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Re: old hand tools photography
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2015, 06:47:45 pm »
some old old hex style socket sets.  turn of the century + 20 years don't know yet for sure.

first one is unknown brand, second is new britain brand.
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Re: old hand tools photography
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2015, 06:51:31 pm »
will operate on some craftsman usa vs new craftsman chinese.........as soon as i can remember where i put the internal snap ring pliers?
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Re: old hand tools photography
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2015, 07:08:54 pm »
best source i have found so far for figuring out what you have and how old:  http://home.comcast.net/~alloy-artifacts/index.html
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Re: old hand tools photography
« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2015, 11:02:01 pm »
I'm not to stoked on the craftsman 3/8 rachets. Have a couple dead ones in my box. Billings pawl set up looks stout!!

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Re: old hand tools photography
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2015, 10:04:53 am »
I'm not to stoked on the craftsman 3/8 rachets. Have a couple dead ones in my box. Billings pawl set up looks stout!!

....hit and miss for me with the craftsman.  find that they lock up sometimes.  beating them on concrete sometimes frees them.  lol.
do have a couple that stuck around since the high-school days. 

when they broke...they would either exchange them, or give you a rebuild kit (had to ask for that).  the craftsman part numbers changed so much over the years.....after a bit, the rebuild kits were NLA.  the only sears around here closed its doors this past spring.  it was cool to save up the broken sockets and hand them a hand full.  the 7/16" sockets seemed to break the most for me.  seen some folks selling the rebuild kits on the interweb sometimes.

so far, the billings looks the best.  don't have any recent mac, matco or snappys to look at for comparison.

my most used ratchet is this one.  williams 'super ratchet'.  need a spanner to take it apart though for a look see.
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Re: old hand tools photography
« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2015, 11:27:15 am »
Those are pretty cool pictures.   I really liked the ones of the insides of the ratchets showing all the different styles and designs.    I still have a few older Snapon ratchets that I got when I was around 19 years old and a Proto also.
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Re: old hand tools photography
« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2015, 06:17:20 pm »
Those are pretty cool pictures.   I really liked the ones of the insides of the ratchets showing all the different styles and designs.    I still have a few older Snapon ratchets that I got when I was around 19 years old and a Proto also.
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post them up.  the snap on ratchet i posted is from 1934.  would be cool to see the design changes over time.
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Re: old hand tools photography
« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2015, 06:28:11 pm »
before i get to ripping up america's most favorite brand.......

here is a husky.  bought it about 2000 or so?  does not have made in usa stamped into it, so guessing that it's not?

the mechanism resembles a lock cylinder.  lever rocker type pawl.  fairly thick.  works well, but don't think this can be repaired if needed?

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screwdriver used to get 'spiro lock' type ring off.  don't use it for pistons these days.
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Re: old hand tools photography
« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2015, 06:49:21 pm »
this brand... not much to compliment on.  this is just my opinion.  i am tough on tools, would think that folks that care about their tools more than i, would have better luck.

the different sized ratchets vary in design and quality.  1/4" size being imo disposable.  3/8" being best.  1/2" disposable as well.

1/4" have a plastic on/off switch.  this is silly, because the on off switch holds and aligns the pawl to the gear.  see photo.  if this breaks......the pawl cannot make contact with the gear effectively.  see photo.

another usa branded ones, the pawl casting was off.  it could only make contact in clockwise position.  (the plastic on/off switch was not causing this. see photos.  all 3.......made in differing decades had this plastic switch.

the above two ratchets usa made.  the chinese, was the best of the 3...but worst chrome, and thinnest casting.

oldest ratchet.....1990's was the thickest casting.  middle rachet 2000's..........bottom rachet chinese 2010 or abouts?
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Re: old hand tools photography
« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2015, 07:09:35 pm »
next up, the 3/8"

same design as the 1/4"........but with a brass(?)  .......on/off switch.  much better than the 1/4".

fine tooth gear.  cannot tell if it's heat treated, must be.  but its black maybe parkerized? 

in all pics..............usa made on left 80's?........newer chinese is on right.

chinese gear, with different ball release shown.  quality and design lacking.

usa is far better quality in this comparison and heavier made.

the one area where the chinese made one seems better.......is the one extra engagement tooth their pawl casting has......3 teeth to 2.  see photo.
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