm
I worked on a MS362 and a MS460 today. They both run good but have been beat up pretty good. Going to the Stihl dealer tomorrow for parts.
Post by: mdavlee . on January 29, 2016, 07:26:55 am
I have a 371/365 on my bench. Ported it last night. Going to run it today. I threw my muffler on it so I could test it and I'll get on modding his today sometime.
Post by: 660magnum on January 29, 2016, 07:43:02 am
Post by: Chris-PA on January 29, 2016, 10:15:24 am
There's a decent 42cc Poulan engine on the shelf, and I just ordered a good carcass with a blown engine. So it looks like I'm going to clear off the bench and come up with something else strange to do to a plastic Poulan for entertainment.
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 29, 2016, 11:02:41 am
The bench is covered in junk from several emergency repair projects (cars, trucks and tractors that broke). And I wasn't going to do a chainsaw project this winter - but I'm bored.
There's a decent 42cc Poulan engine on the shelf, and I just ordered a good carcass with a blown engine. So it looks like I'm going to clear off the bench and come up with something else strange to do to a plastic Poulan for entertainment.
I know that feeling.
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 29, 2016, 11:04:05 am
The heated handles on my 266 get warm enough that on a 40 degree day you need gloves to turn them on.
I have a 371/365 on my bench. Ported it last night. Going to run it today. I threw my muffler on it so I could test it and I'll get on modding his today sometime.
That porting did not mean drop the cylinder and hope the numbers come out great did it. Just a little humor or sarcasm however you want to put it.
Post by: mdavlee . on January 29, 2016, 01:10:42 pm
Post by: 660magnum on January 29, 2016, 01:58:29 pm
Post by: mdavlee . on January 29, 2016, 03:22:52 pm
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 29, 2016, 06:56:41 pm
After what I just had happen in the chain build off. I didnt want someone coming back on me saying I did it. So I cut and replaced the suspect parts.
Never thought about that before coming back on me IF. So inspecting folks chains now closer.
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 29, 2016, 08:45:52 pm
Was fixing a PM chain today. Could see where the cutter was filed down into the drive link before.
After what I just had happen in the chain build off. I didnt want someone coming back on me saying I did it. So I cut and replaced the suspect parts.
Never thought about that before coming back on me IF. So inspecting folks chains now closer.
I guess in the law suit happy society you have to CYA.
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 29, 2016, 08:48:39 pm
Nope not quite. Lots of grinding on these to get the numbers back. Almost 10° on the exhaust and transfers.
Sounds like a lot of work and a real port job to me. Like shaping, blow down, RPM's and flow.
Post by: Philbert on January 29, 2016, 10:39:39 pm
So inspecting folks chains now closer.I always clean/degrease used chains I get to inspect for damage.
Posted a bunch of photos in my 'Challenge Chain' thread on that other site. I have seen:
- upside down tie straps;
- inside out tie straps:
- low profile tie straps used on full sized 3/8 pitch chain;
- broken off parts;
- all kinds of cracks in different components;
- hand peened rivets that are almost flush with the tie strap, instead of 'mushroomed' over;
- 'buffet chains' (a few STIHL links, some Oregon parts, a few Windsor cutters, some other type of Oregon cutters, some low profile/some not, . . . ;
- and my favorite - the Pop rivet!
Philbert
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 29, 2016, 10:44:55 pm
Post by: Philbert on January 29, 2016, 11:24:32 pm
The Pop rivet really **** me up.Have not see any backwards cutters . . .yet.
Philbert
Post by: Philbert on January 29, 2016, 11:27:51 pm
Philbert
Post by: Tractorsaw1 on January 29, 2016, 11:50:28 pm
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 30, 2016, 12:14:08 am
Post by: concretegrazer on January 30, 2016, 01:19:14 am
The Pop rivet really **** me up.Have not see any backwards cutters . . .yet.
Philbert
Good grief.
Post by: mdavlee . on January 30, 2016, 08:19:57 am
Nope not quite. Lots of grinding on these to get the numbers back. Almost 10° on the exhaust and transfers.
Sounds like a lot of work and a real port job to me. Like shaping, blow down, RPM's and flow.
It turned out nice.
https://youtu.be/AuTbIE_jIa8
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on January 30, 2016, 08:59:08 am
The Pop rivet really **** me up.Have not see any backwards cutters . . .yet.
Philbert
Good grief.
Woow :o :o :o what people do, and still find it strange when it go's wrong
Saul
Post by: 660magnum on January 30, 2016, 09:18:34 am
Post by: 1990husky262 on January 30, 2016, 09:48:49 am
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 30, 2016, 11:11:52 am
Nope not quite. Lots of grinding on these to get the numbers back. Almost 10° on the exhaust and transfers.
Sounds like a lot of work and a real port job to me. Like shaping, blow down, RPM's and flow.
It turned out nice.
https://youtu.be/AuTbIE_jIa8
Very Nice job Mike. Sounds like it was holding the RPS's well and also looked to be pretty fast.
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 30, 2016, 11:12:57 am
It always amazes me what people will "through" away.
I agree, but for some people a 2 cycle engine is a great mystery.
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 30, 2016, 12:06:08 pm
Post by: mdavlee . on January 30, 2016, 12:10:49 pm
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on January 31, 2016, 04:10:39 pm
https://youtu.be/Qp-Zmg9kz0Q
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on February 11, 2016, 04:25:00 am
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Post by: dutchsawdoctor on February 17, 2016, 01:13:50 am
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Post by: pete on February 17, 2016, 01:57:40 am
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on February 17, 2016, 03:48:58 am
Nice pics always enjoy looking at others workplaces like the doorbell anfd the young ladies aren't bad either
shoure is nice ;D ;D ;D
saul
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 17, 2016, 10:08:56 am
Post by: dannyupsolate on February 17, 2016, 12:51:02 pm
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on February 20, 2016, 02:47:41 am
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time to go for a spark
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Post by: dutchsawdoctor on February 20, 2016, 02:55:14 am
Nice pictures Saul. Looks like a well equipped work shop.
its mine friends work shop ;D ;D
Will tel him you like it
Saul
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 20, 2016, 11:16:37 am
Nice pictures Saul. Looks like a well equipped work shop.
its mine friends work shop ;D ;D
Will tel him you like it
Saul
You have a good friend there. So looks like your getting close to firing it up. That coil looked so primitive compared to what is now used.
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on February 20, 2016, 11:20:33 am
Here a video Watch out noisy ;D
https://youtu.be/QyG9OhQd6l4
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 20, 2016, 11:25:18 am
Post by: 1manband on February 20, 2016, 07:35:42 pm
are those wooden safety shoes comfortable?
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on February 21, 2016, 03:35:45 am
will ask one in semtember at a show ;D
saul
Post by: 1manband on February 21, 2016, 09:50:42 am
the motor photos you post, is like going back in time.
have to go to your website again to see what is new.
regards
joe
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on February 21, 2016, 01:05:22 pm
go team orange!
the motor photos you post, is like going back in time.
have to go to your website again to see what is new.
regards
joe
lots of things going on Joe,
fine you liked those pics.
best regards
saul
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 25, 2016, 02:58:44 pm
Hahaha :D :D me to, but a bar is not in mine possesion :'( :'(
will ask one in semtember at a show ;D
saul
I think it is to high IMHO. Butttttttt here you go. $150 and ship.
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Post by: dutchsawdoctor on February 26, 2016, 01:07:45 am
what saw should it fit to?
Saul
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 26, 2016, 04:21:05 pm
Post by: 660magnum on February 26, 2016, 06:20:58 pm
If you make the slot parallel to the top rail you can get away with no modification to the clutch cover or PTO side of the saw.
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on February 27, 2016, 05:47:56 am
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on February 27, 2016, 03:00:10 pm
Saul
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Post by: Cut4fun . on February 27, 2016, 08:05:32 pm
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on February 28, 2016, 05:24:43 am
Saul
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on March 06, 2016, 04:04:07 am
pics will follow ;)
saul
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on March 06, 2016, 04:13:51 am
Worked yesterday on making the exhausts for the Stihl BDKH
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this what im making
Saul
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Post by: Cut4fun . on March 06, 2016, 06:16:20 pm
Anyone see anything you want me to ask about?
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 06, 2016, 09:41:00 pm
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on March 07, 2016, 04:42:43 am
mine work go's on ;D
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Post by: 3000 FPS on March 07, 2016, 10:26:09 am
Post by: Cut4fun on March 07, 2016, 12:12:17 pm
Friend took a job over the winter as a head maintenance over a gated private community. He said they have a contract with a local dealer for their stihls, OPE and zero turn mowers etc.
Told me the grounds crews use a saw till it wont start anymore and just buy another saw. The way he talked there is a pile of them just setting with unknown issues.
He ask me if I would be interested in going through them for him and getting estimates on what can be saved 8). Reason is he is not to fond of the dealers work and their repairs they have done already on other things.
Told him sure. He said he just has to get approved from the next man up the chain now.
I just wonder what stihls they would be using. If like the ones like I see the state buys for the farm it would be the clamshells. :'(
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on March 07, 2016, 12:16:28 pm
Saul
Post by: Cut4fun on March 07, 2016, 12:18:03 pm
here in raw state
Worked yesterday on making the exhausts for the Stihl BDKH
this what im making
Saul
Looks great and nice to build your own parts too.
I envy you guys that can weld.
Least I have a nephew that welds now. He got hired already (welding fork lift bodies etc) by a company and he isnt even graduated HS yet.
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on March 07, 2016, 12:21:52 pm
i did a lot of welding in mine life on cars and
constructions
Saul
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 07, 2016, 02:19:44 pm
Was offered a deal that could put alot of stihls across my bench for repairs.
Friend took a job over the winter as a head maintenance over a gated private community. He said they have a contract with a local dealer for their stihls, OPE and zero turn mowers etc.
Told me the grounds crews use a saw till it wont start anymore and just buy another saw. The way he talked there is a pile of them just setting with unknown issues.
He ask me if I would be interested in going through them for him and getting estimates on what can be saved 8). Reason is he is not to fond of the dealers work and their repairs they have done already on other things.
Told him sure. He said he just has to get approved from the next man up the chain now.
I just wonder what stihls they would be using. If like the ones like I see the state buys for the farm it would be the clamshells. :'(
Sounds like a great opportunity to me that you have there. I hope it works out for you to make some extra cash.
I have started doing a little more work for a tree service guy in Cheyenne and he just dropped off 20 chains for sharpening. Easy money. I also got another Stihl 460 from him that he gave me because of a scored piston and cylinder. So that will be another keeper. I will port it when I have it apart and that does not mean dropping a cylinder as some people think.
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on March 09, 2016, 04:02:43 pm
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Post by: Cut4fun . on March 09, 2016, 04:03:02 pm
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on March 09, 2016, 04:04:18 pm
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on March 09, 2016, 04:05:42 pm
Finished the XL-12 and going back to the 702EVL. Still have 6 chains to sharpen.
lots to do .
like wise here ;D
saul
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 09, 2016, 05:28:04 pm
Going to sell. Stop switch still not working. But I found a new used muffler. All in the 702 thread.
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Post by: dutchsawdoctor on March 10, 2016, 02:10:16 am
saul
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on March 11, 2016, 04:34:03 am
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Post by: dutchsawdoctor on March 11, 2016, 11:26:30 am
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Post by: Cut4fun . on March 11, 2016, 01:48:39 pm
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Post by: 1manband on March 11, 2016, 07:15:49 pm
amazes me how smooth and easy pull starting these saws are.
<edit> remembered i ran lee's echo twin, and scotts/steves kms same ......somehow combined the two into one failed memory. hahaha.
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 11, 2016, 07:32:49 pm
I worked on my MS460 a little today. Put a new chain brake handle on it and ordered a new clutch drum and bearing for it.
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on March 12, 2016, 03:33:42 am
i find it imported to share this so other people can repair thairs to
Saul(http://up.picr.de/21143425sz.gif)(http://up.picr.de/21143425sz.gif)
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on March 12, 2016, 03:40:45 am
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Post by: Cut4fun . on March 16, 2016, 07:34:45 pm
Hahaha :D :D me to, but a bar is not in mine possesion :'( :'(
will ask one in semtember at a show ;D
saul
I think it is to high IMHO. Butttttttt here you go. $150 and ship.
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Seems to be a misunderstanding I do not have or sell bow bars. Jim has a few he has showed here for his own use.
This bow bar was for sale by another party. Not by me. I only find them and let folks looking know about them. I will not buy one without given a OK and $ in a PM. As I have no use for them and wont buy just to have on my shelf.
I have no problem getting them if given the OK and $.
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 16, 2016, 09:42:38 pm
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 17, 2016, 12:21:41 pm
I worked on a Husky 240 today that I swear had a fuel problem. But through a process of elimination and scratching my head a lot I decided to replace the coil. Bingo the coil was the culprit. The saw would start and run for about 15 seconds and shut off. You could pull the rope right away and it would do the same thing. Never seen a coil do that before. I put on a new coil and it ran great afterwards.
That would be a good one to have in the brand section under husqvarna 240 coil. I never heard of one that way either.
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 17, 2016, 03:49:58 pm
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 19, 2016, 04:33:23 pm
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on March 20, 2016, 04:42:53 pm
(http://up.picr.de/24926507pf.jpg)
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Post by: 3000 FPS on April 02, 2016, 09:06:16 pm
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on April 03, 2016, 02:51:02 am
saul
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 03, 2016, 02:23:49 pm
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on April 04, 2016, 02:46:39 am
Saul
Post by: aclarke on April 04, 2016, 09:14:14 am
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 04, 2016, 09:36:31 am
Nice workshop you made your self(http://up.picr.de/21143409aa.gif)
Saul
No I did not build. It is a all steel building I had built about 15 years ago.
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on April 05, 2016, 08:14:07 am
Nice workshop you made your self(http://up.picr.de/21143409aa.gif)
Saul
No I did not build. It is a all steel building I had built about 15 years ago.
i ment the great space you have there :D :D
saul
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 08, 2016, 08:22:29 pm
272 with bent bar and fubarred chain. 702 just needed 2 drive links taken out and carb adjusted to new owners mix. 353 chain sharpened.
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on April 09, 2016, 11:33:49 am
Saul
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on April 24, 2016, 01:52:38 am
(http://up.picr.de/25309702uo.jpg)
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on April 24, 2016, 10:33:55 am
Post by: chy_farm on April 28, 2016, 10:50:50 am
She sounds very nicely.
Chy
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 28, 2016, 02:11:21 pm
Hi Saul nice to meet you here!
She sounds very nicely.
Chy
Hey Chy are you a wood cutter, collector, like to restore old saws. Do you burn fire wood. Welcome.
Post by: Revpop on April 28, 2016, 05:35:09 pm
Additional score- I found a small tub full of McCulloch BP-1 chainsaw power head fairings and body covers for BP-1 saw #2 I had forgot I had that I had shelved many years ago when I inherited the saws while still on active duty in the US Navy.
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 28, 2016, 05:42:40 pm
Post by: chy_farm on April 28, 2016, 11:11:12 pm
Hello, may be a small collector and like to restore/tinker old saws, but do not burn them though.
Now going through a project on my Echo CS-651T, an old twin at the Chainsaw Collectors Forum.
http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/echo/echo-651-twin/msg71045/#msg71045
Thanks.
Chy
Post by: Revpop on April 29, 2016, 12:36:38 pm
Put a file to that slot and open it up a little. Also the bar should say on it how many DL it will take.
Was at work, got home and verified the bar has on it is 68DL. Yes the bar slot is a little tight on the grip length or stud shank and should be filed slightly. New chain is on the way. Thanks.
Post by: Cut4fun on April 29, 2016, 12:56:47 pm
Put a file to that slot and open it up a little. Also the bar should say on it how many DL it will take.
Was at work, got home and verified the bar has on it is 68DL. Yes the bar slot is a little tight on the grip length or stud shank and should be filed slightly. New chain is on the way. Thanks.
Not much different in length. 68DL v/s 70DL I would drop down to a 60DL in 3/8
Post by: Eccentric on May 14, 2016, 06:20:52 pm
Not much different in length. 68DL v/s 70DL I would drop down to a 60DL in 3/8
Yep, on saws that take 70DL on their 20" called length bars, 64DL is 'standard' for 18" length called length. Interestingly, 60DL (sometimes 59DL) is 'standard' for 16" called length bars on those saws (like it is on the Husky/Stihl 16" called length bars).
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on May 28, 2016, 02:23:06 am
Post by: mdavlee . on May 28, 2016, 07:16:44 am
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 28, 2016, 11:22:36 am
Wife informed me both mini tillers were leaking fuel and no start.
2 mini tillers yesterday readied for flower beds. Both just needing return lines. 1 broke off at tank other just ****. Coudnt see the crack till pushing on primer then it shows up.
Like the nice easy fixes. ;D
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 31, 2016, 09:49:13 am
Cant believe I didnt try that before hand. But I had just changed some **** fuel lines and thought I had messed the tune on carb. So then I changed fuel filter. Tuned more. Tested to check coil. Then ate lunch and it cooled back down. Started acting up again when I tried to use it again. So changed plug and bingo. Root of the problem.
It is blipping out c r a cked. ::)
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on May 31, 2016, 02:12:28 pm
Post by: chy_farm on June 06, 2016, 10:33:40 am
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on June 07, 2016, 05:06:45 am
Post by: chy_farm on June 08, 2016, 09:20:55 am
I had have long been wanting to get her, R12, for years but she seldom comes up to this market. One thing amazed me was that her fuel system uses capillary movement! which is not at all used in other models in my collection. Do you know some other specimen which has capillary fuel system?
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on June 09, 2016, 04:12:59 am
Post by: chy_farm on June 09, 2016, 09:45:25 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU4GV6MyzJE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU4GV6MyzJE)
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on June 09, 2016, 10:15:18 am
Post by: chy_farm on June 09, 2016, 10:49:28 am
But makes sense now.
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 18, 2016, 11:36:10 pm
Post by: chy_farm on July 09, 2016, 09:02:17 am
Post by: 3000 FPS on July 09, 2016, 11:35:32 am
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on July 09, 2016, 03:53:30 pm
Saul
Post by: chy_farm on July 10, 2016, 01:50:00 am
This morning I fabricated a new front cover for her, since the original one has been got a tiny crack on around the bolt hole. This new one is made also of a 0.8mm steel sheet.
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 10, 2016, 10:05:24 am
Dolpima seems to have somewhat close structure to R12, doesn't it.
Never seen that name before. Trying to learn. Now I see why.
Dolpima
MANUFACTURED BY: DOLPIMA WARSAW, POLAND SERIES
http://www.acresinternet.com/cscc.nsf/ed1d619968136da688256af40002b8f7/0364897f774f865d88257b9d000e6a44?OpenDocument
Post by: chy_farm on July 12, 2016, 05:20:31 am
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on July 12, 2016, 03:56:14 pm
almost time for a rest run?
Post by: chy_farm on July 15, 2016, 06:48:43 am
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on July 15, 2016, 12:35:22 pm
Post by: chy_farm on August 21, 2016, 11:19:38 am
Chy
Post by: jmester on August 21, 2016, 03:31:23 pm
Post by: Revpop on September 06, 2016, 08:44:06 pm
Post by: 3000 FPS on September 06, 2016, 10:10:33 pm
That is pretty cool that you even have the operators manual.
Post by: Revpop on September 06, 2016, 10:37:45 pm
Post by: chy_farm on September 07, 2016, 07:54:59 am
Chy
Post by: Revpop on September 07, 2016, 11:13:33 am
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 07, 2016, 12:32:56 pm
3800 and echo 6700 are on same playing field IMO of the 3 tested.
@chy_farm
https://youtu.be/5TIMNNv5BEQ
Post by: chy_farm on September 08, 2016, 07:34:58 am
Chy
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on September 08, 2016, 08:11:51 am
Post by: mdavlee . on September 08, 2016, 03:26:03 pm
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 08, 2016, 03:29:58 pm
I've got these on the bench. Got to cut squish on them next.
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160908/08140ffd9c1aaf5403a3fa76efb9ae0d.jpg)
Looks like a 2083 54mm saw on left in red. Yours?
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 08, 2016, 03:34:20 pm
3450's can be seen on #2 behind the 3.3 335 on cant.
Post by: mdavlee . on September 08, 2016, 09:14:40 pm
My buddies. Starter needs some work.I've got these on the bench. Got to cut squish on them next.
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160908/08140ffd9c1aaf5403a3fa76efb9ae0d.jpg)
Looks like a 2083 54mm saw on left in red. Yours?
Post by: Revpop on September 10, 2016, 11:26:09 am
Nice old saw there RevPop. The Countervibes make great saws and are easy to work on and maintain. They are some of my favorite Poulans.
That is pretty cool that you even have the operators manual.
One of the things that made me scratch my head and then had to verify in the owner's manual, which provided a very detailed illustration of components installation/orientation is how the bar and chain is oiled. Rather than through the bar adjusting hole and through to the bottom of the chain and into the bar groove from beneath this setup seems to simply dump or mist the chain at a point between the bar clamp plates, where the setup seems to drizzle oil onto top of the chain from the powerhead side only. I was wondering if anyone has had any issues with inadequate bar lubrication in this series of chainsaw? -Revpop
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 07, 2016, 10:40:28 pm
According to Acres 137cc.
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 07, 2016, 10:44:39 pm
Got a few to set on the bench when I unload. In the poulan board.
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 07, 2016, 10:53:30 pm
I did prime it through the carb and it fired so I think it will be a good runner. I need to get a different bar and chain for it.
Post by: mdavlee . on October 07, 2016, 11:46:11 pm
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 08, 2016, 10:09:39 am
That's a nice 801. Glad it was an easy fix.
It should make a good saw. I noticed also the antivibe in some spots are pretty loose. I have not taken the antivibe apart yet to see what rubber parts are worn out.
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 08, 2016, 04:46:16 pm
Stuff gets buried here in this board like other places.
Thanks
Post by: chy_farm on October 09, 2016, 10:48:25 am
Chy
Post by: chy_farm on October 09, 2016, 11:00:52 am
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 09, 2016, 12:39:04 pm
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 09, 2016, 04:43:47 pm
pic
(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6125.0;attach=19205;image)
Post by: chy_farm on October 09, 2016, 07:57:26 pm
Chy
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on November 12, 2016, 05:30:47 am
This saw I got for free for fixing the Stihl 090. This is a Jonsered 801 and is 80cc. I was told it had no spark when given to me. I found the kill switch was bad and shorting to ground all the time. It wreaked of bad fuel and the carburetor is going to have to be rebuilt on it. It has a tillotson.
I did prime it through the carb and it fired so I think it will be a good runner. I need to get a different bar and chain for it.
thay's a great catch for repair work :o :o
i have the 80 in mine collection
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on November 12, 2016, 05:38:08 am
(http://up.picr.de/27410711pc.jpg)
(http://up.picr.de/27410712zn.jpg)
(http://up.picr.de/27410713ub.jpg)
https://youtu.be/JNxghjuJ-6E
Post by: Cut4fun on November 15, 2016, 10:59:41 am
Everything checked out coil wise using that new newfangled spark analyzer. Dumped fuel and all looked good tank to carb. I know carb kits is new. Pulled plug not flooded and is new too. Checked psi etc. Couldnt see nothing to stop it from starting.
Put on ground, set fast idle, set choke 2nd pull it popped. I smiled at owner. He said we couldnt even get a pop. Turned off choke fired her up. Big smile and he was embarrassed. Saw checked out running too.
353 he said bar was flopping around when he was cutting and noticed he lost both bar nuts (but found 1) stop cutting. Said he though bar bent. It all checked out.
Put bar chain back on gave a extra nut in bag to carry with his stuff. Test cut with all fine.
2hrs later lot of laughing and drinking brew = priceless
When he ask me cost for my time and nuts. = Told him no charge for my time. Told him we will make it up someday on real work.
I just enjoyed starting the saw for him and if he needs me to show up to the woods to start his saw let me know. ;)
PS: he did bring the tall boys. I told him from now on while 12 dogs of Christmas is being sold to bring that with him instead of that cheap beer from now on. ;)
PSS: remember those 325 chain build off work chains I did for fun. This guy ended up with them. He said I dont know what you did to those chains but I want you to keep doing it. ;D
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 15, 2016, 08:25:22 pm
Post by: chy_farm on November 18, 2016, 07:12:03 am
Post by: Al Smith on November 21, 2016, 05:28:02 am
You never never know when you buy a pig in a poke,might work out or just be parts .Worst case is a piston and cylinder which isn't that much .
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on November 21, 2016, 05:41:56 am
https://youtu.be/PGqe4zLo9N8
Post by: chy_farm on November 21, 2016, 07:56:26 am
Chy
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on November 21, 2016, 08:53:26 am
Fun to see and listen to an old Solo making a good sound my friend, she idles very nicely.
Chy
thanks
its has a strong engine ;)
Post by: Al Smith on November 21, 2016, 08:35:02 pm
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on November 22, 2016, 12:40:26 am
The big Partner came today.it's stuck alright .I think this one is going to pickle about a month in a bucket full of kerosene before I even try to anything with it .
oooow...that bad ::)
Post by: chy_farm on November 22, 2016, 05:59:40 am
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on November 22, 2016, 06:36:27 am
(http://up.picr.de/27505081sc.jpg)
(http://up.picr.de/27505082br.jpg)
here you go ;D ;D
Post by: chy_farm on November 22, 2016, 07:50:32 am
Chy
Post by: Al Smith on November 22, 2016, 08:04:27 pm
Post by: chy_farm on November 24, 2016, 04:40:15 am
Post by: chy_farm on November 29, 2016, 07:46:13 pm
Post by: chy_farm on November 29, 2016, 07:52:28 pm
Post by: Efisher26 on November 29, 2016, 08:52:54 pm
The big Partner came today.it's stuck alright .I think this one is going to pickle about a month in a bucket full of kerosene before I even try to anything with it .I had a homelite xl tophandle, the piston seized while stored in case. I took plug out and poured in mystery oil. Came loose next day. Any experience with mystery oil?
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Just a home owner that likes the older better made machines
Craftsman 3.7 x2
Husqvarna 36
Post by: fisaw on December 03, 2016, 06:22:05 am
(http://u.cubeupload.com/finland1/200cyl.jpg)
(http://u.cubeupload.com/finland1/ms200cyl.jpg)
Post by: chy_farm on December 04, 2016, 08:28:00 am
Chy
Post by: Eccentric on December 07, 2016, 03:19:13 pm
I cleaned up this MS 200 cylinder,works like new. The previous owner said that he noticed that something was wrong with the saw ( bogging at high rpm's , choke even when hot) but continued to work..
(http://u.cubeupload.com/finland1/200cyl.jpg)
(http://u.cubeupload.com/finland1/ms200cyl.jpg)
Yet another case of somebody trying to "work through" an air leak....
Post by: fisaw on December 09, 2016, 05:19:04 am
Yet another case of somebody trying to "work through" an air leak....
Yep , I hope he learned something
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 09, 2016, 12:33:50 pm
Post by: Eccentric on December 09, 2016, 03:17:38 pm
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 09, 2016, 04:02:16 pm
Looking at the little 200 cylinder reminds me of the poulan 60cc cylinder on the 365 3500 380 3750 a bit. Never caught that before.
I thought so too. With those vertical fins on top of the cylinder and quad open port.
Post by: HolmenTree on December 15, 2016, 03:26:44 pm
Hasn't run for about 10 years, pretty dusty.
I built this saw in my garden shed 33 years ago when I was 25 years old
Was married with 2 kids aged 3 and 1with one on the way. Wife car hop waitressed in a orange mini skirt outfit at the A&W. I felled timber .
Going to strip the saw right down and rebuild it to be lighter, more compact and ergonomic. Will look into turning the crank around and running the b/c right hand drive.
Powerhead weighs 32.6 lbs (used the wife's bathroom scale lol). I'm quite positive I can get it down to 25 lbs or less on a good diet.
Running a 42mm Tilly HD carb with H L screws. Spare 34mm HR carb. Also got a 34mm Mikuni diaphragm Alkyl carb.
I got a brand new P/C and crank in it broke in nicely with about 15 minutes run time on it. Spare P/C with a fresh .050 over bore.
Notice my oiler setup on the last pic. I built it with a Schrader blow gun tee'd into the bottom of the kart oil tank connected to the bar pad with a oil line. The blow gun lever is connected to the carbs throttle trigger by a bicycle brake cable assembly. Bicycle pump pressurizes the chain oil tank.
That setup alone is about 2 pounds.
Getting rid of the heavy generator rewind starter.
Will run the pipe under the saw like what's done today. Might replace the glycol cylinder coolant with Slick 50 /bar oil to feed the b/c.
Good way to spend the winter off season 8)
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 15, 2016, 10:44:12 pm
Post by: HolmenTree on December 15, 2016, 11:30:34 pm
Yes looking forward to the rebuild. Too bad I didn't know what I know today back then.
but I have to say I probably had better focus and a more clear mind at age 25 to get it built with what little resources I had to work with.
I always kept a keyed 11 T 3/8 spur sprocket on it. Just set the depth gauges at .040 - .050 and let her rip in the small wood.
Sounds crazy but I never had a tach on it. Only know it's peaking lots but not getting away.
Want to experiment with the .404 high tooth but I think a 10T .404 sprocket would be all I need going right up into the 16"-20" wood.
Kevin if you want to move these posts to the race section go ahead. Call the thread YZ125 upgrade :D
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on December 16, 2016, 01:22:19 am
but wat i read, we will see ( hope hear to ) a way cooler Hotsaw ;D
Post by: Eccentric on December 16, 2016, 04:59:25 am
Post by: HolmenTree on December 16, 2016, 12:35:33 pm
With just shortening the header pipe and milling the head it will match today's 125 top end power.
I went up and beyond with a 42mm carb (stock was 34mm Mikuni SS) but never touched the porting which I'm told was near perfect in that one year.
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 16, 2016, 02:42:38 pm
Post by: HolmenTree on December 16, 2016, 03:11:59 pm
Been seeing folks use fillers to make their own light weight bars now days. What did you use as filler back then? @HolmenTreeI put a aluminum disc centered in each hole and then filled it from each side with JB Weld. Still holding after all those years
Bar is still stiff enough. But I wished I never did it.
Was a beautiful bar polished like chrome by General Bar Company out of Tigard, Oregon. Cost me $50 and I supplied the 2 7/8" Oregon roller nose.
I modified it with the filled holes a few years later.
Post by: HolmenTree on December 16, 2016, 07:54:50 pm
I feel the 11 tooth spur is a good fit for the high revving 125.
The 16" 3002 mount .050 bar is 0.160" thick
The 25" 3002 mount .063 bar is also 0.160"
My thinnest bar is a 16" 3003 mount .050 at 0.135" thick.
A standard bar is 0.182" thick.
The salmon belly bars were fine for our central region 3 down cut only in the modified event.
But time is wasted between cuts in the down, up, down.
I'll be getting a narrower bar with the 2 7/8" roller.
Dang I got the 13 pin rim sitting too close to the camera making it look bigger then it is.
I'll post another pic.
Post by: HolmenTree on December 16, 2016, 08:26:45 pm
Post by: mdavlee . on December 17, 2016, 06:53:28 am
Post by: chy_farm on December 17, 2016, 08:22:57 am
Chy
Post by: HolmenTree on December 17, 2016, 10:24:46 am
Good to see you again chy_farm ! I like your cool twin pipe build on your Echo.
Which reminds me, I'm going to start a thread of this YZ rebuild on the Modified Ported Work or Race Saws section.
I fixed the lighting in my shop for better photos, funny how a old technology incandescent light bulb over my work bench can't be compatible with the camera on my Samsung phone :D
I got my motivation from Ken Steeves with his historical hot saw rebuilds. So I'm going to to take my time with this saw rebuild. Even though it's only historical for me :)
Amazing what you can do with the Internet today. I was finding brand new OEM parts for my 1982 YZ125 J.
I'm going to order lots of cylinder head O rings and base gaskets before their all gone.
Even found a set of 1982 YZ125J sand casted factory works race cylinders . :o
I plan on racing this saw again one day for the fun of it. Might not have the power of a big Rotax . But I will get it under 30 lbs with b/c included. Alot better then trying to cold start and steer a 60 lb plus Rotax.
For any of you guys who know who Ron Hartill is. He was 7 time World Lumberjack champ at Hayward Wisconsin in the 70's and 80's.
I was in Ron's shop in the summer of 1988 after a competition. Ron was showing me his 135cc B-Bomb kart hot saw. A saw he was beating 250cc bikes saws in 20" wood in the States.
He liked my YZ engine alot and he said the left hand drive was definitely not a handicap.
His advice was I have to make the Yamaha as compact as possible. He said the cold start and between cuts with a consistent reliable saw is the deciding moment when you win or lose. Drive sprocket gearing is very important. Alot of guys run too big of a sprocket on their hotsaws for the type of wood their cutting.
He said it's not the most powerful saw with unpredictably to cut at a show that wins.
It's the consistent reliable saw with a good operator who also knows how to put a good edge on his chain who has good luck.
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 17, 2016, 07:10:08 pm
Post by: chy_farm on December 18, 2016, 04:03:51 am
>Which reminds me, I'm going to start a thread of this YZ rebuild on the Modified Ported Work or Race Saws section.
Thanks Holmen, it's very nice to know this, look forward to reading your new thread.
My twin Echo has a lead valve after her carb, and this lead is relatively a big one comprises of 4 big lobes, so this means she was made not for very high rev machine. Asked Echo on the highest rev spin, their reply was nearly 11000rpm for this twin. Shame I wanted to spin her over 13500,,,,Anyways I have to do something better for her port. Your coming thread will surely help me do this job!
Chy
Post by: HolmenTree on December 18, 2016, 04:13:20 pm
I haven't started the new thread yet, presently working on a "studio light setup" for taking photos of the saw on the workbench. I got influenced by the article I posted below.
I have a couple of umbrellas and some white spray paint ;D
Plus a proper lamp.
Great article on the Echo 610 twin. Chy, I think you were talking about the double reed valve setup.
Not rushing into my saw rebuild I have come to a conclusion to build with carbon fibre. I'm tossing around the idea of building a integrated rear handle , top handle and fuel tank with the carbon fibre.
Lot's of info on the net about working with carbon fibre. But I do have a good connection with my oldest brother who built drones and their software for the U.S. military since the 1990's. 8)
Post by: chy_farm on December 19, 2016, 03:23:15 am
http://www.dragonfly75.com/moto/reeds.html (http://www.dragonfly75.com/moto/reeds.html)
If I were able to fabricate a special carbon fiber plate that would be the best one for her!
Chy
Post by: HolmenTree on December 19, 2016, 07:23:39 am
I still have the factory stainless steel reeds in the saw which I trusted more back then.
Lot's of poor advice 30 years ago from the moto cross experts when I built and ran the YZ hotsaw . Totally different operation application from each other. Things like tune pipe stinger length to ignition timing.
Post by: chy_farm on December 19, 2016, 08:29:56 am
(http://www.dragonfly75.com/motorbike/images/backpressure.gif)
the original site is here;
http://www.dragonfly75.com/motorbike/stingersizing.html
Chy
Post by: HolmenTree on December 20, 2016, 10:38:59 pm
I'm still getting my tools and shop organized and have to buy a new lamp tomorrow for my "studio lighting " for taking pics of my project....before I start my new thread ;D
That's how I operate, do it right . ;)
I can't believe how much new OEM parts are available for my engine on the net.
Wouldn't this new Yamaha factory works race sand cast cylinder be nice on my engine. If only I could justify the $971 price tag. :o
Scroll through the 9 pics. Would be about 2 lbs lighter then my cylinder with the chrome bore and no cast iron liner.
http://m.ebay.ca/itm/142218972962?_mwBanner=1
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 21, 2016, 11:00:04 am
You must have a stash of magazines like I had on cars. Boxes and boxes full of 60's thru 80's
Post by: HolmenTree on December 21, 2016, 03:22:43 pm
Trying to get my "bikesaw resurrection thread" posted but with Christmas just around the corner it's busy busy busy.
Just finished spending the morning getting a hearing aid installed in my left ear. Holy cow what a life changer!!
Should have had one years ago.
When I was a young kid on the farm I damaged that left ear hearing significantly from shooting and running our old John Deere 2 cylinder tractors.
When I was logging I got my first hearing test at about 18. The evidence of damage in that ear was shown then.
40 years later it's still the same until this morning ;D
Post by: chy_farm on December 21, 2016, 07:06:30 pm
It's fun to fabricate my-original-pipe but a factory pipe usually is said to be calculated and designed more specifically for all band of spin. Now my interest is if your Yamaha cylinder-pipe unit has the Power Valve to cover the lower band of spin Holmen?
Here is a good illustration with report on a Yamaha cylinder, from a site [Porting and Cylinder Scavenging]
http://edj.net/2stroke/BellPerformanceTuning/Bell%20Chapter%203.pdf (http://edj.net/2stroke/BellPerformanceTuning/Bell%20Chapter%203.pdf)
Chy
Post by: HolmenTree on December 21, 2016, 09:37:21 pm
The first thing I did was lock it wide open and then polished the exhaust port like a mirror.
Now I question the polishing as the factory port had a rough black painted coating inside the exhaust port.
There is debate on whether to Polish or leave the rough coating.
My exhaust port is oval and with the locked wide open power valve the saws throttle response to WOT is very quick from a cold start into the first cut.
Post by: chy_farm on December 22, 2016, 03:15:47 am
Chy
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on December 22, 2016, 12:03:47 pm
https://youtu.be/qfGgIxrd1wM
Post by: HolmenTree on December 22, 2016, 02:21:44 pm
I was thinking about that Rex laid back cylinder design for a few years now. I may rebuild my Yamaha bikesaw like that design. :)
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on December 22, 2016, 03:21:05 pm
Very nice Saul.
I was thinking about that Rex laid back cylinder design for a few years now. I may rebuild my Yamaha bikesaw like that design. :)
that wold be great Holmen(http://up.picr.de/21143402sv.gif)
Post by: HolmenTree on December 22, 2016, 04:26:07 pm
Lower center of gravity , better view of the b/c, more room for a larger muffler or exhaust header pipe with a shorter bar pad.
Post by: chy_farm on December 23, 2016, 02:18:48 am
Chy
Post by: chy_farm on December 27, 2016, 09:10:34 am
Fun to see this information, I am subscribing his video but did not know this couple of videos.
Chy
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on December 28, 2016, 12:40:29 am
>The chainsawguy made two Tube post on that ;)
Fun to see this information, I am subscribing his video but did not know this couple of videos.
Chy
that's wy i posted here ;D
Post by: chy_farm on December 28, 2016, 09:40:20 pm
I did have 4 torches so far, large, middle, small and one for cutting. This extra mini is for welding 0.15mm to 0.5mm sheet metal.
Now I should squeeze out time for trying this smallest one!
Post by: aclarke on December 28, 2016, 11:39:40 pm
Post by: chy_farm on December 29, 2016, 02:12:27 am
chy
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 29, 2016, 12:22:17 pm
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on December 29, 2016, 01:09:36 pm
Post by: chy_farm on December 30, 2016, 10:11:11 am
Lately found an article, Automotive Body Repair News - December 1995, where this editor says he prefers aluminum to steel for gas welding, means as far gas welding aluminum is easy material to be welded not unless we know and keep several rules for this welding. It seems very informative to me.
Chy
Post by: aclarke on December 30, 2016, 12:16:35 pm
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 30, 2016, 12:20:04 pm
Went ahead and merged them.
Post by: HolmenTree on December 30, 2016, 02:00:50 pm
I use a much larger torch to braze silver solder when I replace the tungsten tips on my stump grinder teeth. Pretty tiring after awhile especially with the heavy hoses.
I know aluminum isn't used for tune pipe construction and the only lightweight metal that can be used is titanium.
Some day we may see a way to cast some kind of aluminum alloy for tune pipes.
Post by: chy_farm on December 30, 2016, 10:22:06 pm
Seems you do good brazing job now and then, wish to see some pics of your works, since I did not have any experiences of this kind.
And yes, I agree Holmen, I do not think aluminum is applicable material for tuned pipes at least at this point unless we are able to find a better heat-resistive aluminum alloy.
My calculation for this Echo twin was like this showing below, have estimated the max temperature of exhaust gas to be nearly 500 degrees Celsius at 11000 rpm.
Thought this temperature might affect aluminum to degrade its quality.
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 30, 2016, 10:37:46 pm
Post by: chy_farm on December 30, 2016, 10:47:24 pm
Chy
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 30, 2016, 11:53:30 pm
Post by: chy_farm on December 31, 2016, 03:10:04 am
and one thing came on my mind is that I may perhaps dissipate excessive heat by adding some pieces of aluminum heat sink on to the outer surface of the exit part. I have several types of them in hand, hope they will help.
Chy
Post by: HolmenTree on December 31, 2016, 09:13:48 am
Plus aluminum loses the heat too quickly, when you want heat to stay in a pipe for best performance.
Here's a pic from 1988 when I insulated my tune pipe on my YZ bikesaw to speed up warm ups and making the best power for the cold start with 3 cuts.
Post by: aclarke on December 31, 2016, 11:53:04 am
Post by: jmester on December 31, 2016, 02:41:11 pm
Trying to get organized. Going from this.
Post by: jmester on December 31, 2016, 02:43:46 pm
(http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh535/jmester/IMG_0539.jpg) (http://s1250.photobucket.com/user/jmester/media/IMG_0539.jpg.html)
Post by: Eccentric on December 31, 2016, 04:27:00 pm
Post by: aclarke on December 31, 2016, 05:50:28 pm
Post by: jmester on December 31, 2016, 08:02:57 pm
Post by: mdavlee . on December 31, 2016, 09:41:45 pm
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 31, 2016, 10:59:19 pm
Post by: Eccentric on December 31, 2016, 11:04:50 pm
Much better. I've got totes with used parts and new parts in them.
Very Nice Jmester. A lot of my stuff is in card board boxes. It does pay to have it organized when you need something.
My shop is a combination of the two. Finding stuff is an adventure....
Post by: chy_farm on January 01, 2017, 05:53:33 am
>Plus aluminum loses the heat too quickly, when you want heat to stay in a pipe for best performance.
>Here's a pic from 1988 when I insulated my tune pipe on my YZ bikesaw to speed up warm ups and making the best power for the cold start with 3 cuts.
Happy New Year Holmen and guys,
Hum-mm Holmen, your wisdom and experience makes me pretty confused, lol!
Joking aside it's informative in making calculations on this pipe thing.
Chy
Post by: fisaw on January 03, 2017, 12:19:46 pm
Post by: HolmenTree on January 03, 2017, 02:11:32 pm
I gave my 346 NE away to my FIL and he's pretty happy with it. He thought it was a toy at first but after I showed him its price tag he now treats it with respect :D
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 03, 2017, 03:20:54 pm
Post by: Eccentric on January 03, 2017, 06:51:58 pm
Post by: fisaw on January 04, 2017, 09:44:02 am
I was going to say 346XP with no primer bulb.Yep, no air purge pump, who needs them and why ? :)
357XP?
Late 346XP 45cc 2005 or 2006 , ( new style caps / starter decal). Needs a new muffler ( aftermarket europe style) , fuel filter+rim sprocket. Oem husky muffler nla.
(http://u.cubeupload.com/finland1/346XP4.jpg)
Post by: HolmenTree on January 04, 2017, 11:57:13 am
I was going to say 346XP with no primer bulb.Yep, no air purge pump, who needs them and why ? :)
Bulbs I don't use during my tree season. But they come in handy for running the saw dry to put away in winter storage. And saves pulling on the rope when priming the carb on spring startup.
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Post by: pleasant on January 05, 2017, 04:42:54 am
Post by: jmester on January 07, 2017, 09:46:50 pm
(http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh535/jmester/IMG_0542.jpg) (http://s1250.photobucket.com/user/jmester/media/IMG_0542.jpg.html)
Made some more progress. Needs some more work and refinement.
Post by: aclarke on January 07, 2017, 11:20:32 pm
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 08, 2017, 12:50:34 am
Post by: jmester on January 08, 2017, 02:42:45 pm
Mostly 440/460/660 parts. Like to have a little bit of everything to replace or rebuild a saw in case I have a bad day and stuff goes wrong. Doesn't happen very often but when it does it is real ugly.
Post by: fisaw on January 24, 2017, 02:33:27 pm
(http://u.cubeupload.com/finland1/346muffler.jpg)
Post by: fisaw on January 25, 2017, 11:39:51 am
(http://u.cubeupload.com/finland1/346xp.jpg)
Post by: fisaw on March 26, 2017, 01:04:55 pm
(http://u.cubeupload.com/finland1/34650cc.jpg)
(http://u.cubeupload.com/finland1/50.jpg)
(http://u.cubeupload.com/finland1/940346.jpg)
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 26, 2017, 11:21:39 pm
Post by: fisaw on April 02, 2017, 03:23:55 pm
final cleaning
(http://u.cubeupload.com/finland1/20170402175832.jpg)
(http://u.cubeupload.com/finland1/20170402180041.jpg)
Post by: chy_farm on April 09, 2017, 08:34:32 am
Chy
Post by: mdavlee . on April 09, 2017, 11:13:42 pm
Post by: chy_farm on April 10, 2017, 06:30:09 am
Appreciate your advice if you have a good idea.
Chy
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on April 10, 2017, 02:27:46 pm
Post by: chy_farm on April 10, 2017, 06:14:34 pm
Chy
Post by: chy_farm on April 10, 2017, 08:44:42 pm
Chy
Post by: mdavlee . on April 11, 2017, 01:34:58 am
Post by: chy_farm on April 11, 2017, 02:04:06 am
The cross top end isn't too bad. One builder in the northeast sent a cylinder to them to pattern. I think yours woukd clean up just fine though.Thanks Nitro Hotsaw, appreciate your information.
Chy
Post by: chy_farm on April 11, 2017, 04:25:46 am
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Abzieher-fur-Stihl-084-088-MS-880-MS880-flywheel-puller-/190390257004?hash=item2c5424c56c (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Abzieher-fur-Stihl-084-088-MS-880-MS880-flywheel-puller-/190390257004?hash=item2c5424c56c)
Chy
p.s.I know you fabricated one on your own the day before, and showed on FB site.
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on April 11, 2017, 07:37:18 am
Post by: Jacks54 on April 11, 2017, 09:03:05 am
check seals !!!before you do it??!!
that saw wil run ok then
jack
Post by: chy_farm on April 11, 2017, 09:13:52 am
Chy
edit; Yep, I am either thinking of the seals, have to give them a check though.
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 11, 2017, 01:50:33 pm
Genuine OEM Stihl 088 084 MS 880 Piston 60mm 1124 030 2007 11240302007
If not oem rings I use Caber rings for replacements
Post by: chy_farm on April 11, 2017, 08:40:15 pm
IMO get a stihl oem piston for that 084. $50-$60 range here now.Thanks Cut4fun, appreciate your information. This will help me a lot!
Genuine OEM Stihl 088 084 MS 880 Piston 60mm 1124 030 2007 11240302007
If not oem rings I use Caber rings for replacements
Chy
Post by: chy_farm on May 03, 2017, 05:48:44 am
Post by: Jacks54 on May 03, 2017, 07:16:11 am
Post by: chy_farm on May 03, 2017, 07:37:24 am
looks big and heavy chyYou are quite right Jacks, will try aluminum next!
Chy
Post by: 3000 FPS on May 03, 2017, 11:03:27 am
Post by: HolmenTree on May 03, 2017, 03:33:43 pm
Post by: chy_farm on May 04, 2017, 07:46:06 am
After this I found she has got odd spark plugs, both are Champions, but the numbers are not the same. It seems that the previous owner replaced one of them with one in his junk box, lol, but not the correct one.
Showing these, Champion J-8, and CJ8Y in the pic below.
Her front cylinder head does not have much room for larger plug, so small one in the right must be the correct one.
Let's have a look at it in the IPL,
It says; #44 Spark Plug BPM 7A.
Spark Plug Cross Reference site on the net says; BPM 7A of NGK matches CJ6Y of Champion. So this CJ8Y is not very wrong, but seems a little too hotter for the spin speed I need. I think I should better replace them to the plugs of default number.
Chy
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 04, 2017, 01:44:15 pm
NGK BPM7A cross reference for other choices
See if you can get a Bosch WS5E = Thats what I ran in my racesaws in stock appearing
In this link is a long list of crosses http://www.sparkplug-crossreference.com/convert/NGK_PN/BPM7A
Post by: chy_farm on May 04, 2017, 06:47:50 pm
BOSCH WS5E - Alternative spark plugs (ftp://www.sparkplug-crossreference.com/convert/BOSCH_PN/WS5E)
http://www.sparkplug-crossreference.com/convert/BOSCH_PN/WS5E/
I love to visit this conversion site too. Sounds more fun to make some comparison between plugs.
Chy
Post by: chy_farm on May 07, 2017, 04:51:44 am
"Torx long bit"!!
Welding was kind of tricky to me, this ultra hard steel easily melts down when I wanted it being kept in so call melt-pool/weld-pool state.
They go into the 4 small holes for fixing cylinder head of these motors.
Chy
Post by: Jacks54 on May 08, 2017, 08:07:57 am
Post by: chy_farm on May 08, 2017, 08:13:33 pm
like to see it running chy!!Hi Jack thanks, I want too!
Do not know why they use a bearing with this complicated design for the clutch-side, which is grooved like this on its outer ring. If not grooved we can get a standard one from any where far cheap!
Chy
Post by: Jacks54 on May 13, 2017, 08:55:48 am
Post by: chy_farm on May 13, 2017, 09:50:10 am
Well it's not so hard job for me to make the gasket, the piston pin is available if I do not mind cutting off it's length a bit, but the buffer mount....
So tried to make one for alternative use, which comprises of a spring, one from a 2mm piano wire, but failed this afternoon. Will try it again the day after tomorrow.
Post by: Jacks54 on May 13, 2017, 12:52:12 pm
Post by: chy_farm on May 13, 2017, 06:30:40 pm
ok chy but why so difficult whit piano wire?????Well Jack I made a mismanagement in heating, piano wire does not like to be cooled with water just after it got red-hot. It looses elasticity in this way.
I do know this but suddenly I made it a fall in the water base under me when I was giving a spring made from it red-hot! was an accident!
I should have given it a good heat again but did not - do not know why, might hear devil's voice - and it got split into pieces when I give it a try with one hand.
Chy
Post by: chy_farm on May 13, 2017, 06:56:36 pm
Chy
Post by: chy_farm on May 14, 2017, 08:35:28 am
Post by: chy_farm on May 15, 2017, 09:13:41 am
Post by: chy_farm on May 16, 2017, 06:27:42 am
Post by: chy_farm on May 25, 2017, 10:19:00 am
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 25, 2017, 12:51:57 pm
(https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder17/500x/68837017.jpg)
Post by: chy_farm on May 26, 2017, 07:14:32 am
Today she passed pressure test, both positive and negative pressure. In the afternoon reassembled her parts up, so now she looks more like a saw lol.
Post by: chy_farm on May 28, 2017, 07:39:09 pm
Chy
Post by: chy_farm on May 31, 2017, 07:05:32 am
She came to me some three or four years ago with this part broken, and this fragment fell off when I removed the clutch unit.
So pondering over the cause and factors of this, what I have in my opinion is that the key in between the shaft and the clutch is hardened steel, but the shaft is not, can not believe but true. You can file this shaft so easily, amazing.
And what's worse previous owner might have put some grease here when he placed the clutch, so clutch and the shaft was not able to keep decent friction to bear the brunt of this big power, and corrupted.
Post by: chy_farm on May 31, 2017, 07:08:41 am
I have been thinking to use this new shaft, but my second thought suddenly came to me, which is that it also might be fun to try some welding on this shaft.
Chy
Post by: 3000 FPS on May 31, 2017, 10:52:37 pm
Post by: chy_farm on June 01, 2017, 09:16:35 am
Looks like you have under control. Nice repair.Good evening 3000FPS, and thank you for leaving comment.
Crank shafts we see these days, IMO, mostly have hardened surface, but this one seems it has never been undertaken hardening treatment. You can file its surface with a standard file very easily, that really amazed me.
But on the other hand the key sitting in here is made of hard steel, so it's my presumption for the reason she got corrupted on this part was that the previous owner might have put some grease or oil on the surface of this key and groove, then he tightened the nut. So that this caused some friction-loss of this part and the motor power overwhelmed to cause this damage.
My alternative is to replace this key from a hardened steel made to a rather softer bronze made, so that in the worst case the key get damage not the shaft.
Pic first; Melted a bronze sheet to make a small ball, the gave it some taps while keeping decent flame on it.
pic second; Bronze key sitting in the groove.
Pic third; Gave cut to this key.
Pic last; Clutch sits nicely on the place.
Post by: chy_farm on June 06, 2017, 04:59:54 am
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 06, 2017, 08:53:47 am
Post by: 3000 FPS on June 06, 2017, 10:19:44 am
Post by: chy_farm on June 06, 2017, 10:22:05 am
Like your ideas of coming up with your own color combos. 8)
Looks nice.
Thank you very much for your nicest flowers gents, will do the best!!
Chy
Post by: chy_farm on June 08, 2017, 06:41:50 am
Now I can go further to the pipe things for her !
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 08, 2017, 08:56:09 am
Post by: chy_farm on June 08, 2017, 10:13:29 am
Handle made from copper or just painted to look like it?Thank you Kevin for showing an interest on her! yes it's made from a copper pipe. Glad if you enjoy pics below.
Post by: 3000 FPS on June 08, 2017, 11:32:55 am
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 08, 2017, 12:37:53 pm
Post by: chy_farm on June 08, 2017, 07:24:23 pm
The copper handle is a nice match with the copper cover.Thank you 3000 FPS, I post some pics below showing the way I made it.
Wow :o well done. 8)Thank you for comment.
Chy
Post by: 3000 FPS on June 08, 2017, 11:52:53 pm
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 09, 2017, 09:27:36 am
You sir are the professor of the class IMHO
Post by: chy_farm on June 09, 2017, 06:25:09 pm
That looks like it took some time to accomplish.Thanks 3000FPS, yes I started this project nearly four years ago. But I took some intervals of repose that sum up nearly two years.
Wow :o didnt even catch that was homemade too. I thought it had just been painted copper. 8) 8)That's a good honor to me, many thanks Kevin!
You sir are the professor of the class IMHO
Chy
Post by: chy_farm on June 09, 2017, 06:49:20 pm
First thing to do was knowing the exhaust port timing, from opening to closing. I put a handmade disk on to the flywheel, see a marking at the top which tells zero degrees when this port begins to open.
Turn the shaft to the right direction until it closes again, see the disk how it tells the angle.
It tell 160 degrees!
Now open the [Java Pipe] site, which provides an on-line software to calculate the design, to put several required factors in the blanks.
E.g. I put below factors;
Velocity of Rotation : 9600 rpm
Exhaust Port Angle : 160 degrees
Transfer Port Angle : 150 degrees (I did not measure this but it seems in most cases a tad smaller than ex-port angle.)
Exhaust Port Area : 620 square milimeters
Exhaust Gas Temperature : 653 degrees K ( equivalent to 380 degrees Celsius)
The last line, the Exhaust Gas Temperature is a tricky part of this designing to me. In the latest try for Echo Twin, I set 773 degrees K which is equivalent to 500 degrees Celsius, but perhaps it was too hot.
Anyways I got a couple of designs for her, see these below.
Chy
Post by: chy_farm on June 10, 2017, 05:50:36 pm
Post by: 3000 FPS on June 10, 2017, 07:41:17 pm
I have a few questions.
1) The RPM's you chose is 10,000 rpm. Is that based on what the saw will turn in the wood or with out a load with bar and chain on.
2) What gauge sheet metal are you using to build the pipe.
3) Are you gas welding the Pipe together.
Post by: chy_farm on June 10, 2017, 09:24:18 pm
---I have a few questions.Thank you 3000FPS for having interest on this.
1) The RPM's you chose is 10,000 rpm. Is that based on what the saw will turn in the wood or with out a load with bar and chain on.
2) What gauge sheet metal are you using to build the pipe.
3) Are you gas welding the Pipe together.
(1)
I previously posted two ways for the trial designing, one for 9600 and the other for 10000rpm,
E.g. I put below factors;I chose the first design for this, so the rotation will be 9600 when this pipe exerts its maximum effect to the exhaust gas. According to Mike's site,
Velocity of Rotation : 9600 rpm
Exhaust Gas Temperature : 653 degrees K ( equivalent to 380 degrees Celsius)
Chainsaw Collectors Corner, this series of McCulloch show their spark timing as 26 degrees in advance. To my understanding this means their maximum rotation speed can be limited to not more than 10000, since this timing makes the motor unable to release its detonation heat outside of the cylinder chamber. This assumption leads me to set the maximum velocity of rotation to 9600. So as an answer to this I would say yes it's should be the optimized speed and power of the saw running in wood. Calculation tells but I am not very sure until I try her in some wood, lol.
(2)
The gauge for sheet metal in this area is given by metric system, so the thickness I use for pipes are 0.5mm and 0.8mm for the body of pipe, sometimes 1.0mm for holder/stay attached to it. The quality is they call High Tension Steel Sheet, mostly for car body.
This sheet with 0.5mm thick is easy to use, you may easily roll them to pipes and corns with hands, also with hammers sometimes.
Incidentally I use a simple roll bender for my pipe project, which is also my hand-made.
(3)
Yes for this project. But for the latest project I did for Echo Twin, I made them separate. The latter half of the pipe or the reflector part can be removed at the center joint. See a pic here.
Chy
Post by: chy_farm on June 11, 2017, 08:33:17 am
Did some more fabrication this afternoon.
Post by: HolmenTree on June 11, 2017, 12:30:07 pm
If McBob saw that he would be wishing he could comment on it here.
Post by: chy_farm on June 11, 2017, 05:44:35 pm
That's a beautiful project saw you're building Chy!!Good morning and thanks HolmenTree, you are exactly right, yes he shot me a video on Facebook, see this a fun thing to see.
If McBob saw that he would be wishing he could comment on it here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qp0EYPZd_0&t=25s
Post by: chy_farm on June 13, 2017, 04:31:23 am
In the same manner I did in previous case, Echo Twin, drew lines on a sheet metal. Assembled and welded.
A pressure test was given but unfortunately some holes were found on the seam lines.
Post by: chy_farm on June 13, 2017, 07:09:58 pm
Post by: 3000 FPS on June 13, 2017, 08:56:41 pm
Post by: chy_farm on June 14, 2017, 09:14:17 am
Chy
Post by: chy_farm on June 15, 2017, 09:30:34 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qiv1-j3evd4
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 15, 2017, 02:55:04 pm
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 15, 2017, 02:57:30 pm
Adam has a thread here on making his dyno in the ported board I believe.
https://youtu.be/h8ATDL6bdIA
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 15, 2017, 02:59:34 pm
Post by: chy_farm on June 16, 2017, 06:25:50 am
The thread on Adam building a dyno http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/tools/inertia-dyno/Thank you Kevin, a nice thread and a video! I am sure they will help my learn some more about dynometers.
Chy
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 16, 2018, 02:25:49 pm
Post by: chy_farm on March 18, 2018, 07:55:37 am
Backside of bench #3 and #1 in back ground. Then #2. Snapped some pics while getting some of the 338 I was working on.Hi Kevin, posting a better(?) pic here, lol.
Post by: president on March 18, 2018, 04:47:07 pm
I advised him that the plastic cage bearings were
problematic ,but at 210.00 dollars Canadian for oem
p/c he couldnt refuse .(dealer cost) fattened the h screw
out sa far as limmiters would allow and hope for the best
with the bottom end
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 18, 2018, 05:54:09 pm
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 19, 2018, 05:17:40 pm
Stihl 019T.
Post by: chy_farm on March 19, 2018, 07:36:55 pm
Had this one shipped to me from Arizona. Typical BS with the dealer telling the owner it needed a new fuel tank and what ever. I rebuilt this saw 3 years ago. The fuel line was leaking. I replaced it with a different type this time and will hopefully last longer.Cute one！
Stihl 019T.
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 19, 2018, 08:12:20 pm
Had this one shipped to me from Arizona. Typical BS with the dealer telling the owner it needed a new fuel tank and what ever. I rebuilt this saw 3 years ago. The fuel line was leaking. I replaced it with a different type this time and will hopefully last longer.Cute one！
Stihl 019T.
There are some people who do not like working on these saws. In order to replace the fuel line the entire engine and fuel tank have to come out all together and then installed the same way. It can be a bit of a pain if not familiar.
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 19, 2018, 08:47:56 pm
So working on floor since carb came in for the 55 trimmer I been doing for a guy. Both ready to go now.
Post by: chy_farm on March 20, 2018, 08:21:11 am
There are some people who do not like working on these saws. In order to replace the fuel line the entire engine and fuel tank have to come out all together and then installed the same way. It can be a bit of a pain if not familiar.Something is very close to my experience on a old little Italian McCulloch, after all it seems that she was put to the market as one of consumer saws.
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Post by: Cut4fun . on May 07, 2018, 03:46:50 pm
I dont have a clue how to tell on the stihl which. Poly fly so assume later 066 or 660.
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 14, 2019, 05:17:02 pm
Post by: Midpines on September 17, 2019, 01:16:18 am
Few saws came in this morning to go through. A few I dont care to work on, a few just $ saws to me but dont care for them and only 1 in the bunch caught my eye.
I don't know which one out of that bunch caught your eye, but I do know which one caught my eye. It's that one dark grey with it's engine to the wall, bar and chain facing out, the one kind of in the center a bit to the right of center.
It's muffler looks like the Poulan muffler on my oldest most favorite saw. Mine is a proper green Poulan Timber Master 365 with a 60 cc engine. That grey saw looks like it might be a Sears Craftsman version of that same awesome saw.
I ran out of chainsaws to work on last week. Getting my Poulan 245A working was the last straw. So I got a ladder out and went up all the way to the top of the shelving in my shop, all the way up to the 12 foot above the floor level and dug out that box with the two Wright Saws that also has the parts of several 2 cycle boat motors in it as well. A big heavy box. My dad must have set the box up there and then filled it making several trips on the ladder he used.
I've got two complete Wright saws, a Model GS-5020 and a GS-5020A. The A model I've dated to 1960 to 1962. The 5020 without the A is clearly a slightly older model. Only the top cover and fuel tanks seem to be different.
These are reciprocating saws, the saw blade piston extends out from the engine piston. And they are the biggest and most powerful saws I own, being of a 115.7 cc's. Big old monsters.
My dad had one of them when I was in high School. I assume he found the other one as a parts saw so he could fix the first saw. The thing is I can't tell which is the parts saw and which it the saw to fix up, both are repairable. My list of parts needed are the kinds of parts I can find in the nuts and bolts aisle at the hardware store. The hardest to find being a left hand thread nut and a key for one of the flywheels.
I will also need to fabricate a cover for the points housing for one of the saws. For which i have a pattern to help me make it on the other saw. And I will need to make an air filter element for the blade piston, but again I have a pattern for it on the other saw.
These will be nice looking pair of saws if I can get them to run.
Post by: Cut4fun on June 22, 2021, 08:54:23 am
To get as many as can cutting.Post by: Cut4fun . on September 08, 2021, 09:33:52 am
Only 1 in there has my attention and it has low psi by feel.
The stories some of these saws could tell about past owners. :P
Lot of these I wont mess with like the poulan 306 2750 46cc homelite 150 Wen etc etc.
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 21, 2022, 09:18:21 am
They pull and they pull but they stihl wont go.
Post by: Cut4fun on July 28, 2023, 08:57:26 am
Dumped checked put fresh in and all was good. FS80 and FS56RC. Efree IMO for the save after setting that long.