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Title: electric start on 026
Post by: JoeB on June 15, 2014, 11:43:51 am
Howdy, been thinking about a way to put electric start on my stihl pro 026.
(both rotor cuffs need work.......
I got a sears 4 stoke weed whacker from SHMBO a couple years ago with the starter that fits the head and plugs in, it also has the pull rope start once you get it running.
Anybody thought about adding a starter to a stihl????
@ 64 the arms don't do it. Thanks, JoeB
Title: Re: electric start on 026
Post by: 660magnum on June 15, 2014, 12:26:06 pm
At 64 I couldn't start a 026 Pro either for my fingers would not close on the starter handle.

I started taking Glucosamine and a couple years later, I could start my 026 just fine. My fingers are not perfect but at least I can start my saws.
Title: Re: electric start on 026
Post by: 660magnum on June 15, 2014, 12:31:57 pm
The big problem as I see it is the interconnection between the saw and the starter?

Model helicopters have a 6mm hex drive interconnection.

Scroll to the bottom of this page . . . for the 6mm hex ball end wrench adapter. It will take at least the Dynatron starter for enough torque to start a 026PRO

http://www.sullivanproducts.com/StartersContent.htm
Title: Re: electric start on 026
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 15, 2014, 12:48:51 pm
May look at the Easy Start on some other stihls.
Not on pro grade saws like 026 though.  I was just telling someone it would be a nice option up to 60cc saws in pro grade. Even though not  a big market.

Stihls easy start has been the easiest and best I have tried so far.

If you try to start the way we are used to it will drive you batty.

 I could pull the rope 1" at a time till I got it wound up and then it would spin itself to start.  or just pull slowly up and it will wound up in 1 pull and spin start once wound.

Have to learn to use it on the stihl. It is so easy on you, if you had shoulder, hand etc troubles. Little pulls at a time works to wound up the stihls. Unlike some of the others that just make it easier to pull at a given point.
Title: Re: electric start on 026
Post by: 660magnum on June 15, 2014, 12:55:28 pm
Cut4fun had a MS250C at his house last year and it was just like he said.

Rope was almost no resistance to pull.

I could jerk the rope all the way out and then the MS250C would turn over and start.
Title: Re: electric start on 026
Post by: RoyM on June 15, 2014, 01:17:14 pm
I don't like the so called Easy Start but it works well for a lot of people. Does take some getting used to.
Title: Re: electric start on 026
Post by: aclarke on June 15, 2014, 01:27:44 pm
Cut a hole in the side cover and remove the original starter assemble. Machine an extended nut and use a elec drill or kart Type starter?
Title: Re: electric start on 026
Post by: aclarke on June 15, 2014, 01:34:57 pm
Left hand thread may pose an issue?
Title: Re: electric start on 026
Post by: 660magnum on June 15, 2014, 01:36:36 pm
I don't care for it either.

But my 66 yr old wife could start a easy start or adjust the chain with no problem.

I have a regular 025 and 026 as well as a 026 PRO and they are good enough for me.

Not all brands of easy start saws work like we are talking about. Not all Stihls nor other brands.

I have a Dolmar 5105 with a starter made a lot like the one on the Stihl MS250 Easy Start but it doesn't work the same way. It is hard to pull but if you can slowly get the piston to go past top dead center, the saw will start.
Title: Re: electric start on 026
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on June 15, 2014, 02:04:10 pm
Don't know much about Stihl but is the flywheel nut really left hand thread? That seems to defy logic.
Title: Re: electric start on 026
Post by: 660magnum on June 15, 2014, 02:13:34 pm
AFAIK The flywheel nut is right hand
Title: Re: electric start on 026
Post by: brokenbudget on June 15, 2014, 02:16:27 pm
it is right handed. and will loosen off every time if you tried to use it as a point for a starter.
Title: Re: electric start on 026
Post by: 660magnum on June 15, 2014, 02:30:53 pm
I've started many a model airplane engine with right hand nuts and they don't loosen unless the engine backfires (rare on a 2 stroke) or is hydro locked.

Title: Re: electric start on 026
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on June 15, 2014, 04:12:04 pm
Daah, now I get it, in order to start the saw by the flywheel nut you would actually be turning it anti-clockwise and could loosen the nut!

Homer Simpson
Title: Re: electric start on 026
Post by: Old Iron Logging on June 15, 2014, 04:38:26 pm
Easy start was available for the 026, may still be. The easy start works best the slower you pull them. Pull hard and quick like a normal saw they will not hold up. We sell around 75 easy start units per year.
Title: Re: electric start on 026
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 15, 2014, 07:20:40 pm
Looking for a list of saws with it and seen this.

http://www.stihlusa.com/products/technology/easy2start/
Title: Re: electric start on 026
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 15, 2014, 07:26:49 pm
Equipment with E (like MS 291 C-BEQ) use easy start going by read above. The stihl  291 is the biggest 55.5cc that replaced the 290.  It is a option.  Then a 251. No pro grade listed.
Title: Re: electric start on 026
Post by: brokenbudget on June 15, 2014, 07:59:45 pm
I will honestly say I really don't like the ms250. I feel it's way too heavy for the power and the anti-vibe is less than good. HOWEVER, for the average homeowner they are a very good choice. and I really do like stihls easy2start system. it is extremely reliable if you keep the monkey's off of it and it's very smooth and easy. I had it on an ms180 and one of my friends went out and bought the ms250 for his granddad because if it. he's pushing 90 and loves that little saw. I did convert the ms250 to the 2 bar nuts. even though he only runs the saw maybe 10 hours max a year, he was finding the tooless system to be less than desirable. :)

or you can find your self a mcculloch 10-10E ;D
Title: Re: electric start on 026
Post by: Old Iron Logging on June 15, 2014, 08:16:09 pm
Its an option for the 261 in some markets.
Title: Re: electric start on 026
Post by: aclarke on June 15, 2014, 08:57:23 pm
 right hand on the fanwheel, left on clutch   sorry for the confusion
Title: Re: electric start on 026
Post by: JoeB on June 16, 2014, 10:32:27 am
Howdy, and thanks for the ideas: 660 MAG, i'll ask SHMBO for the glucosamine, sulfate or straight???
I love the "little" 026 pro, i also loved my wizz 35 years ago. Now it just gets turned over, lubed, and put back on the shelve. I don't want the pro ending there too. Thanks again, JoeB
Title: Re: electric start on 026
Post by: 660magnum on June 16, 2014, 12:01:01 pm
Glucosamine Chondroitin is what you want.
Title: Re: electric start on 026
Post by: JoeB on June 17, 2014, 10:20:25 am
Thanks 660 Mag.
Good site!