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Re: ms441c
« Reply #30 on: November 17, 2013, 11:40:04 pm »
The best way to break in a saw is to run the snot out of it.  I sure hope you got a quality cylinder kit.  Many of the white box ones from eBay are nothing but trouble.
the one i got is from here
Big Bore Nikasil plated cylinder kit For Stihl MS441 chainsaw Replaces OEM part: 1138 020 1201 52mm bore
HLSupply · hlsproparts.com
   is it ok or should i put the oem stock back on

Put the stock one back on.  You will likely gain nothing in performance, and you risk the integrity of your bottom end if the aftermarket top end lunches.  There is a reason the Stihl OEM top end costs $300 and the chicom one is $79.  Any idea what the piston to cylinder clearance is on that hls kit?  It is .002" on the Stihl.  How about the machining tolerance?  .0005" on the Stihl.  Is there even a spec on the cylinder cross hatch in the hls cylinder?  I doubt it, but there is on OEM. 

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Re: ms441c
« Reply #31 on: November 27, 2013, 01:09:59 am »
took the big bore back off, after i cut a load of firewood it started to knock when the saw was at an idle,so i thought it was the rist pin i put the oem in the bb didn't change nothing so i put all the stock back on runs good with no noises.could the piston not be machined right and slapping the cylinder wall  because there is a lot of play between the piston and cylinder

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Re: ms441c
« Reply #32 on: November 27, 2013, 06:59:46 pm »
took the big bore back off, after i cut a load of firewood it started to knock when the saw was at an idle,so i thought it was the rist pin i put the oem in the bb didn't change nothing so i put all the stock back on runs good with no noises.could the piston not be machined right and slapping the cylinder wall  because there is a lot of play between the piston and cylinder

Yes, that is probably piston slap.  That would be the piston to wall clearance I mentioned earlier.  Left un checked, the piston skirt will break off and fill your bottom end with bits of metal.  If the stock top end is not strong enough, a trip to a reputable porting shop should fix things.

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Re: ms441c
« Reply #33 on: November 27, 2013, 07:12:34 pm »
I know Randy username Mastermind here, does up some nice woods ported 441c saws.  Usually around $250 for woods porting.

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Re: ms441c
« Reply #34 on: November 27, 2013, 09:30:12 pm »
Steer clear of the AM 441 cylinders.   Stihl themselves have enough issues with ring hanging due to pin placement.   


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Re: ms441c
« Reply #35 on: November 28, 2013, 08:10:08 am »
Mweba there does some nice work on the 441s also.

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Re: ms441c
« Reply #36 on: November 28, 2013, 11:44:16 am »
I didn't mention any names on purpose.  There are several folks on these forums who can make a stout runner out of that saw.  Not all of them are doing it full time, like Mitch.

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Re: ms441c
« Reply #37 on: November 30, 2013, 06:23:55 pm »
ok thanks guys i have the stock back on ill just port the stock and see what that gives me

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Re: ms441c
« Reply #38 on: November 30, 2013, 06:26:59 pm »
anyone know where i can get an ms660 crank case flywheel side

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Re: ms441c
« Reply #39 on: December 01, 2013, 05:49:49 pm »
I'm pretty sure you have to buy the 1122 cases in pairs.  The newer stuff is machined a little tighter, and cases can be had individually.

 

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