Chainsaw Repair
Husqvarna - Stihl - Poulan - Jonsered - Dolmar chainsaws and more => Poulan => Topic started by: Cut4fun on October 22, 2011, 05:25:52 pm
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I had to buy 2 poulans to get the 1 I wanted. The one poulan has a 3400 recoil and I can see piston damage through plug hole and mainly bought for parts.
The 2nd one is the one I wanted. Is it a 3300 3000 3500? All I can find on it is a sticker with 1991 and type III. Part of the word Timber+++++ on bar cover. Nothing on the recoil but poulan, which I found odd.
The yellow recoil is exact copy of the broken green recoil on it. I was able to do a quick trouble shoot and look over and fired it up on 3rd pull after dumping some very old stinking mix.
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I'm going to scratch the 3500 off this list. The air filter cover is like one on a 3000 and a 305 I had. So now maybe 3000 or 3300.
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Just saving Poulan 3300 IPL here http://www.klippo.com/ddoc/POUI/POUI2000_USen/POUI2000_USen__530066768.pdf
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Poulan 3000 IPL http://www.odref.com/poulan/pdf/poulan/gas-saws/3000.pdf
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My bet is that it is a 3300. Lots of them were listed as Timbermaster or something as well.
Definatly not a 3500 as like you said it has the narrow covers but it also has the narrow opening in the front of the case for the narrow muffler as well.
Here are a couple pictures of my nice 3300. $60 at a flea market. ;D There nice runners and fine handleing.
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Thanks Mark for your pics and decals confirm it for me. Your first pic with tag is same as mine type III and 530 number. I'm with you on it being a 3300. ;D
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Went out and double checked everything before making some test cuts.
Only thing that was wrong with the recoil was the tabs that stick up on the pawls were broke off and therefore wouldnt catch the metal ???? on the recoil pulley. So I went to pull the 2 out of the 365 recoil and found only 1 of them was good. So time to order some pawls 530027162 .
The carb nuts had backed off 1/16 to 1/8" and carb was lose and muffler bolts loose. Otherwise very sound. Put 3300 recoil on popped 1st pull and started next pull. Checked oiler and was good. Put 20" b+c that come with it and test cuts. Good to go.
Now the kicker was I had to buy the 3400 to get the 3300 I was wanting for $20 for both ;D and 45mins round trip. Thinking it was a 3000 , 3300 or ?? I would have gave $20 for the one I wanted (heck the like new oregon bar and crap safety chain was worth more then that to me), let alone get a 3400 parts saw to boot.
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Those pawls are cheap. I got a few extras when I made a order some time ago. Still have not needed any yet though. :D
I plan on someday giving that 3300 a dual port muffler job like I did the PP335. I bet it will be a worth while mod for it.
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OK I sent the 3300 out to be tested for a weekend of cutting. After going through it I came to a conclusion.
I used to own a poulan pro 305 and 335.
To me it looks like the yellow 335 is the same as the green 3300. I havent had a green 3000 yet, but betting it is the same as the yellow 305. Is this what you have came up with too?
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No the 3300 is a plain bore while the 335 is plated.
The 3000 was a plated bore also.
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No the 3300 is a plain bore while the 335 is plated.
The 3000 was a plated bore also.
So does the 3300 have plated piston then?
If you happen to have a extra boot for a 365 3300 300 305 335 etc etc it would be much appreciated. I got stupid yesterday in haste and tore the boot putting the 365 back together.
Updated list of boots that will work.
2700 Gas Saw
2800 Gas Saw
3000 Gas Saw
3000CB Gas Saw
3100 Gas Saw
3300 Gas Saw
3350 Gas Saw
3500 Gas Saw
3600 Gas Saw
PP285 Gas Saw
PP305 Gas Saw
PP335 Gas Saw
PP335 Predator Gas Saw
PP336 Gas Saw
PP336C Gas Saw
PP365 Gas Saw
PP365C Gas Saw
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Hello all, first time post along with first time chainsaw owner. I have a poulan 20" chainsaw I am not sure of the model I have due to the fact that the sticker on the clutch cover has been removed. It looks like the same exact model that mark posted pictures of. Right down to the sticker on the rear handle. The seriel number is the same as well. Except mine has a 97 instead of a 96 I am assuming that the 97 is the manufacturer year. Like mark's it was also made and distributed by wci in Shreveport. I will try and post pics to confirm the model number. Would it be safe to assume that I own a 3300? It also has Type iii. Is there a reason for the type 3? I just purchesed a new chain for it and it seems to do a good job. Is it a decent chainsaw? I am cutting falled trees for firewood mostly hardwood any recommendations or guidance in the matter of cutting the wood will be greatly appreciated. Also it has a tendency to bogging down and shutting off after cutting three or four 12" logs but usually starts right back up after two or three pulls. It happens when I give it full throttle any ideas of what would cause this?
William
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Welcome to Chainsaw Repair
Poulan used those Type designations to note production updates to an existing design,
Sounds as though your mixture is a little lean?
It is a decent saw for its size.
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Thank you for the timely response an the info
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Dad dropped off his poulan 3300 he had bought new for me to go through. Seems the upper left mount had give up and maybe a lower or 2.
Cant really tell what all with quick look see. Wont start either, so thinking impulse tore etc from the av given up.
Notice it didnt have the dawg and he said he dont remember it coming with one when he bought it.
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Just looking up when they were being sold and how much retail.
3300 2001 $260.00
Engine Make: Poulan
Engine Size Cubic Centimeters: 54
Engine Size Cubic Inches: 3.3
Dry Weight: 11.6
Bar Oiler Type: Automatic
Bar Length: 20
3300 2000 $260.00
Engine Make: Poulan
Engine Size Cubic Centimeters: 54
Engine Size Cubic Inches: 3.3
Dry Weight: 11.6
Bar Oiler Type: Automatic
Bar Length: 20
3300 1999 $260.00
Engine Make: Poulan
Engine Size Cubic Centimeters: 54
Engine Size Cubic Inches: 3.3
Dry Weight: 11.6
Bar Oiler Type: Automatic
Bar Length: 20
3300 1998 $290.00
Engine Make: Poulan
Engine Size Cubic Centimeters: 54
Engine Size Cubic Inches: 3.3
Dry Weight: 10.2
Bar Oiler Type: Automatic
Bar Length: 18-20
3300 1997 $290.00
Engine Make: Poulan
Engine Size Cubic Centimeters: 54
Engine Size Cubic Inches: 3.3
Dry Weight: 10.2
Bar Oiler Type: Automatic
Bar Length: 18-20
3300 1996 $290.00
Engine Make: Poulan
Engine Size Cubic Centimeters: 54
Engine Size Cubic Inches: 3.3
Dry Weight: 10.2
Bar Oiler Type: Automatic
Bar Length: 18-20
3300 1994 $289.00
Engine Make: Poulan
Engine Size Cubic Centimeters: 54
Engine Size Cubic Inches: 3.3
Dry Weight: 11.6
Bar Oiler Type: Automatic
Bar Length: 18
3300 1992 $340.00
Engine Make: Poulan
Engine Size Cubic Centimeters: 54
Engine Size Cubic Inches: 3.3
Dry Weight: 11.6
Bar Oiler Type: Automatic
Bar Length: 16
3300 1991 $340.00
Engine Make: Poulan
Engine Size Cubic Centimeters: 54
Engine Size Cubic Inches: 3.3
Dry Weight: 11.6
Bar Oiler Type: Automatic
Bar Length: 16
3300 1990 $330.00
Engine Make: Poulan
Engine Size Cubic Centimeters: 54
Engine Size Cubic Inches: 3.3
Dry Weight: 11.6
Bar Oiler Type: Automatic
Bar Length: 16
3300 1989 $330.00
Engine Make: Poulan
Engine Size Cubic Centimeters: 54
Engine Size Cubic Inches: 3.3
Dry Weight: 11.6
Bar Oiler Type: Automatic
Bar Length: 16
3300 1988 $330.00
Engine Make: Poulan
Engine Size Cubic Centimeters: 54
Engine Size Cubic Inches: 3.3
Dry Weight: 14.5
Bar Oiler Type: Automatic
Bar Length: 18
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I gave dad his pick of the grey 3.0 49cc or the 3500 60cc to take back and he took the 3.0 that is like his 3300 just smaller cc. That way I have time to order and go through everything right for him.
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Just saving.
530027394 Cylindrical Mount
530042080 ISOLATOR rights
530027393 ISOLATOR front left
530015715 SCREW-10-24X3
530027393 left front av Type I
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Type 1 3300
grrrrrrrr had to go look for Type 1 or 2 while checking part list. While out there I thought hmmmm better look at that intake boot. Yep sure enough ripped right where it goes on cylinder behind clamp.
530027218 Carburetor Adaptor aka intake boot
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From what I can tell 530027394 top left rubber AV mount was only used in these below.
2700 Gas Saw
2800 Gas Saw
3000 Gas Saw
3100 Gas Saw
3300 Gas Saw
PP285 Gas Saw, 285 Gas Saw
PP305 Gas Saw, 305 Gas Saw
PP335 Gas Saw, 335 Gas Saw
PP335 Predator Gas Saw, 335 Predator Gas Saw
Craftsman saws of same models too
2.8
3.0
3.3
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Some of the best firewood saws ever made are on that list!
Mike
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I'll second that!!!!!!!!
Shep
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My favorite on that list would be the 335.
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;D
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335 for me too.
Now if we could only find a NOS supply of thin rings. Then we wouldnt need to use the 3450 330 pistons for replacements in future.
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3300 all tore down today, p+c still look great. 8)
Ordered all 4 AV from Jack's. Ordertree or Jack's are my choices on poulan parts.
Had a intake boot on hand for him since new is NLA. Lucky because I am not finding any used for my replacement stash.
NOTE: Yellow oregon fuel line still in great shape after (guessing 10 years of use) used as impulse line. Going to use the 5mm 3mm aftermarket echo fuel line this time to see how it will do after years of use. Will be saw #2 with the new to me line. I also have 6mm 3mm but the 5mm seems to fit the hole area better.
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Guys I know some preach NOT to use the yellow tygon or oregon lines for impulse line at all.
I am just showing it can be used when it is all you have on hand. I use it on my own saws too when that is what I have to use for impulse.
The one in this pic is I am guessing 10 years of use by my dad down on the land. The impulse line didnt fail, the av's and intake boot did.
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10 years with tygon tubing on the impulse. That is interesting.
I figured the heat would have got to it by then and it would have come off on the cylinder end.
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Finally a down day for me and it sure feels nice being able to give alittle back to dad.
Buttoned up the saw with all new av's, intake boot, impulse line etc.
Just used a b+c that came in trade for test an tune.
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Back about five years ago I could have used that starter handle on my 3500.
I do OK now days after taking that Glucosamine
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Just trying to learn wife's camera.
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Just read this. = Weighed with a Rapalla digital fishing scale:
My Poulan 3300 54cc w/20" weighed 16lb 1oz Full of fuel & oil. Two pounds lighter than a MS290 56cc w/18". Also fuel & oil topped up.
Me, I know my dad bought his 3300 new back in 89 or so with 20". I gave him a like brand new MS290 and he gave it back to me a few months later. Preferred his 3300.
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Looking at the saw on the right and bottom I am guessing 3300. Seller dont know but swears it isnt a 3300 but though 3600. I am still going with 3300 till I can see in person.
Anybody else see anything to identify this 54cc, Other one I was told 3750 but could see 3450 right off in pic.
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I would have to look at my saws again. The difference in the air filter, fly wheel, and the cylinder top makes me want to look.
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Got all the old saws loaded up from dads barn.
He said the poulan 3300 was bought new in 1993. Not 89 like I had thought.
Also the poulan 2000 I had gave him and I had bought new back in 1994.
Mini mac top handle he thinks bought new 1979.
Plus the easy start 180 that replaced the 2000 that replaced the mini mac. 180 was acting wonking he said and now wont fire.
Leaving him the cub cadet 5020 aka efco 152 with decomp to replace the 3300.
Just going to clean up the barn grime and shelf them for now.
Will try to do a before after cleaning pics. Not much just going to try that wd40 stuff on them.
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The 3 aint going back. 3300 2000 minimac. They are mine now.
He is sticking with easy start 180 I gave him and the decomp 152 I am giving him. He has got up there in the age that it is hard to pull them over now. Age 79 and battle with cancer last year has taken their toll.
Enjoyed setting a new deer stand with him and dragging my dang deer out.
Bet I take some saws and clear that logging road out next year. That way can take the 6x6 or atv back to the deer.
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Dads saws back with me. Left the yellow 152 to replace the 3300 he bought new in 93. The 2000 I bought in 94 replaced the minimac he bought in 79. The 180 easy start replaced those 2.
But the 180 he said started acting wonky. When I was down there it wouldnt even fire off.
Between processing a deer today I took a quick look. IMO just time for a carb. Will run long as I squirt mix in it. I wont waste time rebuilding as these are to cheap new.
The other 3 are just getting cleaned someday and going on the shelf.
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Folks needing some poulan top ends for these on CRG. I checked my stash today. All the piston and cylinders look good from just looking in.
I remember 54cc is 46.5mm and 60cc was 49mm. Bt for life of me cant recall 46cc 49cc bore mm. Guess I need to look it up.
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Pulled one on left. Bare bore and has 54cc on tank but a 3.0. My digital calibers are messing with me in the cold. Thinking 44mm or 44.3mm but any how 49cc bare bore 3.0 pulled. Chrome piston
Hoping for a 3.3 too. Next up other grey
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Anyone recall the max rpm on the 3300 3.3 bare bores? I am guessing 12K to 12.5K
Guy I sent a topend to for a rebuild is asking and I cant remember where I end up on these.
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I have never owned one.
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Poulan doesn't say what max rpm is in the service manual or owners manual.
Initial adjustment of high- and lowspeed mixture needles is one turn open
from a lightly seated position. Make final adjustment with engine running
at operating temperature. Adjust low- speed mixture needle so engine will accelerate without hesitation.
Adjust high-speed mixture needle to obtain optimum full throttle
performance under cutting load. Do not operate saw with high speed mixture
setting too lean (needle turned too far clockwise as engine damage could result
from lack of lubrication and overheating.
Adjust idle speed screw so engine idles just below clutch engagement speed.
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He showed me video of it running with top I sent and 12-12.5 seemed perfect
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Finally put dads bought new poulan 3300 (maybe 93) and bought new TH mac (maybe 79-81) on the bench yesterday. Going to clean them up. Make sure running order and shelf them because they were dads.
The little poulan 2000 I gave him that I bought in 94 is already cleaned back up and being used pruning again this year. It had replaced that mac TH I despised using.
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Dads poulan 3300 54cc he bought new in 1993 is cleaned up and ready for the shelf. Just purrs like a kitten idling forever and turns into a mad hornet.
Will just get it down from time to time to use and keep it going.
Made me smile and feel good about it.
Now to finish that little mac TH 130 I hated with a passion. Bought new in 79-81
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Dads 3300 on a tear down I did for him many years ago. av's, intake boot, lines, etc. Normal up keep over the years. Topend always looked great.
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Just going to save this here. Dad = That thing looks great. You would not believe the hours we spent out here together cutting trees. I'm glad you have it.
Thanks for cleaning her up.
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3300 saw I bought just for the parts mainly. Nice 335 recoil cover was on it and nice p+c. Just pulled it down to see what all it needed. Now prob just set on shelf being I got plenty of 54cc runners.
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I wasn’t going to redo this 54cc 3300. Supposed to be running parts saw I bought in pieces with yellow 335 recoil. Just wanted it for the parts for my dads bought new 3300 .
Found few more recoils and those nla pulleys too. 330 3450 380 3750 and 365 3500
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3 pulls fired on choke. Now to put a bar chain and test. Type3 later has some things different then dads Type1 that made me pull tank back off for a redo. 😒😋😂
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Got surprise. I put 16” 325 but someone had put a 3/8 rim. So 16” 3/8 k041 bar it is.
So far running cutting great.
Even though I won’t leave 3/8 set up on it.
Some more parts for guys asking.
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The poulan 3300 I am getting to throw up on the shelf for parts.
Dont recall any of my 3300's ever having recoil decal with 3300 on it.
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Guy needed a coil for his poulan. Told him I would pull one from a running 3300 I had. Showed him video of it running on CRG and then pulling from saw.
That way we both know 100% working coil sent.
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This is why I pull known good coils from running saws. Pulled one from parts saw and was no good. So onto to another one and good to go.
Would just fire off sometimes. Tested old school and new tester both show no good.
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One from the 2800 was good.
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Poulan 3300 type 2 54cc with a 46cc 2800 recoil cover.
Need to find me some more 16” K041 325 050 66dl bars or make me some more from K095 bars. My last NOS bar.
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2 more 54cc heading out to a new owner. Spikes zip tied to hand guards.
Gave him a choice of the 3 nicest C 3.3 ones for one of those. Plus the 2 20" bars with craftsman on them in 325. I like using 16" 325. Only locals ever want the 20" bars.
What I been using for awhile now as packing. Water bottles. Way of reusing them and protection.
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Yesterday comparing poulan partner clutch covers for Al. I noticed the lines were harden tygon still and impulse was only thing echo.
I’ll have to look back and see how long it has been since I last done dads old saw. Bought new in 1994 poulan 3300. Fuel lines, tank vent line and impulse lines.
So long ago I wasn’t using echo oem line for fuel and tank vents then. 3x5
But had on impulse. 3X6
Redid all lines with echo oem black lines in 3x5 and impulse 3x6.
I’ve never seen the plastic green discoloring like that before on recoil. Bob = That was about the time we had to start using cadmium free plastics. It didn’t hold the color well at all. After a couple years they got the technology under control.
Still has my plug I loved back in the day. German made Bosch
Dad was dead on date he said bought in 94.
Saw build date
2014 = 10 years ago when I put intake boot and av's, lines and buffer etc in it last time. Now with these echo lines should last forever imo. Wish I could recall if did a carb kit. I know dad cant get efree back then or now.
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Pics so others know how etc from yesterday.