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Title: 325 chain
Post by: Playinwood on October 15, 2013, 06:59:05 pm
hey all, I have a logger friend using a 261 on the landing for limbing and sizing. I am supposed to get him some of the best cutting chain at Bailey`s and I need to know what species.
So what say you.
Title: Re: 325 chain
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 15, 2013, 07:58:43 pm
Best 325 for me has been stihl rs rsc for clean wood.
Title: Re: 325 chain
Post by: 660magnum on October 15, 2013, 08:03:55 pm
Me too. I have a couple saws that use this
Title: Re: 325 chain
Post by: Playinwood on October 15, 2013, 08:24:43 pm
That's what these guys are using I believe, its Stihl something. Im referring them to Baileys to get them a more affordable option. We have an Oregon and a woodsman pro. Anybody have a favorite.
Would it be safe to assume 50 gauge is the more common bar
Title: Re: 325 chain
Post by: jmester on October 15, 2013, 08:33:15 pm
I would go with Oregon 21 or 22 lp, that would be close to rsc chain. Not a fan of the woodland pro chain.
Title: Re: 325 chain
Post by: Playinwood on October 16, 2013, 03:44:06 pm
Oregon it is , thank you all
Title: Re: 325 chain
Post by: Old Iron Logging on October 16, 2013, 05:19:53 pm
Here the loggers buy Oregon, homeowners Stihl.
What do you want? May be able to save you a few bucks.
Title: Re: 325 chain
Post by: Playinwood on October 16, 2013, 06:10:24 pm
Art I'm looking for 73LGX but in 325 ;D

in truth Art what did you use, they have a 261 as a landing saw, they bring the tree out whole and limb it and size it. They then bulldoze the branches into piles and burn them.  They are making more farmland.

Lots of limbing....they are keeping everything 2inch and up
Title: Re: 325 chain
Post by: 660magnum on October 16, 2013, 06:34:35 pm
Oregon .325 chisel chain has safety bumpers on every other driver that works along side the rakers.

20LPX?? =.050   ?? = drive links
21LPX?? =.058
22LPX?? =.063
Title: Re: 325 chain
Post by: Old Iron Logging on October 16, 2013, 07:52:54 pm
Art I'm looking for 73LGX but in 325 ;D

in truth Art what did you use, they have a 261 as a landing saw, they bring the tree out whole and limb it and size it. They then bulldoze the branches into piles and burn them.  They are making more farmland.

Lots of limbing....they are keeping everything 2inch and up

Landing saws got Stihl RM or Oregon BP/DP if any mud was around. Same for winter skidded wood.
Title: Re: 325 chain
Post by: HolmenTree on October 16, 2013, 11:34:16 pm
Best .325 chisel I used was the Stihl 23RS .050, but now what I see is only in .063 as 26RSC. I have been running the Oregon 21LP since the 23RS ran out but I don't like the extra baggage of the LP's safety ramped drive link. Oregon needs to make a 21LG .325  or bring back the old 76LG 3/8 chisel.
Title: Re: 325 chain
Post by: 660magnum on October 16, 2013, 11:50:29 pm
I have two Stihl saws with the 26RSC and it does real well.
Title: Re: 325 chain
Post by: HolmenTree on October 17, 2013, 10:05:10 am
I have two Stihl saws with the 26RSC and it does real well.
I'm thinking the same too, would stretch less with the heavier drivers.
I believe the Stihl .325 like their 3/8 is .063 between the cutters on top of the drive link so evening up the drive link is a good thing. I like the Stihl's LG style depth gauge , never linked Oregons clunky LP link
Title: Re: 325 chain
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 17, 2013, 12:17:44 pm
How does the 33LG compare to the newer oregon offerings?
Title: Re: 325 chain
Post by: Old Iron Logging on October 17, 2013, 05:48:17 pm
Plenty of Stihl 23RS on the east side. Old 34 Oregon was smooth but slower than 21. Selling alot of 25RS62 for the 261 lately.
Title: Re: 325 chain
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 17, 2013, 07:48:42 pm
I picked up a little under 25' roll of 33LG because I didnt want the extra bumper link like on the 20LPX.   Read stock the 20lpx was a faster chain. But figured LG could be made faster in the end. 
Never did follow through with the testing as I got out of it and the faster chain stuff.
Title: Re: 325 chain
Post by: HolmenTree on October 17, 2013, 10:58:30 pm
I forgot about the 33LG, I probably have a loop or two hanging somewhere in the used stock pile. ;D
Title: Re: 325 chain
Post by: RoyM on October 17, 2013, 11:11:11 pm
33LG and 34LG are gone. Only the suit and tie pencil pushers in head office who had never picked up a saw liked it because it looked safer.
Title: Re: 325 chain
Post by: alsled on December 27, 2013, 12:17:09 pm
"" I would go with Oregon 21 or 22 lp, that would be close to rsc chain. Not a fan of the woodland pro chain.''

Whats wrong with the woodland pro chain that you didn't like?
Title: Re: 325 chain
Post by: alsled on December 27, 2013, 12:34:55 pm
Anybody use the k2l or k2c chain by carlton?  How is Carlton chain compared to Oregon as far as quality and staying sharp.

http://content.yudu.com/A25sb5/Carlton2013-14Catlog/resources/index.htm
Title: Re: 325 chain
Post by: 660magnum on December 27, 2013, 12:56:54 pm
I cannot tell the difference from a Carlton cutter and a Oregon cutter.

For some reason the 100' rolls of Carlton costs a lot more than Oregon?
Title: Re: 325 chain
Post by: rms61moparman on December 27, 2013, 08:09:57 pm
I have gone to the 63PS and 63PS3 on a couple of my .325 saws and so far, I like it real well.




Mike
Title: Re: 325 chain
Post by: jmester on December 27, 2013, 08:17:57 pm
I think the woodland pro chain dulls faster and cuts slower then the rest of them. I can file Oregon chain to cut faster then my stihl chain but like the durability better.  Hey to each his own on what you like to run. If you like it then run it.
Title: Re: 325 chain
Post by: John Mc on January 06, 2014, 09:38:11 am
Was it woodland pro chain that needed to be filed level, rather than with the 10˚ down angle on the file, for best cutting results?  I know Oregon chain like the 10˚ down angle, so I used that when I tried another chain (that I think was Woodland Pro - it's been a few years).  It did not cut well. I had given up on it, until Al Smith pointed out the different sharpening specs. Went back and tried it without the 10˚ down angle and it did cut better than before. 

I still don't buy it anymore since I tend to forget which chain I have on, and want to be able to sharpen everything I put on one saw the same way.

I did have a couple of problems with an occasional tooth or depth gauge so hard on a chain that I could not file it (ruined a couple of files trying).  This was either Woodland Pro or Total chain (which may have been the same thing at least at that time?)  I think it was this way out of the box, but it's possible I'm remembering incorrectly, and it happened after I took it to someone to regrind on their machine after hitting a rock.
Title: Re: 325 chain
Post by: 660magnum on January 06, 2014, 10:11:26 am
You can look at the chain head on and see if the top plates are drooped the 10 degrees. Typically chisel type chains are drooped and the round corner chipper chains are not.
Title: Re: 325 chain
Post by: SawTroll on February 03, 2014, 08:17:02 am
Best 325 for me has been stihl rs rsc for clean wood.

I have found Oregon LP/LPX to be slightly faster and smoother, and I know that many others have as well.

Those two no doubt are the best chisel options. and I am happy with using either.
Title: Re: 325 chain
Post by: SawTroll on February 03, 2014, 08:30:34 am
Oregon .325 chisel chain has safety bumpers on every other driver that works along side the rakers.

20LPX?? =.050   ?? = drive links
21LPX?? =.058
22LPX?? =.063

Those small ramps are combined with quite small rakers - and the combination seem to be less in the way than the large ramped rakers of other designs like RS/RSC (and LG/LGX in 3/8").

LP/LPX is not compareble to Stihl and Carlton chains with ramps, as those retain the larger ramped rakers, as well as having larger ramps.

The LP design was meant to be a better alternative to the larger ramped rakers of LG and RS (as opposed to a "safer" one), and that is exactly what it is - at least as long as the bar length is within reason.