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Title: Craftsman 358.350201 46cc 20"
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 16, 2017, 03:14:02 pm
Craftsman 358.350201 358350201 46cc 20" dark green


Guy at work was given this and ask me to fix. Dropped off today. He couldnt get it to start for him.
Poulan craftsman 46cc like a 295 4620.
Seems like a muffler deflector might be missing. Ya think.   :P
Title: Re: Craftsman 358.350201 46cc 20"
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 16, 2017, 04:52:13 pm
Saving info.

4 chains only 3 go with saw to sharpen.
clutch cover with hand brake set up.
fuel line and fuel filter.
muffler shield deflector.
Title: Re: Craftsman 358.350201 46cc 20"
Post by: Eccentric on March 17, 2017, 05:06:14 am
Kevin does that green 358.350201 Craftsman/Poulan saw have a chromed bore and bare piston, or a bare bore and a chromed piston?  I've seen both types among the various red, grey, green, and black Craftsman variants in this series.  I'm starting to compile an index of the Craftsman #'s for each type (bare bore or chromed bore).
Title: Re: Craftsman 358.350201 46cc 20"
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 17, 2017, 10:47:46 am
That one c-racked me up.    Let me see what is that funny smell.    Oh must be the fuel.
Title: Re: Craftsman 358.350201 46cc 20"
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 17, 2017, 10:58:49 am
Kevin does that green 358.350201 Craftsman/Poulan saw have a chromed bore and bare piston, or a bare bore and a chromed piston?  I've seen both types among the various red, grey, green, and black Craftsman variants in this series.  I'm starting to compile an index of the Craftsman #'s for each type (bare bore or chromed bore).

Will check.  I looked at piston and bore but was only checking for scoring and didnt pay attention.
Title: Re: Craftsman 358.350201 46cc 20"
Post by: Cut4fun on March 17, 2017, 12:54:48 pm
Just looking for a new or used big dang deflector shield for this.
So far only muffler kits.

Muffler kit 530071495 $12.50 plus shipping

Pic upside down

(https://www.rcappliancepartsimages.com/dbImages/i/00004586/Muffler-530071495-01402899.jpg)
Title: Re: Craftsman 358.350201 46cc 20"
Post by: Cut4fun on March 17, 2017, 01:00:00 pm
craftsman 2.8  IPL http://www.searspartsdirect.com/model-number/358350201/0247/1503220.html


Found it listed on the sears site. 

Chainsaw muffler backplate 530055765  $ 4.39 plus shipping

#17

(http://c.searspartsdirect.com/lis_png/PLDM/P0205010-00002.png)

This part is compatible with the following machines:

    Poulan 2775 (Type 3) - Poulan Chainsaw - Engine Assembly Type 3
    Poulan 2775 (Type 4) - Poulan Chainsaw - Engine Assembly Type 4
    Poulan 2900 (Type 3) - Poulan Chainsaw - Engine Assembly - Type 3
    Poulan 2900 (Type 4) - Poulan Chainsaw - Engine Assembly - Type 4
    Poulan PP295 (Type 3) - Poulan Pro Chainsaw - Engine Assembly Type 3
    Poulan PP295 (Type 4) - Poulan Pro Chainsaw - Engine Assembly Type 4
    Poulan PP4620AV - Poulan Pro Chainsaw - Engine Assembly
    Poulan PP4620AVHD - Poulan Pro Chainsaw - Engine Assembly
    Poulan PP4620AVL - Poulan Pro Chainsaw - Engine Assembly
    Poulan PP4620AVX (952802169) - Poulan Pro Chainsaw (2012-01) - ENGINE
    Poulan PP4620AVX - Poulan Pro Chainsaw - Engine Assembly

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358350240 Chainsaw
358.350203 Chainsaw
358348231 Chainsaw
944411461 Chainsaw
358350210 Chainsaw
944414460 Chainsaw
358348232 Chainsaw
944411462 Gas Chainsaw
358350202 Chainsaw
358348230 Chainsaw
358350201 Chainsaw
358350203 Chainsaw





Title: Re: Craftsman 358.350201 46cc 20"
Post by: Cut4fun on March 17, 2017, 01:06:01 pm
(http://assets.partstree.com/web4/photos/580/530055765/566fbe0812061/full.png)
(http://assets.partstree.com/web4/photos/580/530055765/566fbe06580ce/full.png)
Title: Re: Craftsman 358.350201 46cc 20"
Post by: old 040 on March 19, 2017, 06:04:13 am
I picked up a clean earlier Sears variant off C-list a few months back, still in very nice original condition, I think it's a type I or maybe type 2, it really does run well for what it is and will see action on occasion, I think the earlier mufflers are less choked up than the later versions, sellers pics, it's been cleaned up since..... ;D
Title: Re: Craftsman 358.350201 46cc 20"
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 19, 2017, 09:30:57 am
Agree on the mufflers. Wish this one had the black 2 piece early one.  old 040 I would bet yours shown would have a chrome bore?  Any info?

Aaron,  this one I have here is Bare bore, Chrome piston


Had to order a muffler kit to get the oem deflector. Deflector new is nla. Couldn't find a used one by itself.
If it were mine I would have closed off the rear exit and opened up front and or side for exit
Title: Re: Craftsman 358.350201 46cc 20"
Post by: old 040 on March 19, 2017, 10:39:31 am
Agree on the mufflers. Wish this one had the black 2 piece early one.  old 040 I would bet yours shown would have a chrome bore?  Any info?

Aaron,  this one I have here is Bare bore, Chrome piston


Had to order a muffler kit to get the oem deflector. Deflector new is nla. Couldn't find a used one by itself.
If it were mine I would have closed off the rear exit and opened up front and or side for exit
I'll pop the muffler today and take a looky look..... ;)
Title: Re: Craftsman 358.350201 46cc 20"
Post by: old 040 on March 19, 2017, 11:01:14 am
Just went out and took a look, looks to be chrome bore, I can clearly see the machining lines in the piston, model number on mine is 358.351191, it doesn't say if it's a type 1 or 2 and I'm not sure what the difference is between those two..... ???
Title: Re: Craftsman 358.350201 46cc 20"
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 19, 2017, 12:40:36 pm
Just went out and took a look, looks to be chrome bore, I can clearly see the machining lines in the piston, model number on mine is 358.351191, it doesn't say if it's a type 1 or 2 and I'm not sure what the difference is between those two..... ???

Your decal type is why I thought it would be chrome bore on yours.

If you look at the sticker on back of tank and the numbers listed. Do you see a 1 or 2 ending like on mine shown?  Not that it matters IMHO.
Top row  last # after PH
Title: Re: Craftsman 358.350201 46cc 20"
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 19, 2017, 12:45:05 pm
Just saving info  craftsman 358.351191 358351191 46cc Chrome bore 
Title: Re: Craftsman 358.350201 46cc 20"
Post by: old 040 on March 19, 2017, 01:24:51 pm
Just went out and took a look, looks to be chrome bore, I can clearly see the machining lines in the piston, model number on mine is 358.351191, it doesn't say if it's a type 1 or 2 and I'm not sure what the difference is between those two..... ???

Your decal type is why I thought it would be chrome bore on yours.

If you look at the sticker on back of tank and the numbers listed. Do you see a 1 or 2 ending like on mine shown?  Not that it matters IMHO.
Top row  last # after PH
My decal does not look like yours, no 1 or 2 shown anywhere, it only has the Sears address, the model and serial number of the saw, and what looks like the part number for the decal or the part number for the complete saw if there was one?
Title: Re: Craftsman 358.350201 46cc 20"
Post by: old 040 on March 19, 2017, 01:50:04 pm
I have yet to come across the 50cc version in this series, the PP310...... ;)
Title: Re: Craftsman 358.350201 46cc 20"
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 19, 2017, 02:33:06 pm
Well that is about 1.5hrs I wont get back.   Bad new for owner of the free saw. 

Sure wish I hadnt ordered that :-X  muffler kit already.   :(

All 4 crankcase bolts were real loose.  Tighten them and bearings felt fine.  Ran the fuel line, adjust carb.  Piston looked fine. 
But the bearings must be fubbarred as I was tuning the bearings got rough to point of locking at times turning over on restarts.   :(

Title: Re: Craftsman 358.350201 46cc 20"
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 19, 2017, 02:34:19 pm
Just went out and took a look, looks to be chrome bore, I can clearly see the machining lines in the piston, model number on mine is 358.351191, it doesn't say if it's a type 1 or 2 and I'm not sure what the difference is between those two..... ???

Your decal type is why I thought it would be chrome bore on yours.

If you look at the sticker on back of tank and the numbers listed. Do you see a 1 or 2 ending like on mine shown?  Not that it matters IMHO.
Top row  last # after PH
My decal does not look like yours, no 1 or 2 shown anywhere, it only has the Sears address, the model and serial number of the saw, and what looks like the part number for the decal or the part number for the complete saw if there was one?

I know different then this one I am working on.
Yours reminds me of the sears best decals which always seemed to be chrome bore saws.

I'm not a fan of this series myself so dont go out of my way looking for the bigger cc ones.
Title: Re: Craftsman 358.350201 46cc 20"
Post by: old 040 on March 19, 2017, 02:57:18 pm
Just went out and took a look, looks to be chrome bore, I can clearly see the machining lines in the piston, model number on mine is 358.351191, it doesn't say if it's a type 1 or 2 and I'm not sure what the difference is between those two..... ???

Your decal type is why I thought it would be chrome bore on yours.

If you look at the sticker on back of tank and the numbers listed. Do you see a 1 or 2 ending like on mine shown?  Not that it matters IMHO.
Top row  last # after PH
My decal does not look like yours, no 1 or 2 shown anywhere, it only has the Sears address, the model and serial number of the saw, and what looks like the part number for the decal or the part number for the complete saw if there was one?

I know different then this one I am working on.
Yours reminds me of the sears best decals which always seemed to be chrome bore saws.

I'm not a fan of this series myself so dont go out of my way looking for the bigger cc ones.
I'm not really a fan of this series either, I only bought it because it was cheap and right around the corner from me, first of this series I've owned, and like I said earlier, it does run well for what it is and will come out on occasion.... ;)
Title: Re: Craftsman 358.350201 46cc 20"
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 19, 2017, 07:27:26 pm
Well that is about 1.5hrs I wont get back.   Bad new for owner of the free saw. 

Sure wish I hadnt ordered that :-X  muffler kit already.   :(

All 4 crankcase bolts were real loose.  Tighten them and bearings felt fine.  Ran the fuel line, adjust carb.  Piston looked fine. 
But the bearings must be fubbarred as I was tuning the bearings got rough to point of locking at times turning over on restarts.   :(



Talked with owner this evening.  Going to show him his saw and issue.  Then he is going to take home a like new looking craftsman 3.0 49cc I set up for him with 16" and new square filed stihl rs chain.  Already gone through this summer just waiting on new owner.

Tried to explain the differences of the metal cased saw over this plastic clamshell saw.  Wish he could have ran them back to back to see the real differences in the cut.

Taking the 46cc on trade for my labor and parts and putting it toward the 3.0.   


Title: Re: Craftsman 358.350201 46cc 20"
Post by: Al Smith on March 20, 2017, 04:08:40 am
Some of those little Poulan/craftsman 46 cc didn't run bad for their size .I've got one that was given to me that had and has issues .Seems to me the engine was held in place to the suspension system by 4 bolts through the bottom handle .These were wallered out allowing the engine to rock up a little bit which disconnected the oil pump ,no oil,not good .

Took me a while to sort that one out .Tapped out the holes and used the next size bolt .

Then came the seals which threw me for loop .Didn't act like seals but it was .Still haven't got around to fixing that one .Too many irons in the fire .It's on the list though which seems to be growing in length .
Title: Re: Craftsman 358.350201 46cc 20"
Post by: Chris-PA on March 22, 2017, 09:21:06 pm
The engine mounting hardware is just dumb on these - must have assigned that to some engineer fresh out of school.  While it's nice that the mounting bolts don't hold the clamshell together, there is no locking hardware on the mounting bolts.  They are those tri-lobe thread forming screws with a large diameter head, but the head binds to a shoulder bushing that is free to rotate, so it does and the screws back out.  LocTite doesn't work too well because of the tri-lobe thread profile - there isn't thread contact all the way around. 

These 46cc engines shake like heck, I suspect because they didn't change the crank and counterweights when they went to larger displacements.  Everything that isn't held down well is coming off.  When mine came loose it wrecked the oil pump.  I used 5mm helicoils in the mounting bolt holes and cap screws with LocTite - it's been solid since. 
Title: Re: Craftsman 358.350201 46cc 20"
Post by: Revpop on March 26, 2017, 03:19:22 pm
Mine shakes quit a bit when idling but smooth's out well at cutting speed.  I wonder what the nominal engine compression on these 46cc powerheads runs at?
Title: Re: Craftsman 358.350201 46cc 20"
Post by: Chris-PA on March 26, 2017, 07:37:17 pm
Mine shakes quit a bit when idling but smooth's out well at cutting speed.  I wonder what the nominal engine compression on these 46cc powerheads runs at?
The A/V is good and fools you - stick your thumb down on the top cover while you're cutting and you feel what the the other part of the saw is doing!
Title: Re: Craftsman 358.350201 46cc 20"
Post by: Revpop on February 13, 2018, 03:32:14 pm
PH1 on the EPA sticker, test cut for new bar.  358.350200

https://youtu.be/SM81b-Zhdno
Title: Re: Craftsman 358.350201 46cc 20"
Post by: Revpop on March 08, 2018, 01:45:08 pm
More 46cc stuff experimenting with changing from .325" setup to 3/8-.50" bar and chain.  First used 72 DL bar and chain but after test cuts thinking the small clutch diameter is a limiting factor more than power available.  Decided to go with 18" and 68 DL bar and chain setup and have not tested with it yet but am confident for firewood cutting.  Reason behind this is I am not especially fond of .325" chains for firewood cutting, seems like they go dull way too quickly and I have extra lying around on the 3/8" stuff I could be using on this saw.
Title: Re: Craftsman 358.350201 46cc 20"
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 03, 2020, 03:07:26 pm
Poulan 295 4620 46cc craftsman

Always wondered why this little 46cc clamshell poulan locked up years ago. Today I dug in to find out. Notice wooden dowel used to get it out. That was the 2nd one needed to finish the job.

Anyone need anything from it just holler.