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Title: CS-590 throwing alot of oil but not on the chain and bar
Post by: echoer on July 24, 2016, 02:40:13 pm
Hi All,

Just bought a new CS-590, started right up an runs fine. But here is the issue, the oil is dripping all around the case and even smoking on the exhaust but not running down the bar and chain.

Any ideas and help is needed.

thanks
Title: Re: CS-590 throwing alot of oil but not on the chain and bar
Post by: echoer on July 24, 2016, 02:46:30 pm
Also to be noted, i havent used it to cut any thing yet. This is just the initial startup and break in phase.
Title: Re: CS-590 throwing alot of oil but not on the chain and bar
Post by: echoer on July 24, 2016, 04:55:58 pm
Here is a picture with the oiler turned all the way down to its lowest setting
 :-\ :-\
Title: Re: CS-590 throwing alot of oil but not on the chain and bar
Post by: sweepleader on July 25, 2016, 01:42:28 pm
I don't know anything about that saw in particular so remember that part please. 

I would clean it off dry, using carb cleaner or some such drying solvent and an air blower.  Fill the oil tank and let is sit for a few minutes to see if it leaks like that.  Might want to use some thinner oil than normal bar oil.    Then I would start it up for just a few seconds, maybe 10-15.  Shut off and look for oil.  If nothing, run it a few seconds longer, maybe 30.  The leak should be obvious at that point.  If there is oil all over, clean it up again and run shorter time.  Good luck.  :)
Title: Re: CS-590 throwing alot of oil but not on the chain and bar
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 25, 2016, 02:08:05 pm
When you lift chain up out of bar groove is there oil on the drive links?
Title: Re: CS-590 throwing alot of oil but not on the chain and bar
Post by: echoer on July 25, 2016, 10:29:03 pm
sweepleader
I have let the saw sit and it doesnt leak by itself. I did clean it and took the bar off and ran it and it seems it is coming out only from the port but once the channels are full the oil never makes it in the bar.

cut4fun
There seems to be a little oil in there but most of it is in the housing and dripping down. It doesnt come out of the tip like my other echo-490 and makes a like line.
Seems the bar doesnt have a hole at the bottom and that causes all the oil to run in the housing.
Title: Re: CS-590 throwing alot of oil but not on the chain and bar
Post by: pete on July 26, 2016, 03:28:58 am
If it were me and as you say its a new saw take it back to the dealer should be a warranty problem
Title: Re: CS-590 throwing alot of oil but not on the chain and bar
Post by: sweepleader on July 26, 2016, 12:28:44 pm
Yeah, dealer, I missed the part about brand new.   Your other description suggests you might have the bar plates in wrong, oiler working but blocked by the bar plate from reaching the bar.  Might check to make sure the oil holes in the mount, bar plate and bar all line up.  If you don't see the problem right away, have the dealer take a warranty look.
Title: Re: CS-590 throwing alot of oil but not on the chain and bar
Post by: echoer on July 26, 2016, 07:23:22 pm
Here is the dilemma , bought it on eBay, so no dealer warranty.
 :(
Title: Re: CS-590 throwing alot of oil but not on the chain and bar
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 26, 2016, 08:11:24 pm
echo 590 IPL http://www.ereplacementparts.com/echo-cs590-c25812001001-c25812999999-598cc-timber-wolf-chain-saw-parts-c-35043_35970_447267.html?page=2

WAGS See if your inner and outer bar plates are in order. Check for missing outer bar plate on clutch cover. Check your bar oiler hole for placement on the bar mount on case.

(http://www.ereplacementparts.com/images/echo/CS-590_(C25812001001_-_C25812999999)_WW_2.gif)

Title: Re: CS-590 throwing alot of oil but not on the chain and bar
Post by: echoer on July 26, 2016, 08:59:06 pm
Everything seems in place, so now I am wondering if this is how much oil CS-590 saws throw out. Is it the norm?
Title: Re: CS-590 throwing alot of oil but not on the chain and bar
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 26, 2016, 09:02:33 pm
Looks just like the amount of bar oil supplied by poulan 365 I have been running the last few days. Even comes out of the area between the clutch cover and where crankcase meets.

You might be worry about nothing.

You do have a inner bar plate that goes over this right?

(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6033.0;attach=18818;image)
Title: Re: CS-590 throwing alot of oil but not on the chain and bar
Post by: echoer on July 26, 2016, 09:22:37 pm
Yes, the inner plate is there. I took it off just to get the pictures.
Oil comes out everywhere but like I said not on the bar and chain itself. My 490 makes a perfect line of oil under and in front of the bar.
If I tip the saw/bar vertically down then the bar oil starts to touch the muffler and I have smoke everywhere.
Title: Re: CS-590 throwing alot of oil but not on the chain and bar
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 27, 2016, 12:36:04 pm
Should be doing like your 490 IMO.

I dont own or work on  590  to know.  Someone here in another 590 thread was talking about a 590 oiling. Search for that thread in this board.
Title: Re: CS-590 throwing alot of oil but not on the chain and bar
Post by: echoer on July 27, 2016, 06:12:50 pm
The other thread/post was about it smoking while cutting, ended up being a dull chain.
I
 dropped it off to the local dealer today, for him to check and advise if repairs are warranted..
Title: Re: CS-590 throwing alot of oil but not on the chain and bar
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 27, 2016, 09:06:28 pm
Wonder about your oil line connections to oiler etc.

(http://www.ereplacementparts.com/images/echo/CS-590_(C25812001001_-_C25812999999)_WW_7.gif)
Title: Re: CS-590 throwing alot of oil but not on the chain and bar
Post by: SawTroll on July 29, 2016, 06:20:34 am
Are you sure that the bar is the correct mount, and the oil output from the oiler is hitting the oiler hole of the bar properly?
Title: Re: CS-590 throwing alot of oil but not on the chain and bar
Post by: echoer on August 12, 2016, 03:13:11 pm
Took it to the dealer finally and he fired it up
Said this is fine, just how much oil this saw throws. :-\
Title: Re: CS-590 throwing alot of oil but not on the chain and bar
Post by: jmester on August 12, 2016, 08:14:57 pm
One thing to remember is that if you are running the saw out of the wood it will throw oil all over the place the chips help to soak up any extra oil. The fine saw dust also soaks up the oil as well.
Title: Re: CS-590 throwing alot of oil but not on the chain and bar
Post by: sharkey on August 28, 2016, 07:53:12 am
Open up the oiler hole in the bar with a carbide bit.  Make it twice the size it is now. 
Title: Re: CS-590 throwing alot of oil but not on the chain and bar
Post by: echoer on September 07, 2016, 09:27:37 pm
So I am back, no longer oil issue. But the chain, i am cutting black walnut and the chain gets dull very quickly.

Any tips?