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Title: 372 XT x-torq aftermarket cylinder piston kit
Post by: Cut4fun on November 14, 2014, 01:27:51 pm
Anyone got the aftermarket 372 x-torq cylinder piston kits out there?  Any info on bolt on or needs work. How they run and lasting?

HLsupply

http://www.hlsproparts.com/Husqvarna-372XP-X-Torq-cylinder-kit-575-25-57-02-p/h30366.htm

High quality aftermarket cylinder and piston kit. 50mm bore.
Fits Husqvarna 365 X-Torq, 372XP X-Torq chainsaws.
Includes: cylinder, piston, rings, wrist pin, cir clips
Replaces OEM part: 575 25 57-02
Title: Re: 372 XT x-torq aftermarket cylinder piston kit
Post by: farmboy on November 14, 2014, 10:58:55 pm
There is a guy in Canada (Ebay seller) that's selling them.  He says he inspects every kit he sells for QC.  Can't find listing did find this one.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HUSQVARNA-372XP-X-TORQ-365-X-TORQ-CYLINDER-PISTON-KIT-REPLACES-575255702-NEW-/380916005454?pt=US_Chainsaws&hash=item58b05cfa4e
Shep
Title: Re: 372 XT x-torq aftermarket cylinder piston kit
Post by: farmboy on November 16, 2014, 07:27:17 am
Found listing for guy in Canada.  Scroll down gives list of QC check.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HUSQVARNA-365-X-Torq-372-XP-XTorq-JONSERED-2172-2166-CYLINDER-PISTON-KIT-50mm-/221477577576?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item339117a368
Shep
Title: Re: 372 XT x-torq aftermarket cylinder piston kit
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 18, 2014, 08:10:25 pm
Has anyone used the aftermarket ones yet?
Title: Re: 372 XT x-torq aftermarket cylinder piston kit
Post by: Chainsawr on November 19, 2014, 05:34:23 am
I've tried 3 makes.   The two that are currently readily available were so bad I considered them un-salvageable.   There is one that I tested and is pretty good.  With a ring upgrade it would be fine.  However it isn't finished and out there for sale yet.

One of the 'bad' kits was so poorly made the insides of the transfer ports were never finished, yes they were completely closed, and had to be drilled and ground out.  In that same kit the piston also wouldn't go through bottom center without grinding the bottom of the piston skirt to clear the crank.
Title: Re: 372 XT x-torq aftermarket cylinder piston kit
Post by: aclarke on November 19, 2014, 09:11:09 am
The transfer ports on the 441 kits I've tried were really poorly formed at the exits and nearly plugged with chrome . Probably run but, no thanks!
Title: Re: 372 XT x-torq aftermarket cylinder piston kit
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on November 19, 2014, 09:46:41 am
Most of the HyWay kits 372s and smaller from HLS have been decent, not going to make a hot saw but will do for a guy on a budget. Would rather use OEM or Meteor also have a Tecomec kit in stock that looks pretty good but have not used it yet.

Cannot tell exactly from the pics but it looks to me that the Chinese have opted for a socket head cap screw on the transfer covers on the XT jugs in favor of the T-20 tamper proof screws on the OEM. On the surface this looks to be a 'good thing' to me.
Title: Re: 372 XT x-torq aftermarket cylinder piston kit
Post by: SawTroll on November 19, 2014, 11:23:11 am
There is a guy in Canada (Ebay seller) that's selling them.  He says he inspects every kit he sells for QC.  Can't find listing did find this one.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HUSQVARNA-372XP-X-TORQ-365-X-TORQ-CYLINDER-PISTON-KIT-REPLACES-575255702-NEW-/380916005454?pt=US_Chainsaws&hash=item58b05cfa4e
Shep


I question the use of the word "genuine" on the box in the ad!   ;)
Title: Re: 372 XT x-torq aftermarket cylinder piston kit
Post by: weimedog on November 20, 2014, 02:25:31 pm

Willing to bet all three "brands" get there stuff from the same Asian supplier/manufacturer... same stuff different box? And some hope you are willing to pay for special colored box, a smiley face or online social status...  ::) Have become a little jaded about the AM marketing world.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chainsaw-Cylinder-Assembly-Replaces-Husqvarna-575255702-Fits-372-X-Torq-/380986079116?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58b48a378c
Title: Re: 372 XT x-torq aftermarket cylinder piston kit
Post by: 660magnum on November 20, 2014, 02:41:21 pm
+1 on there actually just being one source.
Title: Re: 372 XT x-torq aftermarket cylinder piston kit
Post by: Chainsawr on November 21, 2014, 06:31:29 am
All 3 kits very clearly cast and finished different.  Different pistons, different rings, different castings, different pin clips, different linings etc.  And all 3 were sent to us for testing from different suppliers direct from their different overseas factories over the last 2 years.

The adequate cylinder had a nice NiSil lining.

You can see that the one in the ebay ad at least is chrome lined.
Title: Re: 372 XT x-torq aftermarket cylinder piston kit
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 21, 2014, 01:44:12 pm
All 3 kits very clearly cast and finished different.  Different pistons, different rings, different castings, different pin clips, different linings etc.  And all 3 were sent to us for testing from different suppliers direct from their different overseas factories over the last 2 years.

The adequate cylinder had a nice NiSil lining.

You can see that the one in the ebay ad at least is chrome lined.

Thats good to hear.  Thanks for sharing this.
Title: Re: 372 XT x-torq aftermarket cylinder piston kit
Post by: weimedog on November 21, 2014, 01:55:45 pm
Decided against posting my thoughts. Wish I had a "cool-aid" icon!  ::) Can't find a "delete" option (please delete this!!)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HUSQVARNA-365-X-Torq-372-XP-XTorq-JONSERED-2172-2166-CYLINDER-PISTON-KIT-50mm-/221477577576?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item339117a368

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HUSQVARNA-372XP-X-TORQ-365-X-TORQ-CYLINDER-PISTON-KIT-REPLACES-575255702-NEW-/380916005454?pt=US_Chainsaws&hash=item58b05cfa4e


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chainsaw-Cylinder-Assembly-Replaces-Husqvarna-575255702-Fits-372-X-Torq-/380986079116?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58b48a378c


http://www.ebay.com/itm/HUSQVARNA-365-X-TORQ-50MM-CYLINDER-KIT-NEW-ALSO-FITS-372-X-TORQ-/281301101207?pt=UK_Home_Garden_GardenPowerTools_CA&hash=item417eda2a97

And then there is this..... anyone see an anomaly??

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cylinder-Assembly-Piston-Kit-Husqvarna-372-X-TORQ-Chainsaws-50mm-575-25-57-02-/201214605227?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ed95337ab


NOW to some sources.....
http://jxhairun.en.alibaba.com/product/60079879381-800556704/Chainsaw_Cylinder_kits_HU372.html

Care to find out who they supply?
Title: Re: 372 XT x-torq aftermarket cylinder piston kit
Post by: 660magnum on November 21, 2014, 03:02:05 pm
The first four all seem to be the same actual source.

The 5th is not what I'd buy even for a old style non Xtorq chainsaw.
Title: Re: 372 XT x-torq aftermarket cylinder piston kit
Post by: weimedog on November 21, 2014, 03:07:24 pm
Yea.. think you got the picture. There is more interesting data out there. But if I found it others can as well. For me? I have a source of OEM parts at a good price. Spike60. That's it. Huztl is about chits & grins. But for the saws that count? Why gamble, I stick with OEM. There, I said it.
Title: Re: 372 XT x-torq aftermarket cylinder piston kit
Post by: Spike60 on November 21, 2014, 04:56:44 pm
This stuff is all smoke and mirrors with your choice of chrome or nikisil coating. And if you're lucky, that coating might actually stay on the cylinder.  :P

Title: Re: 372 XT x-torq aftermarket cylinder piston kit
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 21, 2014, 09:32:56 pm
But for the saws that count? Why gamble, I stick with OEM. There, I said it.

I agree.

But most local guys will not spring for oem because of  cost most times. 

Some of them are getting the jonsered 2166 husky 365xt and 372 XT in their firewood fleet.  I know their not going to want to pay OEM prices for new p+c.  IF I cant save their oem topends. Even though I  charge 20%-25% labor rates the local shops charge.
Thats the reason for wanting to know more about the aftermarket offerings.

Thats why offer 3 different levels with 3 different prices. Most want redneck.
1. redneck fixed reusing fixable oem parts
2. aftermarket
3.OEM new



http://ootool.en.made-in-china.com/product/CqDxKtNbldkp/China-Cylinder-for-Husqvarna-365-372-Chain-Saw.html

http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/chainsaw-spare-parts-372-cylinder_1272037097.html



Title: Re: 372 XT x-torq aftermarket cylinder piston kit
Post by: weimedog on November 21, 2014, 10:02:42 pm
Yes I get it. I've just gone to your "red neck" and OEM options. I keep the AM stuff for my farm and to create video's with. To be honest I didn't do the video's with the best intention for the AM, was hoping for more drama with parts flying apart.... and the only fall out that actually occurred has nothing to do with performance or reliability. So I'll let them fade away over time. One already rides the closet and the other may quickly follow once my 365/372XPW (All OEM) blend gets finished.
Title: Re: 372 XT x-torq aftermarket cylinder piston kit
Post by: 660magnum on November 21, 2014, 11:37:55 pm
But for the saws that count? Why gamble, I stick with OEM. There, I said it.

I agree.

But most local guys will not spring for oem because of  cost most times. 

Some of them are getting the jonsered 2166 husky 365xt and 372 XT in their firewood fleet.  I know their not going to want to pay OEM prices for new p+c.  IF I cant save their oem topends. Even though I  charge 20%-25% labor rates the local shops charge.
Thats the reason for wanting to know more about the aftermarket offerings.

Thats why offer 3 different levels with 3 different prices. Most want redneck.
1. redneck fixed reusing fixable oem parts
2. aftermarket
3.OEM new



http://ootool.en.made-in-china.com/product/CqDxKtNbldkp/China-Cylinder-for-Husqvarna-365-372-Chain-Saw.html

http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/chainsaw-spare-parts-372-cylinder_1272037097.html

The cylinders in those links don't look like the cylinders on my 365's or 372's? Open port? Bolt on intakes?
Title: Re: 372 XT x-torq aftermarket cylinder piston kit
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 22, 2014, 09:42:43 am
But for the saws that count? Why gamble, I stick with OEM. There, I said it.

I agree.

But most local guys will not spring for oem because of  cost most times. 

Some of them are getting the jonsered 2166 husky 365xt and 372 XT in their firewood fleet.  I know their not going to want to pay OEM prices for new p+c.  IF I cant save their oem topends. Even though I  charge 20%-25% labor rates the local shops charge.
Thats the reason for wanting to know more about the aftermarket offerings.

Thats why offer 3 different levels with 3 different prices. Most want redneck.
1. redneck fixed reusing fixable oem parts
2. aftermarket
3.OEM new



http://ootool.en.made-in-china.com/product/CqDxKtNbldkp/China-Cylinder-for-Husqvarna-365-372-Chain-Saw.html

http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/chainsaw-spare-parts-372-cylinder_1272037097.html

The cylinders in those links don't look like the cylinders on my 365's or 372's? Open port? Bolt on intakes?

LOL I seen that too. I figured generic pics of who knows.
Title: Re: 372 XT x-torq aftermarket cylinder piston kit
Post by: 660magnum on November 22, 2014, 09:52:39 am
I was thinking the original 365 cylinder long before it became what we now know as the 365 Special?

I've see those "bolt on boot" cylinders on Ebay as being from Hong Kong
Title: Re: 372 XT x-torq aftermarket cylinder piston kit
Post by: weimedog on November 29, 2014, 08:29:17 am
Here is a (probably "the") source of 365/372 x-torq replica cylinders we are seeing for $50. Got to this websire, the the second page of product offerings. They have been in the cylinder/casting game for quite a while. Seems like all trails end here...they are the manufacturer and are the ones shown on eBay and Alibaba. I had the alibaba link but this is the direct link to their factory site.

http://www.hairunmachine.com/page168?product_category=7