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MS461 Build Thread
« on: July 03, 2014, 12:37:58 pm »
This is one of my most detailed threads. I'll post it here so anyone that wants too can look it over.

From Nov. 10th 2013.....

Here we go guys. Today I will be porting the MS461 that we will giveaway in the next T-Bone donation event.



I'll be adding to this thread over the course of the day as I take it apart and modify it.
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Re: MS461 Build Thread
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2014, 12:39:27 pm »




The HD2 air filter is great......I do wish they would have used the air injection that they used on the 441 on this saw though.



Looks like a 460 here huh?

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Re: MS461 Build Thread
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2014, 12:40:08 pm »
Let's tear into this thing.





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Re: MS461 Build Thread
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Re: MS461 Build Thread
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Re: MS461 Build Thread
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2014, 12:42:16 pm »
Now, we start getting to mods. First thing I do is defeat the carb limiters.



The tool I'm using here is just an old #1 Phillips screwdriver with a drywall screw brazed to the end of it.





Trimming the tab off....



Reinstalling the limiter caps. It's easier to "find" the adjustment screws with the saw running with these in place.

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Re: MS461 Build Thread
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2014, 12:42:56 pm »
Now moving on to the the coil and timing mods.





Here I'm popping the wire off using the blade of a screwdriver rather than pulling it off. Many times, the spade connector can be damaged by pulling it off.





I use a double ended, threaded flywheel puller on most Stihl saws. It's just a cheap Moped tool from ebay.



Pop......and she's off.

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Re: MS461 Build Thread
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2014, 12:43:34 pm »


I'm removing .020 from the edge of the key.









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Re: MS461 Build Thread
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2014, 12:44:32 pm »
Coils.....

The MS461 is rev limited to 13,500. To make the saw unlimited I use either a 460, or 660 coil. On this saw, I have a 660 coil to use.





As you can see in this pic, all three holes don't line up using the 660 coil. On the 460 coil there are only two bolts as well, so I don't worry about this.

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Re: MS461 Build Thread
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2014, 12:45:08 pm »
Let me back up just for a second. Here's a shot of the flywheel key.



See how the area I cut is on the right side? That will make the flywheel rotate counter-clockwise further than it was from the factory. I've found that by taking .020 from the key that I get around 6° advance.

Now here I'm holding the flywheel against the rope I'm using as a stop, then I tighten the flywheel nut as tight as I can while holding it like this.



After it's snugged up to hold the flywheel in place, I rotate the engine to catch the stop in a way that allows me to finish tightening the flywheel.
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