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Title: Power broom
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 20, 2015, 02:15:57 pm
I really over did it this year with the limestone gravel 5/7 size thrown 6'/8' on both sides of 700' drive and in front of house.  Happens when plowing snow. Sure didnt look like I was getting into it that bad till snow melted.

Any how over the years I have many types of rakes even nice aluminum landscaping rakes etc.  As I get older I am looking for easier ways and have been using a leaf blower with flat end with great results last couple years.

Yesterday wife raking and me leaf blower got the front area of house cleared in about half hour. Only 20'/30' or so.  Now for the big job.

Over the years I have had a chance to buy the Shin power brooms used and something always happens and I end up not buying one.


Now I want to see if anyone has used one of these things made by echo shin stihl husky dolmar etc?  I want to know about getting gravel out of grass.

(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o300/truck841/Stihl.jpg)
(http://a1rental.net/itemimages/4521.jpg)
(http://mainehusqvarnadealer.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/power-broom.jpg)
(http://www.leossmallengines.com/StihlBroom_02.jpg)

Title: Re: Power broom
Post by: 660magnum on March 20, 2015, 02:47:43 pm
There's been a Echo for sale on CL in Mansfield for 6 mos or so.

He wants too much?  Let him try to sell it to you and find out what's supposed to be great about them?

http://mansfield.craigslist.org/grq/4921574734.html
Title: Re: Power broom
Post by: Ducksnuff870 on March 20, 2015, 02:59:33 pm
Never realized such devices were manufactured. We use brooms like the device in the bottom picture. The ones we use are mounted to a skidsteer or frontend loader. They would throw gravel back in the driveway I'm sure of it.
Title: Re: Power broom
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 20, 2015, 06:37:42 pm
Trying to find one to rent before buying. 

That one Jim is about 2-3 times more then the used shins I didnt buy $125-$150.  I think new they are just hair under $300 for attachment itself.
Title: Re: Power broom
Post by: Cut4fun on March 22, 2015, 10:56:24 am
Good video on the stihl 55 with powersweep

https://youtu.be/Tj69AxCt9eg
Title: Re: Power broom
Post by: Cut4fun on March 22, 2015, 10:58:26 am
Found what I hope is a power broom like I want to try for $41 rental.   Sunbelt rentals.  https://www.sunbeltrentals.com/?gclid=CNCp47ScvMQCFYU-aQodt1MA7g
 No go at the husky and HD rentals.

Title: Re: Power broom
Post by: Old Iron Logging on March 23, 2015, 06:17:10 pm
I have the km power sweep on KM 90. After church parking lot gets plowed all winter it used to take 5 people with rakes about 3 hours to clean up gravel. I can do it alone with power sweep in 30 minutes.  Power sweep will not hurt grass at all. MM 55 works great and is less tiring to use. We sell around 10 brooms per year. Hard to pick up a rake again after running the power sweeps.
Title: Re: Power broom
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 23, 2015, 08:33:28 pm
My local husky dealer has this lawn sweeper for $90 for 4 hrs. Worst case scenario if I cant get it before grass starts growing. Can be angled.

https://youtu.be/njnsibzIO90
Title: Re: Power broom
Post by: aclarke on March 23, 2015, 09:14:36 pm
The Stihl in the video looks nice!  Probably a lot easier on your back vs. The traditional type mounted to a "weedeater" chassis.
Title: Re: Power broom
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 26, 2015, 02:17:46 pm
Not sure of model numbers but guessing the Shins.  Info shared on them when first were coming out.

Those were originally patented by Ron Bergman of Bottineau, ND, the local Stihl dealer. Shindawa was the only company interested in them at the time. I used one of his prototypes at a display he had for Crazy Days in Bottineau. Farmers liked them to sweep out grain bins. They work good on snow if it is not too deep and you angle it as you walk. The paddles on the drum were originally from the belts on grain pickups for harvesting swathed cereal crops. Jim, you probably still have them in use from Sund Manufacturing in Newburg, ND up in your area. Early 90's is right on when they came on market.
Title: Re: Power broom
Post by: RoyM on March 26, 2015, 10:32:20 pm
They work well clearing light dry snow, bog down in wet snow and slush. They also tend to bounce leaving ripples of snow. The FS 55 really does not have enough power to drive one, the wheel kit is needed to keep the pressure off the paddles. The bristle attachment is great for cleaning gravel out of the lawn.
Title: Re: Power broom
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 05, 2015, 11:37:01 am
Wife says to just rent the big sweeper from the husky dealer. Son home for Easter said he would rake it all for that $ when he gets out of college in May.  LOL I dont think he realizes how long and hard that is.  Believe it when I see it.

Bet I get the rental. ;)
Title: Re: Power broom
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 25, 2015, 10:22:52 pm
Tested out that used PAS 260 today.  Look like she been used pretty good the PH part. Power broom part good shape.
Had a broken choke switch. Had to remove the cover and move choke closed with finger. Once got it running had to put air filter and cover on. If it died go through everything again. 
Carb acted like it could use a rebuilding or a adjusting. Wouldnt take throttle.

So after testing telling the guy at pawn shop about the choke and how carb acted. I ask for his best cash price. Wouldnt budge off $309. I just turned and walked out.
Title: Re: Power broom
Post by: aclarke on April 25, 2015, 10:41:12 pm
Glad u walked.  I'll keep my eyes peeled out here for a used machine
Title: Re: Power broom
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 26, 2015, 08:35:02 pm
Glad u walked.  I'll keep my eyes peeled out here for a used machine

Shipping would be a killer from there IMO.

I am a idiot really  :-X. I have bought 2 saws I dont need and they come to the price of that power broom I walked on.   Maybe I should have not bought the saws and put my $ where it should have went.   ::)
The one saw I just wanted to test out stock 181SE, the other is a saw on my list and not here yet. ;)

The 181SE will be going to a member that wants to collect it and will be coming to your state.  The other will go along my other 60cc versions ;) when it arrives. Will have more in the 60cc then I do the 81cc.   Now make sense of that.  :P
Title: Re: Power broom
Post by: aclarke on April 26, 2015, 10:54:37 pm
Lol!  I just bought a 550xp instead of the weedeater I really needed at home.
Title: Re: Power broom
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 27, 2015, 04:38:45 pm
Glad to see it just isnt me. I mean dang. Blow $300 on saws I could have bought the dang power sweeper thing for the $309 asking.  Guess it was just the point with me walking from the pawn shop dude and his price.

I can rent a husky version for $46 for a day to try.  Least that is what their online place shows at the local husky dealer.  He also has that skidsteer with power brush for rent for 4hrs, 2hrs on meter for $89.
Title: Re: Power broom
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 20, 2017, 07:17:18 pm
Finally pulled the trigger on a new one. I was going to buy a new gun or ?  I decided now was the time to get one of these and be done with it.

Nate convinced me into going ahead and getting the bigger powerhead Echo PAS 280.  Had him order me up the power broom rubber paddle attachment. 

So hopefully will be visiting Nate's shop here real soon. Thanks Nate for putting up with me over the years asking questions on this.

(http://www.rentallofboston.com/uploads/1/2/0/9/12098063/s799744290713431839_p1247_i1_w450.jpeg)
(http://www.knightsinc.com/99944200620.jpg)
Title: Echo PAS
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 21, 2017, 01:30:20 pm
@Nathaniel Vansickle  reading up on the 14 attachments offered for the Echo PAS system.

See there is 3 trimmer heads offered.  1 curved, 2 straight. 

On the 2 straight ones, what is the difference between the cheaper one and the pro one?

 99944200540
Speed-Feed Trimmer Attachment
commercial grade trimmer

 99944200545
Pro-Torque Trimmer Attachment
heavy-duty commercial grade
Title: Re: Echo PAS
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on February 21, 2017, 01:35:19 pm
 99944200540
Speed-Feed Trimmer Attachment
commercial grade trimmer

this is the one you want

 

99944200545
Pro-Torque Trimmer Attachment
heavy-duty commercial grade

this one has a gear reduction in the head. havent quite found a need for this one
Title: Re: Power broom
Post by: Cut4fun on February 25, 2017, 08:19:26 pm
Finally pulled the trigger.  Echo PAS 280 with power paddle and trimmer head. Plus few other things.

Thanks to @Nathaniel Vansickle

Had a great visit and talk at your shop  8).  Just wish I could have brought  home some other things I saw there.  :'(   
Might have to sell all big poulan series saws and parts off for that new toy.  :P  See what happens.






Title: Re: Power broom
Post by: 660magnum on February 26, 2017, 07:18:57 am
That was an impressive visit. I enjoyed being there. Picked up a couple items I had been thinking about and he had them in stock.
Title: Re: Power broom
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on February 26, 2017, 10:42:20 am
nice meeting the both of you. Thankfully was a slow day.

Keep us posted on how the powerbroom works. I am curious because we run into the same issue plowing up at my cousins car lot....may be something i need to look into getting to rent out when we move to the new building and have room for that kind of stuff
Title: Re: Power broom
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 26, 2017, 11:23:00 am
Just put together and followed instructions on how to break the paddles in on a rough surface first.  Like sidewalk or asphalt. I used ole concrete pad.

Then just tested in the  gravel left by the ole garage. Took it right to a bare area quickly.  Throwing it several feet in front  :o.

It was like 25 degrees so the test on the gravel in the grass will have to wait. 

I really really hated leaving that saw I had my eye on there.   :'(  momma would have kicked my azz.  ;) :D
Title: Re: Power broom
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 26, 2017, 11:27:24 am
Nate another thing that impressed me. It is not often you talk to a shop owner dealer and they actually know what they are talking about.   8) 8) 8)
You impressed the heck out of me with your knowledge and sharing of info I never even knew before.

I learned stuff yesterday and that makes for a great day in itself.

Thank you

Kevin
Title: Re: Power broom
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 27, 2017, 05:15:44 pm
Today after firing the grill up I was dying to know.  I took the new toy down the gravel drive on the grass areas. About 300' worth.
I was like holy chit man. I am kicking myself in the azz for not buying one of these years back.
It was pulling old buried gravel out of the dirt and tossing them back on the driveway. I found if you go straight on it would throw them 8'-10' across the drive. So found going at a angle way better. 
Highly impressed @Nathaniel Vansickle  with the way this ope pulls the gravel out of the grass and embedded in dirt. 

I would say yes to having some as rentals when you get set up in your new shop. ;)

couple pics = all ;D 's

Title: Re: Power broom
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 27, 2017, 02:31:04 pm
Holy crap she is getting stronger with break in. Had to use my leg against the handle side to keep it from pushing me back as I was removing the gravel from the grass.

@Nathaniel Vansickle  do you know which one of these braces I would need?

http://www.echo-usa.com/Products/Accessories/Trimmer-Accessories

C405000170
Barrier Bar 2-Bolt Pattern

Mount right to the underside of existing left handles and offer great control and are required when using the Pro Maxi-Cut or Tri-Cut plastic blades and any metal blades.
   GT-225, GT-225i, GT-230, SRM-225i, SRM-230, SRM-266, SRM-266S, SRM-266T, SRM-280, SRM-280S, SRM-280T, SRM-225U, SRM-266U, SRM-280U, SRM-410U


OR


99944200455
Barrier Bar 4-Bolt Pattern

Mount right to the underside of existing left handles and offer great control and are required when using the Pro Maxi-Cut or Tri-Cut plastic blades and any metal blades.
   GT-225, GT-225i, GT-230, SRM-225i, SRM-230, SRM-266, SRM-266S, SRM-266T, SRM-280, SRM-280S, SRM-280T, SRM-225U, SRM-266U, SRM-280U, SRM-410U
Title: Re: Power broom
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 27, 2017, 02:36:24 pm
Nate does this just replace the existing bottom part of my handle already on it? 
If so I just need to check to see if 2 bolt or 4 bolt to know.
Title: Re: Power broom
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on March 27, 2017, 06:08:27 pm
yep, jsut the bottom part.

I think it is 2 bolt but check to be sure.

C405000170 is the part number for the 2 bolt handle. $4.18
Title: Re: Power broom
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 27, 2017, 08:33:24 pm
Yep just 2 bolts in the middle of handle on this one.
Title: Re: Power broom
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 27, 2017, 08:36:12 pm
4bolt one in first pic. They got the pics messed up?


99944200455 Bar-Barrier

(http://www.ereplacementparts.com/images/part_p_522245_2432739274.gif)

C405000170 Barrier Bar    2bolt

(http://www.ereplacementparts.com/images/part_p_527969_2614253030.gif)
Title: Re: Power broom
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 27, 2017, 08:39:26 pm
This pic looks right for 2 bolt one

Title: Re: Power broom
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 28, 2017, 07:04:37 pm
This pic looks right for 2 bolt one

(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4784.0;attach=20400;image)


I ordered this one being it looks the same as whats on mine. Thos other 2 above are different.
Title: Re: Power broom
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 01, 2017, 06:16:42 pm
The C405000170 Barrier Bar 2 bolt design came in and just what this thing needed.  8)

Thanks for help Nate.



Title: Re: Power broom
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 05, 2017, 12:42:32 pm
Found another good use for the power paddle or powerbroom today.

Wife ask hey you think that thing you bought to do gravel would move fallen apples? Said I think so lets see.
7 trees later = works great even in taller grass that needs mowed.

Think I need to breakdown and buy my ole azz a 4 point harness though. Wore me out lifting and carrying back each time.

99944200202