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Title: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on January 12, 2016, 01:44:42 pm
So should we do another chain build in 3/8 325 etc?   

I took spring break off if I aint fishing I could run some more.  1st week of March.

(http://www.fisheadtackle.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/missed-1-5x4.gif)



Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on January 12, 2016, 07:43:04 pm
Sure. Pick a dl count and size.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 12, 2016, 08:44:06 pm
Sure I am game.  I want to try something new on another chain.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on January 12, 2016, 10:23:55 pm
Cut. That was awesome.
And as for another race. I think .325 in a run what u brung class. No work or race, just put them in the wood let"em eat and let the times sort out the rest.
Cut. Can I please have a 3rd place badge. Please. Pretty please.  ;D

Im going to do ROUND my way next.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on January 12, 2016, 10:30:49 pm
OMG, that was awesome. How much r cants? Ill send some money soon.
Can't right now someone stole my numbers on my card and wife's. So I have to get new account numbers and all that mess.
Not to say anything but I called 3rd.
Reason I don't do square, cause if your not really really really good, its slow as chit, a medium round will b faster then a decent square , just a opinion. Not trying to ruffle feathers.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on January 12, 2016, 11:47:54 pm
I'll do another.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on January 13, 2016, 09:01:24 am
I am game ............. but i aint got no 325
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 13, 2016, 11:00:00 am
I vote for 3/8ths .050.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on January 13, 2016, 12:52:03 pm
105 Dl 3/8" .050"?:D
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 13, 2016, 01:02:32 pm
That week I took off is not going to be open for me after talking with family = plans.  Son off from college too for spring break. So lets look down the road a bit. If we do this.

Unless someone else wants to test and do this?

Also I was hoping 325 050 66DL myself.
Been in 3/8 ones  already in different classes of builds.  But 3/8 can be done again.

My reason and thinking most of us have not done up 325. I havent done one but have had one good one before given to me.  Friend did it  and it was 50% faster square using stihl RS chain to make RSL, compared to a RM3 chain that was on a 290.
Randy said on a 261 stock, RS 325 to RSL square was 38% faster for him.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 13, 2016, 01:07:22 pm
I want to test some 325 for chits anyways for myself. 

I like stihl 325 RS. But I have this older not made for awhile oregon 325 LG too (no bumpers ) like the oregon 325 replacement that replaced it. Cutter smaller then stihls.  I been making and using myself and putting on friends 353. He loves the stuff for firewood.
Traded some off to Jack for his uses too.

Whatever replaced it was advertised back when it came out to being 15%to20% faster in the cut. What was it oregon 20LPX?

Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 13, 2016, 01:11:27 pm
OMG, that was awesome. How much r cants? Ill send some money soon.
Can't right now someone stole my numbers on my card and wife's. So I have to get new account numbers and all that mess.
Not to say anything but I called 3rd.
Reason I don't do square, cause if your not really really really good, its slow as chit, a medium round will b faster then a decent square , just a opinion. Not trying to ruffle feathers.

Were good on $$ for last cant purchase. Thanks for the offer. 

Maybe if we need more, bigger or different wood types down the road.

Lets see how it plays out.  Right now March no go for me.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on January 13, 2016, 01:12:14 pm
Or round filed race?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on January 13, 2016, 01:13:14 pm
I can do a .325.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on January 13, 2016, 01:22:03 pm
Awesome. .325 I like it to on 50cc plus saws. It came stock on my 450 echo. The lp is faster on that saw.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on January 13, 2016, 01:31:53 pm


I want to test some 325 for chits anyways for myself. 

I like stihl 325 RS. But I have this older not made for awhile oregon 325 LG too (no bumpers ) like the oregon 325 replacement that replaced it. Cutter smaller then stihls.  I been making and using myself and putting on friends 353. He loves the stuff for firewood.
Traded some off to Jack for his uses too.

Whatever replaced it was advertised back when it came out to being 15%to20% faster in the cut. What was it oregon 20LPX?


The only claims that I'm aware of on the 20lpx is less vibes. I like what I've ran of it.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on January 13, 2016, 01:34:08 pm


Cut. That was awesome.
And as for another race. I think .325 in a run what u brung class. No work or race, just put them in the wood let"em eat and let the times sort out the rest.
Cut. Can I please have a 3rd place badge. Please. Pretty please.  ;D

Im going to do ROUND my way next.


Hate to break it to you....  but you came in 5th.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on January 13, 2016, 01:42:57 pm
.325" would be different. I do have a bar that takes that dl I think.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 13, 2016, 02:27:42 pm


I want to test some 325 for chits anyways for myself. 

I like stihl 325 RS. But I have this older not made for awhile oregon 325 LG too (no bumpers ) like the oregon 325 replacement that replaced it. Cutter smaller then stihls.  I been making and using myself and putting on friends 353. He loves the stuff for firewood.
Traded some off to Jack for his uses too.

Whatever replaced it was advertised back when it came out to being 15%to20% faster in the cut. What was it oregon 20LPX?


The only claims that I'm aware of on the 20lpx is less vibes. I like what I've ran of it.

Found it in my old oregon 33LG thread here. 8% bucking, 18% boring   http://www.oregonproducts.com/pdf/chain/20lp_flyer.pdf

Super Oregon 20 Series
20LP, 21LP, 22LP
.325”-pitch pro chain
20LP makes fast bias cuts
• 6% faster than it’s
predecessor, 33LG
20LP makes faster bucking cuts
8% faster than 33LG
20LP makes the fastest boring cuts
• 18% faster than 33LG
Oregon

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP325/33LG003.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP325/33LG001.jpg)
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: jmester on January 13, 2016, 04:55:27 pm
i will do .325. What power head. Mike if you need to borrow a bar let me know I may have what you need. Have .325/.050/66 small mount husky. .325/.050/67 12mm Stihl mount.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on January 13, 2016, 06:33:42 pm
I gotta go scrounge for a 16" bar. Most of my .325 saws are running 18's.
Seems the Deere came with a 16 though.
So we doing round? or square? Or grab bag?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on January 13, 2016, 06:41:17 pm
Square or run what you brung.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on January 13, 2016, 06:46:33 pm
Run what u brung. Im down.
I thought the 026 run with work I got 3rd, thought 3000fps timed it. I could b wrong.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on January 13, 2016, 06:47:51 pm
5th. Still.... :'(
Ill take that to, for my first chain off.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 13, 2016, 07:15:20 pm
Run what u brung. Im down.
I thought the 026 run with work I got 3rd, thought 3000fps timed it. I could b wrong.

Yep that is correct.  I timed Ch74 work chain on the 026 for 3rd place.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on January 13, 2016, 07:15:51 pm
Square or run what you brung.

I may do a round for this one.. But will probably change my mind after running it..
Lol..
I do know one thing though, it's gonna have a fresh edge on it this time!!
You guys don't cut a fella any slack!

Saw choice this go???
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on January 13, 2016, 07:36:21 pm
Run what u brung. Im down.
I thought the 026 run with work I got 3rd, thought 3000fps timed it. I could b wrong.

Yep that is correct.  I timed Ch74 work chain on the 026 for 3rd place.

I was just ribbing him since the stock chains were faster.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 13, 2016, 07:52:03 pm
Run what u brung. Im down.
I thought the 026 run with work I got 3rd, thought 3000fps timed it. I could b wrong.

Yep that is correct.  I timed Ch74 work chain on the 026 for 3rd place.

I was just ribbing him since the stock chains were faster.

Yea I know.  Actually the stock chains kicked all our butts. 
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 13, 2016, 07:52:53 pm
Square or run what you brung.

I may do a round for this one.. But will probably change my mind after running it..
Lol..
I do know one thing though, it's gonna have a fresh edge on it this time!!
You guys don't cut a fella any slack!

Saw choice this go???

No Mercy.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on January 13, 2016, 08:02:13 pm
I know it was faster I was crying in my pellow. Couldn't believe it.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on January 13, 2016, 08:03:06 pm
Concrete, I have my eye on you. Lol.  :o or eye's in that case.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on January 13, 2016, 08:04:16 pm
What if we did a round vs square. Im sure there is equal that might get involved.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on January 13, 2016, 08:08:57 pm
Run what u brung. Im down.
I thought the 026 run with work I got 3rd, thought 3000fps timed it. I could b wrong.

Yep that is correct.  I timed Ch74 work chain on the 026 for 3rd place.

I was just ribbing him since the stock chains were faster.

Yea I know.  Actually the stock chains kicked all our butts.

I'm thinking that safety kicker had a lot of thought put into it.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on January 13, 2016, 08:11:09 pm
 ???
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on January 13, 2016, 08:14:04 pm
.325 .050 66dl works for me. Are we going to make it chain model specific or whatever is handy?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on January 13, 2016, 08:14:58 pm
If your talking about the bumper links.
I no right that german engineer lost sleep over that design thinking it up. Lol
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on January 13, 2016, 08:18:11 pm
That will work im down. I have a 20 inch loop of skip in .325/50. Would need someone to shorten it for me though.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 13, 2016, 08:29:33 pm
Guys you catch I wont be able to do this on the time off in March right?

Will need to be later if you want me to video and run the saws.

I need to check my bars to see what I can come up with for 325 050 66DL.   Might need to buy a large mount husky.
I am thinking something in 65cc 71cc stock.  Need to check if 66dl will fit with 8 and 9.   
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on January 13, 2016, 08:31:35 pm
Thats awesome cut , it will give me time to think of something so I don't get embarrassed.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 13, 2016, 08:55:33 pm
What if we did a round vs square. Im sure there is equal that might get involved.

Are you kidding the square will kick the round ground's butt.   
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 13, 2016, 09:00:14 pm
I still think we should have race and work classes too. JMO  That way work is work with just front of cutters touched or some guy like ch74 that thinks of a new way to attack that raker without making it race class. Pretty slick.  ;)

I can take my chains after this last build off and still put them back out cutting.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on January 13, 2016, 09:08:56 pm
I will rephrase that statement. I can make a round cut just as fast. Lol
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on January 13, 2016, 09:10:45 pm
Thanks, Cut4
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on January 13, 2016, 09:18:11 pm
Not to sound like a smart ass. But I did kinda see a RD in the top 3 in work class, without some of my other tricks or taking the cutter half way back.  ;D
Cleaned the gullets for chips and free hand the stock angle about 4stokes a tooth. Besides the stock kicked all our butts. Lol. So im not really bragging. Lol
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on January 13, 2016, 09:39:24 pm


Guys you catch I wont be able to do this on the time off in March right?

Will need to be later if you want me to video and run the saws.

I need to check my bars to see what I can come up with for 325 050 66DL.   Might need to buy a large mount husky.
I am thinking something in 65cc 71cc stock.  Need to check if 66dl will fit with 8 and 9.


Do you still have the 70cc poulan?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 13, 2016, 10:37:31 pm


Guys you catch I wont be able to do this on the time off in March right?

Will need to be later if you want me to video and run the saws.

I need to check my bars to see what I can come up with for 325 050 66DL.   Might need to buy a large mount husky.
I am thinking something in 65cc 71cc stock.  Need to check if 66dl will fit with 8 and 9.


Do you still have the 70cc poulan?

Ah yes the 445. 
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 13, 2016, 10:38:49 pm
Thats awesome cut , it will give me time to think of something so I don't get embarrassed.

Too late.    ;D ;D
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on January 13, 2016, 11:46:43 pm
I like those model poulans.
3000. Grrrrr >:(
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: jmester on January 14, 2016, 07:13:04 am
A 9t rim will run a 67DL chain. Have my husky 359 and Stihl 361 set up to run .325 on 16" bars. I will have to check and see if I can get a 66dl to fit the 359.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on January 14, 2016, 08:17:38 am
I bet those saw runn out good with .325 on it
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on January 14, 2016, 08:20:02 am
Hey, CUt4. We could use my 590 echo, for this next chain-off. I have only done a M/M on it, I could send it to u in the future for the running.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on January 14, 2016, 08:30:50 am
So is 16" 325 66 DL?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on January 14, 2016, 08:46:06 am
So is 16" 325 66 DL?
That is what my small husky is.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on January 14, 2016, 09:56:37 am
I have an 18" and 20" 325
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 14, 2016, 12:21:20 pm
I have a 60cc PP365 that is K041 which is small mount like K095 husky (guessing this saw would be like the echo 590). But I was wanting more grunt like my 65cc PP415 has or even the PP445.

Prob should stay with 8T so to keep them 66DL then.   Still need to check my D009 bars.  I dont recall ever having 325 in it.

There might not be no such bar  :o. Need to search 66dl 325 d009.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 14, 2016, 12:39:16 pm
Not coming up with anything in 325 66dl in D009. May have to go to 362xp in small mount K095 66dl.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 14, 2016, 12:40:21 pm
So is 16" 325 66 DL?

Got to pay attention though. I have small husky in 64 66 and thinking 68.  I've tried to go all 66dl in new purchases.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on January 14, 2016, 01:32:50 pm
I just recently got bars under 20" so I'm not well versed in stuff for small saws. I use 16" 60 dl 3/8" or 20" usually.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 14, 2016, 02:58:57 pm
Had to run to get some small boxes from USPS.

Mailed 3 boxes out while there.

Al yours is headed back.
Jason your 12" bar is in box with chains.
Shaun your chains headed to new destination.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on January 14, 2016, 03:46:52 pm
I need to get an envelope out to you Kevin.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Al Smith on January 14, 2016, 05:20:55 pm
Here's what I did ,used two padded envelops .One addressed to Kevin the other addressed back to myself .They weighed one with the chain and applied the amount of stamps then both together to go to Kevin .That way all he had to do is dump it  in the envelope  and  put it in the mailbox .
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 14, 2016, 07:38:39 pm
Here's what I did ,used two padded envelops .One addressed to Kevin the other addressed back to myself .They weighed one with the chain and applied the amount of stamps then both together to go to Kevin .That way all he had to do is dump it  in the envelope  and  put it in the mailbox .

I dropped yours off with the others. It got a tracking # sticker by doing it that way. 
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 14, 2016, 08:21:54 pm
What I have come up with.  ::) :P

I think I will try and find a stihl mount bar in 325 050 67dl and then cut on it alittle at the rear to fit 66dl and bigger gear if go with 9T or not. Guessing right now to stick with 8T.
Use adapters to fit my big poulans with D009 mount.

Crap part is I had some 325 050 16" and gave them away basically.

Anyone have a used but not getting used bar for this project?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: jmester on January 14, 2016, 08:28:28 pm
I think I have what you are looking for. The total superbars Stihl mount .325 .050 67DL bar has a 3/8,.050 60DL body with a .325 pitch. Cut I have both Stihl and husky small mount 16" bars any thing you would like for me to try? I can send you the bar if you need it.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 14, 2016, 08:34:17 pm
I think I have what you are looking for. The total superbars Stihl mount .325 .050 67DL bar has a 3/8,.050 60DL body with a .325 pitch. Cut I have both Stihl and husky small mount 16" bars any thing you would like for me to try? I can send you the bar if you need it.

Total stihl mount bar is T200PV2  67dl 050 325.  I am trying to stay in large mount husky size over the small mount husky.

Just trying to find a cheap bar to cut on. Not something nice like total.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: jmester on January 14, 2016, 08:35:20 pm
(http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh535/jmester/image_18.jpeg) (http://s1250.photobucket.com/user/jmester/media/image_18.jpeg.html)

Has 9mm husky bar adapter in the slot.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: jmester on January 14, 2016, 08:38:13 pm
I was using the total bar as a reference from some of the other post. That it would work to take a 3/8 .050 60dl bar and put a .325 tip on it. Let me know if that Stihl bar will suit what you are looking for.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 14, 2016, 09:09:32 pm
(http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh535/jmester/image_18.jpeg) (http://s1250.photobucket.com/user/jmester/media/image_18.jpeg.html)

Has 9mm husky bar adapter in the slot.

Do you mind me grinding on the tail mount?

Thats what I was thinking too. But use bolt square nuts grinded down or spring rings.  You know rednecked. ;)

Plus I dont know how the poulan bar studs are spaced compared the the husky.  never paid attention to that detail.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: jmester on January 14, 2016, 09:34:58 pm
You can grind on it. Would you like me to send the adapter along?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on January 15, 2016, 08:29:49 am
Anyone have a used but not getting used bar for this project?
Crap, I cant help there, I dont even have any .325 chain

Anyone have 2 loops I can buy from them ?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 15, 2016, 12:26:57 pm
You can grind on it. Would you like me to send the adapter along?

Hold on for a bit and let me check stuff here. 

I remember putting a 24" on one of the poulans last year. Even with right dl count 84 it was a pita on off. Let me look into it with my 3/8 16" windsor bar from my 066. Thinking it was something about the tail mount being back further.

May have to go longer dl count to 68 or ? instead of 66 wanted and 67 like bar.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/415/p3450x3p30p475%20008_zpsnmvkugsa.jpg)

Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 15, 2016, 12:29:07 pm
325 is my slim on stuff too.
I will have to buy loops too. I just hope I have enough LG to make up a loop for stock or if real lucky maybe 2 so can file one.

I want to buy RS one stock one to file, hope have enough LG,  one oregon lpx stock, maybe even a carlton stock.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on January 15, 2016, 03:02:28 pm
I can get the RS local and maybe lpx. No way for Carlton except Nate
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on January 15, 2016, 06:23:29 pm
Thats what my 20'' loop of .325 skip is carlton. It had a weird angle on it stock.
Cut4fun. Nice poulan.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Al Smith on January 15, 2016, 08:47:56 pm
I might have a .325 16" bar other than Stihl mount .I'll see after work tomorrow .O dark thirty now .
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: jmester on January 15, 2016, 11:47:33 pm
Have a small mount husky bar here, that we could grind on the tail as well. Can it be made to fit a large mount husky. Like we did on the 12" bar for the 026. Don't have any large mount huskys anymore.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on January 16, 2016, 08:23:03 am
cut, I have a 18'' that use to go to my echo 450p i wonder if that would work? .325/.50
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 16, 2016, 12:03:06 pm
Let me check my bars. I know I have different mounts in 64 66 68.  Just havent had time.  Back in OT mode since son back to college after new year.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 16, 2016, 12:23:38 pm
OT.  I used to know what that meant.    Some things just seem to slip my mind these days.   
Hey no hurry on this Kevin and I still plan on looking today to see what I have.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 16, 2016, 12:42:40 pm
OT.  I used to know what that meant.    Some things just seem to slip my mind these days.   
Hey no hurry on this Kevin and I still plan on looking today to see what I have.

This is my last full year of work  :o. Got to get it while it is there.    ;D
Had another high year last year and they use our 3 highs for retirement.

2017 I will hopefully retire before the snow starts flying.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on January 16, 2016, 01:40:26 pm
Yep. Got to get the OT when available. I'm ready to go back to work myself. Last year was a little slow.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 16, 2016, 01:55:07 pm
I tell you what pizzes me off.  This health insurance crap. My wife is no longer covered under my plan when I retire now.
WTH that wasnt what I hired in with.    I was looking down the road long term. Now they pull the rug out.

Is this happening everywhere?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 16, 2016, 02:00:23 pm
For the chains being returned. Could you please PM me your return address to put on the box at this username. 

That way I can get a bunch of USPS small priority boxes and start getting them ready to mail back. 

I will let everyone know once they are mailed.


Thanks to all of those that participated in the Chain Build Off.

Kevin

Still need return addresses for

@concretegrazer

@rjames

@ch74

@Skippysphins



Down to needing these 2

@rjames

@ch74

Want to try and get the rest out next week Tues-Fri
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 16, 2016, 02:03:01 pm
Anyone have a used but not getting used bar for this project?
Crap, I cant help there, I dont even have any .325 chain

Anyone have 2 loops I can buy from them ?

If I had it your money would be no good with me.  If I get extra I will let you know.  Plus I will make sure you get the 5/32 325 cutter chain.  :P

Now you want to sell me some of those  single bevel raker files you dont like. ;)
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 16, 2016, 03:05:00 pm
Found a 18" D176 bar in .325 marked Redmax I can use.  I can make that work on D009 with no prob. Pic was next to my 16" stihl bar.

Now to figure out its DL count and see if I want to cut it down shorter or not.  Guessing DL maybe close to 72 right now.

Funny I had got that bar to use back when and it was suppose to be 3/8, but when arrived was 325.  Cool now.



Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on January 16, 2016, 03:28:18 pm
That's good. At least no one will have to buy a bar
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 16, 2016, 03:30:42 pm
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That's good. At least no one will have to buy a bar

Now for some smoked pulled pork and maybe that unicorn beer I am after. Later folks.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 16, 2016, 04:25:30 pm
I tell you what pizzes me off.  This health insurance crap. My wife is no longer covered under my plan when I retire now.
WTH that wasnt what I hired in with.    I was looking down the road long term. Now they pull the rug out.

Is this happening everywhere?

I hear ya.   My wife and I went 2 1/2 years without health insurance of any kind.   I hit 65 and now on Medicare but until then I just paid out of my pocket any time one of us needed to see the doctor.   I checked into several different options like Obama care but it was a joke how much they wanted here in Wyoming.   Their is not a lot out there unless your on welfare then it is all free.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on January 16, 2016, 04:52:10 pm
I hear ya 3000 and Cut4. I tried to get on food stamps  had them for 2mth they took them away and told me i owed them money.,(guess i was to bright)  I'm covered by the V.A i got hurt in iraq in 06 so im covered but the wife and kids are on medicare. Even when i had medical through my company it was 400 and some change a month. I REALLLLLLY hope Trump get in office im tired of paying for someone else's kids, i didnt get to lay pipe why do i have to pay for them. Don't get this country. I'm all about helping people in need, "need beeing the keey word." Or if you have worked your whole life paying in you should get something in return. That obama care is a joke to make people already rich , richer.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 16, 2016, 07:17:21 pm
Going to put the 18" 325 bar on the 65cc tomorrow. Well maybe. Depends on how much I need to do if it is cold cold cold or not.

IF this will fit 8T with 72DL is everyone Ok with 325 050 72dl if it works?  Then I wont have to shorten bar. 
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on January 16, 2016, 07:32:26 pm
72dl will be fine.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 16, 2016, 07:34:56 pm
I went thru my bars today and the only bar that I had that was 16" .325 I had changed the sprocket nose over to 3/8 to use on one of my Poulan 335's.  So no bar here in .325 16".
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 16, 2016, 07:52:15 pm
I went thru my bars today and the only bar that I had that was 16" .325 I had changed the sprocket nose over to 3/8 to use on one of my Poulan 335's.  So no bar here in .325 16".

I got a few 16" K041 and K095 mounts in 66DL. Most still like new.

Still have the bars.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP325/newbar325008_zps119ee6b7.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/490/jonseredbar5000clyfin001.jpg)

Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 16, 2016, 07:53:54 pm
The 18" D176 mount is a great match to the D009 saws I wanted to run in 325.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on January 16, 2016, 08:13:06 pm
I had a 16" X .050 K095 Power Match bar that was .325 but I changed the tip to 3/8"
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Al Smith on January 16, 2016, 08:16:13 pm
I didn't have a .325 by 16" bar on anything but a Stihl 024.

Got the chain back today .When I really looked at it under good light I saw the error of my ways .The side plate looked good ,corner good ,top plate sucked .I gotsta remember to use better light .My Lawd you couldn't have as much as cut your finger on that top plate .
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 16, 2016, 08:16:59 pm
I have K095 bars. I wasnt wanting to cut on them to use one on D009 saw. Thats why I was looking at stihl d025? d176 d009

Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on January 16, 2016, 08:25:36 pm
I have some bigger K095 mount saws. Also a big D025
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on January 16, 2016, 09:11:37 pm
Cut4. My 18" echo is a A041 mount, could u use for anything.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on January 16, 2016, 09:47:39 pm
I finally got around to testing the fundraiser chain.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on January 16, 2016, 09:47:51 pm
https://youtu.be/Ug5cGedr1nc
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 17, 2016, 11:04:07 am
I finally got around to testing the fundraiser chain.

Time any of those cuts?   I tried on the very last one and was around 1.1
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 17, 2016, 11:06:41 am
Like I said earlier IMO dont start a chain till I get the DL count figured out on this 18" bar.
I guess you could start and then break and fix if needed.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on January 17, 2016, 11:26:11 am
holly crap that chain was fast, that dolmar sounded good to.  Nice, Gatekeeper.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on January 17, 2016, 02:09:36 pm
I finally got around to testing the fundraiser chain.

Time any of those cuts?   I tried on the very last one and was around 1.1
Yes. 1.1 was average. Stock lux was 1.70 and CL 1.50. Did some other playing with gullets and stoning on the CL. Got it down to 1.36 average on 3 cuts. Haven't touched it up or anything else yet.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 17, 2016, 02:29:07 pm
Good place to get the  20LPX Oregon chain .325 .050  Sharpens with 3/16" file  http://loggerchain.com/20LPX-Oregon-chain-325-050_c21.htm

Going out at halftime to see about drive link count.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 17, 2016, 02:30:38 pm
Anyone ever compared the stihl 23RS to the  20LPX ?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on January 17, 2016, 02:41:13 pm
I haven't tried lpx
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 17, 2016, 03:07:52 pm
This bar is longer then the 72dl chain I found. So i stopped there even though I had a 78dl on a 295 poulan.

I am going to cut the bar after all to shorten it up. When it warms back up a tad.  So will get a final drive link count in future.
In the teens here with brutal wind chills. Least I am inside the barn shop out of the wind.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on January 17, 2016, 03:24:16 pm
Anyone ever compared the stihl 23RS to the  20LPX ?

What the difference between 23rs & 26rs? Is it just the gauge?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 17, 2016, 03:42:28 pm
23 050 - 26 063 my WAG off hand
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 17, 2016, 03:46:18 pm
Anyone ever compared the stihl 23RS to the  20LPX ?

What the difference between 23rs & 26rs? Is it just the gauge?
23 050 - 26 063 my WAG off hand

Here you go. http://www.stihlusa.com/WebContent/CMSFileLibrary/downloads/STIHL-Saw-Chain-Selection-Identification.pdf

2 3    then 2 5    then 2 6    - 2 325     3 5 6 last number gage
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on January 17, 2016, 04:36:31 pm
The 26rs has a wider cutter & might be a hair taller than 20lpx. I've never ran them on the same saw so which performs better I don't know.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on January 17, 2016, 05:21:24 pm
I guess I have to buy a .325 bar now but I'm just going to buy 2 chains already spun up so cut4fun don't have to respin them lol .
Do I have to do anything else to run this chain on any of my Saws ? They are all set up for 3/8 .050 chain
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on January 17, 2016, 05:28:18 pm
You will need a .325 rim or spur sprocket?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 17, 2016, 06:10:00 pm
 Chris dont buy any chains made to certain DL till I get this bar and chain deal figured out.

Plenty of time IMO.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on January 17, 2016, 06:12:22 pm
23 050 - 26 063 my WAG off hand
Yep
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 17, 2016, 06:12:54 pm
The 26rs has a wider cutter & might be a hair taller than 20lpx. I've never ran them on the same saw so which performs better I don't know.

Thanks.

I know comparing by looks the 23RS cutter is nice compared to the 33LG.   23RS is the one I used  to mess with when needing a faster 325 chain.

23RS 3/16 file
20LPX says 3/16 file
33LG 5/32 file
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 17, 2016, 07:32:43 pm
I finally got around to testing the fundraiser chain.

Time any of those cuts?   I tried on the very last one and was around 1.1

I was messing around this morning and timed the second cut at 1.05 seconds.  I thought I had posted that but I must of forgot to hit the post button.  PDQ.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on January 17, 2016, 07:35:07 pm
I finally got around to testing the fundraiser chain.

Time any of those cuts?   I tried on the very last one and was around 1.1

I was messing around this morning and timed the second cut at 1.05 seconds.  I thought I had posted that but I must of forgot to hit the post button.  PDQ.
They're pretty quick. Matt should do ok if he don't mess up a changeover with the saw.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on January 17, 2016, 07:55:03 pm
I won't until I see what you are using cut4fun
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 17, 2016, 08:03:37 pm
I won't until I see what you are using cut4fun

I am thinking of modding my oiler and bar tensioner on my K041 or using my narrow K095 jonsered bar (ones in pic ).

That way I can use the 362xp I built from the ground up. Then again was talking today and have a option of a 6800i too.  Both small mount and stock.

Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on January 17, 2016, 08:21:06 pm
Most unnecessary outdoor or out in the shop activity is on hold around here for 2 or 3 days until the Canadian clipper cold spell moves along.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 17, 2016, 08:33:43 pm
Most unnecessary outdoor or out in the shop activity is on hold around here for 2 or 3 days until the Canadian clipper cold spell moves along.

Without windchill I have 5 right now 8:34pm
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 17, 2016, 08:34:48 pm
with windchill online showing -14
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on January 17, 2016, 09:23:05 pm
That chain was movin in that vid.  :o
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 17, 2016, 10:02:57 pm
Most unnecessary outdoor or out in the shop activity is on hold around here for 2 or 3 days until the Canadian clipper cold spell moves along.

We got another 4" of snow last night.   But no wind for a change just looks like a smooth white blanket out there.

  I made a couple of pickaroons out in the garage even though it is not heated.  I just get the cabin fever and go out and do things any ways.   Yesterday I put on the ski mask and went out and cut some wood up for the stacks.   Got keep up with the 3 year plan.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on January 18, 2016, 12:25:51 am
I saw where some snow came across where you live last night. Seemed to move right along.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on January 18, 2016, 08:16:23 am
If I had it your money would be no good with me.  If I get extra I will let you know.  Plus I will make sure you get the 5/32 325 cutter chain.  :P
Thanks Cut, but I dont want you fronting any cabbage for me ......... lemme know what they cost you. I do appreciate the thought though. I especially like knowing that the 5/32 cutter is being hunted down



Now you want to sell me some of those  single bevel raker files you dont like. ;)

Sure ............ after the race, you sandbagging, "no good square filer" ............ no good - my foot !!!!  ;D


Lemme see what I have left, I just gave some away a few weeks back

We got another 4" of snow last night.   But no wind for a change just looks like a smooth white blanket out there.

  I made a couple of pickaroons out in the garage even though it is not heated.  I just get the cabin fever and go out and do things any ways.   Yesterday I put on the ski mask and went out and cut some wood up for the stacks.   Got keep up with the 3 year plan.
Would you mind going into detail on how you made them pickaroons ?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on January 18, 2016, 10:44:52 am
I finally got around to testing the fundraiser chain.

Time any of those cuts?   I tried on the very last one and was around 1.1

I was messing around this morning and timed the second cut at 1.05 seconds.  I thought I had posted that but I must of forgot to hit the post button.  PDQ.
They're pretty quick. Matt should do ok if he don't mess up a changeover with the saw.
Yup..
5cube gas last year sub 4 would have you in the money.. May have Levi run it.
He's quick..
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 18, 2016, 12:04:13 pm


  I made a couple of pickaroons out in the garage even though it is not heated.  I just get the cabin fever and go out and do things any ways.   Yesterday I put on the ski mask and went out and cut some wood up for the stacks.   Got keep up with the 3 year plan.

Would you mind going into detail on how you made them pickaroons ?

I posted everything in the welding forum here if you want to check them out.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on January 18, 2016, 12:52:15 pm

I posted everything in the welding forum here if you want to check them out.

Thank you Sir !!
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on January 18, 2016, 01:10:20 pm
you Sir !!

IMO I cant square file. Honestly thats how I feel. 

Remember I didnt test anything either. I just got lucky.

I only eye everything as I know what I want by looks. No measuring or making sure of the right angles or degrees here.  I just wing it.

Even a blind squirrel gets lucky and finds a nut every now and then.   :P
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on January 18, 2016, 01:12:04 pm
@Moparmyway last time I checked. Member here had 12' of the 33LG 5/32 cutter if you want their username.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on January 18, 2016, 03:03:34 pm
I finally got around to testing the fundraiser chain.

Time any of those cuts?   I tried on the very last one and was around 1.1

I was messing around this morning and timed the second cut at 1.05 seconds.  I thought I had posted that but I must of forgot to hit the post button.  PDQ.
They're pretty quick. Matt should do ok if he don't mess up a changeover with the saw.
Yup..
5cube gas last year sub 4 would have you in the money.. May have Levi run it.
He's quick..
That would be cool. Hopefully with the unlimited coil it will knock another tenth off each cut.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 18, 2016, 04:16:34 pm
@Skippysphins  are you left handed? 

I was looking at your chain when boxing up for a look again.  The left sides look fine. It is the right side that has the tilt back side deal I was telling you about.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 18, 2016, 04:19:18 pm
All chains boxed up that are going back but 1. Waiting to see if I need to add a part in it or not.

Roger, Mike's chain is in your box.

awol, hedges is in your box.

Rest are all who sent that wanted back.

Should go out Tues.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on January 18, 2016, 04:23:40 pm
@Moparmyway last time I checked. Member here had 12' of the 33LG 5/32 cutter if you want their username.

Sure, I will wait for Dl count from you, then see if he has enough for a loop or two
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 18, 2016, 04:33:55 pm
@Moparmyway last time I checked. Member here had 12' of the 33LG 5/32 cutter if you want their username.

Sure, I will wait for Dl count from you, then see if he has enough for a loop or two

PM'ed

I went through more bars today. I found a group more of 325 66dl small mount bars where I used to go 3/8 on these saws. 
If 66dl will fit 8T I am hoping this is what we end up with. 

Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 18, 2016, 06:37:43 pm
Hey thanks Kevin and thanks to the guys who donated their chain.  I will put them to good use on my Poulan 260 that I was just using today.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on January 18, 2016, 06:48:19 pm
You're welcome.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on January 18, 2016, 08:19:50 pm
Im coming after u squares. Can't wait till next cut off I have some tricks up my sleeve.  ;D
And if I lose ill tuck my tail and run... lol
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 18, 2016, 08:25:19 pm
I am thinking of taking 3 or 4 saws put a 3/8 7 on them. Test with same chain and see which pulls fastest and feels best pulling in cut.  Then decided from there which will go to 325 8
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on January 18, 2016, 08:38:02 pm
Are we all using the same make of chain for the .325
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on January 18, 2016, 08:56:59 pm
That's a good idea Kevin.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 18, 2016, 09:02:05 pm
IMO use what you want.   There is carlton, oregon x2 or 3, stihl.

I was going to try stock carlton, stihl, oregon lg and lpx


If I was going to have to use all same chain I would look at lpx or rs for filed chains
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 18, 2016, 09:12:27 pm
Make a poll and let folks that are going to be in the 325 chain build off decide.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on January 18, 2016, 09:56:03 pm
Rs is the biggest cutter so with a 60cc driving it I think it would work better. 
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on January 19, 2016, 12:40:35 pm
Rs is the biggest cutter so with a 60cc driving it I think it would work better. 
It's a toss up right now between the RS and the LPX.
I may get a loop of each and start checking things.
Leaning towards the RS for simplicity.
They gonna be .050 drivers?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 19, 2016, 01:09:48 pm
Rs is the biggest cutter so with a 60cc driving it I think it would work better. 
It's a toss up right now between the RS and the LPX.
I may get a loop of each and start checking things.
Leaning towards the RS for simplicity.
They gonna be .050 drivers?

050
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: old guy on January 19, 2016, 02:03:37 pm
Why is lpx more popular than lgx?

   John
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on January 19, 2016, 02:13:42 pm
Why is lpx more popular than lgx?

   John
I don't know that it's more popular. I just cant get .325LGX here in my area for some reason.
If a man wants .325 with a full chisel cutter, it's Stihl RS, or Oregon LPX.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on January 19, 2016, 02:16:35 pm
Lgx is what I run in 3/8. But it isn't an option for .325.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 19, 2016, 02:19:24 pm
Lgx is what I run in 3/8. But it isn't an option for .325.

Thats what I find weird. Why oregon did that.  Thats why I liked the 33LG 325.  But I liked the bigger cutter of the RS.

Then again now we know bucking cuts that bumper dont mean chit.  :P

Also why I want to run the new oregon stock compared to the stihl carlton and old 33lg
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: ChainBuildOff on January 19, 2016, 04:41:47 pm
Rest of the boxes mailed.

USPS priority small flat rate boxes. 5-3/8" x 8-5/8" x 1-5/8"

They are up to $6.80 now and allow 4lbs.   
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on January 19, 2016, 04:52:33 pm
That makes sense.... Fuel goes down, raise rates.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 19, 2016, 05:24:37 pm
That makes sense.... Fuel goes down, raise rates.

Yep caught me off guard. But what the heck only .85 cents more. Just wish I had some lead for each box. :)

Also both your chains sent back to you. Skip never let me know after you made post.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on January 19, 2016, 05:43:43 pm
Yeah I noticed they went up. Bastards
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on January 19, 2016, 09:51:36 pm
What did I miss I have had a terrible head cold still do ? I apologize if I missed anything
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 20, 2016, 01:16:13 pm
I added ANY 325 we choose to the poll that was made above. Like me I have some 33LG small cutter stuff.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on January 20, 2016, 02:27:53 pm
I added ANY 325 we choose to the poll that was made above. Like me I have some 33LG small cutter stuff.
Sure Kevin..
Add it after I went and voted already!!
Change mine to "Any .325 we chose"
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 20, 2016, 02:44:32 pm
I added ANY 325 we choose to the poll that was made above. Like me I have some 33LG small cutter stuff.
Sure Kevin..
Add it after I went and voted already!!
Change mine to "Any .325 we chose"

I'll see if I can fix that.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 20, 2016, 02:46:30 pm
I added ANY 325 we choose to the poll that was made above. Like me I have some 33LG small cutter stuff.
Sure Kevin..
Add it after I went and voted already!!
Change mine to "Any .325 we chose"

I'll see if I can fix that.

Nope I'm to puter stupid.  I could reset to zero but not change counts. No biggie.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 20, 2016, 02:47:23 pm
I never noticed the poll till today.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 20, 2016, 05:39:01 pm
I voted.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on January 20, 2016, 06:17:58 pm
i voted to yehaww...
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on January 20, 2016, 07:17:46 pm
I voted
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on January 20, 2016, 08:27:14 pm
Run what ya brung.  ;D
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: jmester on January 20, 2016, 08:44:11 pm
I posted the poll at 6:30 or so this morning.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on January 21, 2016, 08:25:46 am
Good job Jm. Im all for whatever .325 we have or want.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on January 21, 2016, 09:00:38 am
Everyone picking their own chain could be more interesting to see what people do to different brands.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 21, 2016, 11:19:26 am
Everyone picking their own chain could be more interesting to see what people do to different brands.

I agree.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 21, 2016, 02:24:38 pm
You all going to think I'm stupid. But I look forward to see how the stock 325 ole LG - LPX -  RS and Carlton stack up.  Stock for stock
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on January 21, 2016, 02:42:43 pm
I think there is a .325 RS3 that looks just like the .325 LPX?  I have not used the RS3 but I have RS, RM, & RM2 with the old angel wing type bumpers. All in .325 & .063 gauge. All of them came from Cut4fun used. They all cut good in the woods.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on January 21, 2016, 03:14:47 pm
I think there is a .325 RS3 that looks just like the .325 LPX?  I have not used the RS3 but I have RS, RM, & RM2 with the old angel wing type bumpers. All in .325 & .063 gauge. All of them came from Cut4fun used. They all cut good in the woods.

It looks like the hump is a little more rounded on the lpx to me.

http://www.stihlusa.com/products/chain-saws/saw-chains/rsc3/

http://www.oregonproducts.com/pro/products/chain/20_21_22LPSuper20.htm
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 21, 2016, 03:18:02 pm
Wish oregon would make a PS version, heck even a PS3 version in LP.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on January 21, 2016, 03:53:49 pm
We settle on drive link count yet?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on January 23, 2016, 06:32:56 pm
@ch74  dont you have a shop that can break down that 20" 325 chain for you?   

When I get the DL count figured out, then it could be done.  Still guessing 66.  So wait IMO
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on January 23, 2016, 07:07:58 pm
I figure I'll make it for a bar I have an add a little or shorten it to fit.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 24, 2016, 07:29:50 pm
I'll get back at this this week I hope.  Sorry for the hold up. 
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 25, 2016, 01:04:27 pm
Had time to think on it.

Going to go with 362xp in small mount. No bar modifying to do this.   Going to put a .325 8T on and make a chain if I have 66dl left to make one.

Saw was built from 2 bare crankcase halves I had. Just because I want to see how a stock 362xp small mount saw ran.

The 362xp is like new with broke in top end. New oem crank kit,  tank etc.   No muffler mod etc. Stock as stock can be.


Soon as I can get it set up I will let you know. 

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/362XP/262xpcover003.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/362XP/262xpcover002.jpg)

During build before I had all the parts.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/362XP/DSCF0004.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/362XP/DSCF0005.jpg)

Can you see pics below this?

(http://masterblasterhome.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=27118&d=1287007234)
(http://masterblasterhome.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=27119&d=1287007241)
(http://masterblasterhome.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=27120&d=1287007248)
(http://masterblasterhome.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=27121&d=1287007256)

Learned you eat chips with no clutch cover.  :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gD3rBS2SM8Y



Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 25, 2016, 02:11:56 pm
May make a video using a stock 3/8 lgx with 7T and then see if it will pull the chain I made for the 3120 9T build off. Heck maybe the 3ci chain too. Just for chits.  Then put a 66dl 325 33LG 5/32 together with 8T and see.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on January 25, 2016, 02:49:57 pm
Dude. that is a really nice saw. Wish i could afford a xp husky.
I have a polish wife now all i need is a swedish saw, and a hardwood stand. lol
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 25, 2016, 04:58:02 pm
I didnt have a 66dl already made to try today. I got cold and quit, so I will make one later.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on January 25, 2016, 07:36:24 pm
That should work good for the testing.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on January 25, 2016, 08:11:14 pm
That should work good for the testing.

Didnt want to over power the 325. Thinking the 362 might be right at the edge of being perfect test machine for 325 stock.

Glad I was able to take time and think it all through.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 25, 2016, 08:51:22 pm
That should make for some pretty fast times.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: HLSupply on January 26, 2016, 10:23:48 am
Sounds fun. You should post about it in OPEforum.com and keep us updated on progress. Is there a prize? Braggin' rights?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on January 26, 2016, 11:25:30 am
The winner gets certain inalienable bragging rights and a boost to his inner psychic?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 26, 2016, 12:29:47 pm
Sounds fun. You should post about it in OPEforum.com and keep us updated on progress. Is there a prize? Braggin' rights?

Already did in the round square chain thread awhile back. No interest three really.   Most there seem to have other things on their mind then wanting to file a chain for fun.   Like posting snackie pics :o 
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: HLSupply on January 26, 2016, 12:34:42 pm
 ;D he said "snackie"
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 26, 2016, 12:42:48 pm
;D he said "snackie"

Just made a thread there to see if we can get more involved from the snackie pool. ;)
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: HLSupply on January 26, 2016, 01:13:30 pm
When I click LIKE on your snackie post, I get
An Error Has Occurred!
Sorry, you can't repeat a karma action without waiting 1 hours.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on January 26, 2016, 01:18:24 pm
;D he said "snackie"

Just made a thread there to see if we can get more involved from the snackie pool. ;)

So 66 dl is a go?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 26, 2016, 01:20:48 pm
When I click LIKE on your snackie post, I get
An Error Has Occurred!
Sorry, you can't repeat a karma action without waiting 1 hours.

You can only click same person once a hr or you get a error.  I never adjusted the time on it.   Guess I should.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 26, 2016, 01:21:54 pm
;D he said "snackie"

Just made a thread there to see if we can get more involved from the snackie pool. ;)

So 66 dl is a go?

I have to do taxes today so cant check for 100%. Pretty sure it is 66 with 325 8. But I havent made or test fitted with the 362xp with 8 yet. But the bar is 66.

We got plenty of time so just give me a few to make up a chain and test fit in a day or so.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 26, 2016, 01:28:04 pm
When I click LIKE on your snackie post, I get
An Error Has Occurred!
Sorry, you can't repeat a karma action without waiting 1 hours.

You can only click same person once a hr or you get a error.  I never adjusted the time on it.   Guess I should.

Just checked. It is 1hr min you can adjust to. So only 1 like can be done to same person per hour by you. Guess it keeps you from liking the same persons different post of a 100 in a hour basically.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: HLSupply on January 26, 2016, 01:31:13 pm
[LIKE]  ;D There's my (typed) work around.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on January 26, 2016, 01:48:41 pm
;D he said "snackie"

Just made a thread there to see if we can get more involved from the snackie pool. ;)

So 66 dl is a go?

I have to do taxes today so cant check for 100%. Pretty sure it is 66 with 325 8. But I havent made or test fitted with the 362xp with 8 yet. But the bar is 66.

We got plenty of time so just give me a few to make up a chain and test fit in a day or so.

No hurry. Just saw the do count on ope. You might mention that it's not definit there.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 26, 2016, 08:13:30 pm
I was just offered enough saws and parts to fill my 48x36 shop.   :o
 
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 27, 2016, 01:17:21 pm
Just thought of something. My picco bar in small mount. I can put my chain on the 362 and see what it does with 3/8 7 to compare also.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on January 28, 2016, 02:04:02 pm
Some pictures compairing ps3, a one time sharpened rs, and a lpx.

Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 28, 2016, 02:23:04 pm
Cutters look so close to my ole eyes?   Have you compared inside cutter face?

Sorry guys I havent made a loop to test fit yet. Been busy shipping stuff out. Need to go pack a tank now too.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 28, 2016, 02:24:11 pm
Some pictures compairing ps3, a one time sharpened rs, and a lpx.



You done any cut comparisons?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on January 28, 2016, 02:58:25 pm
Not yet. Waiting on some 23rs.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on January 28, 2016, 02:59:39 pm
Very close cutter sizes.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on January 28, 2016, 03:08:08 pm


Cutters look so close to my ole eyes?   Have you compared inside cutter face?


Anything in particular you want to know?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 28, 2016, 03:15:31 pm


Cutters look so close to my ole eyes?   Have you compared inside cutter face?


Anything in particular you want to know?

Nope just your opinion with a file put inside them. ;)
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 28, 2016, 03:17:04 pm
I swear I remember the RS 325 having a bigger cutter area in front.  I know had plenty of room to work it in 07.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 30, 2016, 03:38:12 pm
Dang it. Another bonehead road block on my bad planning.

50 degrees out so I was making 66dl chains from the 33lg.  Went to test fit 66 on the 362xp and darn it. I didnt have a standard 325 rim in 7 or 8. Only small. 
I couldnt even find the 9 325 I thought I had and I keep this stuff in little bins.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 30, 2016, 03:41:31 pm
Son of a bean eater  :-X :P :-[. Going by this they only make a 325 9 in standard. https://www.oregonproducts.com/pdf/sprockets/RimSproxFB0601.pdf

Anyone know for sure on this with other brands?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 30, 2016, 03:49:14 pm
Going to order 325 standard in 9T from LCS.  Anyone want me to order them 1 or so?   

So will need to check the drive link count with a 9. So hold up making chains.

Jim I have 325 stihl parts here IF we need to lengthen your RS 66dl chain.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 30, 2016, 04:20:41 pm
Thinking. Only saw I have that has small rim is the Poulan Pro 365 60cc open port I rebuilt. 

Want me to test a 325 8 and see how it pulls? The saw pulls 3/8 7 fine.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on January 30, 2016, 05:11:27 pm
OK
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 30, 2016, 05:21:21 pm
I just test ran my stock poulan 415 with the aggressive  chain I made for the 3120 back in the day and 8T.  It didnt like me pushing on it.  :D  I figured the pine cant would be forgiving with me pushing.  :P

The last cut felt good once the saw was getting warmed up and drawing fresh gas. Least that is my thinking.

Uploading video.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 30, 2016, 05:27:22 pm
My dang finger is still bleeding from putting that turd on.

I think it would be faster with the 3/8 7.

https://youtu.be/cBCkLC2ovpc

Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 30, 2016, 05:48:28 pm
Cuts 2 3 looked fastest watching video. Any times? Under 2 counting in my head.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on January 30, 2016, 06:46:19 pm
1   1.78  1.73
2   1.69  1.74
3   1.68  1.75
4   1.78  1.73
5   1.69  1.74
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 30, 2016, 06:48:17 pm
Cut # 1   1.70 sec
      # 2   1.67 sec
      # 3   1.63 sec
      # 4   1.60 sec
      # 5   1.60 sec
      # 6   1.57 sec.
All very close and pretty consistent in your cutting.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 30, 2016, 07:37:37 pm
Thanks guys on the timing.   

I so wanted to try a change over. But I was scared to fubarr it really bad.  :P
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 30, 2016, 08:53:05 pm
Just so you know I only had enough 33LG for 2 loops. 1 I want stock other I was going to file.  Had a few links left but not enough for a short chain even.

Also on the 10?? dl of oregon 76 I can get it all for for just over $200 just a tad shy of .20 a dl without the shipping.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 30, 2016, 10:16:47 pm
Ideas. Who has a saw in small mount that can take a small 325 8 rim?  Maybe something stronger then my stock 60cc poulan.  Even ported that can take cut after cut.  ;)

I will test the 60cc PP with 325 8 and 325 33LG and get video. Then we will see what you all think.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 30, 2016, 10:41:48 pm
The only thing I have Kevin are the 3750 Poulans.    I believe you could set one up for .325.   Everything else that is in the 60cc range or bigger will not take a .325 rim.

Remember the 3750 that had the bow bar on it.   That one has had the compression bumped up and ported a little also timing advanced and muffler modded.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on January 30, 2016, 11:51:21 pm
I have a nice 357XP. It has a large rim but you could put a 346 clutch bell on it with the small rim?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 31, 2016, 12:10:30 am
Yep both of the above could run 325.  Jim yours would need that 346 set up we used to switch around. Roger yours would just need the rim which I have. 

Lets see what happens local first then may need to reach out.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 31, 2016, 05:31:24 pm
Even the 3500 that is in my Avatar is a pretty good runner too.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 31, 2016, 05:35:42 pm
Even the 3500 that is in my Avatar is a pretty good runner too.

For chits. The work about the same on the 3750 and 3500?   Like to see same chain on both and see what the bigger carb and intake boot do for the 3750.  Same cylinders basically on both (just impulse locations different).
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 31, 2016, 05:43:22 pm
Yep I did the same mods on both saws.  You know how that is though sometimes one of them just seems to run better even though they are the same.   You are welcome to try and see.

Both are work saws and I have used them up in the mountains for cutting firewood.   Both still have the spark arrester in them also and can be removed.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 31, 2016, 06:01:43 pm
Yep I did the same mods on both saws.  You know how that is though sometimes one of them just seems to run better even though they are the same.   You are welcome to try and see.

Both are work saws and I have used them up in the mountains for cutting firewood.   Both still have the spark arrester in them also and can be removed.

You can test out there and let us know.  I am still wanting to test on the stocker someday.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 31, 2016, 06:16:32 pm
I am afraid my cutting style is not consistent like you.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 31, 2016, 06:19:34 pm
I am afraid my cutting style is not consistent like you.

Just listen to the motor and keep it in the right r's. You will hear the sweet spot. ;)
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on January 31, 2016, 06:49:19 pm
My son still likes the 3500 he's been using for 10 years. Sort of his favorite. I bet he would like a 3750 even better?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 02, 2016, 11:56:40 am
Had a idea last night. Anyone ever looked to see if it was possible to open a small rim up to a standard rim?  Is there enough land and grooves to do so left?  That way could take a 325 8 small to a standard.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: HLSupply on February 02, 2016, 12:07:29 pm
I saw that your thread there now has some interest from the "snackie pool".
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 02, 2016, 12:37:16 pm
Had a idea last night. Anyone ever looked to see if it was possible to open a small rim up to a standard rim?  Is there enough land and grooves to do so left?  That way could take a 325 8 small to a standard.
I was thinking the same thing.   There was someone here that converted a rim for picco to fit on a larger clutch drum.  But like you said don't know if there is enough material to do the machining and still be strong.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 02, 2016, 12:54:02 pm
I saw that your thread there now has some interest from the "snackie pool".

Long as they leave their snackies at the door. ;) :P

Having new blood joining in will also let us all see and share new ideas.  I seen some in the last build off. :o 8)
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 02, 2016, 12:55:26 pm
Had a idea last night. Anyone ever looked to see if it was possible to open a small rim up to a standard rim?  Is there enough land and grooves to do so left?  That way could take a 325 8 small to a standard.
I was thinking the same thing.   There was someone here that converted a rim for picco to fit on a larger clutch drum.  But like you said don't know if there is enough material to do the machining and still be strong.

Yeah Shaun did the picco mini to small. But I wonder if this small to standard will work too.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 02, 2016, 03:28:28 pm
I just finished up checking and trying my rednecking.  Fail ;)

The standard is way bigger around compared to small. The grooves would have to be recut in too.  I still tried but failed. Needs to be done on a lathe or mill or whatever etc.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on February 03, 2016, 02:27:38 pm
What was decided for the next chain build off . dl and type of chain . and what size saw
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 03, 2016, 02:33:05 pm
What was decided for the next chain build off . dl and type of chain . and what size saw

All in past postings. But quick review ;)

Right now 325 050 still and guessing 66DL not confirmed because IF I use a 9T on the 362xp it might throw that off.

Looking at a small rim saws right now in the 357 56.5cc to pp365 60cc range

Got plenty of time so not pressing the issue as I am hitting many road blocks with some of my stupid ideas. 
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on February 03, 2016, 02:42:22 pm
I'm for what ever is easiest for you . would a stock 2165 be close enough ?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 03, 2016, 03:22:22 pm
I'm for what ever is easiest for you . would a stock 2165 be close enough ?

I got that and many others in that large mount. That created my first problems I didnt think out. Large mount 325 ;) Then the standard rims only in 9T 325. ;)
See already been down that road with 2165 365 415 etc. ;)

So I went with 362xp with small mount which I have the bar for. Then I hit that dang standard rim deal again.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 03, 2016, 03:25:40 pm
Maybe just put the 346 set up on a 357.  http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/husqvarna/346-353-etc/
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on February 03, 2016, 05:47:42 pm
That would be easiest Kevin.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 03, 2016, 07:13:05 pm
That would be easiest Kevin.

Going to test stock 357xp and  PP365 in future with 3/8 on both.   Will go from there.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 03, 2016, 07:31:58 pm
I can send the 3500 which is not stock or the 3750 which is not stock.   No charge and I will pay for return shipping.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 03, 2016, 07:51:59 pm
I can send the 3500 which is not stock or the 3750 which is not stock.   No charge and I will pay for return shipping.

Roger IF you really want me to test them all in same wood for you I can.   Not a have to and cost of shipping back forth not cheap to you and me as we know.

I am just trying to keep this all under my budget right now (aka cheap). 
Just sent son more $$$ for college living.   Just trying to let him enjoy life while he can without having to work and go to school.   Right now its working out for for us.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: jmester on February 03, 2016, 08:28:29 pm
I have a 346 set up that you can use. Clutch, rim sprocket, oil pump gear, sprocket bearing. I can try it out on my 359 if that helps. Have .325/8t gear if you need that too. Let me know.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 03, 2016, 08:38:29 pm
I got rims.  I know the set up will work. 
I have been back forth with them before.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: jmester on February 03, 2016, 08:41:03 pm
If you want to use I will box it up and get it headed your way.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 03, 2016, 09:01:19 pm
I have a 346 set up that you can use. Clutch, rim sprocket, oil pump gear, sprocket bearing.

If you want to use I will box it up and get it headed your way.

Bearing should be the same right? Cant remember but thinking so.  Then would only need the clutch drum set up for small rims, oil pump gear for 346 small set up.

Am I thinking straight guys?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 03, 2016, 09:09:49 pm
I am not familiar with the 346 setup so no help here.   
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: jmester on February 03, 2016, 10:01:36 pm
I can do some digging in the morning.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 03, 2016, 10:42:52 pm
I can send the 3500 which is not stock or the 3750 which is not stock.   No charge and I will pay for return shipping.

Roger IF you really want me to test them all in same wood for you I can.   Not a have to and cost of shipping back forth not cheap to you and me as we know.

I am just trying to keep this all under my budget right now (aka cheap). 
Just sent son more $$$ for college living.   Just trying to let him enjoy life while he can without having to work and go to school.   Right now its working out for for us.

I was not really worried about the money.  I have no kids, never had any kids, and will never have any kids.  Just me and the wife and you cannot take it with you.

If you come up with something else no sweat just an offer is all, not a have to.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on February 04, 2016, 02:22:43 am
Anything I can do to help let me know
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: jmester on February 04, 2016, 07:18:18 am
Bearing is the same. Not sure if your clutch will fit in the clutch drum?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 04, 2016, 12:25:57 pm
My old post in link I posted here in thread. Shows bearing same part #

Fits the following chainsaws:

    Husqvarna 340, 345, 346, 350, 351, 353, 357, 359, 445 and 450
    Jonsered 2141, 2145, 2149, 2150, 2151, 2152, 2156, 2159
    Replaces Part Number 503 98 00 01 and 503 88 01 71
    Fits Crankshaft Diameter .500 (1/2")
    Drive Sprocket Bearing ORF 11893
    Rim Spline Size Small 7 tooth (RSS)
    Optional Replacement Rim Pitch and Tooth Choices (sold separately)
        ORF 11892 325" x 7
        ORF 11891 325" x 8
        ORF 18720 375" x 7


    Husqvarna 357, 359
    Jonsered 2156, 2159, CS2141, CS2145, CS2149
    Replaces Part Number 503 98 00 01 and 503 88 01 71

    Note If you are converting a Husqvarna 357 or 359 from a spur system you need to purchase #503 91 27 03 oil pump drive gear. This rim & drum system has a standard 7 spline and uses RSD rims.

Fits Crankshaft Diameter .500 (1/2")
Drive Sprocket Bearing ORF 11893
Rim Spline Size Standard 7 tooth (RSD)
Optional Replacement Rim Pitch and Tooth Choices (sold separately)

    ORF 13624 .325" x 9
    ORF 68210 3/8" x 7
    ORF 22273 3/8" x 8
    ORF 22270 .404" x 7
    ORF 13313 .404" x 8





(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/346xpg262xp/346rimsetups003_zpsc3901e4c.jpg)
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: jmester on February 04, 2016, 05:10:01 pm
Do you want me to send this stuff. And do you want me to send along the clutch?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 04, 2016, 05:18:33 pm
Do you want me to send this stuff. And do you want me to send along the clutch?

I was going to test 3/8 7 on the 357 and PP365 first to see which one.

If we go with 357. I will need = if you have 346 small set up clutch drum and oiler gear. That should be all that is needed to test.

But wait if you dont mind. Like I said I am in no hurry. 
Lot of other things going on with family etc and no time to play with saws.  Family fun time comes first.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: jmester on February 04, 2016, 05:25:09 pm
I am not going anywhere. Just let me know when you are ready.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on February 04, 2016, 08:42:45 pm
So can I order a couple chains 66dl .325  .050 gauge
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 04, 2016, 09:07:58 pm
So can I order a couple chains 66dl .325  .050 gauge

Your ****

Need to test fit 325 8T on the PP365 and 357xp.  Know it will work with 7T. 
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on February 05, 2016, 09:59:49 am
I will wait .
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 05, 2016, 10:19:41 pm
Going to go in a split round 3 325 chain build off into its on thread. New guys joining in are getting confused with the stuff combined.

copy and past same rules we used in PS PS3 chain build off.

Things that will separate race from work chain IMO.

Race

Thinned cutters
Stoned cutters
Thinned or reshaped small rakers
Tunneling under cutter
Cut off back of cutters heels etc or angled back of cutter
Grinding or polishing work on rivets
Dog boning
Work on top of inner drive link area ( dont know if most of you do or know about this )
Beveled edges


Im sure there is more if we need to ad to list ;).  If you can add to list please do.

Just want the work chain to be work chain for the guys doing work.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on February 05, 2016, 10:42:31 pm
That should cover everything.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 05, 2016, 11:00:20 pm
I would add but I do not even know what everything is on the list as is.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 05, 2016, 11:07:53 pm
New member joining in sent me these pics to share.

Carlton versus LPX profiles.

Side view Carlton.



Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on February 06, 2016, 12:12:39 am


Going to go in a split round 3 325 chain build off into its on thread. New guys joining in are getting confused with the stuff combined.

copy and past same rules we used in PS PS3 chain build off.

Things that will separate race from work chain IMO.

Race

Thinned cutters
Stoned cutters
Thinned or reshaped small rakers
Tunneling under cutter
Cut off back of cutters heels etc or angled back of cutter
Grinding or polishing work on rivets
Dog boning
Work on top of inner drive link area ( dont know if most of you do or know about this )
Beveled edges


Im sure there is more if we need to ad to list ;).  If you can add to list please do.

Just want the work chain to be work chain for the guys doing work.


Isn't it easier to just say what is allowed for the work class? Like sharpened, gauges set, and any bumper removal. Maybe you did that and I missed it the first round.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 06, 2016, 10:14:05 am


Going to go in a split round 3 325 chain build off into its on thread. New guys joining in are getting confused with the stuff combined.

copy and past same rules we used in PS PS3 chain build off.

Things that will separate race from work chain IMO.

Race

Thinned cutters
Stoned cutters
Thinned or reshaped small rakers
Tunneling under cutter
Cut off back of cutters heels etc or angled back of cutter
Grinding or polishing work on rivets
Dog boning
Work on top of inner drive link area ( dont know if most of you do or know about this )
Beveled edges


Im sure there is more if we need to ad to list ;).  If you can add to list please do.

Just want the work chain to be work chain for the guys doing work.


Isn't it easier to just say what is allowed for the work class? Like sharpened, gauges set, and any bumper removal. Maybe you did that and I missed it the first round.

Trust me when I say. If you dont put it in clear written out rules and conveyed. Folks will look for the loop hole and go that route. 

Look at how the chainsaw builds go. ;)  First thing I do is think of what they say that you couldnt do and you can do and start thinking what will still fit inside the rules they laid out. Folks start thinking outside the box and that is a good thing.

Just like SF race IMO was outside of the box for the norm and ch74 work chain round filed work chain was way different then anything I have ever seen.
 
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on February 07, 2016, 10:22:16 am
So 66 or 67 dl chain is what we need?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 07, 2016, 01:34:49 pm
Out of frustration of not getting my sons car started. I did something I knew wtheck I was doing.

Pulled the clutch pit a 325 8T on the PP365 and put the 66DL dl chain and bar  on it.

Will check the 357 later when everything comes together.

But lets call it in stone.  66DL 325 050 for rd 3.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 07, 2016, 02:05:20 pm
I ordered my 2 stihl 23RS 66DL off ebay some seller makes loops to order from bulk.

Going to get Carlton K1L through Nate here on the site at http://performanceoutdoorequipment.com/collections/chainsaw-bars-and-chains/products/carlton-k1l-325-050-66dl

Getting the Oregon 20LPX from Frawleys saw shop aka   Loggerchain  http://www.loggerchain.com/20LPX-Oregon-chain-325-050_c21.htm

Just to give some leads to chain
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 07, 2016, 02:18:02 pm
@concretegrazer     Is that 26RS in your pic? 

Just make sure to do 23RS or whatever other brand for the build off. 

Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on February 07, 2016, 03:25:37 pm
23 is on its way here. Everything stihl around me is .063.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on February 07, 2016, 07:14:33 pm
I have my loop of 66DL .050 .325 23 RS chain. It came last Wednesday.

They made fun of that "weird odd ball" chain at the Stihl dealer.

All .325 Stihl saws are .063 so that they will not fit 3/8" pitch bars.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on February 08, 2016, 12:40:37 pm
We going to have to watch this new entry. @Sierrawoodsman

The inside cutter view was posted above with no name to it at the time. ;)



Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on February 08, 2016, 12:41:23 pm
New member joining in sent me these pics to share.

Carlton versus LPX profiles.

Side view Carlton.





@Sierrawoodsman

more cutters

Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on February 08, 2016, 12:42:22 pm
Videos @Sierrawoodsman  felt smooth and fast here a quick little video:
also had best looking chips

https://youtu.be/zPDfXWkCBnY


Here's an Oregon 325" LPX Sharpened Square.
used same grinder settings.
As expected ths was the smoothest of the three

https://youtu.be/WGe3yNn_x-k


final test for today was with a 20" bar Carlton .325"
square ground near end of life with low rakers.lot of vibration
Next I want to try a Stihl RS-Square and see how she does.

https://youtu.be/9fSnnBitN94

Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 08, 2016, 07:33:25 pm
I ordered my 2 stihl 23RS 66DL off ebay some seller makes loops to order from bulk.

Going to get Carlton K1L through Nate here on the site at http://performanceoutdoorequipment.com/collections/chainsaw-bars-and-chains/products/carlton-k1l-325-050-66dl

Getting the Oregon 20LPX from Frawleys saw shop aka   Loggerchain  http://www.loggerchain.com/20LPX-Oregon-chain-325-050_c21.htm

Just to give some leads to chain

After getting the estimate on my boys car today. I will be stopping at 3 stock loops and 3 filed loops.

I will be doing stihl RS, oregon 33LG and 20LPX

If anyone wants to see a stock loop of Carlton K1L tested please send it in to be run.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on February 09, 2016, 12:38:35 am
I need to grab a couple loops of stuff. I can get RS so that's probably what I'll use.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 09, 2016, 03:30:05 pm
Anyone compared the 325 LPX cutter to the RS cutter? Height etc?

Wonder about that Carlton K1L cutter too.

I know the 33LG cutter is smaller. 
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on February 09, 2016, 04:10:16 pm
I may do 2 loops. One work and one race. Figure RS is the least safety chain but that didn't matter on the PS.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 09, 2016, 05:14:15 pm
I'm just going to hit the fronts of cutters again just like a first sharpening on new chains. Not the fastest way, but I still have my new chains to use for later that way.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on February 09, 2016, 07:00:49 pm
I may do 2 loops. One work and one race. Figure RS is the least safety chain but that didn't matter on the PS.

lpx looks good without that bumper though.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on February 09, 2016, 07:04:18 pm
Pic didn't load. :)
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 09, 2016, 07:59:15 pm
I see it. Looks good. Any cutter taller?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on February 09, 2016, 11:18:44 pm
I should have a new loop of rs tomorrow. Maybe I can get the gullets cleaned & measure.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on February 10, 2016, 01:06:11 am
Lpx does look good there.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 10, 2016, 05:39:29 pm
Got the LPX and RS 325's today.

Should we make a poll on the fastest stock chains?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 10, 2016, 07:53:15 pm
I ordered a LPX chain.  Frawlys
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on February 11, 2016, 10:39:52 am
Ok gents I'm not going to lie skipped a bunch of pages.  I need all the Information on this chain build off please  . 
Thanks guys
Chris
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on February 11, 2016, 10:48:24 am
Ok gents I'm not going to lie skipped a bunch of pages.  I need all the Information on this chain build off please  . 
Thanks guys
Chris

Chain is 66dl .325 .050 gauge. Still no date yet. Running on a 57-60cc saw with an 8 pin.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 11, 2016, 12:28:03 pm
Ok gents I'm not going to lie skipped a bunch of pages.  I need all the Information on this chain build off please  . 
Thanks guys
Chris

Chain is 66dl .325 .050 gauge. Still no date yet. Running on a 57-60cc saw with an 8 pin.

Figure late Mar for a mail in by date right now.  Then when it gets warmer and I have time in schedule to spend a day with saw and chains.

I aint filing nothing in single digit to teen weather.  Plus no time anyways right now. Still hitting OT

Still plenty of time.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 11, 2016, 12:38:01 pm
Poll for the fastest stock 325  loop   http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/chain/fastest-325-050-stock/msg69179/#new
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on February 11, 2016, 02:57:59 pm
Thanks guys
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 12, 2016, 02:42:01 pm
So what do you think will be faster in 8x8 white pine cant with same 3/8 new chain and 3/8 7T?

Stock rebuilt PP365 60cc open port quad or stock 357XP 56.5cc closed port quad.

They tune at about the same rpms. I am just wondering which will hold it best in the cuts.

I am leaning toward the 357 myself.

I am going to run this test someday when it is warmer to find out. ;)
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 12, 2016, 02:56:16 pm
Depends on carburation and compression.   The size of the engine by itself does not always make it faster, plus the timing numbers for port opening and how good the stock muffler flows.   Never has a 357 apart so do not know.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 12, 2016, 05:38:53 pm
I have ran both stock and going from memory as stock saws.   Time will tell. 

Heck may get fooled just like the PP445 did me, when it out cut the MS440 with DP cover and 372XP.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on February 12, 2016, 05:44:02 pm
Hard to say what will be fastest for sure.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 12, 2016, 06:35:52 pm
I ordered my 2 stihl 23RS 66DL off ebay some seller makes loops to order from bulk.

Going to get Carlton K1L through Nate here on the site at http://performanceoutdoorequipment.com/collections/chainsaw-bars-and-chains/products/carlton-k1l-325-050-66dl

Getting the Oregon 20LPX from Frawleys saw shop aka   Loggerchain  http://www.loggerchain.com/20LPX-Oregon-chain-325-050_c21.htm

Just to give some leads to chain

@Moparmyway  did you ever get a chain or decide which chain you were going to use?   

I do think 33LG is still out there in 325 050 66DL  if that is what you are thinking.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: HolmenTree on February 12, 2016, 10:17:42 pm
Hello guys, haven't been around for a while.  Been busy getting  ready to host the 2016 Northern Manitoba Trappers Festival Logger Sports.
I have some loops of 33LG packed away in some bins. ...I never throw a reusable loop of chain away.
Stock chain the N.K. .325 like the 95VPX will surprise the 20LPX users.
Oregon claims their new 95TXL cuts even faster. Looks like a nice little semi chisel chain.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 13, 2016, 01:28:14 pm
Hello guys, haven't been around for a while.  Been busy getting  ready to host the 2016 Northern Manitoba Trappers Festival Logger Sports.
I have some loops of 33LG packed away in some bins. ...I never throw a reusable loop of chain away.
Stock chain the N.K. .325 like the 95VPX will surprise the 20LPX users.
Oregon claims their new 95TXL cuts even faster. Looks like a nice little semi chisel chain.


Now you made me go look stuff up. ;)



Oregon 95VPX    G-Series Saw Chain
   95VPX chain is part of a Micro-Lite™ narrow-kerf cutting system that requires less power from the saw to cut than standard cutting systems and meets the ANSI low-kickback standard.  https://www.oregonproducts.com/pro/products/chain/95VPX.htm

(https://www.oregonproducts.com/images_pro/products/detail_95VPX.jpg)




Oregon 95TXL Work faster, sharper, easier, with a more efficient chain. Ideal for arborists and property owners who want top performance. 95TXL is for saws up to 55 cc. (Replaces 95VPX.) SpeedCut™ 95TXL narrow kerf cutting systems are more efficient, needing less power from the saw than standard cutting systems. Low-vibration, Micro Chisel cutters have small-radius working corners for excellent performance and easy maintenance. Get a faster, easier cut with a reshaped cutting surface. A sharper, more durable cutting edge from a new precision grind and optimized cutting angle. Always use SpeedCut narrow kerf chain in combination with SpeedCut or Micro-Lite bars.  https://www.oregonproducts.com/pro/products/chain/95TXL.htm

(https://www.oregonproducts.com/images_consumer/products/chain/95TXL_detail.jpg)
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 14, 2016, 05:56:24 pm
No need to send a stock carlton K1L.

I went ahead and ordered a stock Carlton K1L .325 .050 66DL  from Nate here in the where to buy online. Performance Outdoor Equipment
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 14, 2016, 07:47:00 pm
So lets hammer out a date for chains to be received by?

I am thinking Mid Late March to maybe April to run all the chains. When I can get a warmer day to spend running the chains. Like last 2 round were. 
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 14, 2016, 08:12:26 pm
I am for end of March or beginning of April. 
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 14, 2016, 08:17:25 pm
I also have a 325 9T rim coming. I just want to see if the 362xp will still be a 66DL chain with a 9T. 
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 14, 2016, 08:19:29 pm
I am for end of March or beginning of April. 

That will be a run time frame for sure. 

What kind of receive chains by date?  Lets pick something.   Lets say middle of March and  19th is a Sat. Is this good for folks that's in?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on February 14, 2016, 08:21:22 pm
Late March or beginning of April sounds good. Gives an opportunity for some warmer shop time for those who are getting hammered with the cold.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 14, 2016, 08:28:42 pm
Late March or beginning of April sounds good. Gives an opportunity for some warmer shop time for those who are getting hammered with the cold.

You got it.    ;)

Myself included, I dont want to have to run the torpedo to file 3 chains.   

Then I like it little warmer to run the saws all day 1 day. 40 degrees is real good for that.  Mainly for the taken on off chains over and over. Hate working with frozen fingers and cant stand gloves to work in for small stuff.

March 19 good for a due date for chains?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on February 14, 2016, 08:33:54 pm
I still haven't grabbed any 325 loops yet. Trying to tool up the lathe. Got a mandrel made for the 54mm saws, working on making a mandrel for the 56mm stuff now.

Going to order a quick change tool holder, then see when I can grab a couple of loops.

Probably going to just grab RS and file.

End of March deadline would be great, still saving for the quick change ......
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 14, 2016, 08:55:47 pm
March 19th for a mail in due date is good for me.   
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on February 15, 2016, 01:32:20 am
End of March works for me. I should be home once before then.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Sierrawoodsman on February 15, 2016, 12:27:43 pm
We going to have to watch this new entry. @Sierrawoodsman

The inside cutter view was posted above with no name to it at the time. ;)

I Apologize Guys For Not Logging in and introducing myself sooner.
O.K. Little bout me....
My name's Walter Taylor. I'm a Firewood hack from Nevada.
Just a Hobbyist really- Work In The Aerospace industry as an X-ray Inspector for my real job.
Like a lot of you guys I grew up cutting firewood working in the woods with my dad who is now passed on.
 I have a lot of fond memories of those times and trying to pass that on to my kids as well.
I Enjoy Cutting in the High Sierra's as my favorite place to cut.
I Know a few of you guy's from A.S.-(Don't know what the heck happened over but it's falling apart), OPE,Saw Hawgs.Etc

Equipment: A Few Mastered Husky's, and a Silvey Square grinder, and Silvey Raker Grinder.
I Can't Square find for S**T and have to up-most respect for those of you who have mastered this voodoo art.
I will continue to try to get better.

1 more thing, I'm Kinda slow and it took me awhile to figure out I wasn't even in the right forum.
I Thought "CRS" Was something I was Diagnosed with..... "Can't Remember S**T"  ;D
WT
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 15, 2016, 12:32:55 pm
We going to have to watch this new entry. @Sierrawoodsman

The inside cutter view was posted above with no name to it at the time. ;)

I Apologize Guys For Not Logging in and introducing myself sooner.
O.K. Little bout me....
My name's Walter Taylor. I'm a Firewood hack from Nevada.
Just a Hobbyist really- Work In The Aerospace industry as an X-ray Inspector for my real job.
Like a lot of you guys I grew up cutting firewood working in the woods with my dad who is now passed on.
 I have a lot of fond memories of those times and trying to pass that on to my kids as well.
I Enjoy Cutting in the High Sierra's as my favorite place to cut.
I Know a few of you guy's from A.S.-(Don't know what the heck happened over but it's falling apart), OPE,Saw Hawgs.Etc

Equipment: A Few Mastered Husky's, and a Silvey Square grinder, and Silvey Raker Grinder.
I Can't Square find for S**T and have to up-most respect for those of you who have mastered this voodoo art.
I will continue to try to get better.

1 more thing, I'm Kinda slow and it took me awhile to figure out I wasn't even in the right forum.
I Thought "CRS" Was something I was Diagnosed with..... "Can't Remember S**T"  ;D
WT

Welcome aboard and good luck.  8)

From the pics  and videos you posted we will have to watch out for you.  ;)
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 15, 2016, 12:35:34 pm
His videos and pics posted earlier in thread. @Sierrawoodsman

His 3 chain comparison.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 15, 2016, 12:46:15 pm
The Carlton I had was for a 20 inch bar. Just threw it up there for comparison purposes. Also I thought each contestant had a limit of one entry for work/race ea?

Currently In 66 DL I have (2) Stihl RS, (1)-Oregon LPX. I could order up a Carlton as well. It might be interesting to put the same square geometry / Raker clearances the on all three and let the chips fall where they may.


Enter as many as you want in work and race. As long as 66DL 050 325.  No limits
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Sierrawoodsman on February 15, 2016, 01:14:04 pm
Quote

Welcome aboard and good luck.  8)

From the pics  and videos you posted we will have to watch out for you.  ;)

Thank you very much.
I don't think you guy's have anything to be concerned about.
Pretty Pictures Don't mean a thing..."This ain't no Beauty Contest"
It's also well established that ground chain can't compete with a well filed chain.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 15, 2016, 01:53:20 pm
I know Jim used a swing arm grinder on his PS3 last build off.

Let me go find times for stock saw and then woods ported saw.

Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 15, 2016, 01:56:42 pm
Off grinder on PS3 work. If you see its right there.

stock 39cc saw.

Squarefile.            4.46                                       
Cut4fun.                4.47                                     
660mag.               4.64  3rd


woods ported 49cc saw.

Cut4Fun Sq 3.11
Concretegrazer Sq 3.16
Ch74 Rd 3.18
Cut4Fun Rd 3.19
Jmester Sq 3.25
Moparmyway Sq 3.26
660Mag Sq 3.31
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 15, 2016, 03:10:34 pm
Welcome Walt and do not worry I have the same issue, can not remember crap.    But I am retired and so I really do not worry about it.   
Sounds like you have nice equipment for sharpening chain.  Join the fun.   I go by 3000 FPS  but also use Mag Craft on some other forums.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on February 15, 2016, 06:48:17 pm
Welcome Walter nice to have you buddy
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on February 16, 2016, 08:47:04 am
Welcome Walt !
Great to see more dudes getting in on the chain race events !
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 16, 2016, 03:29:33 pm

Great to see more dudes getting in on the chain race events !


You got me thinking.   :D

Do they even make a 16" to 20" 404 bar for a 066?  :P

12x12 hmmmmm

404 8T

Now that is one I havent seen in a chain build off yet.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on February 16, 2016, 03:40:08 pm
Just put a .404 tip on.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 16, 2016, 03:46:18 pm
Just put a .404 tip on.

Thought of that but I have only my 1 stihl bar left I raced on my 066 16"  . I'm not messing with it, windsor speed tip.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 16, 2016, 03:53:51 pm
Gregg at left Coast Supplies has them in 20"

20″ GB Pro Top Titanium Bar GBF SN/T20-63VQ D025 Mount .404″ .063″   66DL

68LX chain .404″. 063″ – 66 drivelinks

68LX like the oregon LGX?

update - sound close   https://www.oregonproducts.com/pro/products/chain/68LX.htm

Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on February 16, 2016, 08:31:31 pm
I have a 21" large mount and a 25" GB in 404".
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on February 17, 2016, 06:59:20 am
Gregg at left Coast Supplies has them in 20"

20″ GB Pro Top Titanium Bar GBF SN/T20-63VQ D025 Mount .404″ .063″   66DL

68LX chain .404″. 063″ – 66 drivelinks

68LX like the oregon LGX?

update - sound close   https://www.oregonproducts.com/pro/products/chain/68LX.htm



Or we could just run a more common 25" bar .......... I have a few and could send you one to run for the race, save the cost of buying a bar just for the race


BUT ...............

Lets get back to the .325 race !
So which chassis has the tallest tooth with the most chip clearance ?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on February 17, 2016, 08:27:47 am
"So which chassis has the tallest tooth with the most chip clearance ?"

We come back around to "RS"?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on February 18, 2016, 01:02:15 am
Did some test cuts.
Out of the box lpx: 12.40

Gullets cleaned & bumpers removed lpx: 11.04

Gullets cleaned rs: 9.27
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 18, 2016, 01:34:19 pm
Did some test cuts.
Out of the box lpx: 12.40

Gullets cleaned & bumpers removed lpx: 11.04

Gullets cleaned rs: 9.27


Cant believe how much gullet is there on the lpx stock.

Thanks for info.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on February 18, 2016, 01:35:16 pm
Yup...
Sorta figured that.
Lol.
That's why I left muh LPX loop 72DL to use as a work chain.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on February 18, 2016, 01:36:23 pm
Did some test cuts.
Out of the box lpx: 12.40

Gullets cleaned & bumpers removed lpx: 11.04

Gullets cleaned rs: 9.27


What was your test mule?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Sierrawoodsman on February 18, 2016, 05:28:36 pm
Mailed of my chain entries today:
1 work: Stihl RS
1 work:Oregon LPX
1 Race: Stihl RS
You should get them in a few days
 ;)
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on February 18, 2016, 06:41:50 pm
Mailed of my chain entries today:
1 work: Stihl RS
1 work:Oregon LPX
1 Race: Stihl RS
You should get them in a few days
 ;)

WOW !!!
I just ordered my chain today  :-\
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 18, 2016, 07:03:09 pm
Mailed of my chain entries today:
1 work: Stihl RS
1 work:Oregon LPX
1 Race: Stihl RS
You should get them in a few days
 ;)

Dang  :o

I just received the Carlton K1L today.

I got 4 stock chains.  Carlton, Stihl, Oregon 33 and 20

3 to file stihl, oregon 20 and 33

Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on February 18, 2016, 07:57:15 pm
Did some test cuts.
Out of the box lpx: 12.40

Gullets cleaned & bumpers removed lpx: 11.04

Gullets cleaned rs: 9.27


What was your test mule?
550.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on February 18, 2016, 08:17:55 pm
On the 261...
Stock rs: 7.65
Squared rs: 6.99

The square chain was sharpend then converted & the rakers were still untouched so there high.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 18, 2016, 09:18:33 pm
I have been looking for some Stihl RS 66DL and .325 but do not seem to have any luck so far.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on February 18, 2016, 09:53:06 pm
I have been looking for some Stihl RS 66DL and .325 but do not seem to have any luck so far.
The bigger problem is finding it in .050" gage. All Stihls use .063" gage in .325 pitch. I ordered a loop at the Stihl dealer down the street and they thought I was nuts wanting it in .050" gage. I told them that .063" gage was the odd ball but they didn't believe me?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Sierrawoodsman on February 18, 2016, 11:15:49 pm
It's a bit pricey but Stihl always is:
Stihl 16" Chainsaw Chain Loop (23RS 66 Drive Links) 3637 005 0066 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00N96PWVE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awd_gAPXwb47TAQB5


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 19, 2016, 11:52:22 am
On ebay that link I gave of the 3 brands.

That guy sold me 66DL RS for  $15.40 a loop plus shipping.

Oregon was in 13's and Carlton in 14's.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 19, 2016, 12:12:26 pm
Mike he shows 68DL for $15.99. Have him make you some 66DL.  Same guy I bought mine from.  http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stihl-Chainsaw-Chain-Rapid-Super-325-Pitch-050-Gauge-23-RS-Various-Lengths-/222010745725?var=&hash=item33b0df237d:m:mPNWmDSGIRkik1O8zBKPY1A
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 19, 2016, 04:41:52 pm
I put the 325 9T on the 362xp today. I was able to get the 66DL on it. But not without removing rim and putting on as set.
I dont want to grind the heel of a new bar I was using.
So will be the 357xp or PP 365 with 325 8T.  I like to be able to swap the chains pretty quickly.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on February 19, 2016, 06:42:28 pm
LMK abt bringing over the 357?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on February 20, 2016, 09:06:37 am
My stihl dealer has the 325" 050" in odd lengths. They don't sell very much Oregon chain but they do have it.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 20, 2016, 10:59:06 am
I do not think the Stihl dealer here has even heard of it let alone have any around.  If it is not in one of their books forget it.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 20, 2016, 11:05:30 am
LMK abt bringing over the 357?

The 362xp and 6800i can go back.  Their to nice to be on mu shelves. ;)

Thanks for all the help Jim.  Who would have thunk I would have needed some of my old saws (not the 6000i) after all these years.

Lets wait till the 346 set up shows up to put on the 357.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on February 20, 2016, 11:43:34 am
+1
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on February 20, 2016, 11:54:16 am
I have been looking for some Stihl RS 66DL and .325 but do not seem to have any luck so far.

I do not think the Stihl dealer here has even heard of it let alone have any around.  If it is not in one of their books forget it.

I ordered 2 loops for me ............ if you cant find one, let me know and I will just grab another or send you one of the two I get
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 20, 2016, 04:14:13 pm
I have been looking for some Stihl RS 66DL and .325 but do not seem to have any luck so far.

I do not think the Stihl dealer here has even heard of it let alone have any around.  If it is not in one of their books forget it.

I ordered 2 loops for me ............ if you cant find one, let me know and I will just grab another or send you one of the two I get

Thanks but I bought one of the ones that Kevin was showing on ebay.   It should work ok.   It was 68DL but I can change that to 66.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 20, 2016, 06:04:21 pm
Roger I might have some stihl 325 tie straps if you need. Would have to check. been years since I had to break any stihl 325 down for folks.

Jason received the 346 drum etc today. Thanks

Walt received your 3 chains today.  Something told me to stop cutting the bag open with scissors  :o. Good thing as I was cutting your prepaid bag too. 

I will say you are on top of your info on each chain  8).  My hats off to ya on that alone. 
I was so impressed I showed the wife. As she knows I been doing this stuff for awhile now and never seen this done like this.  Top notch.

Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 20, 2016, 06:41:17 pm
Thanks Kevin but I have some Stihl tie straps for .325.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 21, 2016, 12:07:30 pm
I made up another loop of 33LG to try and square file with the file left over from the PS chain build off.

I forgot something once I was set up to file. My 365 didnt have a chain break.  So couldnt hold chain still like I do with brake and screwdriver.

Now that I am seating here typing this. My dumbazz  :-[ remembers I had a 330 chain break set up in one of my poulan bins.  ::)

I ended up with 110DL of 33LG left over after the 2 66DL.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: OPEwear on February 22, 2016, 10:16:48 pm
I'd like to pitch in a PRIZE chainsaw t-shirt for this. I'll donate one of the $21.95 short sleeve t-shirts as a prize from http://opewear.com/product-category/short-sleeve-tshirts/ (http://opewear.com/product-category/short-sleeve-tshirts/) if you want to be able to offer a prize. We can even print "Cut4fun Chain Build Off March 2016" on the back for ya.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on February 22, 2016, 10:27:15 pm
Welcome and good first post.

I'm sure the winner would like a fancy Tee Shirt.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 22, 2016, 10:33:37 pm
Yes that is very nice.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on February 23, 2016, 06:36:44 am
I'd like to pitch in a PRIZE chainsaw t-shirt for this. I'll donate one of the $21.95 short sleeve t-shirts as a prize from http://opewear.com/product-category/short-sleeve-tshirts/ (http://opewear.com/product-category/short-sleeve-tshirts/) if you want to be able to offer a prize. We can even print "Cut4fun Chain Build Off March 2016" on the back for ya.

WOAH !!!
Now I am going to break out a new file for this race

I hope I have time to make a race chain ............. too bad there aint a prize for each of the two categories
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 23, 2016, 12:49:25 pm
I'd like to pitch in a PRIZE chainsaw t-shirt for this. I'll donate one of the $21.95 short sleeve t-shirts as a prize from http://opewear.com/product-category/short-sleeve-tshirts/ (http://opewear.com/product-category/short-sleeve-tshirts/) if you want to be able to offer a prize. We can even print "Cut4fun Chain Build Off March 2016" on the back for ya.

Wow Thanks.

Now I have a question for you. ;)   Is this for the 1st overall fastest chain? 

We have a Race and Work class. The fastest chain from the group no matter which group it comes from right?  It will be the race class most chain likely like it has been the last 2 rds, but ya just never know.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: OPEwear on February 23, 2016, 02:51:04 pm
Yeah, the #ChainsawTshirt can go to whoever you want, but I'd say Fastest Chain Wins! Fingers crossed for the workin' class guy!

What would be printed on back?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 23, 2016, 03:01:48 pm
Yeah, the #ChainsawTshirt can go to whoever you want, but I'd say Fastest Chain Wins! Fingers crossed for the workin' class guy!

What would be printed on back?

Ideas guys?

Chain Build off  325 RD#3 Champion?  Winner?  Leave out 325? Leave out rd3?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 23, 2016, 03:09:31 pm
I'd say Fastest Chain Wins! Fingers crossed for the workin' class guy!



Top 3 rd 1 and 2 R and W

RD1
race    work
4.01   4.31
4.21   4.39
4.31   4.49

RD2
race   work
2.69   3.11
2.89   3.16
2.95   3.18


Work just a tad behind on each as they should be. ;)
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 23, 2016, 03:22:41 pm
Yeah, the #ChainsawTshirt can go to whoever you want, but I'd say Fastest Chain Wins! Fingers crossed for the workin' class guy!

What would be printed on back?

Ideas guys?

Chain Build off  325 RD#3 Champion?  Winner?  Leave out 325? Leave out rd3?

I like (Chain Build off Champion)
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on February 23, 2016, 05:20:46 pm
Yeah, the #ChainsawTshirt can go to whoever you want, but I'd say Fastest Chain Wins! Fingers crossed for the workin' class guy!

What would be printed on back?

Ideas guys?

Chain Build off  325 RD#3 Champion?  Winner?  Leave out 325? Leave out rd3?

I like (Chain Build off Champion)

 I like that to.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on February 24, 2016, 08:03:23 am


I like (Chain Build off Champion)

I agree ...........
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 24, 2016, 01:32:16 pm


I like (Chain Build off Champion)

I agree ...........

add 2016 somewhere
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on February 24, 2016, 01:34:59 pm


I like (Chain Build off Champion)

I agree ...........

add 2016 somewhere

Even better !!!
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on February 24, 2016, 06:02:12 pm
Seems the only .325RS I can source locally is .063.
May have to order a loop...
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 24, 2016, 06:56:58 pm
I like that Kevin.   Chain Build Off Champion 2016.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 24, 2016, 07:08:00 pm
Plus I still will make the Race and Work chain winners their own 325 winner badges.

PS RD 1 and 2. They have to be small for side badges under usernames like the little chainsaws badges.

Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 24, 2016, 07:12:46 pm
Seems the only .325RS I can source locally is .063.
May have to order a loop...


Might ask Scott Kunz aka treemonkey or Cale aka bloodontheice

Just some other ideas
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 27, 2016, 08:43:52 am
@Hedgerow    adding in shipping makes it a little pricey  http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-OEM-Oilomatic-Stihl-Rapid-Super-Saw-Chain-Part-23RS-66-/400811860071?hash=item5d523fa067:g:VsUAAOSwQJhUcNZn
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: OPEwear on February 27, 2016, 09:44:24 am
"Chain Build Off Champion 2016"
But other build offs occurred in 2016. Would it be better to id which one this winner won? ???
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 27, 2016, 10:08:11 am
"Chain Build Off Champion 2016"
But other build offs occurred in 2016. Would it be better to id which one this winner won? ???

We ran RD2 in 2016. 

Maybe

Chain Build Off Champion
    RD3 .325 2016

or

Chain Build Off Champion
    .325 RD3 2016
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on February 28, 2016, 09:25:12 pm
Where is the best place to purchase this RS chain ?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on February 28, 2016, 09:47:25 pm
I went to the Stihl Dealer and they had to order it for $30. It came in two days.

Cut got his from a guy on the Internet for closer to $15. I think there is a link back up the thread somewhere?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 29, 2016, 08:31:47 am
Where is the best place to purchase this RS chain ?

Guy I bought from on ebay sold out of the 66.

Here is another place for a few bucks more. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-OEM-Oilomatic-Stihl-Rapid-Super-Saw-Chain-Part-23RS-66-/400811860071
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on February 29, 2016, 11:43:54 am
Where is the best place to purchase this RS chain ?

Guy I bought from on ebay sold out of the 66.

Here is another place for a few bucks more. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-OEM-Oilomatic-Stihl-Rapid-Super-Saw-Chain-Part-23RS-66-/400811860071

Can your setup run a 67?
I found an old lpx with some missing cutters in .325 .050 67.
Might be able to send that one.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: OPEwear on February 29, 2016, 01:30:54 pm
Contestants:
I'm thinking about a "caption" for the front of the chainsaw shirt that would suit the contest.

A winner is certainly one who "made the grade", or one who "made the cut" as seen on this shirt here http://opewear.com/product/short-sleeve-t-shirt-3/ (http://opewear.com/product/short-sleeve-t-shirt-3/) don't ya think?  ???

I think this caption suits the contest for the front of the chainsaw tee.
Image:
(http://opewear.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/I-Made-The-Cut.jpg)

Please let me know.

The back of it will be

Chain Build Off Champion
    RD3 .325 2016

Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on February 29, 2016, 03:13:10 pm
I apologize as much as I would like to do another chain . I am not set up for anything after moving . I am going to withdrawl from this chain event. Someone else is going to be last lol
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 29, 2016, 04:34:11 pm
Where is the best place to purchase this RS chain ?

Guy I bought from on ebay sold out of the 66.

Here is another place for a few bucks more. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-OEM-Oilomatic-Stihl-Rapid-Super-Saw-Chain-Part-23RS-66-/400811860071

Can your setup run a 67?
I found an old lpx with some missing cutters in .325 .050 67.
Might be able to send that one.

050? 

1st choice would be break and make 66DL.

2nd choice send it if 67dl  and if to long and cant adjust it out,  I can break it?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 29, 2016, 10:23:31 pm
OPEwear I think that would be very nice.   I like it.   
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: dbittle on February 29, 2016, 11:02:24 pm
Ok, I got a work chain finished.  I used an Oregon LPX converted to square.  I managed to grab one of the chisel file Granberg G-107 jigs from ebay about a year ago, so that is what I used to do the conversion.  I tried to get a usable picture of one of the teeth, but didn't have much luck. 

The part I like a little bit is the proportional raker gauge I made using a 3-D printer.  It places the raker height on a 6.5 degree slope down from the working corner point of the top plate.  Reading this thread, a lot of people run their square rakers fairly high, so this might not be the correct number for this chain.  This is exactly the second square chain I have made, so it's not like I really know what I'm doing....

Anyway, most of the time I use Oregon 21BPX or Carlton semichisel to clear brush around my property.  The 6.5 degree raker gauge works well for that application. 
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 01, 2016, 08:14:01 am
Ok, I got a work chain finished.  I used an Oregon LPX converted to square.  I managed to grab one of the chisel file Granberg G-107 jigs from ebay about a year ago, so that is what I used to do the conversion.  I tried to get a usable picture of one of the teeth, but didn't have much luck. 

The part I like a little bit is the proportional raker gauge I made using a 3-D printer.  It places the raker height on a 6.5 degree slope down from the working corner point of the top plate.  Reading this thread, a lot of people run their square rakers fairly high, so this might not be the correct number for this chain.  This is exactly the second square chain I have made, so it's not like I really know what I'm doing....

Anyway, most of the time I use Oregon 21BPX or Carlton semichisel to clear brush around my property.  The 6.5 degree raker gauge works well for that application. 

Welcome to CRS and Thanks for joining in CBO. 

That has to be one of the most technical raker gauges I am seen.

Always nice having new folks join in and see and hear what their thinking on chains.

Other info:

So far there is 2 new joining in.  But we have lost at least 5 this round that dont have the time to enter.   

So it does seem to be better timing in middle of winter for folks like rd 1 was.  How do you all think on this?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on March 01, 2016, 08:40:51 am
Though I'm retired and it makes no difference for me, I once was a working family man and remember how precious your time can be.

I agree
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: dbittle on March 01, 2016, 09:24:18 am
Thanks.  The raker gauge idea came to me after I spent too much time fiddling around with angle finders and calipers. 
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on March 01, 2016, 09:40:36 am
Sorry I dropped out buddy
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on March 01, 2016, 09:46:25 am
OPEwear I think that would be very nice.   I like it.   

I agree ........ thats cool !!!

  The 6.5 degree raker gauge works well for that application. 
That is the coolest raker gauge I ever seen .............. homemade too !


So far there is 2 new joining in.  But we have lost at least 5 this round that dont have the time to enter.   

So it does seem to be better timing in middle of winter for folks like rd 1 was.  How do you all think on this?
Ive got 4 kids, 2 jobs, and no time, it really doesnt matter what time of the year for me ............. I'll figure out some way to get a chain or two in
Sorry I dropped out buddy
Dont worry Skippy, I'll probably wind up last this go around
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on March 01, 2016, 09:49:37 am
Thanks.  The raker gauge idea came to me after I spent too much time fiddling around with angle finders and calipers. 

The 6 degree raker slant is something Madsens talks about in their online sharpening guide.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on March 01, 2016, 09:51:37 am
Sorry I dropped out buddy
We enjoyed having you participate and jump back in when you have the time.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 01, 2016, 10:08:54 am
I'm not even close to filing anything yet.  Hopefully work in a 30min file job on each new work chain later on. Will just be a last min file hack job again, so dont expect much from me. It will be hit or miss and untested.

Been out of town on a shooting, fishing vacation.  ;D


Chris will miss checking out your chain to see if you get that forward slant right on both side.  Just keep trying and dont over think it.
 I am clueless to square filing and all the technical talk, but I know what I want to see , but cant get it right 99% of the time.

March 19th is a ways off......................... ;)  Wont be tested for a bit after that. Sooooooo just maybe..........
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on March 01, 2016, 11:26:04 am


Ok, I got a work chain finished.  I used an Oregon LPX converted to square.  I managed to grab one of the chisel file Granberg G-107 jigs from ebay about a year ago, so that is what I used to do the conversion.  I tried to get a usable picture of one of the teeth, but didn't have much luck. 

The part I like a little bit is the proportional raker gauge I made using a 3-D printer.  It places the raker height on a 6.5 degree slope down from the working corner point of the top plate.  Reading this thread, a lot of people run their square rakers fairly high, so this might not be the correct number for this chain.  This is exactly the second square chain I have made, so it's not like I really know what I'm doing....

Anyway, most of the time I use Oregon 21BPX or Carlton semichisel to clear brush around my property.  The 6.5 degree raker gauge works well for that application.


Neat raker gauge. The chain looks good. It should do well.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on March 01, 2016, 11:29:03 am
It's looking like I'll just get one done.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: SteveSS on March 01, 2016, 01:12:58 pm
Not sure what I'll have time for now either.  Work has me on two weeks of travel between now and the 19th.  Hopefully I can get something done next week in time to solidly lock up last place. 
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 01, 2016, 07:32:40 pm
Worked on the chain some today.   I have it broke down to 66dl now and started on the modifications.   This will take a little longer than that little 12" picco chain.   Hope to try some different things on this chain.   We will see how it goes.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 01, 2016, 08:06:15 pm
Do we need to move the send in by date back a couple weeks or a  month?   I'm all for it if it will help you folks tight with time.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 01, 2016, 09:12:26 pm
Do we need to move the send in by date back a couple weeks or a  month?   I'm all for it if it will help you folks tight with time.

I would not mind that Kevin.   I wanted to do two race chains.  One a Oregon and one the Stihl.   I was curious to see how they compared to each other.

I think a couple of weeks would be fine.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 01, 2016, 09:34:14 pm
4 weeks back would be April 16

2 weeks back would be April 2

3 weeks back would be April 9

Just tell me how much time you all need.

This is for fun and learning and is more fun the more of us that can do it. IMO
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on March 01, 2016, 10:07:19 pm
I could use extra time. I don't know if I'll be home until the deadline.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 01, 2016, 10:35:27 pm
Does not matter to me so anyone else pick a date and that will work for me.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on March 01, 2016, 11:50:06 pm
I plan on doing it again for sure
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on March 01, 2016, 11:53:12 pm
If the date was moved back I could possibly get one done .but I'm still not positive
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on March 02, 2016, 07:52:04 am
I could use all the extra time too .....as much as everyone is willing to give.... called the Stihl dealer yesterday to see if the two 66DL chains arrived yet ........... no joy
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 02, 2016, 09:12:40 am
I plan on doing it again for sure
If the date was moved back I could possibly get one done .but I'm still not positive

Chris would you be able to file one if another month?

Lets move it back a month. Hows that sound?   

April 16 for now and play it by ear. 

Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on March 02, 2016, 09:17:18 am
I will try my best thank you
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 02, 2016, 11:33:54 am
That should help all the folks with tight time schedules etc too. 

Know a few were saying they are on the road for work and wont get back till right before.

Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: dbittle on March 02, 2016, 01:56:38 pm
I dropped my chain in the mail today, mostly because I knew that if I didn't, I would put it to work on the cherry tree at the corner of my place.  Then I would have to touch it up again, and then I would use it again, and then I would miss the buildoff.  So I took it away from myself.... 
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 02, 2016, 06:35:26 pm
I dropped my chain in the mail today, mostly because I knew that if I didn't, I would put it to work on the cherry tree at the corner of my place.  Then I would have to touch it up again, and then I would use it again, and then I would miss the buildoff.  So I took it away from myself.... 

 :D 8)  will let you know when it is here.

You seen we moved the receive by date back a month so guys having to work away from home and moving can get in again.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 02, 2016, 07:15:28 pm
Sounds great to me Kevin.   April 16th it is.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on March 03, 2016, 02:32:19 am
That gives me a much better shot of getting home before the deadline.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 04, 2016, 07:26:27 pm
I dropped my chain in the mail today, mostly because I knew that if I didn't, I would put it to work on the cherry tree at the corner of my place.  Then I would have to touch it up again, and then I would use it again, and then I would miss the buildoff.  So I took it away from myself.... 

Chain arrived today. Nice info too.

Also Thank You for including the pre-stamped padded envelope to return ship with.   
Makes it a little easier in the end when taking them to P.O. for tracking etc.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Sierrawoodsman on March 09, 2016, 06:26:48 pm
I'm not going to enter any more chains. If you want to move it back a week or two I'm good with that. I would like to see a few more guys join in.


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Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 09, 2016, 06:30:21 pm
I'm not going to enter any more chains. If you want to move it back a week or two I'm good with that. I would like to see a few more guys join in.


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We moved it back to April 16th.

I still haven't started any chain filing.

Anyone else filed any that is entering? Pics?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 09, 2016, 08:03:32 pm
I have started on my chain but not done with it yet.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on March 10, 2016, 12:42:12 pm
If I file one can you break it down to what you need? I'll try to go grab the right length loop today if I can. Might have to file on the tailgate after work.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 10, 2016, 01:04:16 pm
If I file one can you break it down to what you need? I'll try to go grab the right length loop today if I can. Might have to file on the tailgate after work.

66DL 050

I think I have Stihl presets ( I need to check - could reuse for testing if had to )  but no Oregon on hand.  Unless the 76LG is the same as the 20LPX presets.

If you do this give me a heads up so I dont start running them and run into this. That way I can make ahead of time if needed.

Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on March 10, 2016, 01:13:34 pm
Anyone care to sell me a loop
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 10, 2016, 02:42:16 pm
Anyone care to sell me a loop

Cheaper then your dealers (that  ;) ) but still more then I found early on in beginning.  http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-OEM-Oilomatic-Stihl-Rapid-Super-Saw-Chain-Part-23RS-66-/400811860071

Just looked 2 more in stock = Here is the guy I bought from. $21.98 shipped http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stihl-Chainsaw-Chain-Rapid-Super-325-Pitch-050-Gauge-23-RS-Various-Lengths-/322023904026?var=&hash=item4afa1ed31a:m:mPNWmDSGIRkik1O8zBKPY1A
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on March 10, 2016, 04:09:15 pm
I'll try to get a loop that fits to start with. If not I have a 18" .325" already.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on March 10, 2016, 07:22:39 pm
Ty
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on March 11, 2016, 11:10:20 am
Loop ordered
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 11, 2016, 07:30:11 pm
I worked on my chain some more today.  It is starting to look like a race chain.   Trying to bring the A game on this one.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 11, 2016, 07:34:09 pm
Still no time here.  Working OT, then showing new owner of the 702 how to's. 
Then wife's family dropped in from out of town and we grilled out One as far as Arizona.

Good luck to you all and Thanks for entering. Always interesting to hear folks tell things they are trying.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on March 11, 2016, 09:21:19 pm
I may rig up a vise to mount to the truck somehow to take with me. Got to get busy filing this RS.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on March 13, 2016, 02:57:19 pm
So the latest date is April 16 th
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 13, 2016, 04:01:32 pm
So the latest date is April 16 th

Yep. That was was to give folks another month.   We are all flexible with this busy time of year happening.

 It is for fun, bragging rights and a forum badge Rd3 work and race. Oh and a T-shirt from OPE this time for fastest overall.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on March 13, 2016, 09:16:17 pm
No boobie prize
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 14, 2016, 01:05:05 pm
No boobie prize

That would be those other sites.  :D

Best I can do here is   ;)



Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: dbittle on March 14, 2016, 04:20:22 pm
The last place ribbon reminded me...  Did my chain make it there ok?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on March 14, 2016, 06:12:40 pm
Anyone have a loop.of 33 LG  old stock . that I could buy ?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 14, 2016, 06:41:40 pm
Anyone have a loop.of 33 LG  old stock . that I could buy ?

I posted 3 links in the other thread here you ask in. Earlier today. ;)
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 14, 2016, 06:43:54 pm
I dropped my chain in the mail today, mostly because I knew that if I didn't, I would put it to work on the cherry tree at the corner of my place.  Then I would have to touch it up again, and then I would use it again, and then I would miss the buildoff.  So I took it away from myself.... 

Chain arrived today. Nice info too.

Also Thank You for including the pre-stamped padded envelope to return ship with.   
Makes it a little easier in the end when taking them to P.O. for tracking etc.

The last place ribbon reminded me...  Did my chain make it there ok?

Posted it here and the other thread when arrived. ;)
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on March 14, 2016, 07:48:53 pm
Sorry wrong thread
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on March 14, 2016, 07:53:29 pm
That also explains why I didn't see it posted here . now I feel stupid lol
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 14, 2016, 08:03:15 pm
 ;) :D 8) :P
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 15, 2016, 06:50:19 pm
Well alright I finished off my race chain today.   I have it mounted on a Poulan 335 that I modified.   The wind is blowing like crazy today so I am going to wait for it to be a bit better outside to try it out.   Tried out some new stuff on this chain that I did not do on the last one.   We will see how it goes.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 15, 2016, 07:37:40 pm
Well alright I finished off my race chain today.   I have it mounted on a Poulan 335 that I modified.   The wind is blowing like crazy today so I am going to wait for it to be a bit better outside to try it out.   Tried out some new stuff on this chain that I did not do on the last one.   We will see how it goes.

What kind of wood do you use for testing out there? Pine of some type?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 15, 2016, 07:39:51 pm
Thats what I should have been doing today. grrrrrrrrr filing.

I was pizzed I couldnt walk out back to shoot as water is standing in the back areas as it is soaked soaked soaked.  I had to turnaround and come back as the water was going up to my ankles and I didnt put boots on.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 15, 2016, 07:49:07 pm
Well alright I finished off my race chain today.   I have it mounted on a Poulan 335 that I modified.   The wind is blowing like crazy today so I am going to wait for it to be a bit better outside to try it out.   Tried out some new stuff on this chain that I did not do on the last one.   We will see how it goes.

What kind of wood do you use for testing out there? Pine of some type?

I think I have one piece of pine left here that I can test in.   I just want to see how it feels in the wood so that I can adjust the rakers if I need to.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on March 15, 2016, 10:19:36 pm
His cants appear to be white pine.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 16, 2016, 07:03:27 pm
I ran the chain today in some pine I cut into a square.   The chain self feeds pretty nice but I noticed on the second cut that I could lean on it some without bogging down the saw.   So I think I can go a little more aggressive on the rakers.   Maybe tomorrow I will adjust them some more and then try it again.
The chain does seem to cut nice a smooth.  The game is on you guys.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on March 16, 2016, 07:26:51 pm
Any pics of your chain buddy .
I think I would have to quit if I get the black ribbon
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 16, 2016, 07:35:52 pm
Any pics of your chain buddy .
I think I would have to quit if I get the black ribbon

Sure after the cutting is over.   
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 16, 2016, 07:38:43 pm
Any pics of your chain buddy .
I think I would have to quit if I get the black ribbon

I like black ribbons. Only means I have one way to go - UP and improve. ;)

Good Luck
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on March 16, 2016, 08:11:17 pm
I've got to get a loop this week. I forgot mine at home.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 16, 2016, 09:22:02 pm
Any pics of your chain buddy .
I think I would have to quit if I get the black ribbon

It takes time you will learn. 
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on March 17, 2016, 12:32:55 am
I hope so
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 17, 2016, 03:56:26 pm
Ok I adjusted the rakers today and I like it better with how it feels in the wood.  I took a pic on what I tested it in.  I will do a little more touch up on the cutters and then ship it out.  ;D  Sorry if it is difficult to see the chain.    ::) 
 
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on March 17, 2016, 07:12:39 pm
Thanks buddy
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on March 17, 2016, 07:32:20 pm
Mine will be work chain. No tools here to do anything else if I can grab a loop. We start 7-12s next monday
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 17, 2016, 08:19:53 pm
Thanks buddy

Hey there is a T-shirt at stake here.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on March 17, 2016, 11:04:53 pm
I'm just hoping I don't get the black ribbon .lol
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on March 17, 2016, 11:35:40 pm
Good chain reading for chainsaw guys

http://www.madsens1.com/muu_barchain.htm

http://www.madsens1.com/bnc_how_wks.htm

http://www.madsens1.com/bnc_cb_angles.htm

http://www.madsens1.com/PDF/RacingTechfacts_93099.pdf

http://www.madsens1.com/bnc_depth_gauge.htm

http://www.madsens1.com/bnc_gullet.htm

http://www.madsens1.com/bnc_c2c_grind.htm

http://www.madsens1.com/bnc_beaks.htm

http://www.madsens1.com/bnc_teeth_types.htm

http://www.madsens1.com/bnc_filing_cb.htm

http://www.madsens1.com/bnc_cuttingvibration.htm
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 18, 2016, 06:26:02 pm
Those are pretty good Jim.  A lot of what I know came from some of that information you show links to there.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on March 18, 2016, 06:48:03 pm
Me2
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on March 18, 2016, 07:19:04 pm
Thanks for posting my friend
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on March 20, 2016, 09:15:47 pm
As good as I can do in a motel room.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 20, 2016, 09:43:42 pm
Looks good.   We can call it the hotel work chain.    No pun intented since you are at work in a hotel room.

I have decided on this chain that I am not going to do any hand operations on it at all.    Everything done on this chain is done with a chain grinder or a dremel. 
I want to see how it does and compares to the rest.   I did not use a file on any part of this chain.     
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on March 20, 2016, 10:06:43 pm
Hotel chain is a good one. I wish I had more time at home but this is my busy time of year.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 20, 2016, 10:22:54 pm
Hotel chain is a good one. I wish I had more time at home but this is my busy time of year.

Personally Mike I think you do a heck of a job hand filing those chains.   I do not hand file worth a crap.    But I have focused quit a bit on getting the most out of the power tools I have for chain work.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on March 21, 2016, 12:08:09 am
As good as I can do in a motel room.
Looks good Mike.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on March 21, 2016, 12:11:01 am
My chain is coming along. I could take  some pics but nobody would want to see it.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on March 21, 2016, 06:19:19 pm
Chain is in the mail. Someone can have it when it's over that uses that size bar. My 18" is 68dl.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: SteveSS on March 21, 2016, 06:35:29 pm
If you have no use for it after the contest, I'd be happy to have it back to use as a template for future chains.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 21, 2016, 07:26:55 pm
Chain is in the mail. Someone can have it when it's over that uses that size bar. My 18" is 68dl.
If you have no use for it after the contest, I'd be happy to have it back to use as a template for future chains.

You 2 just let me know when it comes time for return shipping.

SteveSS are you sending in chain?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: SteveSS on March 21, 2016, 08:30:33 pm
Yes.  I'll be sending at least one chain.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 23, 2016, 02:10:55 pm
Chain is in the mail.

Just received a chain from UPS brown truck.  Looks like it came from MO and name on top of UPS store is intials for first and last D. L.

This you Mike?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on March 23, 2016, 06:27:10 pm
Chain is in the mail.

Just received a chain from UPS brown truck.  Looks like it came from MO and name on top of UPS store is intials for first and last D. L.

This you Mike?
Yes. That's mine. Work chain only this time
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on March 24, 2016, 01:46:51 am
Ok gents it looks like this is the weekend to get these chains rolling for me .
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on March 24, 2016, 01:48:26 am
All this came too me while I am enjoy a victory dirt wolf double IPA . a road soda
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 24, 2016, 01:27:27 pm
All this came too me while I am enjoy a victory dirt wolf double IPA . a road soda

Made me look that one up. http://www.victorybeer.com/beers/dirtwolf-double-ipa/  post up in the beer thread ( in the rec off topic board ) and let us know what you think of it Chris.

I cant drink and file or put chains together for that matter.  Matter fact I cant file sober either. I just wing it. But that is life.  :-[

I been getting the itch to go in the barn today out of the wind ruin a chain myself.  :-\
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on March 25, 2016, 09:28:54 am
Sorry Kevin lol
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on March 25, 2016, 01:41:47 pm
Sorry Kevin lol

Nothing to be sorry about.  :D   I just wanted to know more about that beer.  ;D

Heck I walked in my local beer cave yesterday and walked out without anything  :o. Didnt have anything that sparked my taste buds and my fav 12 dogs of Christmas was all gone.  :'( 
Just nothing new I wanted to sample.  :(

Beer Liquor Food thread http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/rec-room/beer-food-etc/
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on March 26, 2016, 05:01:27 am
That beer does sound good. I had vanilla stout the other night for filing fluid. Hope it wasn't affecting the cutters any;)
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 26, 2016, 11:58:58 pm
Well I have the chain all packaged up and ready to ship out.   I will get to town next week and get it in the mail.   I wrapped it this time to keep it from getting
tangled up inside.   
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 28, 2016, 01:39:40 pm
I pulled this 1800's cant - hand hewn beam out for your guys faster chains.   ;)

Only beam I saved from my barn that went down in 2006.
Was going to use it for a mantel but plans have changed over waiting 10 years.

Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on March 28, 2016, 02:10:26 pm
And I just have a 4 X 6 Douglas Fur mantle that I made up in 1977?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on March 28, 2016, 02:46:30 pm
And I just have a 4 X 6 Douglas Fur mantle that I made up in 1977?

Wished I had saved a 4x6.  :(  This one is 8' 2"  long by  8.5" x 9.25"

I could have it cut  in the middle down the road to about 4 to 5 inches thick. But it isnt in the plans anymore.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on March 28, 2016, 08:23:41 pm
Well I guess I better get busy on my chains
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 28, 2016, 08:55:58 pm
I sent mine off today by priority mail.   Hope fully will take a week or so.

I ended up with a few cutters shorter than the others from hitting them by mistake with the dremel.   Oh well it still cuts ok.   Seemed to run smooth in the wood.   Since you get to see all these chains in person Kevin and have raced with them it will be interesting to see what you think.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on March 29, 2016, 04:13:40 am
I wish I had more stuff with me to work on chains. I would liked to made a race chain.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 29, 2016, 11:00:57 am
I pulled this 1800's cant - hand hewn beam out for your guys faster chains.   ;)

Only beam I saved from my barn that went down in 2006.
Was going to use it for a mantel but plans have changed over waiting 10 years.


d

That almost seems like it is a sacred piece of wood being so old.    Besides it is probably hard as a rock and would break all the cutters off of my chain.     My chain is made for soft wood like pine.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 29, 2016, 12:46:05 pm
Well I guess I better get busy on my chains

I never did get started on one either.  I think I will squarefile 1 and round file 2. Depends on how the square file one goes if I do 1 or 2 square or not.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 29, 2016, 12:51:06 pm
I pulled this 1800's cant - hand hewn beam out for your guys faster chains.   ;)

Only beam I saved from my barn that went down in 2006.
Was going to use it for a mantel but plans have changed over waiting 10 years.


d

That almost seems like it is a sacred piece of wood being so old.    Besides it is probably hard as a rock and would break all the cutters off of my chain.     My chain is made of soft wood like pine.

I actually hit a 1" round 1' long metal object inside one of the beams in 06.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/OHbluebird/Rescue%20Mission/DSCF0004.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/OHbluebird/media/Rescue%20Mission/DSCF0004.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/OHbluebird/Rescue%20Mission/DSCF0013.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/OHbluebird/media/Rescue%20Mission/DSCF0013.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 30, 2016, 06:49:07 pm
Roger your chain arrived today.


Started filing my square entry.  Not happy with the 1st 4 cutters already. Dont have the side forward lean I like.  Plus the file I used on the PS CBO started chattering on the 4th cutter. 
Not good at all. Will be a last place chain or bottom feeder and slower then stock, calling that right now.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 30, 2016, 07:30:02 pm
Ok thanks Kevin for the heads up.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on March 30, 2016, 08:08:01 pm
I will start my soon . if I don't it will not be done
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 30, 2016, 08:32:42 pm
I will start my soon . if I don't it will not be done

chop chop.   ;)

I been slacking here and before you know it  April 16th will be here.  :o
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: jmester on March 30, 2016, 10:05:22 pm
Are the chains do by the 16th of April. .325 .050 66 DL? I have not been following this thread much.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 30, 2016, 10:15:52 pm
Are the chains do by the 16th of April. .325 .050 66 DL? I have not been following this thread much.

That is correct.    Need to be there by April 16th.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: jmester on March 31, 2016, 06:19:30 am
I will do my best to get something up there. Been busy with work and its time to start mowing grass.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 31, 2016, 02:00:57 pm
Before I fubarred the 1st 4 cutters, this is all I do to try square filing.

Learned I need to remove the top cover with hand guard so I can reset the PP330 chain brake I put on to lock chain, so I can roll the chain through for next cutters.  :-[

Notice screwdriver at bottom  between bar and chain. Takes up any slack after I tighten chain tight on bar and then lock brake.



Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 31, 2016, 03:02:05 pm
Pretty slick.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 31, 2016, 03:28:00 pm
Pretty slick.

 :o

Roger I just opened your chain box. First thing that fell out was  :o. 

Thank You so much for the donation.  This will pay for this rds cants.  Oh and shipping back ;)

Your chain is WOW again  8). I wish I could make a chain look like that.  :'(  Now if it cuts as sweet as it looks, folks be in trouble in the race chain category.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 31, 2016, 03:36:30 pm
Pretty slick.

 :o

Roger I just opened your chain box. First thing that fell out was  :o. 

Thank You so much for the donation.  This will pay for this rds cants.  Oh and shipping back ;)

Your chain is WOW again  8). I wish I could make a chain look like that.  :'(  Now if it cuts as sweet as it looks, folks be in trouble in the race chain category.

You are welcome and thanks for the feedback.  I tried everything I could think of on this chain.   The only thing I was not sure of was where to put the rakers.    Like last time I just eye balled them.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 31, 2016, 04:05:25 pm
Note to self.  When you put the chain brake cover on the 365 or others with hand guard on top cover.  You cant get the 4th bolt out of cover as it was behind clutch cover flag arm. Cant reset chain brake due to hand guard.

Was fun removing the chain brake cover with it set on the drum tight.   :-[ ::)
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on March 31, 2016, 06:34:54 pm
This chain isn't very fun to work with
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 31, 2016, 07:40:45 pm
This chain isn't very fun to work with

? whats different and whatcha you got going on? Cant be any worse then filing the PS.  Seems about the same for me doing the RS even with a chattering file now.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 31, 2016, 08:16:52 pm
This chain has more drive links and takes a lot more time to do other wise like Kevin said same ole same ole.

Glad I got it done I think I have come down with some bug going around.   Got it from the wife and she has had 3 weeks now.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on April 01, 2016, 02:37:40 am
I think next a 404 would be nice. Maybe 21" loops. I can't get into the small chains since I don't run them.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 01, 2016, 12:36:46 pm
I was just curious on the PS and 325 chains as what could be done with them. 

I just always remember that 325 RS that was done RSL for a 290 and was like 52% faster then the RM3 junk I took off. Plus the muffler mod and retune was 21% on that saw.  Over 70% with stock porting with just muffler mod, square chain and retune. ;) 
This was all done back in racesaws days. So 08-2010
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 01, 2016, 03:09:05 pm
It is what it is. Got in a groove today and about 25mins in a work chain with just the front cutters hit again. Not perfect by any means.
Even thought about bringing down the rakers a hair from what I seen. But gambled and left them a little high.

Think I will go ahead and square file the 33LG small cutter 325 chain too.

 Then just round file the Oregon 20LPX. I want to see from stock as I dont like how it is done to round cleaned up.

Then I will have a stock RS, LPX, LG, C1L to compare to.

Anyone do up a Carlton in square or round?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: jmester on April 01, 2016, 03:40:08 pm
Got my chains today. Hope to have some time tomorrow or Monday to get them done.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 03, 2016, 08:15:48 am
Went alittle better like this.  Remove the poulan 365 top cover with hand guard so I could reset the poulan 330 covers chain brake.

Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on April 04, 2016, 07:44:00 pm
I have a Oregon chain done but no testing .
I have a stihl chain and a Carlton chain to do too . but may not have enough time
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 04, 2016, 08:21:41 pm
I have a Oregon chain done but no testing .
I have a stihl chain and a Carlton chain to do too . but may not have enough time

I still have 2 to do too LG and LPX. Both of us need to get chop chop. ;)

April 16th is still 12 days. 

You going to round or square the Carlton?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 04, 2016, 08:23:22 pm
Pretty slick.

 :o

Roger I just opened your chain box. First thing that fell out was  :o. 

Thank You so much for the donation.  This will pay for this rds cants.  Oh and shipping back ;)

Your chain is WOW again  8). I wish I could make a chain look like that.  :'(  Now if it cuts as sweet as it looks, folks be in trouble in the race chain category.

You are welcome and thanks for the feedback.  I tried everything I could think of on this chain.   The only thing I was not sure of was where to put the rakers.    Like last time I just eye balled them.

I didnt check them. PM me where you put them.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 04, 2016, 09:00:30 pm
Crap somehow I started calling Carlton C1L above.  It is K1L. My bad


Looks like the RS is a runaway for the fastest stock chain picked of the 4.  http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/chain/fastest-325-050-stock/


stihl RS
    11 (84.6%)
oregon 33LG
    0 (0%)
oregon 20LPX
    2 (15.4%)
carlton K1L
    0 (0%)
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 04, 2016, 09:38:13 pm
I did not measure the rakers I have no idea where they are set at.   I only eye ball them and then did a test cut.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on April 06, 2016, 02:44:13 pm
Windy as all get out outside. So weighing my choices for inside jobs.

Hmmmm install a ice maker from basement up, kitchen faucet and lines, tub drain, shower faucet set up, file a chain for build off.  ;D

Guess where I am leaning.  ;)
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on April 06, 2016, 07:05:38 pm
Looked at the RS as I switched in the LG. Seen some  right side cutters I didnt  like at all. Had the wrong lean angle.  Going to leave it though and untested.
Remember what I had told you about Chris aka skippy on your last one.

started and finished the 33LG in about 15mins and tried something totaly different in square.  Angles are  ::) :P  Went against everything you see folks show and read about. Just hope it out cuts the stock 33LG.

File was so worn it was missing edge in places.   :D 

Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on April 06, 2016, 07:08:29 pm
 The stock 325 chains to be tested with the work and race 325 chains. Top to bottom 23RS 33LG 20LPX K1L

Pretty sure that was the order.

Correction 23RS 33LG K1L 20LPX



Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on April 07, 2016, 10:38:36 pm
You plan to run these the end of the month?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 08, 2016, 12:56:57 pm
You plan to run these the end of the month?

Hope to have it done within 2 weeks for sure.  I am spying a day the week after. IF I can make time for it.

Looking at a nice warmer day that I can spend most of the day without rain.   

Takes me awhile setting up. Marking each cant. Video taping each chain. Then changing out each chain and do it again.  Also making sure to keep a list while grabbing the chains of who, type, how, etc before installing chains. Then keeping them all organized so I keep the right chains with the right owners to send back later.
Then uploading all those videos etc.

Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on April 08, 2016, 10:48:33 pm
You plan to run these the end of the month?

Hope to have it done within 2 weeks for sure.  I am spying a day the week after. IF I can make time for it.

Looking at a nice warmer day that I can spend most of the day without rain.   

Takes me awhile setting up. Marking each cant. Video taping each chain. Then changing out each chain and do it again.  Also making sure to keep a list while grabbing the chains of who, type, how, etc before installing chains. Then keeping them all organized so I keep the right chains with the right owners to send back later.
Then uploading all those videos etc.
No doubt
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 10, 2016, 09:47:36 am
Try and have your chains sent in by April 16.   

Lot of folks that were in have gone MIA due to work.   Thanks for the heads up in PM's.

Next one will be like Rd#1 was timeline wise.

Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on April 11, 2016, 08:22:32 am
I know its getting close, but I hope to have mine in the mail by Friday
I've got a week of chains ahead of these ............... but I think I have enough time
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: chainsawlady on April 11, 2016, 12:30:03 pm


Also I was hoping 325 050 66DL myself.
Been in 3/8 ones  already in different classes of builds.  But 3/8 can be done again.

My reason and thinking most of us have not done up 325. I havent done one but have had one good one before given to me.  Friend did it  and it was 50% faster square using stihl RS chain to make RSL, compared to a RM3 chain that was on a 290.
Randy said on a 261 stock, RS 325 to RSL square was 38% faster for him.


I have in saw chain inventory;
  .325 - .050 chain
       20'     20AP Oregon
       20'     DI Homelite
       12'     33LG Oregon
   .325 - .063 chain
       19'     19 Oregon
    chainsawlady
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 11, 2016, 12:42:32 pm


Also I was hoping 325 050 66DL myself.
Been in 3/8 ones  already in different classes of builds.  But 3/8 can be done again.

My reason and thinking most of us have not done up 325. I havent done one but have had one good one before given to me.  Friend did it  and it was 50% faster square using stihl RS chain to make RSL, compared to a RM3 chain that was on a 290.
Randy said on a 261 stock, RS 325 to RSL square was 38% faster for him.


I have in saw chain inventory;
  .325 - .050 chain
       20'     20AP Oregon
       20'     DI Homelite
       12'     33LG Oregon
   .325 - .063 chain
       19'     19 Oregon
    chainsawlady

There it is 12' of 33LG listed.  She was one I was telling you had it listed here. ;)
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 11, 2016, 12:44:29 pm
@Sierrawoodsman  33LG above ^.  I have bought from her in past. Great person to buy from.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 11, 2016, 03:27:02 pm
Thinking about round filing a 33LG from its 5/32  to 3/16 to see how it does compared to the 3/16 cutter stock chains.   
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on April 14, 2016, 06:52:43 pm
All my chains are about done, being I added a 4th chain in LG33 to round file too.  Just want to see how it does going from the 5/32 cutter to 3/16 like the other 325chains. I had to stop on it today so not finished.

Did do and finish the 20LPX today and what a pita just round filing. Had to file it twice round to do what I was wanting to try round filed. Should have squared filed it as it would have been easier.

All my chains are new out of box chains with just the front of cutters refiled again.  Just like last round. Cutters not back where they start cutting the best near rear rivet and like race chains are made from. 

Square filed 33LG is something new I wanted to try and bet my round filed one will prob out cut it.  It isnt right at all, but wanted something different from the norm.

Square files RS is going to be a turd. Looked at it today again. It is just fubarred and way way off.

Just hoping to beat stock chains at this point and highly doubt it.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on April 15, 2016, 12:01:01 am
Be interesting to see the results. I just wonder if this stuff will clog with chips.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on April 15, 2016, 07:05:53 am
I wont have any chains done before the weekend ............... sorry guys.

Lots going on in my neck of the woods, just havent had enough time to do all I want.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 15, 2016, 01:03:51 pm
I wont have any chains done before the weekend ............... sorry guys.

Lots going on in my neck of the woods, just havent had enough time to do all I want.

Its just the wrong time of year IMO. I should have thought this though but we were rolling after the rd1 rd2.   

Oh well least there is a few new guys and some last rounders in still. 

I'll be happy just to see how the 4 stock chains run back to back. Being this is a chain I dont use much. But do sell to a few here.   Matter fact just sold 2 loops of 74DL RS today.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 15, 2016, 04:18:45 pm
I'll do another.

 8)

Your box arrived today.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on April 15, 2016, 07:23:19 pm
I'll do another.

 8)

Your box arrived today.

I hope there was something in it.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: jmester on April 16, 2016, 07:01:50 am
No chains from me this time. Not enough time to get everything done. Sorry. Maybe a round 2 in the fall would work.

Mike from my experience with 26 and 23RS chain it cuts very well. I do think that clipped heals will help with chip flow. They will roll a big chip. But the saw that is being used should not really be a problem it will pull right through. On smaller saws like a 350/346 husky or 026/260 stihl you can tell it slows a bit it the softwood.

Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 16, 2016, 11:05:57 am
I'll do another.

 8)

Your box arrived today.

I hope there was something in it.

Didnt have time to check. Was heading out to races in Attica.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 17, 2016, 09:09:38 pm
I been under the weather a bit. But it is shaking off. 

I dropped my ole 2 car garage this weekend. So I need to get it cut up and removed before I can get into any chain testing. Got alot of plants that were starting to come up under the walls now.

Then I will install the 346 set up ( Thank You jmester ) on the 357xp ( Thank You 660magnum ) and put the 8T 325 rim on it and then tune to my mix.

Not many chains in this round and my bad of going with the adrenaline  off the last round. We should have waited to winter again.

I am thinking there is is about 12-15 chains and 4 stock chains. I never counted so just guessing. Will update with list when I set them out.

Thanks to those that was able to enter.

Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 17, 2016, 09:35:19 pm
Yep with spring time coming on people are getting to be busy.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on April 18, 2016, 12:25:50 am
We'll have plenty of time to do one this winter now. Be able to debate on what to do
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on April 19, 2016, 02:00:39 pm
Looked for the 346 set up to put on the 357 and I seemed to have hidden from myself.  :-[ :-\ ::) 
Man I hate getting older and more forgetful where things are put.  :P
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on April 19, 2016, 04:59:23 pm
Found the 346 set up mixed in with the chains still in the package.  8)

Put everything on the 357xp with 8T 325 rim.  After trying 3 different bars. There isnt enough tensioner to allow me to install the 66DL chains with the 8T on this saw.   :o

I tested fitted the 66DL and 8T on my PP365 with no problems. But something about the Husky isnt letting me be able to get the chain on the bars with 8T.

So anyone care if I put on the 7T 325 on the 357xp?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 19, 2016, 06:45:19 pm
Found the 346 set up mixed in with the chains still in the package.  8)

Put everything on the 357xp with 8T 325 rim.  After trying 3 different bars. There isnt enough tensioner to allow me to install the 66DL chains with the 8T on this saw.   :o

I tested fitted the 66DL and 8T on my PP365 with no problems. But something about the Husky isnt letting me be able to get the chain on the bars with 8T.

So anyone care if I put on the 7T 325 on the 357xp?

That is fine with me Kevin.   It not like there is a 100 dollars at stake here.    Just some fun.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 19, 2016, 08:22:04 pm
I still want to know why a 8T 325 on the 357 makes the 66DL to short. Looks like plenty there.

If there is room at the tail mount to rim area. I may just use a used bar and drill another bar tensioner hole and try 8T again.

The PP365 had plenty of adjustable room using same.

Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Sierrawoodsman on April 20, 2016, 04:16:01 pm
I wouldn't try to Jerry-rig it too much. 7-T is fine for me. That's what I plan to run with the chains when they come back on my 550 anyway.


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Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 20, 2016, 08:13:52 pm
Another wall cut up and burned.

Time to remove the metal roofing to start tearing that wood apart and burn.  Then the last side wall.

Sooner I get this all done the sooner I get to testing
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on April 21, 2016, 04:33:26 pm
Cant work on pulling metal roof in ran. Soooo

Went through everything to check. 66 drive link chain.  66DL K095 bar. 
With tensioner all the way back the bar mount end almost touches rim with 8T on it.  I can forcibly make the 66dl chain go on. But I am not going to fight each chain to do this in the chain build off where I am swapping chains quickly to get back to cutting.

So drilling another bar tensioner hole isnt a option due to space. But grinding the bar rear mount area shorter would be to fit more easily. But I'm not going to at this point. So 7T 325 is on the 357 now.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on April 21, 2016, 09:05:01 pm
I just thought of something. I'm curious to see.

After I get the ole garage project broken down and burned up.

Going to take a ole piece of cant from rd1 and run the stock K1L on the 357 with 7T, then run the PP365 with same chain with 8T. Will make video.

Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on April 23, 2016, 01:49:38 pm
Getting closer. Here is the hold up on my end that has priority right now.  http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/rec-room/old-garage-down/new/#new

Most of you all understand why I am going to test the 357 and that 7T to the pp365 and 8T right? 

I had a pm saying that is apple and oranges and whats it going to prove.  Different saws different gears with same chain.

IMO If the pp365 pulls the chain better with the 8T I was going to let folks decide if we should use the pp365 for testing with the 8T. Instead of the 357 with 7T.

I was figuring the 357 with 8T would have out cut the pp365 with 8T. But with 7T on the 357 it will be giving up chain speed in the pine cants IMO.

See what I am thinking now?

So I will test and see. If the 7T on the 357 cuts better and faster then the pp365 with 8T. Then 357 with 7 it is being it is such a PITA to change chains with a 8T on it.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 23, 2016, 04:33:18 pm
Go for it Kevin.   Which ever one works best we will use.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on April 23, 2016, 07:49:07 pm
That sounds like a good idea to me. If you can get the 8 on the Poulan to run faster than the 357 I'd say that's the one to use.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 24, 2016, 04:29:18 pm
I ran them today.  Ran the 357 first then pp 365 2nd.

The 357 with 7 was 1 sec faster each cut in the 2 fastest cuts of 4. So 357 7 it is.

I could feel the difference in the cuts easily. 

Also right before the pp365 test cuts while warming engine the dang chain came off. I checked chain and there was 2 noticeable dubbed corners.  Might had a little to do with chain but I could still feel a difference in the motors and the way they pulled.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 24, 2016, 05:25:08 pm
Bluegill confirmed my findings on this for me today. Weird you can do a 8T 325 in stock chain lengths on the 346 but not the 357 359 saws.

Just tried 8T .325 16" Sugi bar, 66 DL Oregon chain on a 359/357. No go, too tight. Looks like a 68 DL chain would be just right, but I don't have one in .325.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 26, 2016, 10:26:37 am
Got all the wood burned last night. So testing the chains is the next thing on my list.

As soon as I recoup and get a nice day to spend all day with the chains uninterrupted. I will geter done.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 26, 2016, 10:36:38 am
I hope you get a nice day.   It is snowing like a son of a gun here this morning.   
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 26, 2016, 10:55:17 am
I hope you get a nice day.   It is snowing like a son of a gun here this morning.   

I remember that crap when I lived in MT into the first week of June.

You just keep it. ;)

Right now no rain but standing water from the storm that came through last night, this morning.

Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on April 26, 2016, 12:06:36 pm
Trying to get the new chain additions usernames right. Username of the chain that belongs to Bittle?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on April 26, 2016, 12:16:21 pm
I went out and went ahead and put a running order together and wrote them down to save me a little time.

Going to run the 4 stock chains. ( touched up the K1L 2 cutters ever so lightly that got dinged on the throw by pp365 testing warm up  ).
Then run my 4 work chains.
Then the 3 race chains. As I should have a feel for the saw and be in a running groove by then. I really want to see what those race chains have to offer  :o. They be looking sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.  ;D
Then 4 more work chains in sq.

Will make 3 cuts. Remember on the timing the 2 fastest cuts only for time. The slowest is thrown out of the 3.

If I see I have hit a knot by mistake or cut out I will make a 4th or even 5th cut if needed. But only the 2 fasted are kept for times.

Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on April 26, 2016, 12:31:02 pm
Trying to get the new chain additions usernames right. Username of the chain that belongs to Bittle?

Figured it out. dbittle   @dbittle
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on April 27, 2016, 03:11:41 pm
Beautiful day for testing.  ;D 8)

Just stepped in to grab some waters. 

The 4 stock chains are done.

The stock carlton cut just like it did the other day on the 357. Rough and felt slow.
LG33 was next and couldnt believe how smooth and fast it felt compared to above even with smaller cutter.
RS was rougher  then the LG but felt fast. Not as smooth as the LPX or LG in cuts.
LPX was smooth and felt fast.

Video and times will tell the tell. But what I got from this. I wont buy any more carlton 325 chains.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on April 27, 2016, 03:39:46 pm
Would be testing the race chains right now. But like a dummy I forgot to record my rd filed lg33  :-[. So I had to come in and check all the videos to make sure.  :'(
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on April 27, 2016, 03:40:44 pm
I do have the feel for this stock 357 and the 325 7T chains now though. Should have some good passes with the race chains.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on April 27, 2016, 04:15:58 pm
Got my last work and other folks race chains run.  Will do the next run of work chains next.

Setting here I noticed my pinky was stingy pretty good. Look at it and one of those racechains sliced it like a razor for 3/4".
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on April 27, 2016, 05:21:21 pm
Done and uploading.

I had to run Dbittle a 2nd time too. Forgot to hit record.

Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on April 27, 2016, 05:22:59 pm


Will make 3 cuts. Remember on the timing the 2 fastest cuts only for time. The slowest is thrown out of the 3.




Folks timing same rules as last time.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on April 27, 2016, 05:24:43 pm
Cool. I'll be sitting in the house this evening.
Title: CBO rd3 videos
Post by: Cut4fun on April 27, 2016, 05:25:29 pm
Going to put all the videos here. Once I get them all here I will merge with the other thread.
Title: Re: CBO rd3 videos
Post by: Cut4fun on April 27, 2016, 06:26:05 pm
https://youtu.be/FIiJMsutD7Q
https://youtu.be/8103YSnhVRQ
https://youtu.be/CNKRZ9n4K3o
https://youtu.be/0Ma4HsGgxWA
Title: Re: CBO rd3 videos
Post by: Cut4fun on April 27, 2016, 06:28:31 pm
https://youtu.be/Ri6QPzVbFHg
https://youtu.be/SNVX3XzmM_c
https://youtu.be/YZB28-mW8i4
Title: Re: CBO rd3 videos
Post by: Cut4fun on April 27, 2016, 06:30:43 pm
https://youtu.be/B-K_CbnyfW8
https://youtu.be/Afx3BR9-ekw
https://youtu.be/gmb6qOqWs7E
https://youtu.be/dBkOBxOCxwQ
https://youtu.be/DQqQNmsVSjc
https://youtu.be/bMCfAhErmZ0
https://youtu.be/qjKBCKCFiXM
https://youtu.be/c0R-0wnFg8Y
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on April 27, 2016, 07:44:33 pm
Stock
k1L 3.52
LG33 3.13
RS 2.29
LPX 2.38

Race
Concretegrazer 2.28
3000fps 2.06
Sierra woodsman 2.78

Work
Cut4fun LPX 2.25
Cut4fun RS 2.60
Cut4fun LG33 2.56
Cut4fun round Lg33 2.62
mdavlee 2.35
Dbittle 2.34
Sierra Woodsman LPX 2.50
Sierra Woodsman RS 2.48
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Sierrawoodsman on April 27, 2016, 08:04:45 pm
Looks like a take-home the coveted black ribbon! I know what I did wrong with the race chain, But as for the work chains I have no idea. when I ran the stock LPX at home vs. my work chains was 20% faster in the wood. I was in before I submitted the chains. So I'm totally lost....


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Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on April 27, 2016, 08:11:03 pm
Different woods will be different.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 27, 2016, 08:24:41 pm
Different woods will be different.

Yep different stick of wood and different saw will change outcomes too.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 27, 2016, 08:27:40 pm
Looks like a take-home the coveted black ribbon! I know what I did wrong with the race chain, But as for the work chains I have no idea. when I ran the stock LPX at home vs. my work chains was 20% faster in the wood. I was in before I submitted the chains. So I'm totally lost....


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Stock chains were tested on one end of the 8' pine cant. Your race one was in the middle of cant 3'-4' with other race chains. The 2 work were at about the 6' area on other end.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Sierrawoodsman on April 27, 2016, 08:28:23 pm
Congrats 3000! Nice work!


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Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 27, 2016, 08:35:15 pm
Looks like HL Supply  T-shirt will be going to Roger for overall.

WTG Roger

Thanks to all that entered. 

Roger unless you or other timers show us different for work and race. I will be making you a little badge for Race winner here too.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 27, 2016, 08:36:20 pm
Thanks folks.  Good Night.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on April 27, 2016, 09:20:35 pm
Thanks for doing it Kevin. Wish I had more time to work on a chain for this one. I guess not too bad to file a loop in a motel and not run it.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Sierrawoodsman on April 27, 2016, 09:23:14 pm
Yes thank you Kevin.


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Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 27, 2016, 09:30:17 pm
I am still doing some timing and will post when I am done.   So far it pretty much matches what Mike has.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: dbittle on April 27, 2016, 09:35:00 pm
That was fun to be a part of.  My buddies at work checked in a couple of times to see if the results were in.  I was feeling pretty good until I looked a little closer at the stock chain results.  Stock RS put everybody but Cut4fun on the trailer in work chain.  So mine was only a little slower than stock.....
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 27, 2016, 10:28:01 pm
Ok Guys here are the times I got.  Timing by 3000 FPS

Stock chains.
K1L        3.58
LG33      3.23
RS          2.38
LPX         2.36

Race chains.
Concretegrazer       2.22
3000 FPS                2.00
Sierra Woodsman    2.68

Work Chains.
Cut4fun Round LPX                    2.38
Cut4fun Square RS                    2.48
Cut4fun Square LG 33                2.65
Cut4fun Round LG 33                 2.74
Mdavlee Square LPX                   2.28
DBittle  Square LPX                    2.24
Sierra Woodsman  Square LPX    2.42
Sierra Woodsman  Square RS      2.44


Timing by Mdavlee


Stock
k1L 3.52
LG33 3.13
RS 2.29
LPX 2.38

Race
Concretegrazer 2.28
3000fps 2.06
Sierra woodsman 2.78

Work
Cut4fun LPX 2.25
Cut4fun RS 2.60
Cut4fun LG33 2.56
Cut4fun round Lg33 2.62
mdavlee 2.35
Dbittle 2.34
Sierra Woodsman LPX 2.50
Sierra Woodsman RS 2.48


Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 27, 2016, 10:37:35 pm
Looks like HL Supply  T-shirt will be going to Roger for overall.

WTG Roger

Thanks to all that entered. 

Roger unless you or other timers show us different for work and race. I will be making you a little badge for Race winner here too.

Once again thanks for all the Work Kevin.   It was fun and interesting for me.    I got to try some things on this chain that I did not do last time.
Thanks to all you guys that entered it was great to see how it all turned out.   
If you want to post a picture of my chain go right ahead.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 27, 2016, 10:38:39 pm
That was fun to be a part of.  My buddies at work checked in a couple of times to see if the results were in.  I was feeling pretty good until I looked a little closer at the stock chain results.  Stock RS put everybody but Cut4fun on the trailer in work chain.  So mine was only a little slower than stock.....

Dbittle I think you did pretty good according to the timing I got.   Way to go.   The second cut that Kevin made with your chain was really quick. 
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 27, 2016, 10:42:08 pm
Thanks for doing it Kevin. Wish I had more time to work on a chain for this one. I guess not too bad to file a loop in a motel and not run it.

I would say not bad at all.   I cannot hand file worth a crap that is why I always enter the race chain and just square ground it this time.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Sierrawoodsman on April 27, 2016, 10:56:43 pm
Looks like HL Supply  T-shirt will be going to Roger for overall.

WTG Roger

Thanks to all that entered. 

Roger unless you or other timers show us different for work and race. I will be making you a little badge for Race winner here too.

Once again thanks for all the Work Kevin.   It was fun and interesting for me.    I got to try some things on this chain that I did not do last time.
Thanks to all you guys that entered it was great to see how it all turned out.   
If you want to post a picture of my chain go right ahead.



Yes please post a good picture or two
since we got Rogers permission. I'd like to know where I went wrong. I'm going to Consider this a learning experience and try to do better the next go around
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Sierrawoodsman on April 27, 2016, 11:03:23 pm
Also, if anyone wants to see a picture of the losing chain that won the black ribbon I've got some dandies! Lol


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Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on April 27, 2016, 11:25:49 pm
Congratulations Roger!

Thanks for putting this on again Kevin.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 27, 2016, 11:28:45 pm
Congratulations Roger!

Thanks for putting this on again Kevin.

Thanks.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on April 27, 2016, 11:30:08 pm
Also, if anyone wants to see a picture of the losing chain that won the black ribbon I've got some dandies! Lol


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Sure! Here's some of mine.

Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Sierrawoodsman on April 27, 2016, 11:34:18 pm
You definitely deserve that win. That chain has a hell of a lot of work into it. Nice work!


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Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 27, 2016, 11:42:57 pm
Nice looking work on your chain concretegrazer.    You definitely brought on some good competition.

Did you hand file your chain.   It looks good. 
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on April 27, 2016, 11:45:39 pm
Also, if anyone wants to see a picture of the losing chain that won the black ribbon I've got some dandies! Lol


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Sure! Here's some of mine.
Odd I thought I put two different pictures up. Here's the other one I hope.

Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on April 27, 2016, 11:48:03 pm
You definitely deserve that win. That chain has a hell of a lot of work into it. Nice work!


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Thanks.  Wasn't my time evidently.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Sierrawoodsman on April 27, 2016, 11:48:45 pm
That is wicked looking! Nice work concretegrazer. At least I know what I'm up against now and where I should go from here.


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Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on April 27, 2016, 11:54:53 pm
Nice looking work on your chain concretegrazer.    You definitely brought on some good competition.

Did you hand file your chain.   It looks good.

Used a dremel on the chassis work and hand filed the cutters.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 28, 2016, 12:19:51 am
Nice looking work on your chain concretegrazer.    You definitely brought on some good competition.

Did you hand file your chain.   It looks good.

Used a dremel on the chassis work and hand filed the cutters.

Nice file work.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 28, 2016, 12:20:42 pm
That was fun to be a part of.  My buddies at work checked in a couple of times to see if the results were in.  I was feeling pretty good until I looked a little closer at the stock chain results.  Stock RS put everybody but Cut4fun on the trailer in work chain.  So mine was only a little slower than stock.....

@dbittle

Roger has your 2 fastest avg cuts faster then mine. ;)   Mike showed me faster.  I really thought in feel during the cuts yours was fastest work chain in the cuts.

I will time off my computer later. I bet you get the work badge.  8)
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 28, 2016, 12:25:41 pm
Roger do you have pics of your chain? I can try, but I get terrible pics. 

Rogers has alot of what I was used to seeing on my race chains back in the day. 

concretegrazer chain looked over the top in WOW factor.  I'll PM you in a bit.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 28, 2016, 12:42:38 pm
That was fun to be a part of.  My buddies at work checked in a couple of times to see if the results were in.  I was feeling pretty good until I looked a little closer at the stock chain results.  Stock RS put everybody but Cut4fun on the trailer in work chain.  So mine was only a little slower than stock.....

@dbittle

Roger has your 2 fastest avg cuts faster then mine. ;)   Mike showed me faster.  I really thought in feel during the cuts yours was fastest work chain in the cuts.

I will time off my computer later. I bet you get the work badge.  8)

@dbittle you won the WORK chain class.

Fastest 2 cuts 2.23 and 2.43.       

Mine was 2.53 and 2.47
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on April 28, 2016, 12:57:52 pm
I will make Roger and dbittle little badges like the last 2 rds that will stay with them on this site as a race or work winner and rd3.

If you look bottom left of my name you will see one.

UNDER
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Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 28, 2016, 01:10:12 pm
I didnt look for this on the race chains as it is all allowed. But did any of the race chain guys stone the side of cutters?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Sierrawoodsman on April 28, 2016, 01:16:00 pm
Nope. I was thinking about stoning but didn't have a clue as to what I was doing or how to do it and couldn't find much on any site covering it. The only thing I did do is clip the tail, but I didn't see anybody do that either from the race chain pics I've been seeing


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Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 28, 2016, 01:54:48 pm
Roger do you have pics of your chain? I can try, but I get terrible pics. 

Rogers has alot of what I was used to seeing on my race chains back in the day. 

concretegrazer chain looked over the top in WOW factor.  I'll PM you in a bit.

I do not have any pics of the chain.   I can take some when you send it back.   I will have to use my wife's camera, the I have and use will not do a
close up.   

I thought concretegrazer's chain looked pretty awesome also. 
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 28, 2016, 02:01:16 pm
I didnt look for this on the race chains as it is all allowed. But did any of the race chain guys stone the side of cutters?

What I did to my chain.
I clipped the back of the cutter.
I tunneled the back of the cutter a little bit.
I thinned the outside edge of the top plate of the cutter.
I did a square grind on a Simington grinder.
I thinned the rivet heads.
I ground down the top edge of all the links of the chain at an angle to make go through the kerf better.
I cleaned up all the gullets and the links.
I did take a stone and used it a little not much on the top and side of the cutter.   
I never used a file on any of it. 
The rakers I shortened and thinned the inside edge only.
I also dropped the rakers a little.   I only eye balled them.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 28, 2016, 02:19:43 pm
I'll take a pic off all 3 side by side.  Might not show much but will try.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: HLSupply on April 28, 2016, 03:00:45 pm
I didnt look for this on the race chains as it is all allowed. But did any of the race chain guys stone the side of cutters?

What I did to my chain.
I clipped the back of the cutter.
I tunneled the back of the cutter a little bit.
I thinned the outside edge of the top plate of the cutter.
I did a square grind on a Simington grinder.
I thinned the rivet heads.
I ground down the top edge of all the links of the chain at an angle to make go through the kerf better.
I cleaned up all the gullets and the links.
I did take a stone and used it a little not much on the top and side of the cutter.   
I never used a file on any of it. 
The rakers I shortened and thinned the inside edge only.
I also dropped the rakers a little.   I only eye balled them.


Nice Work @3000 FPS! That's why you are the "Overall" winner.

OPEwear.com (http://opewear.com/product/short-sleeve-t-shirt-3/) will make your PRIZE TEE SHIRT. 
The back of the shirt you see at http://opewear.com/product/short-sleeve-t-shirt-3/ will say,
"Chain Build Off Champion
RD3 .325 2016"
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 28, 2016, 03:07:40 pm
L to R   CG  3000  SW chains. best I can do here.

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Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 28, 2016, 03:14:27 pm
Hey @HLSupply    Thank You for offering up to the overall winner the T-Shirt.

Also if you notice ;) we now can like every post here too.

Along with way more choices.

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Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: HLSupply on April 28, 2016, 03:18:19 pm
HLSupply is just the messenger about the prize. OPEwear.com happily donated the Tee Shirt. ;)
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 28, 2016, 03:20:39 pm
HLSupply is just the messenger about the prize. OPEwear.com happily donated the Tee Shirt. ;)

Do you own OPEwear too?

Are you excanuck?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 28, 2016, 03:49:54 pm
I didnt look for this on the race chains as it is all allowed. But did any of the race chain guys stone the side of cutters?

What I did to my chain.
I clipped the back of the cutter.
I tunneled the back of the cutter a little bit.
I thinned the outside edge of the top plate of the cutter.
I did a square grind on a Simington grinder.
I thinned the rivet heads.
I ground down the top edge of all the links of the chain at an angle to make go through the kerf better.
I cleaned up all the gullets and the links.
I did take a stone and used it a little not much on the top and side of the cutter.   
I never used a file on any of it. 
The rakers I shortened and thinned the inside edge only.
I also dropped the rakers a little.   I only eye balled them.


Nice Work @3000 FPS! That's why you are the "Overall" winner.

OPEwear.com (http://opewear.com/product/short-sleeve-t-shirt-3/) will make your PRIZE TEE SHIRT. 
The back of the shirt you see at http://opewear.com/product/short-sleeve-t-shirt-3/ will say,
"Chain Build Off Champion
RD3 .325 2016"

Hey thank you very much.   I take an XL.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: HLSupply on April 28, 2016, 04:22:00 pm
You're very welcome. Please visit http://opewear.com/product/short-sleeve-t-shirt-3/ and open the COLOR Drop Down and tell me which color you want. Use the wording that is in the drop down so I don't make a mistake.

ACTUALLY please reply to ExCanuck's other questions on that other forum where you are @Mag Craft.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 1manband on April 28, 2016, 05:44:55 pm
looking at the photos made me realize how much fun i missed out on.  should have made the time to get in.

nice work everyone!

Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 28, 2016, 05:54:07 pm
looking at the photos made me realize how much fun i missed out on.  should have made the time to get in.

nice work everyone!



Well hope fully there will be another build off in the future.     It seems spring time a lot of the guys got real busy.    Maybe next winter.
I have never done a 3/8ths race chain before.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on April 28, 2016, 06:19:18 pm
Badges made and sent.  Look under your usernames under badges.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 28, 2016, 07:16:41 pm
That is pretty cool Kevin that you can do that.    Thanks for the Badge.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: dbittle on April 28, 2016, 11:13:41 pm
That is pretty cool Kevin that you can do that.    Thanks for the Badge.
Kevin

Thanks much for the badge and for putting on the build-off.  I had fun filing the chain in the garage.  My youngest was proud of me for doing well, and the other two daughters were completely unimpressed (teenagers.....).  My wife said I did good though, so that's worth something.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Sierrawoodsman on April 29, 2016, 12:22:01 am
Thank you Kevin for putting this on. I learned an awful lot and will be bringing my "A" game on the next go round.


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Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on April 29, 2016, 12:45:26 am
We should have plenty of time for deciding what to do and when to do it towards fall.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 29, 2016, 01:10:50 pm
I will post here when  I start getting chains and 346 parts packaged for returns.  Who and when sent.   

Son just got in from college for summer, so looking at starting next week on it.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 29, 2016, 06:39:22 pm
Yep no hurry Kevin.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on April 30, 2016, 01:32:07 pm
They are all packed up and ready to be shipped back to owners.  Hope to ship early in next week.

I must say you guys that file square turn out some nice looking cutters. I never could make a square cutter look good without a guide.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 02, 2016, 03:16:40 pm
All chains and the 346 parts shipped back today.

Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: HLSupply on May 03, 2016, 09:19:27 am
Yes, I am ExCanuck, and I own OPEwear.com (http://opewear.com/).  8) My Web marketing company - YWPD (http://ywpd.net/) is on contract with HLSupply, so I manage their accounts here and there.

"OPE Wear" will happily kick in a prize for your next contest too. Keep in touch.

CHEERS! (You did great work on this contest.)
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on May 05, 2016, 07:45:29 pm
I got my chain back today.   It is still as sharp as when it left.    I want to look it over and see if there is any weak areas that I might have over done it on.
Thanks Kevin.   
Title: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Sierrawoodsman on May 05, 2016, 08:28:00 pm
Got mine back too Kevin. Thank you. I'm going to try running it against that .325" practice race chain I've been working on.


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Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 05, 2016, 08:59:21 pm
The 357 has 3/8 7T and a stihl 18" RS chain back on it.  I have a piece of the cant left over and thinking about putting 3 cuts on video with it.
The chain looks pretty new with little use. Maybe not even touched up from looking at it.

Just for chits to see.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on May 05, 2016, 10:38:21 pm
Do it
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on May 05, 2016, 10:58:26 pm
That 18" chain was never used except by you if you used it.  If I did use it - it was when I was with you. I haven't run the saw since that winter day we ran it together.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on May 06, 2016, 12:09:29 am
The 357 has 3/8 7T and a stihl 18" RS chain back on it.  I have a piece of the cant left over and thinking about putting 3 cuts on video with it.
The chain looks pretty new with little use. Maybe not even touched up from looking at it.

Just for chits to see.

Trying to make us all look bad? :D
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 07, 2016, 12:22:16 pm
Do it
The 357 has 3/8 7T and a stihl 18" RS chain back on it.  I have a piece of the cant left over and thinking about putting 3 cuts on video with it.
The chain looks pretty new with little use. Maybe not even touched up from looking at it.

Just for chits to see.

Trying to make us all look bad? :D

I just ran it. Overlook the 1st cut when it was cold and I stuck it in the cut  ::) :P.  Did 4 more cuts after that. See what the 2 fastest times  are?  Stock 3/8 Stihl RS stock chain looks new with little use. 7T rim.

Didnt seem all that fast to me.  Cant has been on the stand and rained on a bit since testing. Who knows will see soon.

Uploading

https://youtu.be/H4-2anKbQgc
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 07, 2016, 12:34:46 pm
I just timed the 4 good cuts with 3/8. You going to be surprised by 325 chains with the little 7 gear.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Sierrawoodsman on May 07, 2016, 02:08:46 pm
How about that, looks to me like the .325" was faster. Do you think the 2" longer bar playing a factor?


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Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 07, 2016, 07:52:13 pm
How about that, looks to me like the .325" was faster. Do you think the 2" longer bar playing a factor?




Every test I have ever ran was 3/8 faster in past. All were ran same day in same wood.   It wont change my mind at all.

This was same wood but what 2 weeks later setting out. The 18" 3/8 chain didnt feel right to me either as in self feeding etc.  Could be one of those off RS chain out of the box.
The last time I ran this saw in testing if I recall right, I ran my 16" and 3/8 on it when I tested in 12" against ported and stock 346's etc.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on May 07, 2016, 08:16:28 pm
I don't remember ever running that 18" bar? Feel free to run it through your USG if you want to?
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 07, 2016, 08:22:27 pm
I don't remember ever running that 18" bar? Feel free to run it through your USG if you want to?

I'm done Jim.  The chain  will cut fine for firewood.  I could just tell something didnt seem right in the cut.

Got 5 325 chains I need to do for guys waiting and more honey do's. 
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on May 07, 2016, 10:10:27 pm
3/8" did look a little slower. Probably nowhere near as smooth either.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on June 18, 2016, 01:08:14 pm
I got home from vacation.    I had gone to California to see my brother and was gone for 3 weeks.   Way to long.
Well while I was gone I received the T-shirt for the chain build off round 3.   Here are couple of pics.   Never mine the old guy wearing it.
Pretty cool.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 18, 2016, 01:36:38 pm
That is to freaking cool.  8)

Nice!

That right there will put a smile on your face wearing it.  ;D
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on June 18, 2016, 02:08:15 pm
Yep I agree Kevin.   I also like the Poulan green.
Title: Re: 325 Rd 3 Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on June 19, 2016, 11:22:13 am
That is a nice shirt