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Title: 54cc 3300 335 3.3 336 etc
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 30, 2013, 09:41:34 am
Roger I cant remember the model or name of the one you have in red.  Also the grey and the black 3.3

Just noticing the many variations of this small 3 cube size 54cc saw.

335 chrome bore, 2 thin rings

3300 bare bore, 1 thick ring 1.5mm

red ? ? chrome bore, 1 1.5mm ring  3450  330 piston

grey 3.3  bare bore, 2 thick 1.5mm rings

black 3.3 chrome bore,  (cant remember rings) anyone?


Per fossil Poulan pro 336 Bare piston, chrome bore and two thin steel rings. Comp is at 175 psi
Title: Re: 54cc 3300 335 3.3 etc
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 30, 2013, 11:16:13 am
I have a Poulan 335 predator that is red.   It has a piston similar to the Poulan 3450.
That would be one thick ring on the piston.

http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/poulan/poulan-335-1406/
Title: Re: 54cc 3300 335 3.3 etc
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 30, 2013, 11:28:18 am
Thanks.

I was surprised to see 2 thick 1.5mm rings in a fellows grey 3.3 bare bore the other day.  I thought for sure only 1 ring like a 3300.

Did the black 3.3 chrome bore have 2 thin like 335 or 1 thick like 3450 or did they have 2 thick maybe?
Title: Re: 54cc 3300 335 3.3 etc
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 30, 2013, 11:49:38 am
I have never been inside a chrome bore 3.3.   I would have to look up the IPL and see and that is one I do not have an IPL for.
Title: Re: 54cc 3300 335 3.3 etc
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 30, 2013, 12:15:33 pm
Jeff has one.  I PM'ed him.

Hopefully he can tell us.
Title: Re: 54cc 3300 335 3.3 etc
Post by: rms61moparman on November 30, 2013, 01:23:54 pm
Andyshine77 has my black 3.3 apart right now.
I'm sure he could tell you.


Mike
Title: Re: 54cc 3300 335 3.3 etc
Post by: procarbine2k1 on November 30, 2013, 04:29:50 pm
Jeff has one.  I PM'ed him.

Hopefully he can tell us.

Hey Kevin, 1 thick ring on the black 3.3. Real nice saw, I am going to try and get it buttoned up tonight. Sorry for not checking in as often as I should, haven't been spending a whole lot of time on AS or SH either.
Title: Re: 54cc 3300 335 3.3 etc
Post by: drumbum on December 01, 2013, 01:51:17 pm
Curious, what's SH
Title: Re: 54cc 3300 335 3.3 etc
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 01, 2013, 03:52:27 pm
Curious, what's SH
SawHawgs
Title: Re: 54cc 3300 335 3.3 etc
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 01, 2013, 05:26:47 pm
The black craftsman is then like the red predator 335 with 3450 piston.    Cool
Title: Re: 54cc 3300 335 3.3 etc
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 01, 2013, 05:59:51 pm
The black craftsman is then like the red predator 335 with 3450 piston.    Cool

That is good info to have.  I run into those black 3.3 once in awhile.
Title: Re: 54cc 3300 335 3.3 etc
Post by: Andyshine77 on December 02, 2013, 10:41:13 pm
Mike's black 3.3 has a chrome bore and a single 1.50mm thick ring. Nice looking saw so far.
Title: Re: 54cc 3300 335 3.3 etc
Post by: Andyshine77 on December 03, 2013, 06:10:22 pm
Here are a few pics of the ring and piston from Mike's saw. It will be cleaned up before I put it back together.   

Title: Re: 54cc 3300 335 3.3 etc
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 03, 2013, 07:10:18 pm
Andre are you going to port this saw and make some other modifications to it?
Title: Re: 54cc 3300 335 3.3 etc
Post by: Cut4fun on December 03, 2013, 07:28:30 pm
I was figuring that 1.6mm was a typo.  Thanks for the posting pics and info  Andre.

I think I found a few more that are 54cc in this 3ci class size.  Not sure though PP336  3350 3100   anyone know?
Title: Re: 54cc 3300 335 3.3 etc
Post by: moparman texas on December 03, 2013, 07:39:55 pm
The early 3300 (3.3 bare bore) saws had 2 thick rings. Not trying to be picky but this series of saws was designed in inches and has 1/16" (.0625" nom) rings, not 1.5mm (.060" nom) rings. You would not be happy, if you put 1.5mm rings in a piston that was machined for 1/16 rings.
Title: Re: 54cc 3300 335 3.3 etc
Post by: Andyshine77 on December 03, 2013, 07:48:24 pm
I was figuring that 1.6mm was a typo.  Thanks for the posting pics and info  Andre.

I think I found a few more that are 54cc in this 3ci class size.  Not sure though PP336  3350 3100   anyone know?



No problem. Didn't notice the typo until I posted the pics lol.
Title: Re: 54cc 3300 335 3.3 etc
Post by: Andyshine77 on December 03, 2013, 07:50:44 pm
Andre are you going to port this saw and make some other modifications to it?


It's to be ported, maybe with some machine work as well. Haven't really looked at the carb, but it looks like it will flow OK.

Title: Re: 54cc 3300 335 3.3 etc
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 03, 2013, 08:11:45 pm
Andre are you going to port this saw and make some other modifications to it?


It's to be ported, maybe with some machine work as well. Haven't really looked at the carb, but it looks like it will flow OK.



You can use the 330 3450 3750 380 bigger intakes and carb if needed.

moparman texas, I just buy the oem rings. Like $2.78  Thanks for the great info though.
Title: Re: 54cc 3300 335 3.3 etc
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 21, 2013, 12:28:42 pm
I was  watching the poulan pro 336 that just sold.  He had stated new rings etc installed.  I was thinking thin like 335, but IPL and part numbers come back to thick rings like in 3300 1.5mm x 2.   

Guessing only maybe chrome bore with 2 rings like the IPL shows?    http://www.partstree.com/parts/?lc=poulan_weed_eater&mn=PP336+Gas+Saw%2C+PP336&dn=023110001


Poulan 336 365 IPL  http://www.klippo.com/ddoc/POUI/POUI2005_USen/POUI2005_USen__530083831.pdf
Title: Re: 54cc 3300 335 3.3 etc
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 21, 2013, 12:46:45 pm
The 336 sure looked like a 335 but I guess the piston and rings are totally different.
Title: Re: 54cc 3300 335 3.3 etc
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 21, 2013, 12:58:15 pm
Yep that was what I was thinking and then he stated put in new rings. That got me thinking.

NOTICE: Air filter cover reminds me of the 365 3500.

Forgot the pic last post.
Title: Re: 54cc 3300 335 3.3 etc
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 21, 2013, 01:06:17 pm
I am surprised it did not sell for more.   $86.00 dollars seemed like a decent price to me.

I did not notice the cover was like the 365.  I guess I did not look close enough.
Title: Re: 54cc 3300 335 3.3 etc
Post by: Eccentric on December 21, 2013, 02:04:49 pm
Maybe the recent glut of PP330 saws on ebay hurt that auction.  Must've been close to a dozen PP330s, a few 3450's, a PP380, at least one 3500, and some others I'm forgetting over the last month or two.
Title: Re: 54cc 3300 335 3.3 etc
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 16, 2017, 02:25:21 pm
Per @fossil Poulan 336 54cc Bare piston, chrome bore and two thin steel rings. Comp is at 175 psi

Also added to first post
Title: Re: 54cc 3300 335 3.3 etc
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 16, 2017, 02:26:59 pm
Tim notice the pp336 in 3rd page. Yours have the 365 covers too? 

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(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2639.0;attach=18058;image)

Title: Re: 54cc 3300 335 3.3 336 etc
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 16, 2017, 02:29:49 pm
Added 336 to the heading now.
Title: Re: 54cc 3300 335 3.3 etc
Post by: fossil on June 16, 2017, 04:26:00 pm
Tim notice the pp336 in 3rd page. Yours have the 365 covers too? 

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(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2639.0;attach=18058;image)

Yes. The covers are the same as my 3600.  The case is the same as the 365 - 380 so the muffler and covers are the same.

I noticed some crap on the back cylinder wall so I pulled the cylinder to check. No scoring, couldn't feel it. Maybe carbon from sawdust ingestion. Buffed it out anyway.
Here's a pic of the piston and rings. They are 0.56mm thick.

Title: Re: 54cc 3300 335 3.3 336 etc
Post by: Termitebuffet on June 18, 2017, 01:20:11 pm
Yall done got me curious, and messing with these poulan