Chainsaw Repair

Husqvarna - Stihl - Poulan - Jonsered - Dolmar chainsaws and more => Poulan => Topic started by: Cut4fun . on April 05, 2015, 10:39:23 am

Title: NLA Poulan Jonsered parts 415 425 445 475 505 2077 2083
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 05, 2015, 10:39:23 am
Putting together a parts list on Ordertree. Noticed more and more of these series chainsaws parts are NLA.   :'(

So figure we better start a part numbers etc list and the fix for them for down the road.
Title: Re: NLA Poulan Jonsered parts 415 425 445 475 505 2077 2083
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 05, 2015, 10:41:00 am
Poulan 475 2077 piston NLA.  You can use a BB372 aftermarket piston drop in no work or widen pin bosses on a stihl 064 piston.

Poulan 445 piston NLA.  Husqvarna 372 piston drop in.
Title: Re: NLA Poulan Jonsered parts 415 425 445 475 505 2077 2083
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 05, 2015, 06:19:23 pm
Poulan 415 475 PTO side seal 503422201 NLA  Update is to use a husqvarna 385 390 etc crankcase bearing and seal set. Like what is already in the 445 425 505.

Still wonder if there is a seal out there that may work so splitting cases isnt a have to.
Title: Re: NLA Poulan Jonsered parts 415 425 445 475 505 2077 2083
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 05, 2015, 10:14:27 pm
Poulan 415 475 PTO side seal 503422201 NLA  Update is to use a husqvarna 385 390 etc crankcase bearing and seal set. Like what is already in the 445 425 505.

Still wonder if there is a seal out there that may work so splitting cases isnt a have to.

Back when I rebuilt my 475 I searched for some time to try and find a seal that would work, but that seal is so thin and needs to be that way so the oil pump will clear.   I could never find a replacement seal.   Maybe someone else will have better luck but that seal is a real bear to find a replacement.
Title: Re: NLA Poulan Jonsered parts 415 425 445 475 505 2077 2083
Post by: SawTroll on April 06, 2015, 08:38:48 am
I believe I have read something about using 066/660 pistons in the 2083/505 82.4cc cylinders, but don't remember what modifications it takes?
Title: Re: NLA Poulan Jonsered parts 415 425 445 475 505 2077 2083
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 06, 2015, 12:19:07 pm
I believe I have read something about using 066/660 pistons in the 2083/505 82.4cc cylinders, but don't remember what modifications it takes?

Yes I have used a 066 piston and many others have too in the 505 2083.  All you have to do is widen pin bosses.

066 is in my wildthing 505.

partner 5000 coil fits right in to make unlimited, using in the WT. Same thing for the husky 55 etc coils too.
Title: Re: NLA Poulan Jonsered parts 415 425 445 475 505 2077 2083
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 06, 2015, 12:21:52 pm
Poulan 415 475 PTO side seal 503422201 NLA  Update is to use a husqvarna 385 390 etc crankcase bearing and seal set. Like what is already in the 445 425 505.

Still wonder if there is a seal out there that may work so splitting cases isnt a have to.

Back when I rebuilt my 475 I searched for some time to try and find a seal that would work, but that seal is so thin and needs to be that way so the oil pump will clear.   I could never find a replacement seal.   Maybe someone else will have better luck but that seal is a real bear to find a replacement.

Wonder if we went to the update oiler wing gear used in the 505 445 425.  Then I wonder if there would be a usable seal. 

I'll have to pay attention someday. I have a 505 425 torn down right now but not a 415 475 torn down right now  to compare that.
Title: Re: NLA Poulan Jonsered parts 415 425 445 475 505 2077 2083
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 06, 2015, 12:50:40 pm
I had not looked into that Kevin and it might be worth a try.
Title: Re: NLA Poulan Jonsered parts 415 425 445 475 505 2077 2083
Post by: Cut4fun on April 06, 2015, 12:58:03 pm
It would just be nice to have a seal instead of having to split the case every time for a pto seal leak.   Thats why I was thinking about this.

 I have a 505 with pto seal leak. Have to split to do the bearing seal kit.

I got 1 NLA 475 pto crank seal from Tim aka fossil but that was it for me back then. Now I wish I had grab another.  You got some back then too?

My 475 had a bad fly side seal which is same a 372 seal. But I didnt have a pto seal to replace. Thank goodness it was still good. At the time I didnt have a pto seal I got from Tim.
Title: Re: NLA Poulan Jonsered parts 415 425 445 475 505 2077 2083
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 06, 2015, 01:04:10 pm
Poulan 415 475 PTO side seal 503422201 NLA  Update is to use a husqvarna 385 390 etc crankcase bearing and seal set. Like what is already in the 445 425 505.

Still wonder if there is a seal out there that may work so splitting cases isnt a have to.

How does the husky bearing and seal work.   Is the bearing not as wide and will allow a wider seal to fit and is the oil pump compatible with the new seal.   On mine there was a spacer behind the worm gear that fit inside the seal.
Title: Re: NLA Poulan Jonsered parts 415 425 445 475 505 2077 2083
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 06, 2015, 01:07:00 pm
It would just be nice to have a seal instead of having to split the case every time for a pto seal leak.   Thats why I was thinking about this.

 I have a 505 with pto seal leak. Have to split to do the bearing seal kit.

I got 1 NLA 475 pto crank seal from Tim aka fossil but that was it for me back then. Now I wish I had grab another.  You got some back then too?

My 475 had a bad fly side seal which is same a 372 seal. But I didnt have a pto seal to replace. Thank goodness it was still good. At the time I didnt have a pto seal I got from Tim.

I believe I got 2 seals from Tim.   I still have not used them.    Very very touph to find.
Title: Re: NLA Poulan Jonsered parts 415 425 445 475 505 2077 2083
Post by: Cut4fun on April 06, 2015, 01:17:34 pm
Just like the pic of the 505 one I showed.  I will get 385 and 505 to show you.
Title: Re: NLA Poulan Jonsered parts 415 425 445 475 505 2077 2083
Post by: Cut4fun on April 06, 2015, 01:27:37 pm
poulan 425 445 505 pto crankcase bearing and seal kit.
husqvarna 385 390 pto bearing seal kit.

503251201
Title: Re: NLA Poulan Jonsered parts 415 425 445 475 505 2077 2083
Post by: Cut4fun on April 06, 2015, 01:30:32 pm
UPDATED part number I just come across for above.

Husqvarna Authorized Substitution

The part number 503251201 has been changed to part number 503251301. While the new part may look different, this is a Husqvarna approved substitution.

Please note that the price and availability shown is for the new part number 503251301.

rand    Husqvarna
Old Part Number    503251201
New Part Number    503251301
Condition    New
Title: Re: NLA Poulan Jonsered parts 415 425 445 475 505 2077 2083
Post by: Billyhilly1 on April 06, 2015, 01:55:16 pm
Hi I'm looking for a clutch cover for my jonsered 2083. Is there a husky or other available part that will fit?
Thanks will


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: NLA Poulan Jonsered parts 415 425 445 475 505 2077 2083
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 06, 2015, 01:57:15 pm
Hi I'm looking for a clutch cover for my jonsered 2083. Is there a husky or other available part that will fit?
Thanks will


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You can cut and make a husky 272 268 etc fit.  In thread here where I did one and Roger.

2077 2083 415 425 445 505 475 all fit yours.
Title: Re: NLA Poulan Jonsered parts 415 425 445 475 505 2077 2083
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 06, 2015, 02:01:28 pm
Hi I'm looking for a clutch cover for my jonsered 2083. Is there a husky or other available part that will fit?
Thanks will


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You can cut and make a husky 272 268 etc fit.  In thread here where I did one and Roger.

2077 2083 415 425 445 505 475 all fit yours.

http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/poulan/plastic-clutch-cover-wear/

husky cover cut

(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=46.0;attach=1519;image)


Title: Re: NLA Poulan Jonsered parts 415 425 445 475 505 2077 2083
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 06, 2015, 02:04:06 pm
poulan 425 445 505 pto crankcase bearing and seal kit.
husqvarna 385 390 pto bearing seal kit.

503251201


poulan 475 pto seal pic

Title: Re: NLA Poulan Jonsered parts 415 425 445 475 505 2077 2083
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 06, 2015, 06:24:48 pm
Ok and then you use the wing type oiler.   
Title: Re: NLA Poulan Jonsered parts 415 425 445 475 505 2077 2083
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 06, 2015, 06:34:49 pm
Ok and then you use the wing type oiler.   

Not my pic. Just trying to get the idea of it without going to dig the NOS seal out in the barn.
Title: Re: NLA Poulan Jonsered parts 415 425 445 475 505 2077 2083
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 06, 2015, 06:51:21 pm
Roger what was that deal with one of yours having the wrong seal in it?  Does it look like that deal on this 475 pic above?
Title: Re: NLA Poulan Jonsered parts 415 425 445 475 505 2077 2083
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 06, 2015, 06:57:36 pm
hmmmm

Noticed the 425 445 505 crankshaft has a different part number then the 415 475 crankshaft.  Wonder now.

poulan 415 475 IPL http://www.poulanpro.com/ddoc/poui/poui1994_usen/poui1994_usen__530067868.pdf

poulan 425 445 505 IPL  http://www.poulanpro.com/ddoc/PPOI/PPOI1997_AAen/PPOI1997_AAen_PP425,%20445,%20505_530083227.pdf
Title: Re: NLA Poulan Jonsered parts 415 425 445 475 505 2077 2083
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 06, 2015, 07:18:53 pm
425 445 505 oiler gear set up.

(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0032/0472/products/chainsawr_3257815_medium.jpg?v=1318362841)



415 475 worm gear set up

(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0032/0472/products/2083_001_medium.JPG?v=1412275055)
Title: Re: NLA Poulan Jonsered parts 415 425 445 475 505 2077 2083
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 06, 2015, 07:50:54 pm
Roger what was that deal with one of yours having the wrong seal in it?  Does it look like that deal on this 475 pic above?

When I originally got my 475 it had the wrong seal on the PTO side and it was starting to leak.   Also I discovered the bearing were starting to lock up.   So I split the case and installed new bearings and seals.
Title: Re: NLA Poulan Jonsered parts 415 425 445 475 505 2077 2083
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 06, 2015, 09:04:40 pm
When I get that bare 475 crankcase I will try out the newer oiler wing gear on it.
Title: Re: NLA Poulan Jonsered parts 415 425 445 475 505 2077 2083
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 06, 2015, 10:27:20 pm
When I get that bare 475 crankcase I will try out the newer oiler wing gear on it.

Good let me know how that works.
Title: Re: NLA Poulan Jonsered parts 415 425 445 475 505 2077 2083
Post by: SawTroll on April 06, 2015, 10:58:02 pm
I believe I have read something about using 066/660 pistons in the 2083/505 82.4cc cylinders, but don't remember what modifications it takes?

Yes I have used a 066 piston and many others have too in the 505 2083.  All you have to do is widen pin bosses.

066 is in my wildthing 505.

....
I believe my memory is from posts by Jacob J. in other forums, but not sure....
Title: Re: NLA Poulan Jonsered parts 415 425 445 475 505 2077 2083
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 07, 2015, 12:25:47 pm
Not from a memory reading a post  ;). Done it, a 066 piston in a 505.  Ron did the 066 piston in a 2083 here too.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2002envoy/case2150005_zps3458fcea.jpg)







Title: Re: NLA Poulan Jonsered parts 415 425 445 475 505 2077 2083
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 07, 2015, 12:29:02 pm
Hi I'm looking for a clutch cover for my jonsered 2083. Is there a husky or other available part that will fit?
Thanks will


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You can cut and make a husky 272 268 etc fit.  In thread here where I did one and Roger.

2077 2083 415 425 445 505 475 all fit yours.

Came across better pics.

Using 272 268 266 61 66 etc  for make do covers.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Clinton268272xp/clinton268272xp005.jpg)
(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=46.0;attach=1517;image)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/415/475425001-1.jpg)


Title: Re: NLA Poulan Jonsered parts 415 425 445 475 505 2077 2083
Post by: Billyhilly1 on April 07, 2015, 02:17:20 pm

Hi I'm looking for a clutch cover for my jonsered 2083. Is there a husky or other available part that will fit?
Thanks will


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You can cut and make a husky 272 268 etc fit.  In thread here where I did one and Roger.

2077 2083 415 425 445 505 475 all fit yours.

Came across better pics.

Using 272 268 266 61 66 etc  for make do covers.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Clinton268272xp/clinton268272xp005.jpg)
(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=46.0;attach=1517;image)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/415/475425001-1.jpg)
Great pics thanks! Now to get one and make it fit!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: NLA Poulan Jonsered parts 415 425 445 475 505 2077 2083
Post by: Eccentric on April 07, 2015, 09:14:00 pm
Hi I'm looking for a clutch cover for my jonsered 2083. Is there a husky or other available part that will fit?
Thanks will


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You can cut and make a husky 272 268 etc fit.  In thread here where I did one and Roger.

2077 2083 415 425 445 505 475 all fit yours.

Came across better pics.

Using 272 268 266 61 66 etc  for make do covers.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Clinton268272xp/clinton268272xp005.jpg)
(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=46.0;attach=1517;image)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/415/475425001-1.jpg)

Kevin do you still have the chainbrake lever and other chainbrake parts from that Husky clutch cover that you modified here?  I could sure use them....
Title: Re: NLA Poulan Jonsered parts 415 425 445 475 505 2077 2083
Post by: Cut4fun on April 08, 2015, 12:14:55 pm

Kevin do you still have the chainbrake lever and other chainbrake parts from that Husky clutch cover that you modified here?  I could sure use them....

Gave all the parts to Mitch mweba.  He had helped me out on hard to find parts in past for other folks saws I have worked on.  So I donated to his stash. Might try contacting him.
Title: Re: NLA Poulan Jonsered parts 415 425 445 475 505 2077 2083
Post by: Eccentric on April 08, 2015, 08:20:28 pm

Kevin do you still have the chainbrake lever and other chainbrake parts from that Husky clutch cover that you modified here?  I could sure use them....

Gave all the parts to Mitch mweba.  He had helped me out on hard to find parts in past for other folks saws I have worked on.  So I donated to his stash. Might try contacting him.

I'll contact Mitch.  He's a good guy.  Haven't talked to him in a while.....
Title: Re: NLA Poulan Jonsered parts 415 425 445 475 505 2077 2083
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 11, 2015, 04:16:19 pm
When I get that bare 475 crankcase I will try out the newer oiler wing gear on it.

Good let me know how that works.

I received the 475 crankcase today. Was suppose to be a good crankcase assembly.
Took me all of 1 second to see the big end bearing was out and could move up down. 

But I do think the idea will work after test fitting them today Roger.
Title: Re: NLA Poulan Jonsered parts 415 425 445 475 505 2077 2083
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 11, 2015, 10:10:10 pm
Ok Kevin thanks.
Title: Re: NLA Poulan Jonsered parts 415 425 445 475 505 2077 2083
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 13, 2015, 03:56:31 pm
Did somebody say clutch covers.
I was taking a pic of other parts in the micro series and just happen to have 1 of my bins of this series of stuff laid out looking for my oiler parts to test fit.
Title: Re: NLA Poulan Jonsered parts 415 425 445 475 505 2077 2083
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 13, 2015, 02:03:59 pm
6 base gaskets http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jonsered-2077-2083-Poulan-Pro-PP475-505-Chainsaw-NOS-Cylinder-Base-Gasket-/301682732740?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item463db12ec4

When you could get them from Ordertee 503428601 GASKET-CYLIND USD 3.58  plus 7-8 shipping.  NLA This product is not available in the requested quantity. 1 of the items will be backordered.
Title: Re: NLA Poulan Jonsered parts 415 425 445 475 505 2077 2083
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 26, 2015, 10:18:00 am
After posting above I checked my stock of base gaskets. Being I am back to using gaskets on builds I only had 2 left.

I waited till above ended to let you folks buy any if needed. After it ended and relisted I made a offer for all listed and have 6 more to set back (when they get here).   Least we will know where they are at, like the NLA 335 etc air filters buy in the past.  8)
Title: Re: NLA Poulan Jonsered parts 415 425 445 475 505 2077 2083
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 21, 2016, 01:32:54 pm
I notice folks always looking for these. The right side handle to cylinder AV anti vibe. They come in rubber early and coil spring later. 

Still can be bought if you just look. ;)  This info below came from Ordertree.com

501269702 standard rubber  $7.51

504125014 heavy duty rubber  $27.97

503514802 spring isolator   $10.49