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Re: MS461 Build Thread
« Reply #30 on: July 03, 2014, 01:05:10 pm »
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How often do you go outside your recipe papers?  Or do you generally stick to building them exactly the same

That's a good question Andrew. I'm glad you brought that up.

When a model is something new, like this one was last year, I'll stay close to the original timing numbers. I'll add compression, set the squish in the .025" range, try some ignition timing advance, etc. Then when I put a few tanks thru the saw, I'll try to decide if it needs more exhaust, transfer, intake, and so forth. After that first saw, then I'll vary just the transfer, or intake timing a couple of degrees to see if it makes a difference. I'll vary a few degrees over ten - twelve saws, trying a little different numbers. When I see that I've gotten that model running the best I can make it, I'll stick with those numbers.

My worst fear is making a turd. It would really look bad if a couple of guys with the same saw, built by the same builder showed up at a GTG, swapped on new chains and one saw just waxed the other one's ass. That's why I'll only made small changes over many saws.....

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Re: MS461 Build Thread
« Reply #31 on: July 03, 2014, 01:06:51 pm »
Now for some pics of the muffler work.

Jon starts by removing the whole baffle from the shell. In this pic you can see that he's center punched the spot welds and highlighted them with a black marker.



Then he drills the spot welds thru the baffle, but not all the way thru the shell.







The top attachment point is yet more spot welds, they are cut thru with a round carbide burr.



And she's outta there!!!!

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Re: MS461 Build Thread
« Reply #32 on: July 03, 2014, 01:07:47 pm »
Now to match the muffler shell to the cylinder. Again we use the heat shield as a template.





We use a mesh screen that is more open in mufflers that will still accept a screen after the mods.



I didn't have a good picture of the side outlet......I will get a better one when the muffler is complete.
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Re: MS461 Build Thread
« Reply #33 on: July 03, 2014, 01:08:25 pm »
Now for the cover.

This is an OEM  MS460 cover that I've been hoarding...this is a good place to use it I think.



They have a pretty small outlet from the factory......Jon fixes that.



Ready for paint....



Wiggs turned us on to this trick. Heating the muffler before painting it makes the paint dry as it hit the part......and it seems more durable.



More later after it's all buttoned back up.
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Re: MS461 Build Thread
« Reply #34 on: July 03, 2014, 01:09:26 pm »
The timing numbers. ATDC

Intake...



Exhaust...



Transfers...

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Re: MS461 Build Thread
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Now we put her back together....













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