Chainsaw Repair
Dealers New Used OEM Aftermarket Chainsaw Parts online => CCC Chainsaw Conservation Components => Topic started by: DefinitiveDave on January 08, 2015, 01:37:36 pm
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Hey guys I am new here. I guess a quick bio with a few candid **** may be in order so here goes.
I own an upscale landscape firm in central Ohio and a few years ago a good buddy straight gassed my favorite MS361. My local Stihl dealer told nme it would be cheaper to buy a new 362 than to fix the saw so I did, but I spent a little time online and eventually got an aftermarket big bore kit on Ebay and had a local guy install it for me. Waaaaay less than the new 362 cost me. Reading, reading, reading, buy some tools, fix a few of my own saws, discover I really like working on saws so I decide to rebuild an 066 so I would have a big saw for the odd times I might need it. I accidentally buy an old Stihl dealership's remaining stock and trade in saws. I join arboristsite, become a sponsor so I can advertise my big chainsaw yardsale. Cut4Fun sends me a message about his ohio based site, and my brain just does nothing about it, because my brain does stupid **** sometimes. ASite gets hacked, turnout is less than half what I had expected at yardsale but still break even on the whole purchase of the shop in one afternoon. Hmmmmm... I like saws more now. Start selling saws n parts on Ebay, locate through heavy research a few good overseas vendors, buy small orders at first to check things our then larger orders to the point I am spending three times what the store cost every month on parts. more learning and selling, trading, etc. My son decides college is a waste of time, so he starts selling parts on Ebay, we do real well, he works a few hours a day at most, makes better money than I did when I was twice his age. crazy world. I start posting at SawHawgz which has a little less dickish moderation and start learning what other saw guys are looking for in parts, etc. Sell to a steady group of local guys and pro or semipro builders and plenty of hobbiest guys. I Give ASite another shot, some wheat amongst the chaff for sure. Cut4Fun gets hold of me again and it occurs to me I should have looked into his site long ago. So here I am.
I am a dealer for Farmertec, Meteor, Caber, Walbro, Zama, Bing, Tillotson, Oregon and my Stihl dealer likes me (or my money) enough that I can get Stihl parts for guys wh odon't have a good local dealer. Not cheaper but at least can get them what they need in a lot of cases.
so that is about the size of it
I do not have inventory of cool old stuff, but a couple of times a year I visit an old man who is a time capsule of Poulan, Homelite, Mcculloch parts and knowledge, no fax, no computer, just hundreds of drawers and shelves of NOS parts that he last inventoried and priced in the mid 1980's. If you need some unobtanium for an old saw, put the part numbers in order and get them to me. He does it all by hand so no jerking him around if you say you want it and he has it, it is time to pay up. I make nothing on it, he has offered to sell to me a few times, but I just really like to work on Stihls so the rest isn't as interesting to me.
DDave
http://www.chainsawcc.com/ - Selling products from Stihl, Meteor, Caber, Walbro, Tillotson, Zama, Farmertec, Oregon for Stihl and other orange Saws.
http://www.chainsawconservationcomponents.com/ if you just love to type long names.
My eBay Store: http://stores.ebay.com/Chainsaw-Conservation-Components
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Welcome to the site.
If you decide to change the heading let me know to like CCC or full name etc.
Great to have a local Ohio connection to some stihl parts especially.
Hope you find it very rewarding here. Hope you share some of that knowledge with us too.
Also what was the link to your website again?
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Welcome to the site.
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Welcome Dave. Enjoyed my visit to your shop a couple years ago when you were having a sale. I bought a Oregon 511A. I lived out on Broad St back in the late 60's.
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Welcome to the site Dave my friend. I'll have another list of old part #'s for you soon. Poulan and Mac this time. Thanks again for hooking me up with those Homelite parts, and for all the other cool stuff you've sent my way.
I changed the title of your thread to reflect the name of your site (whether you like it or not).8)
Also put your store page and eBay store links into your first post, so folks here can see what you have to offer. Harvested them from you sig line on SH. I'll refrain from (once again) giving you grief about your bias towards the Stihls (for now).:D
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Welcome to the site Dave my friend. I'll have another list of old part #'s for you soon. Poulan and Mac this time. Thanks again for hooking me up with those Homelite parts, and for all the other cool stuff you've sent my way.
I changed the title of your thread to reflect the name of your site (whether you like it or not).8)
Also put your store page and eBay store links into your first post, so folks here can see what you have to offer. Harvested them from you sig line on SH. I'll refrain from giving you grief about your bias towards the Stihls (for now).:D
Thank You too.
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Ok 66Mag were you with your son and trying to decide if the auto advance thingamabobber was worth a try? I had 2 grinders and a crappy memory.
My memory sucks, I honest to god keep a cheat sheet of guys I know online, cause when you meet them in real life it is a little surreal.
I barely remember duke and john and I have met them in person multiple times :)
DDave
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There were two of us there. You had a GB and a Oregon grinder. I bought the Oregon 511A. Probably should have bought them both? The other guy was a friend (Carbine). i got grand kids older than he is. He bought some patches and a hat or something from you.
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yeah yeah ok you would say things casually about saws like all the world already knew and I would stand dumbfounded and slack-jawed at the knowledge bombs:) There were a few guys like you who I wish I had the time to sit around for hours soaking it in. I remember Gary was like that (guido Salvage) he ran around from area to area item to item with almost a running commentary on everything his glance fell upon.
If I remembered half of what I heard in those few days I might be a little more than the half wit I am.
Your buddy was oogling a logmaster maybe??
Dave
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Dave, Jeff - carbine and Gary - guido are here too. Just not very active here with repairs.
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so you are saying they are slackers who can't fix stuff - ok cool :)
DDave
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I remember my friend eyeballing it some. He looked at a lot the 2 hrs we were there. I was set on the grinder which works great BTW.
Guido does seem like a nice casual guy when you are around him. I bought a Stihl weed whacker from him that he brought to a GTG.
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I think Jeff did three saws last year but this year has not done any. He's been trap shooting.
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so you are saying they are slackers who can't fix stuff - ok cool :)
DDave
No not slackers at all. They dont need help or info and have other interest. JMO
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Hey guys I am new here. I guess a quick bio with a few candid **** may be in order so here goes.
I own an upscale landscape firm in central Ohio and a few years ago a good buddy straight gassed my favorite MS361. My local Stihl dealer told nme it would be cheaper to buy a new 362 than to fix the saw so I did, but I spent a little time online and eventually got an aftermarket big bore kit on Ebay and had a local guy install it for me. Waaaaay less than the new 362 cost me. Reading, reading, reading, buy some tools, fix a few of my own saws, discover I really like working on saws so I decide to rebuild an 066 so I would have a big saw for the odd times I might need it. I accidentally buy an old Stihl dealership's remaining stock and trade in saws. I join arboristsite, become a sponsor so I can advertise my big chainsaw yardsale. Cut4Fun sends me a message about his ohio based site, and my brain just does nothing about it, because my brain does stupid **** sometimes. ASite gets hacked, turnout is less than half what I had expected at yardsale but still break even on the whole purchase of the shop in one afternoon. Hmmmmm... I like saws more now. Start selling saws n parts on Ebay, locate through heavy research a few good overseas vendors, buy small orders at first to check things our then larger orders to the point I am spending three times what the store cost every month on parts. more learning and selling, trading, etc. My son decides college is a waste of time, so he starts selling parts on Ebay, we do real well, he works a few hours a day at most, makes better money than I did when I was twice his age. crazy world. I start posting at SawHawgz which has a little less dickish moderation and start learning what other saw guys are looking for in parts, etc. Sell to a steady group of local guys and pro or semipro builders and plenty of hobbiest guys. I Give ASite another shot, some wheat amongst the chaff for sure. Cut4Fun gets hold of me again and it occurs to me I should have looked into his site long ago. So here I am.
I am a dealer for Farmertec, Meteor, Caber, Walbro, Zama, Bing, Tillotson, Oregon and my Stihl dealer likes me (or my money) enough that I can get Stihl parts for guys wh odon't have a good local dealer. Not cheaper but at least can get them what they need in a lot of cases.
so that is about the size of it
I do not have inventory of cool old stuff, but a couple of times a year I visit an old man who is a time capsule of Poulan, Homelite, Mcculloch parts and knowledge, no fax, no computer, just hundreds of drawers and shelves of NOS parts that he last inventoried and priced in the mid 1980's. If you need some unobtanium for an old saw, put the part numbers in order and get them to me. He does it all by hand so no jerking him around if you say you want it and he has it, it is time to pay up. I make nothing on it, he has offered to sell to me a few times, but I just really like to work on Stihls so the rest isn't as interesting to me.
DDave
http://www.chainsawcc.com/ - Selling products from Stihl, Meteor, Caber, Walbro, Tillotson, Zama, Farmertec, Oregon for Stihl and other orange Saws.
http://www.chainsawconservationcomponents.com/ if you just love to type long names.
My eBay Store: http://stores.ebay.com/Chainsaw-Conservation-Components
TL;DR!
:)
Dave here is a good guy, stands behind his stuff and is a real deal honest businessman.
A couple of times I headed out that way to pick up stuff, spent more time talking than we did loading. Good times for sure!
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Have you ever priced the total cost to be able to put a china copy 044 440 saw together? Talking all aftermarket parts.
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not everything available yet
you can do a 260, 361 and 660 though
I have thought of putting a saw box together for these on Ebay but don't want the hassle of hand holding a newbie who might decide to ruin my feedback by being pissed at not knowing how to build a saw.
DDave
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Might still figure out box kits and offer to folks here. Most of us here dont need our hands held to do a rebuild. ;)
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round numbers without shipping, all Farmertec parts except badges and Magnum stickers
MS260 PHO - $250.00
MS361 PHO - $350.00
MS660 PHO - $450.00
or somethin' like that, not sure I have everything in stock but I might is somebody wants a fun puzzle
DDave
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Nice "kit" prices for a "Hobby" chainsaw. They are "look alike" classics of all time.
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I'm confused by all the quotes, are my prices ridick?
DDave
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those prices seem pretty good to me. Is that for the complete power head buyer just has to assemble?
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yeah complete ready to assemble power head
someone mentioned that it is about the same price as a used OEM saw, which is probably true
I envisioned this as an Ebay project because I have sold rebuild kits there for really decent money that were not complete saws but guys really like them.
For me building a saw from new clean parts is "easier" in that you don't have to tear everything down, figure out which parts are broken, worn , etc, clean everything and reassemble.
I certainly am not knocking an OEM saw, I have bought plenty new and used. Local guys like the 660 builder, fun and easy and profitable.
Dave
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round numbers without shipping, all Farmertec parts except badges and Magnum stickers
MS260 PHO - $250.00
MS361 PHO - $350.00
MS660 PHO - $450.00
or somethin' like that, not sure I have everything in stock but I might is somebody wants a fun puzzle
DDave
You got any pics of built saws to show off for us?
That way I can show guys in the shop that might want to try a new aftermarket over a used rebuilt.
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Cant find Caber 45mm x 1.5 rings on your website ?
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never had anyone ask for them before :)
I will round up some AM saw pics and put that a sleeve of rings on next months
Caber order
DDAve
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husky 350 353 51 55 etc use them. My most common ring used here. 45mm 1.5mm Thinking my 590 and 500 45mm open bore used them too.
Was just trying to go to you instead of NWS to keep it local. The rings are the main part of that order. Then the rest of the oem order going to JSE.
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Also 254 used that 45mm ring.
I was able to put another order in with you anyway Dave. 4th place in 2 days.
Those aftermarket decomps been holding up ok?
Also got me the bright orange shirt this time too. Just because my wife thinks I am so sexy in my bright highlight yellow lime green poulan shirt, LOL NOT! Did it just because she says it blinds her when I wear it. LMAO.
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I was able to add those Cabers to my order along with the 353 pistons that sold out :)
appreciate the business
On the AM decomp valves, if it is good when you install it, you will be fine forever, about 5 or 6 out of every hundred seem to seep right from the get go.
Jimmy in NC, told me he uses a valve seat refinisher to burnish the inside of the "dish" and then has no problems. I don't have one of those and would probably hurt myself if I did.
I just sell them knowing there will be a certain amount of failures amongst them and that when taking in to account the price differential between these and OEM and the fact that Farmertec never balks at replacing dead parts for me, they are still a great deal.
The other part that is a little on the iffy side for me is the chain adjuster assembly for the 024-660, it is stiff and about half-assed machined. If you install it completely with a good gob of grease in the guts and then work it from end to end with a large flat head screwdriver they are fine. It is as though you are finishing the threads manually between the gears. A little bit of a pain in the butt, but again the price differential is huge, so a lot of us use them.
Dave
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In the past, people have lapped decompression valves as automobile valves are sometimes lapped.
If you use Loctite Clover green can valve grinding compound, it must be the finest grade you can find.(#5 or #3 if you can find it?)
Some people just use white or red rubbing compound.
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a few shots of past Chinese AM saw builds
DDave
(http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t348/joviparagon/fauxsaws/IMG_3996_zps1bgku3ce.jpg)
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Dang they look sweet.
Maybe someday I'll get your way to run some if on hand. That 660 has my eye. I miss my ported 066. Then again I have been thinking 2188 this time around.
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Received Thanks. Wife just rolled her eyes at the bright orange shirt. ;) :D ;D
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total AM 361
(http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t348/joviparagon/faux66361260/IMG_6064_zpsxgzf2ixd.jpg)
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(http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t348/joviparagon/faux66361260/IMG_6065_zpsmvct7a0m.jpg)
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Looks great. How they look inside after a tear down inspection after being broke in?
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Received Thanks. Wife just rolled her eyes at the bright orange shirt. ;) :D ;D
LOL wife handed me the bright orange shirt today while working at the road edge. Came in handy.
Was digging up 2 foot of concrete just so I could do it again. Set a new mailbox pole that got run over this winter.
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Great guy to deal with. Super fast shipping.
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This is a quality aftermarket replacement part for Stihl MS360, MS361, MS440, MS460, 036, 044, 046, and TS400 chainsaws.
This part is a direct replacement with no fitment issues.
Do have a question since I am not familiar with the series all that well. The MS440 shows 1128 160 2004 and your replacement shows 1135 160 2050 , interchangeable?
@DefinitiveDave Any feedback on these aftermarket clutches you sell? I had a MS440 in that might be needing a new clutch over just springs replaced.
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Cut. the only difference that i have found is the clutch shoes and springs are different on the 1135 160 2050. But you still use the same clutch drum for either the 361/440/460.
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@DefinitiveDave any idea when your website will be back up and running for orders? Using the ebay store just isnt the same.
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Dave received the part today and installed in the guys saw. Works perfect and didnt have any problems like your ebay ad tells about. Thanks for the quick shipping too.
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sorry I am generally such a slacker about getting on and participating
The web store produced less than 3% of our business volume, and while it was an easy way for the good saw guys to save a little money, it played havoc with out inventory and resulted in lots of lost sales because of that.
I am trying to find the right way to issue coupons that will work on Ebay.
The system we have set up there now is efficient as heck. Once an item is properly set up we can add inventory whenever we get it. The system handles our sales, buys the postage at a discount, provides the labels and even helps automate returns and reships. It is FAST, and simple.
If anyone has suggestions for items they would like to see me stock, either OEM Stihl or any aftermarket stuff, drop me a line.
Dave
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How about OEM Husky stuff? I'll send you another list of AM stuff soon.
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Maybe I am a doofus, but aren't there a lot of actual Husqvarna dealers that sell online?
I might be in the dark on that cause I am a Stihl-nerd but I thought they weren't under the same restrictions as the Stihl dealers.
I have a couple of good buddies at a somewhat local Husky dealership but damn they are so slow to get parts.
I am going to put in a request for some Husky specialty tools. Brake spring reset tool is on the list, is there anything else I should look into?
Dave
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Maybe I am a doofus, but aren't there a lot of actual Husqvarna dealers that sell online?
I might be in the dark on that cause I am a Stihl-nerd but I thought they weren't under the same restrictions as the Stihl dealers.
Dave
Dolmar, Echo, Jonsered, Husqvarna are all available from a ton of different suppliers but suppliers that actually stock what they are selling is a different story. Most places drop ship which causes lots of parts that dont ship out for weeks while they wait on the distributor to get the parts in. That is the reason i dont advertise the jonsered/echo side of my business. I dont have the parts inventory to support online sales IMO.
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I guess I figure since the Stihl distributer is pretty close that all chainsaw manufacturers must have warehouses and dealers everywhere.
I can get Husky stuff but am a total dummy about it. Even when I bring in Meteor items for huskys I just hope nobody has a technical question :)
If there are common OEM husky items that people need a lot I would be happy to carry them but I figure the common stuff is what all the dealers have and to stand out I would have to know enough to have less common stuff on hand.
So much to learn, brain is so small and smooshy
D
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Husky dealers don't carry much of the 200 series parts anymore. I'll make a list for you of popular parts. Some aren't available from Husky anymore, but are available from the AM.
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Dave incoming email from CRS email. ;)
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Dave incoming email from CRS email. ;)
And another one on the way... 8)
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Hey DDave,
Do you have access to a am Husky kit, the entire powerhead?
Like your stihls?
I would be interested.
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Thanks again part arrived.
Hey you dont have a stihl 441 362 311 391 presence lever 1138 182 0800 11381820800 laying around do you. Trying to save a trip to the stihl dealer and not finding time yet to get there.
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Hey DDave,
Do you have access to a am Husky kit, the entire powerhead?
Like your stihls?
I would be interested.
I got a complete 365 set of parts for a guy once and I am pretty sure he built it, but don't know how easy it was or how well he liked it.
A complete Am saw is generally about as much as semi rough used runner.
Thanks again part arrived.
Hey you dont have a stihl 441 362 311 391 presence lever 1138 182 0800 11381820800 laying around do you. Trying to save a trip to the stihl dealer and not finding time yet to get there.
:( sorry I don't, I think I have pretty faded 441 air filter cover and tank and probably a decent cylinder and tank but not much else
Dave
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Dave
Looking for a am fuel tank for a Stihl 361. Sent you an email as well. Let me know what you can do.
Thanks
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Nevermind found what I was looking for.
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Dave I am trying to get hold of you. I dont want to go through ebay as it is asking why on the part.
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Look in your Email for his contact info
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Look in your Email for his contact info
Thanks
I PM'ed my phone # already.
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Good talking with you Dave. 8)
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Dave I installed 1 of the 2 AFM 272 carbs on the test saw today. Will be cutting on owners saw all day Thur he said.
You want me to Paypal you the $$ for both carbs? I mise well keep the other on hand. If so is your PP email the one here.
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DD Do you happen to have some (Bar) Oil Pump to Case seals (Seal rings) for MS660's in stock?? Have some ordered from...over there..:) But need a couple PDQ..
@DefinitiveDave
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I will check and include them with your order, I normally have some, I may have to go OEM though if I am out of the AM doobob seal doohickeys
Dave
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Are any of the OEM fuel lines other than the Stihl Green lines any part of decent in the modern ethanol fuel?
I read lot of fuel and fuel line threads and it doesn't seem like there is anything I can buy that wont suck :(
Dave
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(Subscribing)
Philbert
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Make you some cut4fun redneck lines and never look back. Just cut off fuel tank bushing from stihl hose ,draw your favorite tygon or true blue through the hole. Use a filter with correct size hole. Tell customers its better if they notice.
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Make you some cut4fun redneck lines and never look back. Just cut off fuel tank bushing from stihl hose ,draw your favorite tygon or true blue through the hole. Use a filter with correct size hole. Tell customers its better if they notice.
I give them the options up front. Only had a few stay with oem way so far.
Going to do the redneck fuel line deal on a husky 268 next to bypass the special molded line too.
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Are any of the OEM fuel lines other than the Stihl Green lines any part of decent in the modern ethanol fuel?
I read lot of fuel and fuel line threads and it doesn't seem like there is anything I can buy that wont suck :(
Dave
Dave have you read the fuel line thread here? http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/ported-saws/fuel-lines-tygon-etc/
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turns out I read far enough to give up all hope, but not far enough at all :)
Dave
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Dave you guys back to shipping again?
You healing up?
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yep we are still shipping daily, we only skipped last Friday, but leaving the Ebay store on "vacation" it seems to keep orders down to a lower level while I take my daily nap :)
I have at least three large import orders showing up next week so I hope to be a bit more on top of my game by then.
Visiting the surgeon tomorrow morning and should have a better picture of the rehab process then.
one handed typing is sooooo slow
Dave
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That clutch arrived and is going on the 440 that just came back in today. Thanks
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Thanks man ;) :P 8)
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What do you do when cold and windy as all get out. You try out Dave's new website and drool alittle.
Dave's new website http://chainsawcc.com/
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Nice site!
(might have to pass on some of the files!)
Lots of other good stuff though.
Philbert