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Title: Stihl MS250
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 23, 2013, 05:14:47 pm
Just had a stihl MS250 dropped off.  No start. Simple fix new plug.    8) 8) 8)   Chain sharpened.  To easy.
Title: Re: Stihl MS250
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 24, 2013, 05:42:42 pm
stihl 250 

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Title: Re: Stihl MS250
Post by: David Young on July 25, 2013, 12:06:54 pm
great little saws,
I muffler modded mine and put an adjustable carb on it, power to weight it was awesome.  I traded it off and with I still miss it, someday I might happen into another one.

Glad it was an easy fix

David
Title: Re: Stihl MS250
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 25, 2013, 12:31:23 pm
Adjustable Walbro WT215 isnt it?  Around $30

I'm just not a fan of having to work on the whole stihl homeowner series of saws.  Nice cutting saws and my bro has one he bought new and never had a problem yet.  It's just I took my $50 poulan pro 260 40cc 42cc with stihl PS3 and out cut (timed cuts) my other 025 with stihl 325 RSC in a test session one time for fun.  The PP260 looked better built IMO.   

Owner of this one is wanting to trade this one in on a husky 353.  If he does I'm going to redneck set the fuel line up to  run tygon and husky filters or go oem line for resale. Depends on who is wanting it.
Title: Re: Stihl MS250
Post by: farmboy on July 25, 2013, 04:48:29 pm
I'm not particularly fond of this series either.  But, I had a little 021 I traded off that was pretty wicked for what it was.  Did a MM on it and it came alive.  Kinda wish I'd kept it, NAH I got a Wild Thing.
Shep
Title: Re: Stihl MS250
Post by: brokenbudget on July 25, 2013, 05:18:32 pm
the 021-025/250 is a good solid little saw. power's not bad, extremly relaible but they are a cinder block. i'd call it a brick, but it's way heavier. :)
Title: Re: Stihl MS250
Post by: jmester on July 25, 2013, 10:49:26 pm
we use them for ground saws on the tree crew, they are durable and pretty cheap to buy and work on if you have a problem. and used parts are everywhere.
Title: Re: Stihl MS250
Post by: 660magnum on July 25, 2013, 11:34:00 pm
The local power company had Asplundh do the trees around my area this summer.

In the bucket trucks they used 211's that fit in a scabbard on the inside of the bucket and a hydraulic pole saw that fit in a bracket clamp on the arm of the lift.

The big ground saws were 372 X-Torq's. 

And The climbers had 201T's

From what I could put together, there were some bigger saws available if needed?
Title: Re: Stihl MS250
Post by: jmester on July 26, 2013, 06:17:38 am
I would rather they destroy a 300 dollar saw, than something like a 261.
Title: Re: Stihl MS250
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 31, 2013, 03:27:42 pm
Guess what the bad plug was and the bad plug he tried to replace with that he had used for back ups.  Same plug manufacture I quit using when I had like new plugs go bad. NGK
Title: Re: Stihl MS250
Post by: jmester on July 31, 2013, 06:26:16 pm
I did some playing around with my 250 and I advanced the timing and boy does it rev fast, I was pretty surprised. I think it may be to much for it feels like it builds a lot of heat. I use both Bosch and ngk plugs. I have had good luck with both.
Title: Re: Stihl MS250
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 31, 2013, 06:52:00 pm
I ran both too. Till one year 2 like new NGK gave me problems. Strictly Bosch now for me.
Title: Re: Stihl MS250
Post by: jmester on July 31, 2013, 07:02:53 pm
For me it is easier to get Bosch plugs, most of the time I have to order the ngk. What type of plugs do you run the wr6f?
Title: Re: Stihl MS250
Post by: jmester on July 31, 2013, 07:05:41 pm
Have you ever done many mods to a 250?
Title: Re: Stihl MS250
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 31, 2013, 07:12:28 pm
Not me.   I sale them as quick as I can. 
Title: Re: Stihl MS250
Post by: jmester on July 31, 2013, 08:04:27 pm
Why so ?
Title: Re: Stihl MS250
Post by: H 2 H on August 01, 2013, 06:27:04 pm
Advance the timing
MM
215 carb
Some simple mod's too the cylinder

=

While running saw's


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Title: Re: Stihl MS250
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 01, 2013, 07:21:06 pm
Why so ?

1. I'm not a fan of how the homeowner series are built.
 
2. stihl's are for selling with it's strong following.    ;)
Title: Re: Stihl MS250
Post by: jmester on August 01, 2013, 09:59:34 pm
That's fair enough. It is a shame they won't make some small pro saws. A 261 is a little to big to use as every day climbing saw. 
Title: Re: Stihl MS250
Post by: jmester on August 01, 2013, 10:01:22 pm
What does mm mean ?
Title: Re: Stihl MS250
Post by: 660magnum on August 01, 2013, 10:37:19 pm
Muffler Mod
Title: Re: Stihl MS250
Post by: jmester on August 01, 2013, 10:49:16 pm
Thanks, is that one on the saw lingo thread.
Title: Re: Stihl MS250
Post by: 660magnum on August 01, 2013, 10:57:32 pm
It should be?

If not - you can put it in there?

Edit:  It is in post number 12
Title: Re: Stihl MS250
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 02, 2013, 06:32:47 am
That's fair enough. It is a shame they won't make some small pro saws. A 261 is a little to big to use as every day climbing saw. 

That MS250 in the pic in this thread, IF I take in on trade will be sold as soon as I get it.  Hint Hint.  I'll price it just like the last one that lasted a day after I priced it for $150. I'm gong to replace the fuel line if I get it. Depending who wants it could do my redneck fuel line so new owner never has to use stihl line and filters again.
It looks like new and just used by a firewood cutter for trimming and the smaller stuff. He has 72cc for his normal cutting. 
Title: Re: Stihl MS250
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 12, 2013, 07:47:37 pm
The above MS250 stihl came in today with 18" and 2 extra chains and bar cover.  He brought a 12 pak so we could hammer out all the details. When he left he went home with my rebuilt husky 353 16" and 1 extra chain and bar cover.

The 250 will need a new fuel line, but temp fixed for now. This saw will be for sale.
Title: Re: Stihl MS250
Post by: ohio andy on August 12, 2013, 11:03:51 pm
I personally don't like my 250.   Its a damn rattle trap, I may have my rakers too aggressive and that is the problem??  But they are set at .025 using my Oregon depth gauge.  I just do not find anything enjoyable about running it.  I have an 029 that I really like, so it isn't just the clam shell design that bugs me.


Honestly, someone offered me $150 for it and it would be gone without hesitation.  Heck it would probably be gone for less than that on the right day.

I really want a 50 cc pro saw.   Adkstihl tells me to go for a 346... but I have not run a 261 or 346.  Without running either, I know I would buy the 26 series stihl.   Bar interchange would be one compelling factor.
Title: Re: Stihl MS250
Post by: 660magnum on August 13, 2013, 12:42:22 am
I have both a 026 PRO that has been ported and a 346XP new edition that is stock.

The 346 will run circles around the 026 - But, in the woods, I'd just as soon run the 026. It is a wonderful chainsaw. I run a 3/8 X 16 and it seems the perfect balance and weight.
Title: Re: Stihl MS250
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 13, 2013, 07:50:51 am
I have had 025 and run this 250 several times in the past. Both were smooth in the cuts, light handling. AV seemed fine too.

  So if yours is a rattle trap, have you tried a different chain? Ran a 3/8 chain on anothers saw the other day and it would rattle you in the cuts.
Title: Re: Stihl MS250
Post by: ohio andy on August 13, 2013, 08:25:38 am
It has the .325 chain on it.   It is the only 16" bar i have and it is the chain that came with it when i purchased it second hand.
Title: Re: Stihl MS250
Post by: Cut4fun on August 13, 2013, 08:26:52 am
325 was on both of these 16" and 18"
Title: Re: Stihl MS250
Post by: ohio andy on August 13, 2013, 08:38:22 am
Then it has to be the rakers.  When i went through it after purchase, the AV mounts were in good shape.  I will give it an aggressive filing and leave the depth gauges alone and see if it is any more enjoyable to run.

Right now i am in a four saw plan with all four being too close together.

MS 440 - 70cc
034 (not done yet) - 61 cc
029 super - 56 cc
MS 250 - 49 cc

No really gaps.  I plan to keep the 440 and 034.  I hate to sell the 029super.  it has been a great saw for me and it is a really clean saw, but once the 034 is done and i get a pro 50 cc, i know it will never get used.   I think for me, a three saw plan will be good.  50, 60 & 70, until a steal of a 660 comes along or a 61 or 441CM or...  ;D
Title: Re: Stihl MS250
Post by: Cut4fun on August 13, 2013, 08:42:46 am
Does anyone need me to show how I use tygon fuel line in place of stihl fuel line on stihls? Also allows you to use husky, poulan , echo etc type fuel filters, instead of stihl only filters?

I could do this on this 250 till I find out if new owner wants oem line or not.
Title: Re: Stihl MS250
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 13, 2013, 02:23:16 pm
Rednecked the fuel line on the 250 so it would never have to use stihl fuel line and filters again.   http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/stihl/stihl-ms250-quick-fuel-line-fix/msg22370/#msg22370

Surprised to see the L and H carb on it too.

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RM 325 chain seems slow.   :(  Still  has the bar code on front of the crankcase.


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Title: Re: Stihl MS250
Post by: ohio andy on August 13, 2013, 02:32:16 pm
Is that the ZAMA Carb? Mine has a fully adjustable Zama on it.
Title: Re: Stihl MS250
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 13, 2013, 02:34:45 pm
Yep fully adjustable zama on the 250. The one on 025 you couldnt.
Title: Re: Stihl MS250
Post by: 660magnum on August 13, 2013, 02:51:43 pm
I have a 025 that came with a single needle carb. It actually ran fine on high speed but I didn't like the idea of not being able to adjust the High Speed.

I bought a new twin needle carb for it from the Stihl dealer it was $22 + tax. Ran perfect out of the box.
Title: Re: Stihl MS250
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 13, 2013, 04:38:06 pm
Saw tested how fine and smooth as can be in the cuts.

Hour or so later someone shows up buys and takes home. Didn't even get to own for 24hrs.  :o