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Title: Memorial Day
Post by: Cut4fun on May 27, 2012, 10:51:35 am
We must not forget why we have Memorial Day.

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Title: Re: Memorial Day weekend
Post by: Cut4fun on May 27, 2012, 10:52:18 am
This plane and crew went down at sea during the Cuban Crisis, Nov. 8 1961 on our Eastern Coast. All were lost at sea. My uncle was furthest on right.

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Title: Re: Memorial Day weekend
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 24, 2013, 02:12:31 pm
Enjoy the cook outs but lets not forget why.


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Title: Re: Memorial Day weekend
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 23, 2014, 12:28:52 pm
Copy and paste below.

TO ALL MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS AND THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES:

As we get into the 3 and 4 day holiday weekend, let us all remember the true meaning of Memorial Day is not the start of barbecues and swimming pools, but to honor those who gave the ultimate sacrifice while serving his or her country. The National Moment of Remembrance, established by Congress, asks Americans, wherever they are at 3 p.m., local time, on Memorial Day, to pause in an act of national unity for a duration of one minute. The time 3 p.m. was chosen because it is the time when most Americans are enjoying their freedoms on the national holiday. The Moment does not replace traditional Memorial Day events; rather, it is an act of national unity in which all Americans, alone or with family and friends, honor those who died in service to the United States.

God Bless Us All, and have a safe weekend.


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Title: Re: Memorial Day weekend
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 23, 2014, 12:37:43 pm
This plane and crew went down at sea during the Cuban Crisis, Nov. 8 1961 on our Eastern Coast. All were lost at sea. My uncle was furthest on right.

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My dad told me some unknown info about this that he has found out.  He talked to someone that knew his older brother very well and his brother had told them the anti sub missions were getting more and more dangerous. Guess he said they were getting lower and lower to the water and he was going to cross train into something different in the Navy. 
Title: Re: Memorial Day weekend
Post by: aclarke on May 24, 2014, 09:40:19 pm
kev, who are the gentlemen in suits and what the stuff on the ground? Looks like recovered flightsuits?
Title: Re: Memorial Day weekend
Post by: Cut4fun on May 25, 2014, 10:56:07 am
kev, who are the gentlemen in suits and what the stuff on the ground? Looks like recovered flightsuits?

Suits I have no clue.
Thats the crew that was lost in pic. 
Guessing just part of their gear they loaded up to take with them. 
Only 2 bodies were recovered at sea.  My uncle was never found.

Per my mom = The airplane and crew was lost at sea Nov 8. 1961 during the Cuban crisis. Only 2 crew members were found along with small parts of the plane.
Title: Re: Memorial Day weekend
Post by: RoyM on May 25, 2014, 12:42:54 pm
Pardon my ignorance here. What is the difference between Memorial Day and Veterans Day? We observe Armistice Day on November 11.
Title: Re: Memorial Day weekend
Post by: 660magnum on May 25, 2014, 12:53:15 pm
Memorial day is the last Monday in May

Veteran's day is formally November 11 but is sometimes observed on a Monday.

Other than that?
Title: Re: Memorial Day weekend
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 25, 2014, 01:52:21 pm
I'll give it a shot with help explaining.

Per Wikipedia.

Memorial Day is a US federal holiday wherein the men and women who died while serving in the United States Armed Forces are remembered.

Veterans Day is an official United States holiday that honors people who have served in the U.S. Armed Forces, also known as veterans.



 Armistice Day (which coincides with Remembrance Day and Veterans Day, public holidays) is commemorated every year on 11 November to mark the armistice signed between the Allies of World War I and Germany at Compiègne, France, for the cessation of hostilities on the Western Front of World War I, which took effect at eleven o'clock in the morning—the "eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month" of 1918.
Title: Re: Memorial Day weekend
Post by: RoyM on May 25, 2014, 08:46:06 pm
I am curious as to why the are separated.
Title: Re: Memorial Day weekend
Post by: 660magnum on May 25, 2014, 08:55:19 pm
Memorial day in May is to honor the ones who died in the military services

Veteran's day in November is to honor those who are or have been in the military services.
Title: Re: Memorial Day weekend
Post by: Cut4fun on May 26, 2014, 01:38:02 pm
Dug deeper.

Memorial Day  -  was formerly known as Decoration Day and originated after the American Civil War to commemorate the Union and Confederate soldiers who died in the war.
By the 20th century, Memorial Day had been extended to honor all Americans who have died while in the military service.


Veterans Day  -  U.S. President Woodrow Wilson first proclaimed Armistice Day for November 11, 1919. In proclaiming the holiday. The United States Congress passed a concurrent resolution seven years later on June 4, 1926, requesting that President Calvin Coolidge issue another proclamation to observe November 11 with appropriate ceremonies.[2] A Congressional Act (52 Stat. 351; 5 U.S. Code, Sec. 87a) approved May 13, 1938, made the 11th of November in each year a legal holiday: "a day to be dedicated to the cause of world peace and to be thereafter celebrated and known as 'Armistice Day'.

In 1945, World War II veteran Raymond Weeks from Birmingham, Alabama, had the idea to expand Armistice Day to celebrate all veterans, not just those who died in World War I. Weeks led a delegation to Gen. Dwight Eisenhower, who supported the idea of National Veterans Day. Weeks led the first national celebration in 1947 in Alabama and annually until his death in 1985. President Reagan honored Weeks at the White House with the Presidential Citizenship Medal in 1982 as the driving force for the national holiday. Elizabeth Dole, who prepared the briefing for President Reagan, determined Weeks as the "Father of Veterans Day."

U.S. Representative Ed Rees from Emporia, Kansas, presented a bill establishing the holiday through Congress. President Dwight D. Eisenhower, also from Kansas, signed the bill into law on May 26, 1954.

Congress amended this act on June 1, 1954, replacing "Armistice" with "Veterans," and it has been known as Veterans Day since

Veterans Day is not to be confused with Memorial Day; Veterans Day celebrates the service of all U.S. military veterans, while Memorial Day is a day of remembering the men and women who died while serving.
Title: Re: Memorial Day weekend
Post by: RoyM on May 26, 2014, 11:14:36 pm
Thanks for the history lesson. Interesting.
Title: Re: Memorial Day weekend
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 07, 2015, 07:14:07 pm
kev, who are the gentlemen in suits and what the stuff on the ground? Looks like recovered flightsuits?

Adam mom just found some info after digging online.  They died  Nov 8th 1961

11 Feared Dead, 2 Bodies Found
By HARRY G. SHULMAN
District Correspondent

VP-10 Mishap

BRUNSWICK - A Naval Air Station Brunswick patrol bomber with 11 men aboard plunged into the Atlantic Ocean 300 miles off the Virginia coast Wednesday. The bodies of 2 crewmen were recovered, the rest were listed as missing and presumed dead. The twin-engine Neptune P2V was returning to the local base after completing Anti-Submarine Warfare exercises. A search for the other nine officers and men is continuing. Lt. Cmdr. Herbert E. Wilson, Public Information Officer of Fleet Air Wing Three here said a search plane spotted debris from the VP-10 plane at about 10:30 a.m. Wednesday. Found were a life raft and other objects definitely identified as coming from the P2V of Patrol Squadron 10 based here.

NAVY AUTHORITIES said the plane, commanded by Lt. Cmdr Phillip S. Callihan, was last heard from shortly after 2:30 a.m.. There was no indication of trouble at the time and no distress signals were received from the plane. The Navy did not reveal the names of the men whose bodies had been recovered. Fleet Air Wing Three headquarters here said aircraft from Brunswick and from the carrier USS Champlain are taking part in the search. It was expected the search would be discontinued temporarily during the night.

THE PLANE took off from Brunswick at 8 p.m. Tuesday with four officers and 7 enlisted men aboard. It carried sufficient fuel for 14 hours of flight and was due back at its home base here at 7 a.m. Planes from NASB took off in search of the aircraft when it failed to reach port. The Navy said no reason for the accident has been determined. The fact that the life raft was floating on the water may indicate that some of the crew had time to escape.

LISTED AS THE OFFICIAL crew of the downed patrol bomber, and next of kin by the Naval Air Station were:

Lt. Cmdr Phillip S. Callihan, 36, Brunswick, home, Memphis, Tenn; wife, Anita Taylor Callihan; one child.

Lt. (jg) Robert J. Miller, 23, son of Mr and Mrs James Edward Miller, New Hyde Park, N. Y.

Lt. (jg) William G. McLane, 22, Brunswick, wife, Mrs Rosemarie Belton McLane; home, Lake Placid, N.Y.

Lt. (jg) Edmund J. McGrath, 24, son of Mr and Mrs Joseph T. McGrath, Chicago, ILL.

Harold G. Kirkman, aviation structural mechanic first class, 27, wife, Mrs Kathryn Yvonne Kirkman, Brunswick; four children; home, Kernersville, N.C.

Paul Harden, aviation machinist mate third class, 23, Brunswick; wife, Phyllis Eileen Harden, Thomas Point, Brunswick; two children; home, Philadelphia, PA.

Gerald J. Dinan, aviation electronics technician first class, 25, son of Mr and Mrs Gerald Andrew Dinan, Zanesville, Ohio.

Wayne J. Stevens, 30, aviation electronics technician second class; wife, Mrs Marilyn Corrine Stevens, Brunswick; two children; home, Adairsville, Ga.

Paul E. Lare, airman, 26; wife, Mrs Francis Noel Lare, Brunswick; two children.

John J. Walsh, 22, avaition electricians mate third class; parents, Mr and Mrs John Joseph Walsh of Ellsworth.

Roy D. Smith, aviation ordnanceman second class, 23, son of Mr and Mrs Dan R. Smith, Crofton, Ky.



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Title: Re: Memorial Day weekend
Post by: Eccentric on November 09, 2015, 12:09:44 am
Thank you for sharing that with us Kevin.
Title: Re: Memorial Day weekend
Post by: aclarke on November 09, 2015, 12:48:39 am
Thanks Kevin.   Neat old planes. We had one dropping fire retardant on the local wildfire we had here last week!   Later models were outfitted with the addition of a turbo jet motor next to each radial engine, unique plane...
Title: Re: Memorial Day weekend
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 28, 2016, 11:32:57 am
Never forgotten.
Title: Memorial Day
Post by: 1manband on May 28, 2017, 12:22:56 pm
having one for the grandfather who i had never had a chance to meet.

thanks to all who gave all. 
Title: Re: Memorial Day
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 25, 2018, 09:13:53 am
Lets remember

Title: Re: Memorial Day
Post by: breese on May 26, 2018, 07:09:34 am
I am the fallen soldier, sailor, airman, and Marine.

Remember me.
 I am the one that held the line.

In order to serve, I left behind the family, friends, and freedom that so many take for granted.

Over time, I used different weapons: a sword, a musket, a bayonet, a rifle, a machine gun.

Often, I marched into battle on foot – countless miles – across whole continents. I had little water and even less food. But it did not matter. We had a job to do.

Other times, I rode to battle on horseback or in wagons; sometimes on trains; later in tanks or Jeeps or Humvees.

In early wars, my ships were made of wood and powered by the wind.

Later they were made of steel and powered by diesel fuel or the atom.

I even took to the air and mastered the sky in planes, helicopters, and jets.

The machines of war evolved and changed with the times.

But remember that it was always me – the warrior – that had to fight our nation’s enemies.

I fought at Lexington and Concord as our nation was born.

I crossed the Delaware on Christmas day in 1776. Freedom was on our side.

I defended The Chattahoochee river in the War of 1812. I would stand again.

In the Civil War, I fought with my brothers – and against my brothers – at Gettysburg and Shiloh and Bull Run. I learned that we must never again divide.

In World War l, I marched on the Marne and held the line at Belleau Wood. The War to end all wars, they called it. I just called it hell.

In World War ll, I fought everywhere: from the beaches of Normandy and the Battle of the Bulge, to the sands of Iwo Jima and the hell of Guadalcanal. I stood against tyranny and kept darkness from consuming the world.

In Korea I landed at Inchon and broke out of the Chosin Reservoir. They called it the forgotten war – but I never forgot.

In Vietnam, I went and I fought in the Mekong Delta and at Ia Drang and Khe Sanh and Hamburger hill. Some say my country waivered. But I did not waiver. Ever.

In the recent past I have fought in Grenada, Panama, Somalia, and other desperate places around the globe.

And finally I have fought in Iraq and Afghanistan. In Baghdad, Fallujah, and Ramadi.

In Kunar, Helmand, and Kandahar.

As technology advanced, I used night vision goggles and global positioning systems and drones and lasers and thermal optics.

But it was still me, a human being, that did the work.

It was me that patrolled up the mountains or across the desert or though the streets.

It was me that suffered in the merciless heat and the bitter cold.

It was me that went out, night after night, to confront our nation’s enemies and confront evil face to face.

It was me.

Remember me. I was a warrior.
 But also remember:
 That I was not only a warrior.
 I was not just a soldier, sailor, airman, or Marine.

Remember also: that I was a son, a brother, a father.
 I was a daughter, a sister, a mother.

I was a person – like you – a real person with hopes and dreams for the future.

I wanted to have children.
 I wanted to watch my children grow up.

I wanted to see my son score a touchdown or shoot the winning basket.

I wanted to walk my daughter down the aisle.
 I wanted to kiss my wife again.

I wanted to grow old with her – and be there to hold her hand when life grew hard.

When I told her I would be with her until the end – I meant it.

When I told my children I would always be there for them – I meant it.

But I gave all that away.
 All of it.

On that distant battlefield, on some god-forsaken patch of dirt, amongst the fear and the fire and the bullets.

Or in the sky above enemy territory filled with flak.

Or on the unforgiving sea where we fought against the enemy and against the depths of the abyss.

There, in those awful places: I held the line.
 I did not waiver and I did not hesitate.
 I: The Soldier, Sailor, Airman, or Marine.

I stood my ground and sacrificed my life – my future, my hopes, my dreams.

I sacrificed everything – for you.

This Memorial Day, remember me: the fallen warrior.
 And remember me not for my sake – but for yours.

Remember what I sacrificed so you can truly appreciate the incredible treasures you have: Life. Liberty. The pursuit of happiness.

You have the joys of life, the joys that I gave up, so that you can relish in them:

A cool wind in the air.
 The gentle spring grass on your bare feet.
 The warm summer sun on your face.
 Family. Friends. And freedom.
 Never forget where it all came from.
 It came from sacrifice: The supreme sacrifice.
 Don’t waste it. Don’t waste any of your time on this earth.
 Live a life that honors the sacrifice of our fallen heroes.
 Remember them always. And make every day... Memorial Day.

Jocko Willink is a Retired Navy SEAL Officer, author of "Extreme Ownership," "Discipline Equals Freedom Field Manual," and the "Way of the Warrior Kid" series, and hosts the top-rated podcast: Jocko Podcast.
Title: Re: Memorial Day
Post by: Cut4fun on May 23, 2019, 08:48:18 pm
Remember those that gave all.
Title: Re: Memorial Day
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 23, 2020, 08:43:53 am
Dont forget those that sacrificed it all this memorial day weekend. Have a safe weekend.

Memorial Day is a federal holiday in the US for honoring and mourning the military personnel who died while serving in the United States Armed Forces.

Title: Re: Memorial Day
Post by: 3000 FPS on May 23, 2020, 07:20:28 pm
Salute.