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Husqvarna - Stihl - Poulan - Jonsered - Dolmar chainsaws and more => Stihl => Topic started by: Cut4fun . on November 30, 2014, 10:37:29 am

Title: Red stihl on off switch
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 30, 2014, 10:37:29 am
I know in the past I have been ask when I get stihls in people ask me if red on off switch or not.  Whats the difference in the saws with the red switch? 

I know D combustion chamber cylinders were on some stihls but never linked it to red switches.

I'm in a area where this one was for sale and got me wondering.

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Title: Re: Red stihl on off switch
Post by: 660magnum on November 30, 2014, 11:00:36 am
When you work on them, some switches are red and some are black. They are made the same on the inside.

I guess that wasn't the point?
Title: Re: Red stihl on off switch
Post by: 660magnum on November 30, 2014, 11:49:12 am
I looked at my Stihls. First of all, they are so old and having been mixed and matched, it would be hard to say?

Of this picture of 025's / MS 250. The oldest of the 025's has a red choke lever and the small 2 port cylinder. It was a 1991 model but after having worked on it. The parts are mixtures of all years of 025's and MS250's even though it was a one owner. It's a sweet heart to use.

025's http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=274.0;attach=7246;image

And I have this 026 and you say it has a "D" shaped combustion chamber but it has a black choke lever. I don't consider this saw to be a valid example as it is a old one with mixed and matched parts. Excellent saw though.

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Title: Re: Red stihl on off switch
Post by: man of stihl on November 30, 2014, 12:19:58 pm
I was told that about the 044`s. But I assumed it was because it had the more desirable 10mm crank.
Title: Re: Red stihl on off switch
Post by: 660magnum on November 30, 2014, 06:29:15 pm
My point up above is that it would be hard to tell about a red choke lever by looking at old Stihls because they likely have many substituted parts from other saws.

Most old Stihls have parts from many different years. They are older and were used right along all those years and as parts wear out or break, they are replaced.

Mine are all that way. My 066 is definitely a 066 but as you study it, you discover 066 parts from three different generations of 066's. 

I wouldn't trade any of my remaining Stihls for a Husqvarna or Dolmar. I like my Stihls just the way they are and my other popular brands for themselves.
Title: Re: Red stihl on off switch
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 30, 2014, 08:57:15 pm
Jim that one 026  has a d shaped cc but no clue what 026 it came off of. Was took in on a  trade deal for it. Not original to that saw.
Title: Re: Red stihl on off switch
Post by: 660magnum on November 30, 2014, 09:35:35 pm
I looked in the IPL's and there's just a choke lever - one number - no red or black?
Title: Re: Red stihl on off switch
Post by: man of stihl on December 01, 2014, 03:24:46 pm
I just looked at my stihls again. All 3 of my flat top 066`s and one of my three non pro 026`s have the red switch. ???
Title: Re: Red stihl on off switch
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 01, 2014, 07:35:41 pm
I just looked at my stihls again. All 3 of my flat top 066`s and one of my three non pro 026`s have the red switch. ???

I just got to call the stihl guru to refresh my memory. I have forgotten everything he had told me in the past about the red switch deal.
Title: Re: Red stihl on off switch
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 02, 2014, 03:45:29 pm
From what was said in the phone call.   

The red switched 026, 034, 034 super, 044 are the strongest runners in the stock form they have run and owned.  Thinks it has to do with the stock porting numbers of transfers and exhaust. 

Possibly the different walbro and tillotson carbs making a difference too

The D shaped CC has nothing to do with red switched saws.

The 066 red switch  hasnt noticed anything much different then other flat tops.
Title: Re: Red stihl on off switch
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 02, 2014, 03:49:26 pm
The original posted 026 red switch pic in this thread was a metal tag with rivets  that was for sale while I was traveling during Thanksgiving. Asking price was $200.

 
Title: Re: Red stihl on off switch
Post by: man of stihl on December 02, 2014, 04:37:03 pm
Thanks for the info
Title: Re: Red stihl on off switch
Post by: HolmenTree on December 03, 2014, 03:47:15 pm
Interesting.
I was a technical services manager for Stihl Canada in 1989, even had meetings with Hans Peter Stihl.
I never heard of the legend of the "extra performance " flagged with a red colored master control switch. :D
Title: Re: Red stihl on off switch
Post by: mcbob on December 03, 2014, 06:21:44 pm
Hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Title: Re: Red stihl on off switch
Post by: Eccentric on December 04, 2014, 12:38:53 am
Interesting.
I was a technical services manager for Stihl Canada in 1989, even had meetings with Hans Peter Stihl.
I never heard of the legend of the "extra performance " flagged with a red colored master control switch. :D

LOL.  It's probably more a case of them using red switches during the time frame that the 'best' (meaning less EPA detuned) versions of these saws were being built.  The change to black plastic switches may have come around the same time as the other changes....
Title: Re: Red stihl on off switch
Post by: HolmenTree on December 04, 2014, 10:12:05 am
Well EPA was no concern for chainsaws back in the 1980-'90s unless you're talking about California. I've made a living running Stihl saws for 28 years and never owned a red switched one.  My 1992 066 Mag with dual muffler outlets had lots of balls with it's black master control switch :D
I do recall some red ones though and if my memory serves me correctly they were on "Wood Boss" units here in Canada.
Title: Re: Red stihl on off switch
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 04, 2014, 01:07:04 pm
If you notice it was said there was no differences noted in old flat top 066 saws  with red or black switches.   ;) :D
Title: Re: Red stihl on off switch
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 04, 2014, 01:12:39 pm
I guess I did have a red switched 066. Never noticed.  Saw was already ported and shaved fly by the time I got it in trade. 
Was ported by Ricky Hennessy from TN.