Chainsaw Repair

Husqvarna - Stihl - Poulan - Jonsered - Dolmar chainsaws and more => Husqvarna => Topic started by: kefflon on October 03, 2014, 05:23:17 am


Title: 254 xpg start help
Post by: kefflon on October 03, 2014, 05:23:17 am
I changed the spark plug and saw the tip was dirty and oily. It didnt want to start with the new one. I also saw the decompression valve was dirty and oily, and the cooler arond it. What can be wrong?

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Title: Re: 254 xpg start help
Post by: Cut4fun on October 03, 2014, 06:48:35 am
Is that decomp stuck in?
Title: Re: 254 xpg start help
Post by: aclarke on October 03, 2014, 08:35:02 am
Or loose?
Title: Re: 254 xpg start help
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 03, 2014, 12:23:42 pm
Put a $2-$3 decomp plug in it to rule the decomp out.   http://www.hlsproparts.com/Decompression-plug-for-chainsaw-cut-off-saw-p/t635701.htm

Title: Re: 254 xpg start help
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on October 03, 2014, 12:42:22 pm
+1 Kevin, use a plug, nix the decomp!
Title: Re: 254 xpg start help
Post by: kefflon on October 03, 2014, 03:35:13 pm
The decomp moves in and out, but its just a little bit loose. Can it cause the start problem. And if i replace it with a plug, how do i take the decomp out? do i pull it or screw it?
Title: Re: 254 xpg start help
Post by: kefflon on October 03, 2014, 04:09:49 pm
i got it loose now, when button is in i can blow through it, when its out its closed. So its better to replace with a plug?

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Title: Re: 254 xpg start help
Post by: aclarke on October 03, 2014, 04:46:59 pm
Was the decompression valve loose? The first picture looks as though there was a bunch of carbon and oil at the base of the plug?   Is the gasket on the decompression valve?    If the decompression stuck open or leaking the saw could run port or not at all.  Try putting the decompression valve back in and make sure it's closed (button OUT) then see if you can start it. 

Has this saw run in the past? What's It's history?
Title: Re: 254 xpg start help
Post by: kefflon on October 04, 2014, 08:57:23 am
The saw was running nicely til couple of days ago. I did as Cut4fun said and replaced the decomp with a plug. Not a proper one though, just a normal bolt that fitted. (see picture) Now the saw ignited, it sounded like it was going to start. But it never started idling properly. Any tips?

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Title: Re: 254 xpg start help
Post by: aclarke on October 04, 2014, 09:14:20 am
A few basics to check: the screen on the muffler may be clogged if it has one, check the fuel lines/filter as they may be old **** during the last use   Make sure the plug wire and ground wire aren't compromised and grounding somewhere. Check carb screws and cylinder bolts. Pull the plug out and check for spark.
Title: Re: 254 xpg start help
Post by: kefflon on October 08, 2014, 07:27:48 am
Thanks! Will go through those things.
Title: Re: 254 xpg start help
Post by: farmboy on October 08, 2014, 07:44:05 am
Do a compression check.  Fought several w/ same issue of not wanting to start.
Shep
Title: Re: 254 xpg start help
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 08, 2014, 10:44:53 am
Like Adam mentioned I have found when there is a lot of gunk and oil then there is a good chance the spark arrestor screen is plugged up also.
Title: Re: 254 xpg start help
Post by: kefflon on October 09, 2014, 03:24:35 am
Is the spark arrestor inside the muffler?

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Title: Re: 254 xpg start help
Post by: kefflon on October 09, 2014, 03:28:28 am
and by the way, I found a proper decomp plug now 

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Title: Re: 254 xpg start help
Post by: aclarke on October 09, 2014, 09:32:43 am
Looks like it doesn't have a screen in the muffler outlet??
 
We're you able to check for spark with the plug out?  Make sure the plug is touching the cylinder for a ground source
Title: Re: 254 xpg start help
Post by: aclarke on October 09, 2014, 09:41:30 am
Granted the saw has spark, i'd check the carb needle setting to see if they're in the ball Park and try starting it.  If it doesn't start pull the spark plug and see of its wet with fuel.   
Title: Re: 254 xpg start help
Post by: kefflon on October 09, 2014, 12:15:15 pm
Thanks, Ill check for a spark with the plug out.
Title: Re: 254 xpg start help
Post by: aclarke on October 10, 2014, 01:18:30 am
If it's got a good spark I'd start looking at the carb for possible flooding issues.
Title: Re: 254 xpg start help
Post by: SawTroll on October 10, 2014, 04:56:11 am
Is the spark arrestor inside the muffler?

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Looks like it doesn't have a screen in the muffler outlet??
 
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That looks like one of the mufflers that doesn't have a spark screen to me - like an European one....
Title: Re: 254 xpg start help
Post by: aclarke on October 10, 2014, 09:05:05 am
That's interesting. Guess you legally only have to use one on jobs like USFS, etc.   We done a fair amount of government work tree/clearing jobs and that's never come up. Shovels/ fire extinguishers, water supply is usually required.