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Title: Recommend a bar/chain for my Echo cs-6700
Post by: Tony G on June 23, 2015, 12:41:37 pm
Hey all, this is such a great site! First post but I look forward to spending time in this community as i get into fixing up old saws.

I have recently inherited an Echo cs-6700 in really good shape, it runs pretty darn good but cuts like pig. Upon further inspection the chain is totally shot, as it has been filed poorly many, many times. Looking closer I noticed the bar and chain on this saw is not stock, its an 18" oregon H009 mount, 3/8" 0.058". I think this saw originally came with 3/8" 0.05". I'd like to put the right bar mount back on as this one is pretty sloppy. Can you folks give me some input? What size would be appropriate for this guy? It looks like in the manual it came with a 16", yet I've seen some with 24"? I'll mostly be using it as a firewood saw (95% poplar). Input on chain would be great. I'm thinking of finding some semi-chisel for this saw.

I talked to a local saw shop and they didn't have anything in D176 mount, and said it would be a special order item, $150 + which is crazy. Any good online sources for parts? Bonus points if it's in Canada, as our dollar is so terrible right against the greenback.
Title: Re: Recommend a bar/chain for my Echo cs-6700
Post by: RoyM on June 23, 2015, 01:12:43 pm
Welcome aboard. This a good place for a saw gear head. That price is not out of line for an Oregon Power match bar, chain and shipping here in the great white north. As you point out we are getting hammered by the low dollar. The 208SLHD176 20" laminated bar would be a good choice and somewhat cheaper. You can try SmallEngines.ca
Title: Re: Recommend a bar/chain for my Echo cs-6700
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 23, 2015, 01:17:10 pm
I would say the 67cc would be real happy with up to a 20" in hardwoods. Maybe even 24" with a full skip chain IF cutting softwood.

D176 mount.  3/8 050 or 058 depending on what is popular for your area. I like 050.

Check out for bars and chains from this member in Ohio http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/used-chainsaw-parts-online/performance-outdoor-equipment-dolmar-parts/

I bought Laser laminated d176 20" bars from Cutters Choice website.

I put a 24" on this one for pic I bought from member Jon.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Projects/echobars%20008_zps0erweltr.jpg)

Title: Re: Recommend a bar/chain for my Echo cs-6700
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 23, 2015, 01:21:10 pm
echo 6700 parts catalog IPL http://www.echo-usa.com/getattachment/47e2ae9d-84b5-44f0-92e1-0b1fadc8323f

Bar and chain options when sold new. Oregon 72=050 LG chain and bars 16" 18" 20" 24" 27"

BAR AND CHAIN OPTIONS
160386001
16" POWER MATCH BAR
200387001
20" POWER MATCH BAR
240388101
24" POWER MATCH BAR
270389301
27" POWER MATCH BAR
727060
3/8 72LG-60G CHAIN
727070
3/8 72LG-70G CHAIN
727081
3/8 72LG-81G CHAIN
727093
3/8 72LG-93G CHAIN
Title: Re: Recommend a bar/chain for my Echo cs-6700
Post by: Cut4fun on June 23, 2015, 01:28:51 pm
read on the 6700 http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/echo/echo-670/

might be something in there on the simple muffler mod I did under the oem deflector. Need to retune carb afterwords.
Title: Re: Recommend a bar/chain for my Echo cs-6700
Post by: Tony G on June 23, 2015, 02:04:34 pm
Thanks guys, that helps a lot!

Is that laminated bar you recommended the same as the Oregon Pro-Lite ones? One of the part numbers they gave me looks very similar but was called pro-lite (oregon part no. 180SLHD176). IT was a few bucks cheaper than the Pro-match. Is laser generally a re-brand of Oregon stuff?

Thanks for the link to barrettes small engine website, found a ton of good stuff on there, and IN CANDADA!  :o

I might have talked my local dealer down to $95 on an 18" promatch for this saw (180RNDD176), I'm not sure I can beat that price.

Any chain suggestions? All the shops around here like to push their no-name bulk chain they make themselves saying it outperforms brand name chain at half the cost etc. etc. Would like to stay away from safety chain like the vanguard if possible.
Title: Re: Recommend a bar/chain for my Echo cs-6700
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 23, 2015, 02:28:32 pm
20" Oregon laminated bar with LPX chain $52 shipped.   http://www.ebay.com/itm/20-Oregon-200PXDD176-bar-72LPX070G-chain-fits-Echo-CS-590-620P-600P-670-680-/121666818083?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c53e85023#shpCntId

Guy is top notch seller have bought from him.  He also has a website selling chain and bars etc. http://www.frawleyssawshop.com/

18" http://www.ebay.com/itm/18-Oregon-180PXDD176-bar-chain-fits-Echo-CS-590-610-660-600P-670-680-8000-saw-/121671998874?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c54375d9a
Title: Re: Recommend a bar/chain for my Echo cs-6700
Post by: RoyM on June 23, 2015, 06:16:23 pm
The first two digits are the length, the third indicates the gauge. Your saw will easily handle the 20" which is the longest available in laminated (Prolite). Go with the length you are comfortable with.
I am not a fan of Laser bars and chain, the quality seems inconsistent. Pay a bit more for Stihl or Oregon, you won't regret it.
Title: Re: Recommend a bar/chain for my Echo cs-6700
Post by: Hoggwood on June 24, 2015, 04:07:12 am
Try looking around on customchainsawparts.  There is a good selection of fairly priced bars.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/BAR-CHAIN-20-3-8-050-FOR-MCCULLOCH-POULAN-ECHO-CRAFTSMAN-CHAINSAWS-/231457938293

Cory
Title: Re: Recommend a bar/chain for my Echo cs-6700
Post by: Tony G on June 24, 2015, 12:19:41 pm
Thanks for the links everyone. I was able to leverage my local store down to a reasonable price on an 18" powermatch bar. This way I don't have to deal with shipping or exchange rate. Now just need to settle on chain. I'd like to stay away from the safety chains, and a lot of the firewood I cut is dirty dead-fall so I'm thinking semi-chisel is my best bet. I found a nice semi-chisel by oregon (DPX) so I think I will order that to try. My Stihl dealer tells me they won't sell any chain other than the green stuff, so much for trying out Stihl RM. Do I have to order the chain based on the exact drive link count specified by the bar (in this case 66)?
Title: Re: Recommend a bar/chain for my Echo cs-6700
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 24, 2015, 01:16:10 pm
Do I have to order the chain based on the exact drive link count specified by the bar (in this case 66)?

Yes and make sure same gage and pitch as bar. If bar 050 you want 050 chain. If 058 get 058. 3/8 etc.
Title: Re: Recommend a bar/chain for my Echo cs-6700
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 24, 2015, 02:18:44 pm
DPX in 058 66dl  $15.49 and ship  http://www.loggerchain.com/73DPX066G-Oregon-18-chain-3-8-Pitch-058-Gauge-66-DL-73DPX066G.htm

DPX in 050 66dl  $15.19 " " " http://www.loggerchain.com/72DPX066G-Oregon-18-saw-chain-3-8-375-66-DL-050-semi-chisel-72DPX066G.htm
Title: Re: Recommend a bar/chain for my Echo cs-6700
Post by: RoyM on June 24, 2015, 06:53:02 pm
Obviously your Stihl guy only deals with consumers, no pro users. Is there a full dealer in your area that knows chain?
Title: Re: Recommend a bar/chain for my Echo cs-6700
Post by: Tony G on June 24, 2015, 07:08:14 pm
Yea that's my guess too Roy. We have one other lawn and garden shop around here and when I gave them an oregon chain part number they said "oh that crosses with our part no. xxxxxx". To which I said no, I'd like the actual oregon product please, and he said "We're an Oregon dealer, but we bring in locally made chain in bulk at a fraction of the cost and its waaay better than anything made by oregon or stihl, or whatever came on your Echo". I just chuckled and walked out. I bet Oregon wouldn't appreciate knowing their distributors are pushing house brands over their own.

With customer service like that I would rather give my business to an online vendor anyways!
Title: Re: Recommend a bar/chain for my Echo cs-6700
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 24, 2015, 08:28:06 pm
Oregon owns Windsor now days, which may be what chain he is talking about in bulk?

Blount owns Oregon and the rest fall under Blount now?  http://www.oregonproducts.com/homeowner/company/history.htm
Title: Re: Recommend a bar/chain for my Echo cs-6700
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 26, 2015, 01:25:52 pm
You wouldnt believe what was traded into me yesterday for several chain resharpens.  New 20" 70DL 3/8 050 D176 Oregan laminated bar.  Safety type chain though.  Guy did some horse trading for it and turned out it didnt even fit his D009 mount saws after he got home. So I took it in from him for my labor, as I can always use or pass them on.

Just looked not a pro lite and the dreaded 72SL safety chain for sure, looks like semi chisel too.

Title: Re: Recommend a bar/chain for my Echo cs-6700
Post by: Tony G on June 26, 2015, 02:49:12 pm
turned out it didnt even fit his D009 mount saws after he got home.



Typical hey, too bad him and I didn't cross paths, the bar that came on this echo was a H009 mount. We could have traded and both ended up with the right one! I just got the call from the dealer, my powermatch came in today! Thanks for all the tips. Ordered some DPX semi-chisel yellow chain from Frawleys, should be here soon too.