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Title: Old Oregon spinner: what's missing?
Post by: jon1270 on October 01, 2014, 11:54:48 am
I have zero experience making up chains, but a few days ago I picked up several full and partial rolls of Stihl and Oregon stuff (leftovers from a store that closed) on CL because it was too cheap to pass up.  It came with an old Oregon breaker and spinner, but from what I'm reading it seems to be missing a few things.

I've only got one spinner anvil, marked "A", which seems to be for .375 and .404 chain, so I guess I need the "C" anvil to spin .325 chains.  Is the "C" anvil also appropriate for 3/8 LP?  How can I tell whether the "A" anvil I have is worn out?

I've got two take-up handles, but both are marked A-B and one is brand new so I guess I've got a spare rather than two different sizes.  Do I need a different take-up handle for smaller chains?  Is one even available anymore?

Realistically I don't need to make my own chains.  I'll probably sell off most of it in its current form, but I'd like to make up a few loops just for the learning experience if it's even worth getting this spinner fully functional. 





Title: Re: Old Oregon spinner: what's missing?
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 01, 2014, 12:22:36 pm
I dont know about oregon.

CORRECTED INFO

Mine is
1st one fits .375LP, .325, .250.
2nd one fits .404, .375,
3rd one fits .750 3/4 chain. 

Title: Re: Old Oregon spinner: what's missing?
Post by: 660magnum on October 01, 2014, 02:28:52 pm
That spinner looks like the aluminum casting one made in Italy. It is not the old cast iron one made in Buffalo, NY and it is not the current welded one either. I think they date from the 90's?

I don't know what spinner bits it needs? The current Italian style is too long to align with the guides but can be cut-off to fit.

The replacements for the old cast iron model is still available. It may fit perfect?
Title: Re: Old Oregon spinner: what's missing?
Post by: jon1270 on October 01, 2014, 03:12:35 pm
You're right, it's an aluminum model. 

I found sources for the old A and C anvils, at least, and I also saw threads about cutting off new-style anvils to use with it.  I'm more concerned about the takeup handle, because I haven't found a source for replacements of those.

On newer Oregon spinners, they offer only 2 anvils and 2 takeup handles.  3/8 and 404 are done with the larger set, and 1/4, 3/8LP and .325 with the smaller.  Sadly I have the equivalent larger set, and the chain I acquired is all smaller stuff.

I did see an eBay listing for the same spinner, and the seller said he used the same anvil and takeup handle (the same ones I have) for every chain from 1/4" through .404.  Doesn't sound like the best idea to me...
Title: Re: Old Oregon spinner: what's missing?
Post by: 660magnum on October 01, 2014, 03:50:14 pm
I have the older USA cast iron spinner/breaker set and the spinner has a large 404-3/8 and a small .325 -3/8LP take up handle. As long as the cup shape is well  defined on the business end, they should be OK.

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Title: Re: Old Oregon spinner: what's missing?
Post by: farmboy on October 01, 2014, 09:49:20 pm
I use the same takeup handle for all chain sizes.  It's an A handle IIRC.  Got 3 A's no B.  Had to cut my anvils to fit my spinner.
Shep
Title: Re: Old Oregon spinner: what's missing?
Post by: Al Smith on October 02, 2014, 05:21:44 am
I got my spinner off of flea bay,Oregon .MFG supply sold at least at one time anvils at about 4-5 bucks a pop .They worked but the length have to be cut down a tad bit .
Title: Re: Old Oregon spinner: what's missing?
Post by: jon1270 on October 02, 2014, 06:05:35 am
Yeah, I'm really not too worried about the availability of anvils. I was confused at first because for the old spinners they offer "A" and "C" anvils, and for the new ones they have "A" and "B" anvils, but the applications listed for the new "B" anvils is just the same as for the old "C" anvils.  Why they would muck around with the coding system that way I have no idea. I still haven't found anything about the compatibility of newer takeup handles, but maybe that isn't so critical after all.
Title: Re: Old Oregon spinner: what's missing?
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 02, 2014, 12:14:29 pm
You guys got me curious on my 3 I had for my off brand copy.  I do have 3 but I have to CORRECT my above info.

1st one fits .375LP, .325, .250. 
2nd one fits .404, .375,
3rd one fits .750 3/4 chain. 

Title: Re: Old Oregon spinner: what's missing?
Post by: jon1270 on October 02, 2014, 12:26:18 pm
Okay, so same as the Oregon models.

Also, MasterMech over on FHC told me it was common, in his experience, to use the same takeup handle for everything.  I just ordered a smaller anvil, so hopefully that'll get me going.
Title: Re: Old Oregon spinner: what's missing?
Post by: Cut4fun on October 02, 2014, 12:38:16 pm
I have 1 handle only for all of mine.  I am clueless on the others.
Title: Re: Old Oregon spinner: what's missing?
Post by: 660magnum on October 02, 2014, 01:31:26 pm
When I bought my USA made cast iron breaker-spinner set, The rivet head forming bit anvils included were the current style Oregon ones which fit but were too long for the chain to align with the guide wheels. I could have cut the anvils shorter but opted to buy the new correct anvil set from Equipatron.

Both my supplied "take up" handles were in like new shape. In fact both the spinner and breaker appeared to be unused except for the anvils and punches which were well used and for the current model Oregon Breaker/spinner set.

There's a earlier Oregon Spinner/breaker than mine but I don't know much about them. Mine are made in Buffalo, NY by Herr and dated from the 60's to the early 90's. After that the Oregon spinner/breakers were made in Italy and there's the aluminum ones and the welded ones.